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(McClatchy DC)   Obama: 'I didn't set a red line, you did.'   (mcclatchydc.com) divider line 413
    More: Asinine, Obama, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Prime Minister of Sweden, Mike Reinfeldt, Heads of state of Syria, soviet leader, G-20  
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2013-09-04 12:43:41 PM
Back, and to the left...back, and to the left.
 
2013-09-04 12:46:54 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-04 12:51:33 PM
Well, I guess he can't blame Bush
 
2013-09-04 01:04:52 PM
Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.
 
2013-09-04 01:05:40 PM
I'm sure none of this has anything to do with the fact that 70% of the people with brains in this country want nothing to do with Syria.  It's just a coinky dinky. Obama is one fine preznit. Helluva leader.

My god, this circus has more clowns in it than Barnum and Bailey's.
 
2013-09-04 01:39:05 PM

Mrbogey: Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.


Shaddup you friggin racist
 
2013-09-04 02:03:41 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: My god, this circus has more clowns in it than Barnum and Bailey's.


Which one are you?
 
2013-09-04 02:04:09 PM
Obama has become delusional in his blood-lust.
 
2013-09-04 02:04:14 PM
Well, it's true that the world has basically said, *in the past*, that using chemical weapons was an incredible crime.

It's just that they apparently have no desire to *actually back this up*.
 
2013-09-04 02:05:08 PM

cman: Mrbogey: Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.

Shaddup you friggin racist


Oh good, cman is high again.
 
2013-09-04 02:06:24 PM
"President Obama hasn't been elected by the American people in order to be pleasant to Russia," Putin told the AP. "And your humble servant hasn't been elected by the people of Russia to be pleasant to someone either."

"We work, we argue about some issues. We are human. Sometimes one of us gets vexed. But I would like to repeat once again that global mutual interests form a good basis for finding a joint solution to our problems," Putin said.



Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-r e d-line.html#.Uid2PtJJMuc#storylink=cpy
 Hmm. So much for WWIII.
 
2013-09-04 02:06:32 PM

Mrbogey: Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.


What do you expect from somebody that doesn't know what he's doing but will do it with aplomb and excessive enthusiasm?
 
2013-09-04 02:06:43 PM

Mrbogey: Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.


Says the guy who doesn't ever own up to the 3rd-world-village-nourishing amounts of derp he lays down.
 
2013-09-04 02:08:25 PM
I love how the Republicans on this are "We  lied about Iraq, so we don't trust Obama!" How the fark does that make sense?
 
2013-09-04 02:08:31 PM
This thread may as well be about Obama eating crackers for the response it's getting.
 
2013-09-04 02:08:59 PM
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Red line my ass.
 
2013-09-04 02:09:06 PM

James!: "President Obama hasn't been elected by the American people in order to be pleasant to Russia," Putin told the AP. "And your humble servant hasn't been elected by the people of Russia to be pleasant to someone either."

"We work, we argue about some issues. We are human. Sometimes one of us gets vexed. But I would like to repeat once again that global mutual interests form a good basis for finding a joint solution to our problems," Putin said.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-r e d-line.html#.Uid2PtJJMuc#storylink=cpy
 Hmm. So much for WWIII.


Well, good.  Cooler heads, hopefully.
 
2013-09-04 02:09:27 PM

Felgraf: Well, it's true that the world has basically said, *in the past*, that using chemical weapons was an incredible crime.

It's just that they apparently have no desire to *actually back this up*.


Syria is effectively running a Somebody Else's Problem field.
 
2013-09-04 02:09:57 PM
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2013-09-04 02:10:57 PM
I think what Obama is referring to is that the world shouldn't and hasn't really condoned gassing people in warfare since WWI..... but I know this will be twisted to something else and I'll kick back and watch this shiat show.
 
2013-09-04 02:11:08 PM

coeyagi: Mrbogey: Obama isn't responsible for anything he does.

