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(The American Prospect)   What's killing poor white women? Other than my talking dog alter ego, of course   (prospect.org) divider line 113
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2013-09-04 12:08:56 PM
The fatness.
 
2013-09-04 12:33:30 PM
That was a looong article. And I'm too lazy.

/white woman
 
2013-09-04 01:16:46 PM
And the guy stays in reasonable shape because he has to hike his wife?
 
2013-09-04 01:18:00 PM
i253.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-04 01:18:27 PM
Why do talking dogs always tell people to kill?  Obviously, talking dogs are dicks
 
2013-09-04 01:18:49 PM
Clowns get them while they are sleeping.
 
2013-09-04 01:20:37 PM
www.jayandjshow.com
 
2013-09-04 01:21:11 PM
Working three jobs; no health care; poor diet.
 
2013-09-04 01:21:12 PM
Go be fat in heaven.
 
2013-09-04 01:21:18 PM

Lollipop165: That was a looong article. And I'm too lazy.

/white woman


Hopefully you'll be posting tomorrow.
 
2013-09-04 01:21:20 PM
Meth? Fat food? Poor life choices?

Bad puns?
 
2013-09-04 01:23:53 PM
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Me, I guess.

My mother was a poor white woman, and she constantly told me I would "be the death of her" and "put her in an early grave."

Sadly, I think she was right.
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jvl
2013-09-04 01:26:02 PM
Statistically, women who have children live longer than those who do not.

The census reports that fewer women have had children.

Hmm. What could be the cause of earlier mortality for women nowadays. Think. Think. Think.
 
2013-09-04 01:26:02 PM
Colt45?
 
2013-09-04 01:26:07 PM
Honey BooBoo
 
2013-09-04 01:27:47 PM
Trayvon Martin?
 
2013-09-04 01:28:28 PM
It doesn't take a long, useless article to bring out my response of "No shiat, Charlie Brown".

It's not only the obvious obesity epidemic ... it's the collective feelings of uselessness coupled with the loss of the will to do any more living.  Hmmm ... define "living", indeed.
 
2013-09-04 01:31:46 PM
I'll take Heart Disease and Diabetes for 500. And COPD for a thousand.
 
2013-09-04 01:32:11 PM

jvl: Statistically, women who have children live longer than those who do not.

The census reports that fewer women have had children.

Hmm. What could be the cause of earlier mortality for women nowadays. Think. Think. Think.


causation does not equal correlation
 
2013-09-04 01:33:44 PM

jvl: Statistically, women who have children live longer than those who do not.

The census reports that fewer women have had children.

Hmm. What could be the cause of earlier mortality for women nowadays. Think. Think. Think.


It isn't all women, dumbass, it's specifically white high school dropouts, and I strongly suspect they have more kids than the average. Don't let silly things like "facts" or "objective reality" get in the way of your idiotic point, though.

The correct answer, obviously, is diabeetus.
 
2013-09-04 01:33:53 PM

what_now: causation does not equal correlation


Actually, yes it does.  BUT correlation does not eqaul causation.

/sorry, couldn't resist.
 
2013-09-04 01:35:10 PM
McDonalds?
 
2013-09-04 01:35:29 PM

basemetal: The fatness.


Done in one. Pack it up, folks. Last one out hit the lights.
 
2013-09-04 01:36:55 PM
How would the situation be different or unique for poor white women as opposed to poor women of any race in the US?

Wouldn't they all tend to have kids at an early age, bad diet, poor health coverage, etc?
 
2013-09-04 01:39:09 PM

SirEattonHogg: How would the situation be different or unique for poor white women as opposed to poor women of any race in the US?

Wouldn't they all tend to have kids at an early age, bad diet, poor health coverage, etc?


It's because they spun the Wheel of the Oppressed to decide what group to write a meaningless article about and today it landed on "Poor White Women."
 
2013-09-04 01:42:25 PM
Now we are starting to see what equality looks like
 
2013-09-04 01:42:28 PM
This can't be right.

I've been reassured many times by Morning Joe, the Washington Post editorial board, and other Bloombergians who want to cut Social Security that life expectancy is ever-increasing and set to reach trilleventy years by this time tomorrow.
 
2013-09-04 01:45:12 PM
Aruba?
 
2013-09-04 01:50:28 PM
Wellon Dowd:
Working three jobs; no health care; poor diet.

That's ridiculous.  Who works three jobs and is still poor?

/seriously, nobody in a society as rich as ours should have to live the way these people live.  Hopefully "Megan" and "Corey" will do a little better.
 
2013-09-04 01:51:19 PM
She was a grandmother at 38?
 
2013-09-04 01:51:36 PM
static.tvgcdn.net
This guy.
 
2013-09-04 01:51:41 PM

jvl: Statistically, women who have children live longer than those who do not.

The census reports that fewer women have had children.

Hmm. What could be the cause of earlier mortality for women nowadays. Think. Think. Think.


There's a lot of reasons why this could be other than babies = longer life. Women who live longer have more opportunity to produce babies. Also selection bias - those women who have children were healthy enough to carry babies to full term in the first place. Also, women who have children have people to take care of them at the end of life. Etc, etc. Take an epidemiology course; you'll find it enlightening.

Oh yeah and it's definitely the obesity.
 
