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(Opposing Views)   Gun range to be built between a shelter for victims of domestic abuse and a gun store. Yup, that was the missing step   (opposingviews.com) divider line 183
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2013-09-04 02:20:19 PM
Let's see the bastard beat you with a couple of rounds from a snub nosed 38 in him.
 
2013-09-04 02:46:53 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-04 02:48:15 PM
Should I grab some popcorn? I do believe this may be popcorn worthy.
 
2013-09-04 02:49:08 PM
gotta love trolling via tag
 
2013-09-04 02:49:14 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Let's see the bastard beat you with a couple of rounds from a snub nosed 38 in him.


Just need a police station house or court right next door to issue CCW permits.
 
2013-09-04 02:49:30 PM
Good.  Teach them not to be victims.  The next time Billy-Bob shows up demanding his sammich or they'll be a beatin', introduce him to your little friend.
 
2013-09-04 02:49:30 PM
Will all the targets include pictures of men's ballsacks?
 
2013-09-04 02:50:29 PM
So? Get the abuse victims trained up and shooting straight. No more domestic abuse victims. No more domestic abusers, for that matter.

Problem solved!
 
2013-09-04 02:51:26 PM
I would say perfect location.

\I bet that gun store has a huge selection in small framed revolvers.
 
2013-09-04 02:51:43 PM
Quick!  Someone set up a halfway house for PTSD veterans returning fom war nearby, STAT.
 
2013-09-04 02:52:23 PM
Give the victims living at the shelter free shooting lessons and gun safety education. Put them through the full training that would help prevent them from being victims in the future.  Next time Bubba wants to beat his woman... That's a shootin'.
 
2013-09-04 02:53:14 PM

syberpud: Just need a police station house or court right next door to issue CCW permits.


If they really wanted to speed up the process they could allow gun stores to issue them. Take the course and get the paperwork done all in one location!

If we're going to have a gun porn thread, lets do it right
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2013-09-04 02:53:32 PM
This strikes me as counterproductive. The very worst thing you can do to a shelter for abuse victims is to reveal its location to the public. Surely this is far more damaging than the construction of a gun range nearby.
 
2013-09-04 02:53:34 PM
They should integrate all of these services together.  It's annoying enough having to make a stop at the gun store and then drive to a range.  Maybe work together to provide free training.
 
2013-09-04 02:53:57 PM
I really don't see what a guns have to do with domestic violence....?

The shelter is for women who have been the victim of domestic violence.  From what I understand, it's pretty rare to be abused, with a gun.  And the biological truth of the matter is that most women are smaller/physically weaker than most men.  Give my wife and I both guns and it's a toss up, she could kill me....I could kill her.  I don't know how it would end.  Honestly, she's a much better shot than I am, so odds are probably in her favor a bit.  Take the guns away, and I could beat her senseless.  Sure, she could hit me with a baseball bat to the skull while I'm sleeping; but short of that, I'd be able to over power her without much effort.

The weaker someone is physically, the more equality they gain in carrying a gun.
 
2013-09-04 02:54:31 PM
Needs a liquor store.
 
2013-09-04 02:55:01 PM
More than five times as many women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance (605) than by a stranger (113) in the year 2000. Additionally, while firearm homicides involving male victims were mostly intra-gender, 95 percent of female firearm homicide victims were murdered by a male.

The circumstances of firearms violence differ significantly between men and women. Compared to a man, a woman is far more likely to be killed by her spouse, an intimate acquaintance, or a family member than murdered by a stranger or an unidentified intruder. A 1976 to 1987 analysis of Federal Bureau of Investigation data revealed that more than twice as many women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances than were murdered by strangers using firearms, knives, or any other means.

Between 1976 and 1996, 65 percent of the male and female victims of intimate partner homicides were killed with a firearm. And while rates of intimate partner homicide have been declining, the ratio of female-to-male victims has risen. In other words, when an intimate-partner homicide occurs, it is increasingly likely that a woman is the victim rather than a man.


/but don't let statistics get in the way of your "moar guns" derp!
 
2013-09-04 02:55:16 PM
So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?
 
2013-09-04 02:55:24 PM

Millennium: This strikes me as counterproductive. The very worst thing you can do to a shelter for abuse victims is to reveal its location to the public. Surely this is far more damaging than the construction of a gun range nearby.


....how would you expect victims to find it if they don't even know it exists?
 