Says the guy who doesn't ever own up to the 3rd-world-village-nourishing amounts of derp he lays down.


He's your typical hit-and-run RW poster.  Nothing new here.
 
2013-09-04 02:12:04 PM

Fubini: [s3.amazonaws.com image 696x769]

Red line my ass.


So your position is that we should've bombed Syria sooner?
 
2013-09-04 02:12:13 PM

Elandriel: Well, good.  Cooler heads, hopefully.


I know Putin's a KGB bastard that has risen to the top using a ladder constructed of knives in people's backs, but I'll be damned if the guy can't say some reasonable-ass shiat sometimes.
 
2013-09-04 02:12:32 PM
Are chemical weapons taboo or not? Who set that international standard? Obama?
 
2013-09-04 02:13:08 PM
"The moral thing to do is not to stand by and do nothing," Obama said. "I do have to ask people if in fact you're outraged by the slaughter of innocent people, what are you doing about it?"

there seems to be a percentage of Americans who are in fact o.k. with this, willing to look the other way, not get involved, you know, real humanitarians who care about the world and its inhabitants.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-r e d-line.html#storylink=cpy
 
2013-09-04 02:13:34 PM

vernonFL: Are chemical weapons taboo or not? Who set that international standard? Obama?


Time. Machine.
 
2013-09-04 02:14:16 PM
I'm ok with Syria gassing people, I paid $3.49 a gallon today.  Maybe it will help out some of the poor injured people i've been seeing on TV if they have cheap gas.
 
2013-09-04 02:14:18 PM
So... what, the GOP idiots 'want' us to go war?

Well, given that they got us in to two other wars, I can actually see how they might view any obstacle to the stupid-ass-war trifecta as a bad thing.
 
2013-09-04 02:14:22 PM

vernonFL: Are chemical weapons taboo or not? Who set that international standard? Obama?


Some Swiss Miss. 

www.google.com
 
2013-09-04 02:14:45 PM
Obama's Red Line is with the Benghazi YouTube video - down the memory hole.
 
2013-09-04 02:14:50 PM
I think we need to attack Syria because Obama needs to maintain his credibility and people that live in nicer houses than mine need to get a bump in their defense industry stock dividends.
 
2013-09-04 02:16:19 PM

FarkedOver: I think what Obama is referring to is that the world shouldn't and hasn't really condoned gassing people in warfare since WWI..... but I know this will be twisted to something else and I'll kick back and watch this shiat show.


A lot of people seem to read this as Obama backing off his previous statements... it looks to me more like he's admonishing everyone else for backing off from their own.
 
2013-09-04 02:16:32 PM

SlothB77: Obama's Red Line is with the Benghazi YouTube video - down the memory hole.


If by "down the memory hole" you mean "being widely discussed and used as a legitimate criticism of the President" that is probably about right.
 
2013-09-04 02:16:50 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Lt. Cheese Weasel: My god, this circus has more clowns in it than Barnum and Bailey's.

Which one are you?


 gacy
 
2013-09-04 02:16:58 PM

SlothB77: Obama's Red Line is with the Benghazi YouTube video - down the memory hole.


Says the guy who probably couldn't actually define what the president actually said in that quote.
 
2013-09-04 02:17:42 PM

vernonFL: Are chemical weapons taboo or not? Who set that international standard? Obama?


Obama of course. He used his magical time machine to go back and create the prohibitions against use of chemical weapons that were established long before he was born.
 
2013-09-04 02:17:57 PM
Obama used his time machine to go back and set up the Geneva Protocol? That guy gets around.
 
2013-09-04 02:18:02 PM
The U.S. should not act against Syria without an international consensus.  That being said he will not get international approval.  What is the U.S. to do? Humanitarian aid.  Drop food, drop supplies and offer asylum to ANY Syrian citizen that wants to leave a warzone.  We DO NOT want to back either side in this fight and we SHOULD NOT back any side in this fight.
 