2013-09-04 01:54:11 PM

Treygreen13: SirEattonHogg: How would the situation be different or unique for poor white women as opposed to poor women of any race in the US?

Wouldn't they all tend to have kids at an early age, bad diet, poor health coverage, etc?

It's because they spun the Wheel of the Oppressed to decide what group to write a meaningless article about and today it landed on "Poor White Women."


The stats (assuming the article relayed them accurately) show a more significant decline for that demographic over all others. What is special about that demographic (poor white women who didn't finish HS)?

prospect.org

What indeed.

// diabeetus, heart/circulatory issues (I assume, based on the average redneck diet), she'd had an ovarian cyst removed, depression and general stress (seemed like a lot of shiat went bad just before she died), possibly someone (or several someones) in the family smoked like a chimney
// but that's just one case
// the plural of anecdote is NOT what, class?
 
2013-09-04 01:55:43 PM
Maybe they really shouldn't treat the category of high school dropouts as constant.

I would guess that the percent of dropouts has been declining which means that that category has been increasing in stupidity/incompetence.

It used to be that there could be economic-rational reasons to dropout. This may still hold for for some non-whites. For whites these days entering the dropout social class is almost impossible to recover from.
 
2013-09-04 01:55:45 PM

Wellon Dowd: Working three jobs; no health care; poor diet.


Pretty much this. My rural community has a lot of this sort of thing - stress, crap food, and an unwillingness to make any sort of lifestyle change that the doctor orders. The last one in particular I see all the time.  Take hypertension pills? Nope. Don't wanna. Cut out the six-pack a night? Never. Likes my beer. Stop eating fast food? But I'm so busy I can't cook! Exercise? Too much like work.

My physician said it best: "A nation eating ourselves to death in front of the TV."
 
2013-09-04 01:55:52 PM

vernonFL: She was a grandmother at 38?


I knew someone who became a grandmother at 34 and was super proud of it.
 
2013-09-04 01:56:24 PM

SirEattonHogg: How would the situation be different or unique for poor white women as opposed to poor women of any race in the US?

Wouldn't they all tend to have kids at an early age, bad diet, poor health coverage, etc?


It is the regression in life expectancy of poor white women that is unique. My guess is that African-American women never reached the life expectancy of white women, so we're not seeing the same degree of regression.

censuschannel.net
 
2013-09-04 01:56:25 PM
I saw a bunch of fat white women in Burger King today. Most were eating 2-4 times as much as me. I could'nt help to think, no wonder she is such a tub o lard.
 
2013-09-04 01:56:56 PM
No one cares about a fat white woman. They are mocked and dismissed by everybody. No compassion at all.
 
2013-09-04 01:57:00 PM

SirEattonHogg: How would the situation be different or unique for poor white women as opposed to poor women of any race in the US?


1)
Meth

2)
Poor white men tend to kill their wives and girlfriends (and themselves after a "barricade" situation).
(Poor black and latino men tend to kill other poor men)
 
2013-09-04 01:57:09 PM
Where do we start? Too uneducated to understand their health conditions and jump through all the hoops necessary to get their medication; too uneducated to understand that a healthy diet can diet can be had on a very tight budget so they eat crap; too uneducated to believe the facts about unhealthy lifestyle choices like smoking, drinking, and sedentary habits; it goes on and on...

I see this all the time in my patients! When you combine these facts with laziness (in regard to taking the trouble to do what needs to be done to become healthier), lack of personal accountability (it is always someone else's fault that they didn't have money or spent thier check already or didn't get their meds refilled yet), bad genes, and bad relationship skills (codependency and stress from unhealthy relationships)--you get a dead 38 y/o grandmother...

There is no mystery here. Until these people step up to the plate and take some initiave for themselves they will keep on dying. All the systems are in place to help them get healthier and live a longer higher-quality life-- but they have to make the effort too. Too many of them won't do it. Maybe they just are incapable of critical thinking when it comes to complex issues like this....
 
2013-09-04 02:00:49 PM

Obryn: vernonFL: She was a grandmother at 38?

I knew someone who became a grandmother at 34 and was super proud of it.


I think Loretta Lynn was a grandmother in her early thirties- in Eastern Kentucky in the 1960s.
 
2013-09-04 02:06:08 PM
Obama?
//he does everything evil. Amirite?
 
2013-09-04 02:06:13 PM
It's probably God killing them off because He hates them, as evidenced by the fact that they are poor.
 
2013-09-04 02:11:34 PM
               prospect.org

Perhaps she choked to death on that poor infant that she's obviously getting ready to consume.
 
2013-09-04 02:13:02 PM
Also, she's ugly.

CSB:

My adorable and sexy girlfriend is slightly overweight and I don't mind. Buy she dismisses her weight as, "Well, I've always been this way." And proceeds to eat cookies after lunch, junk food crackers after work and ice cream after dinner. I just keep my mouth shut.

And I stay thin.
 
2013-09-04 02:17:22 PM
What's killing poor white women?

Someone who was born a poor black man in Mississippi?
 
2013-09-04 02:17:27 PM
www.biography.com
Dogs say all kinds of things...
 
2013-09-04 02:18:04 PM
Is the answer black men?

Or maybe the fatness.
 
2013-09-04 02:19:01 PM
Obesity, drug use and alcoholism are probably the leading causes.
 
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