2013-09-04 02:56:17 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Let's see the bastard beat you with a couple of rounds from a snub nosed 38 in him.


A gun is going to do them no dam good. The are so weak it will just get taken away and used on them. If they were strong the bastard would never have beat on them in the first place.
 
2013-09-04 02:56:29 PM
Every Friday night they have domestic abuse gun sale.
 
2013-09-04 02:56:30 PM

whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?


An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?
 
2013-09-04 02:56:56 PM
I am not a huge fan of gun fixing every problem, but this is a problem guns can help fix.
 
2013-09-04 02:57:27 PM
Gun range to be built between a shelter for victims of domestic abuse and a gun store. Yup, that was the missing step

For both?

1.Abused victim goes to shelter.
2.Abused victim signs up for gun practice.
3.Abused victim buys gun.

or

1.Abuser buys (another) gun after victim leaves him.
2.Abuser signs up for gun practice.
3.Abuser walks into victim's shelter.
 
2013-09-04 02:57:41 PM

Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?


whosits_112?
 
2013-09-04 02:57:42 PM

OgreMagi: The next time Billy-Bob shows up demanding his sammich or they'll be a beatin', introduce him to your little friend.


She wants to change Billy-Bob, not kill him.

/ you dont see Billy-Bobs sweet side like she does...
 
2013-09-04 02:57:45 PM
Oh man, what does a good liberal do at the crossroads of gun control and feminism?

Sorry ladies, you lose this time.  Victims vote.
 
2013-09-04 02:57:57 PM

Theaetetus: More than five times as many women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance (605) than by a stranger (113) in the year 2000. Additionally, while firearm homicides involving male victims were mostly intra-gender, 95 percent of female firearm homicide victims were murdered by a male.

The circumstances of firearms violence differ significantly between men and women. Compared to a man, a woman is far more likely to be killed by her spouse, an intimate acquaintance, or a family member than murdered by a stranger or an unidentified intruder. A 1976 to 1987 analysis of Federal Bureau of Investigation data revealed that more than twice as many women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances than were murdered by strangers using firearms, knives, or any other means.

Between 1976 and 1996, 65 percent of the male and female victims of intimate partner homicides were killed with a firearm. And while rates of intimate partner homicide have been declining, the ratio of female-to-male victims has risen. In other words, when an intimate-partner homicide occurs, it is increasingly likely that a woman is the victim rather than a man.

/but don't let statistics get in the way of your "moar guns" derp!


Because that has anything at all to do with the topic at hand.
 
2013-09-04 02:58:03 PM

whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?


Dumb Ass. He should get a divorce.
 
2013-09-04 02:58:13 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: syberpud: Just need a police station house or court right next door to issue CCW permits.

If they really wanted to speed up the process they could allow gun stores to issue them. Take the course and get the paperwork done all in one location!

If we're going to have a gun porn thread, lets do it right


Yeeeeeees!
 
2013-09-04 02:58:36 PM

Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?


Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?
 
2013-09-04 02:58:59 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: syberpud: Just need a police station house or court right next door to issue CCW permits.

If they really wanted to speed up the process they could allow gun stores to issue them. Take the course and get the paperwork done all in one location!

If we're going to have a gun porn thread, lets do it right


Gun porn? Pic very related (NSFW)
 
2013-09-04 02:59:13 PM

Millennium


This strikes me as counterproductive. The very worst thing you can do to a shelter for abuse victims is to reveal its location to the public.


How exactly do you propose to keep a secret while making sure it is available to people who need it?
 
2013-09-04 02:59:49 PM

Slaves2Darkness: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

Dumb Ass. He should get a divorce.


And that's what happened, after telling her she needed to get some real psychological help.

/try to help someone, and they label you the bad guy, when even her family calls her nuts...
 
2013-09-04 02:59:53 PM
to keep IT a secret
 
2013-09-04 03:00:02 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: The shelter is for women who have been the victim of domestic violence.  From what I understand, it's pretty rare to be abused, with a gun


Except, ya know, the founder of the shelter had their daughter and grandchildren murdered by their son-in-law. But I guess "murder" isn't quite "abused" by some definitions. Abused would imply that you lived through it.
 
2013-09-04 03:00:05 PM
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2013-09-04 03:01:07 PM

whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?


Christmas presents have always been a gateway to violence.  Some things, you just can't change.
 
2013-09-04 03:01:19 PM

Por que tan serioso: Yeeeeeees!



