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2013-09-04 12:19:44 PM  
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2013-09-04 12:23:03 PM  
Good for him.
 
2013-09-04 12:26:48 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-09-04 01:09:14 PM  
probably got a bunch of likes on his facebook: Like if you want my cancer cured by god.
 
2013-09-04 01:11:52 PM  
Well, one thing is for sure.
He's definitely Bi.
 
2013-09-04 01:12:49 PM  
Dog is my co-pilot.


memeblender.com
 
2013-09-04 01:13:23 PM  
www.atheistmemebase.com
 
2013-09-04 01:14:34 PM  
so... science, human knowledge, passion, drive, education, etc for actually getting the job done... and 'god' for providing him a coping mechanism.   that sounds about right.  pretty sure the pope didn't have a damn thing to do with his recovery.  hope they aren't going to try to claim this as one of the bogus 'miracles' like they've done in the past.
 
2013-09-04 01:14:36 PM  

yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]


God, Randall Munroe sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic. "Grope for comfort before the slings and arrows"?

"INCOMIIIIING!"
"shiat, my blanket fell off!" *grope grope fumble fumble* "ahhhh"
 
2013-09-04 01:16:21 PM  

vudukungfu: Well, one thing is for sure.
He's definitely Bi.


?
 
2013-09-04 01:17:41 PM  

yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]


Once again, XKCD makes a valid point in the most pedantic and douchey way possible.
 
2013-09-04 01:20:10 PM  

Cid_Highwind: yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]

God, Randall Munroe sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic. "Grope for comfort before the slings and arrows"?

"INCOMIIIIING!"
"shiat, my blanket fell off!" *grope grope fumble fumble* "ahhhh"


And you sound like a whiny biatch.

It was just a phrase adapted from a metaphor in Hamlet's soliloquy. Get over it.
 
2013-09-04 01:20:19 PM  
Pediatric Oncology - 2 words that should never have to be used in the same sentence.

Good for him.  Just too bad he didn't meet the "good" pope.  Meeting Razing-Fuhrer a year before Francis is like going to Disneyland the week before the really good new ride opens up.
 
2013-09-04 01:21:22 PM  
He sounds pretty sensible and open-minded.

What's his FARK handl...

...oh. Never mind.
 
2013-09-04 01:21:40 PM  
www.evolvefish.com
 
2013-09-04 01:22:46 PM  

Charlie Chingas: probably got a bunch of likes on his facebook: Like if you want my cancer cured by god.


Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes.

Q.  What did the deaf, dumb and blind kid get for Christmas?
A.  Leukemia.
 
2013-09-04 01:23:20 PM  

JesseL: It was just a phrase adapted from a metaphor in Hamlet's soliloquy. Get over it.


So, really, it's Shakespeare that sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic.
 
2013-09-04 01:28:36 PM  
What God may look like.

blogs.airspacemag.com
 
2013-09-04 01:28:59 PM  

Sofa King Smart: so... science, human knowledge, passion, drive, education, etc for actually getting the job done... and 'god' for providing him a coping mechanism.   that sounds about right.  pretty sure the pope didn't have a damn thing to do with his recovery.  hope they aren't going to try to claim this as one of the bogus 'miracles' like they've done in the past.


Not that you really care about being right, but given that he and his family all state it was medical science and are not claiming they prayed to anyone, it would be a real departure from how they decide these things in modern times. The Church has a pretty rigorous review of these things, employing outside medical specialists who have no connection to the Church and often aren't even Catholic to review medical records and the vast, vast majority of claimed miracles submitted to the Church every year are determined to have scientific explanations.
 
2013-09-04 01:29:33 PM  

Cid_Highwind: yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]

God, Randall Munroe sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic. "Grope for comfort before the slings and arrows"?

"INCOMIIIIING!"
"shiat, my blanket fell off!" *grope grope fumble fumble* "ahhhh"


Actually he was paraphrasing from Hamlet, you uncultured, orange fingered galloot.
 
2013-09-04 01:30:42 PM  

AGremlin: [www.atheistmemebase.com image 500x497]


Or this one.  Kinda-NSFW headline, lower in page.