2013-09-04 02:18:21 PM

SlothB77: Obama's Red Line is with the Benghazi YouTube video - down the memory hole.


DRINK!
 
2013-09-04 02:18:25 PM
I DIDN'T JOIN THE CORE TO GO FIGHT FOR AL CAYDUH IN SEERYA!!1!
 
2013-09-04 02:18:30 PM

Isitoveryet: there seems to be a percentage of Americans who are in fact o.k. with this, willing to look the other way, not get involved, you know, real humanitarians who care about the world and its inhabitants.


The problem is that the situation is farked- up, down, left, right and sideways. There's very little that we can do which isn't going to make matters worse. There are international politics at play which prevent any sort of consensus on the matter from being brought to bear. How much military force can or should the US bring to bear? What's going to happen when we do? If we engage in a military campaign, what would constitute "success"? What paths do we have to achieve that success? What opposition will we face, both from within Syria and from without? What costs will we have to pay to achieve success? What are the risks of failure? What are the  consequences of failure?
 
2013-09-04 02:18:58 PM

Fubini: [s3.amazonaws.com image 696x769]

Red line my ass.


I've seen this kind of sentiment before and it makes little sense to me. The only conclusions one can draw are either 1) you think the international community should have intervened much sooner because any civilian casualties in a civil war in unacceptable, in which case you should still support US action now, while condemning them for being late to the rescue, or 2) you think that there is no point at which it becomes of concern to the international community, and you should be against the US ever involving itself in regional conflicts, and shouldn't feel guilty for sitting aside things like Rwanda and Sudan. Otherwise, the international community can decide when it thinks that regional conflicts become too severe to let it resolve itself, and require international intervention, which is what is happening right now. You can disagree with where the line is drawn, but saying, like the comic does, "you've waited this long, so you can't want to intervene now" doesn't really make sense.
 
2013-09-04 02:20:35 PM
Hanging around the Politics Tab these last couple weeks, I'm not feeling any of the old joy and happiness I used to feel in here... Maybe I'll go hang out some other place for a while until we're in 'n out of Syria. Maybe even Pottermore, I don't care.
 
2013-09-04 02:20:43 PM
It is funny watching Congress squirm, having to actually be responsible. "What?!?! You expect US to fulfill our Constitutional duties?!?!? We want Obama to do it so we can just complain!"

And I see a shiatload of farkers want to pretend the world DIDN'T say "no more" to chemical weapons.
 
2013-09-04 02:21:11 PM
Putin says Russia could support strike on Syria

As far as the UN security council taking part that right there is a big deal.
 
2013-09-04 02:21:19 PM
I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line

I don't think we should intervene in Syria, but this statement is still true.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-r e d-line.html#storylink=cpy
 
2013-09-04 02:22:27 PM

mediablitz: It is funny watching Congress squirm, having to actually be responsible. "What?!?! You expect US to fulfill our Constitutional duties?!?!? We want Obama to do it so we can just complain!"

And I see a shiatload of farkers want to pretend the world DIDN'T say "no more" to chemical weapons.


They must be assuming Assad is lighting his farts on fire.  "Chemical weapons.... pssst.  You should have seen us Friday nights at Alphi Chi Derp-mega!"
 
2013-09-04 02:22:41 PM

thurstonxhowell: I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line

I don't think we should intervene in Syria, but this statement is still true.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-r e d-line.html#storylink=cpy


Websites are getting pretty sneaky about hiding the fact that I'm about to post a link.
 
2013-09-04 02:22:41 PM

Isitoveryet: there seems to be a percentage of Americans who are in fact o.k. with this, willing to look the other way, not get involved, you know, real humanitarians who care about the world and its inhabitants.


And on the other side there's real humanitarians who want to drop bombs and shoot missiles at people in Syria.
 
2013-09-04 02:23:44 PM

FarkedOver: We DO NOT want to back either side in this fight and we SHOULD NOT back any side in this fight.


I agree with you on this bit right here.
 
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