For some reason Kathy could always find an open stall at the range...
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we dont know why
 
2013-09-04 03:02:11 PM

whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?


If only there was some sort of device that could transmit your voice to local authorities.
 
2013-09-04 03:02:18 PM

whosits_112: /try to help someone, and they label you the bad guy, when even her family calls her nuts...


That's why you don't try to help someone like that unless you have a white coat and a medical degree.
 
2013-09-04 03:02:56 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?

Christmas presents have always been a gateway to violence.  Some things, you just can't change.


Just wondering when she is gonna wig out on the turd she's with now. She's come close to it already...
/It's what he gets for boning a married woman and leaving a wife who makes 6+ figures...
 
2013-09-04 03:03:42 PM
The three most important things in real estate:

Location, location, location.
 
2013-09-04 03:04:09 PM
Theaetetus,
More than five times as many women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance (605) than by a stranger (113) in the year 2000. Additionally, while firearm homicides involving male victims were mostly intra-gender, 95 percent of female firearm homicide victims were murdered by a male.
The circumstances of firearms violence differ significantly between men and women. Compared to a man, a woman is far more likely to be killed by her spouse, an intimate acquaintance, or a family member than murdered by a stranger or an unidentified intruder. A 1976 to 1987 analysis of Federal Bureau of Investigation data revealed that more than twice as many women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances than were murdered by strangers using firearms, knives, or any other means.
Between 1976 and 1996, 65 percent of the male and female victims of intimate partner homicides were killed with a firearm. And while rates of intimate partner homicide have been declining, the ratio of female-to-male victims has risen. In other words, when an intimate-partner homicide occurs, it is increasingly likely that a woman is the victim rather than a man.
/but don't let statistics get in the way of your "moar guns" derp!


Very good point, however those stats don't say exactly how those shooting incidents happened. If it is the point where a woman has to go to a battered woman's shelter, she has already identified him as the enemy. A woman holding a gun with a properly trained and confident attitude has a decent chance against the man that won't accept no for an answer.
 
2013-09-04 03:04:55 PM

whosits_112: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?

Christmas presents have always been a gateway to violence.  Some things, you just can't change.

Just wondering when she is gonna wig out on the turd she's with now. She's come close to it already...
/It's what he gets for boning a married woman and leaving a wife who makes 6+ figures...


Hey, look at it this way... if a bunch of the people in the thread had their way, she'd have shot you.
 
2013-09-04 03:05:33 PM
When is ladies night?
 
2013-09-04 03:06:18 PM

Theaetetus: whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?

If only there was some sort of device that could transmit your voice to local authorities.


"Hello, police? Yeah, my spouse just sliced her stomach open with a kitchen knife. She's bleeding all over the place."
At least she's alive now. I may be an idiot, but what good is calling the cops when she's already done the deed?
 
2013-09-04 03:08:02 PM

Theaetetus: whosits_112: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: whosits_112: Theaetetus: whosits_112: So what do you call a guy who gets called an abuser when his SO flips out, goes nuts, and he has to grab n' shake her before she winds up destroying property or hurting herself?

An idiot who grabbed and shook someone?

Is that better than letting her knife herself in the guts because she messed up a Christmas present?

Christmas presents have always been a gateway to violence.  Some things, you just can't change.

Just wondering when she is gonna wig out on the turd she's with now. She's come close to it already...
/It's what he gets for boning a married woman and leaving a wife who makes 6+ figures...

Hey, look at it this way... if a bunch of the people in the thread had their way, she'd have shot you.


I sometimes think that would have been a blessing, though...
 
2013-09-04 03:08:52 PM
Needs a mental health clinic between the shelter and the store.  People of any stripe don't turn into individuals capable of taking a life just by throwing a switch.  The ladies have to believe their lives are worth saving.
 
2013-09-04 03:09:41 PM

Enemabag Jones: Very good point, however those stats don't say exactly how those shooting incidents happened. If it is the point where a woman has to go to a battered woman's shelter, she has already identified him as the enemy.


... and if battered people never got back with their abusers, or if their abusers weren't parents to their children, you'd have a point.
In reality, people tend to hesitate when it comes to shooting the father of their child.

A woman holding a gun with a properly trained and confident attitude has a decent chance against the man that won't accept no for an answer.

And if she hesitates, then she just wasn't properly trained or confident enough, so it's her own fault?
 
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