/always been one of my favorites
 
2013-09-04 01:35:40 PM  
Newsflash: Placebo helps cancer patient feel better. Film at 11!!
 
2013-09-04 01:38:11 PM  
No, god is the one who gave you the cancer. I jest... but seriously that is the implication of believing in god - he is omnipotent and he makes all things, good and bad.
 
2013-09-04 01:43:56 PM  
I am shocked by the comparatively-smaller amount of hate in this thread.

Is there hope for Fark? Or am I just too early in the thread?
 
2013-09-04 01:48:12 PM  

Son of Thunder: I am shocked by the comparatively-smaller amount of hate in this thread.

Is there hope for Fark? Or am I just too early in the thread?


Your opinion is wrong and you're a terrible person who deserves all the suffering it's possible for someone to experience.

What's your opinion, again?
 
2013-09-04 01:48:52 PM  

Cagey B: yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]

Once again, XKCD makes a valid point in the most pedantic and douchey way possible.


and once again some pedantic douchebag misses the point that: THAT'S THE FARKING JOKE
 
2013-09-04 02:04:32 PM  
Srsich missed nearly his entire senior year of high school but was able to attend the prom and was named homecoming king, even though he was completely bald.

So bald people aren't normally allowed to be homecoming king, but they made an exception in his case?

/Also, I want to know how he got named homecoming king at the prom.
 
2013-09-04 02:09:59 PM  

show me: /Also, I want to know how he got named homecoming king at the prom.


THAT must be where God intervened.


/Also, that'd make a good Chuck Norris joke.
 
2013-09-04 02:10:34 PM  

Cid_Highwind: yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]

God, Randall Munroe sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic. "Grope for comfort before the slings and arrows"?

"INCOMIIIIING!"
"shiat, my blanket fell off!" *grope grope fumble fumble* "ahhhh"


Jeez, I'm really behind on my fark memes - just learned yesterday that it's cool to hate Mythbusters.  Now XKCD.

Good to know.
 
2013-09-04 02:11:03 PM  
a) God creates cancer
b) God helps man cure cancer
c) God is a hero!  Yay!
 
2013-09-04 02:15:05 PM  
So why did God decide to give him cancer in the first place? Because it was His will!

By treating the cancer, those doctors are acting against God's will.

Burn the heathen!
 
2013-09-04 02:21:36 PM  
Ah here we go... I knew it was way too early in the thread to be pleasantly surprised by the tone of the discussion.
 
2013-09-04 02:24:47 PM  

Fizpez: Ah here we go... I knew it was way too early in the thread to be pleasantly surprised by the tone of the discussion.


So you think that pointing out that it is typical for the religious to credit god with the cure while not crediting him as the cause is incorrect or somehow hateful?

How so?
 
2013-09-04 02:25:35 PM  
I'm impressed. He credits his faith with being a source of comfort and helping him to cope with it, but still gives credit to medical science and his doctors for the physical healing. What an amazing young man.
 
2013-09-04 02:27:14 PM  

Farking Canuck: Newsflash: Placebo helps cancer patient feel better. Film at 11!!


Last I checked a placebo was an ineffectual or simulated medical treatment.  Also last I checked wish foundations provided positive life experiences for children (and teens) suffering from serious and terminal illness.  I don't recall ever hearing anyone claim granting a wish was a medical treatment.  There was no placebo here.

The kid had cancer, the kid was depressed.  His wish to the foundation was to meet the Pope, he got to do that, it made him feel better.  WTF is wrong with anyone who has a problem with any of that?  The kid didn't credit the Pope with his recovery, he credited the doctors and the treatments.  He credited the granted wish and the community of people praying for him with helping his morale and helping him get through the whole ordeal from a mental/emotional/spiritual point of view.  If you have a problem with that you're sick.
 
2013-09-04 02:27:37 PM  
The kid's cured and has a well rounded opinion about it. Yell at him about it when he stumbles on fark some year down the road and gets snippy like the rest of us.
 
2013-09-04 02:27:42 PM  
I've never understood the phrase "God is my co-pilot."

If I was flying a plane and god was, in fact the co-pilot I'd say "Hey god, you're infallible and shiat so how about you handle the plane duties while I get drunk and bang the stewardess?"
 
2013-09-04 02:28:51 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: So why did God decide to give him cancer in the first place? Because it was His will!

By treating the cancer, those doctors are acting against God's will.

Burn the heathen!


You're looking at it all wrong.  God is just trying to stimulate the employment/economy by creating a problem and the solution.
 
2013-09-04 02:37:47 PM  
Engineer please...
 
2013-09-04 02:42:08 PM  

Highroller48: Good for him.  Just too bad he didn't meet the "good" pope.


NICE! I came here to say this-- glad someone else already did.

Son of Thunder: Is there hope for Fark? Or am I just too early in the thread?


I think it is specific to this circumstance. Here's a kid who is devoutly religious, but he understands that medical science is what cured him. It doesn't shake his faith any because for him, god was in the personal struggle he endured. God was the reason he was able to fight this and not give up hope. God was the source of his strength, and he believes without that faith he wouldn't have fared as well. And as an atheist I am not bothered in the least by that type of sentiment. I think he'll make an excellent priest one day and I wish there would be more like him.
 
2013-09-04 02:51:34 PM  
Why is this shocking? Dude is going to a Jesuit college. Jesuits are one of the groups of Christians who like science.
 
2013-09-04 02:51:41 PM  

neversubmit: vudukungfu: Well, one thing is for sure.
He's definitely Bi.

?


I worked with a waitress once that announced to me that she used to be gay.
I told her, Honey, if you're tying dick out for the first time, you're bi.
You been munching rug all your life and now you want to experiment with the cawk?
If you are suddenly getting enjoyment from men, and I mean "O"reos. and not just free food.
You're bi now. You now why?
Because If I went down on a guy, no guy would ever call me straight again, and you, sister, do not get a free pass just because you have a smoking hot body and suddenly have a hankering to get all churched up.

Of course, she burst into tears and got a boyfriend overnight, at teh bar, and attempted to convince him to beat me up for calling her "a slut" but this is a small town, and he knew what was up and just wanted a piece of that seldom tapped ass. So he promised to beat me up, banged her like a rag doll, and left her place, and bought me a beer at closing time.

But yeah, he's farking bi, now.
 
2013-09-04 03:41:08 PM  

vudukungfu: neversubmit: vudukungfu: Well, one thing is for sure.
He's definitely Bi.

?

I worked with a waitress once that announced to me that she used to be gay.
I told her, Honey, if you're tying dick out for the first time, you're bi.
You been munching rug all your life and now you want to experiment with the cawk?
If you are suddenly getting enjoyment from men, and I mean "O"reos. and not just free food.
You're bi now. You now why?
Because If I went down on a guy, no guy would ever call me straight again, and you, sister, do not get a free pass just because you have a smoking hot body and suddenly have a hankering to get all churched up.

Of course, she burst into tears and got a boyfriend overnight, at teh bar, and attempted to convince him to beat me up for calling her "a slut" but this is a small town, and he knew what was up and just wanted a piece of that seldom tapped ass. So he promised to beat me up, banged her like a rag doll, and left her place, and bought me a beer at closing time.

But yeah, he's farking bi, now.


You are so far over my head I don't even.. Some how I must a got dumber today. Are you saying he is bisexual and where did you get info from because I read the article (don't ban me Drew) twice and I didn't see anything about his sexuality.

/wanders away lost
 
2013-09-04 03:45:42 PM  

Cid_Highwind: yanceylebeef: [imgs.xkcd.com image 630x584]

God, Randall Munroe sucks so hard when he tries to wax poetic. "Grope for comfort before the slings and arrows"?

"INCOMIIIIING!"
"shiat, my blanket fell off!" *grope grope fumble fumble* "ahhhh"


"To be, or not to be: that is the question.  Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them: to die, to sleep no more; and by a sleep, to say we end the heart-ache, and the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to?  'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.  To die, to sleep; to sleep, perchance to dream; aye, there's the rub, for in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause."
 
2013-09-04 03:46:30 PM  

Farking Canuck: Newsflash: Placebo helps cancer patient feel better. Film at 11!!


No. A positive experience helped him feel better. It lifted his spirits and provided comfort during a very difficult time. Good morale and the will to survive can help give one the strength to endure.
 
2013-09-04 03:49:01 PM  

Nabb1: Sofa King Smart: so... science, human knowledge, passion, drive, education, etc for actually getting the job done... and 'god' for providing him a coping mechanism.   that sounds about right.  pretty sure the pope didn't have a damn thing to do with his recovery.  hope they aren't going to try to claim this as one of the bogus 'miracles' like they've done in the past.

Not that you really care about being right, but given that he and his family all state it was medical science and are not claiming they prayed to anyone, it would be a real departure from how they decide these things in modern times. The Church has a pretty rigorous review of these things, employing outside medical specialists who have no connection to the Church and often aren't even Catholic to review medical records and the vast, vast majority of claimed miracles submitted to the Church every year are determined to have scientific explanations.


not that you care either... but there are no miracles (except the ones who sang backup for Smokey Robinson)... none.. no magic... no godly interventions... nothing... don't exist... and any of them that have been classified by the church as 'miracles' are in fact, bogus.  For example, the nonsense they pushed through for the beatification of John Paul...   yeah... he gets credit for miracles AFTER HIS DEATH because someone allegedly prayed to him for intercession... and although we don't have any actual facts about the french nun's actual diagnosis and or recovery... it was a miracle and it was because of the ghost of John Paul...  complete and utter nonsense and I fee bad for anyone who has to perform the kind of mental gymnastics necessary for this crap to make sense.
 
Ant
2013-09-04 04:00:49 PM  

9Speed: a) God creates cancer
b) God helps man cure cancer
c) God is a hero!  Yay!


Awesome plan! I'm off to start the building on fire so I can rescue people. I'll be a hero!
 
Ant
2013-09-04 04:05:37 PM  

Fizpez: Ah here we go... I knew it was way too early in the thread to be pleasantly surprised by the tone of the discussion.


OK everybody, shhhh... It's disrespectful to make people think more deeply about the implications of their belief systems. You know this, we've been over it a thousand times. Civility is always more important than truth.
 
2013-09-04 04:17:29 PM  
A preacher goes up to a farmer and says "I see God has been good to your land."

"That may be", says the farmer, "but you should have seen it when he had it to himself."
 
2013-09-04 04:25:03 PM  

Sofa King Smart: Nabb1: Sofa King Smart: so... science, human knowledge, passion, drive, education, etc for actually getting the job done... and 'god' for providing him a coping mechanism.   that sounds about right.  pretty sure the pope didn't have a damn thing to do with his recovery.  hope they aren't going to try to claim this as one of the bogus 'miracles' like they've done in the past.

Not that you really care about being right, but given that he and his family all state it was medical science and are not claiming they prayed to anyone, it would be a real departure from how they decide these things in modern times. The Church has a pretty rigorous review of these things, employing outside medical specialists who have no connection to the Church and often aren't even Catholic to review medical records and the vast, vast majority of claimed miracles submitted to the Church every year are determined to have scientific explanations.

not that you care either... but there are no miracles (except the ones who sang backup for Smokey Robinson)... none.. no magic... no godly interventions... nothing... don't exist... and any of them that have been classified by the church as 'miracles' are in fact, bogus.  For example, the nonsense they pushed through for the beatification of John Paul...   yeah... he gets credit for miracles AFTER HIS DEATH because someone allegedly prayed to him for intercession... and although we don't have any actual facts about the french nun's actual diagnosis and or recovery... it was a miracle and it was because of the ghost of John Paul...  complete and utter nonsense and I fee bad for anyone who has to perform the kind of mental gymnastics necessary for this crap to make sense.


For someone who calls themselves smart in their moniker you sure suck at reading comprehension.  No one said a damn thing about claiming miracles in the article, you're the one who brought that up, and Nabb was mentioning that the Catholic Church is famously skeptical about them as well.  Unless it can be shown through documentation, proper medical diagnosis, and review from independent medical practitioners, that there is no known medical explanation, then the Church won't even entertain the idea of a miracle.  Whatever farking axe you have to grind has nothing to do with this article.  You don't have to believe the Church's explanation of miracles, and frankly if you aren't part of the Church no one expects you to.  I feel bad for you that you feel so compelled to be belligerent about the beliefs of others when they have nothing to do with you and what you believe.
 
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