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2013-09-03 08:09:57 PM
I'm a big fan of Depeche Mode's cover of "Personal Jesus", myself.
 
2013-09-03 08:16:05 PM
To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.
 
2013-09-03 08:32:13 PM
Soundgarden's cover of "Rusty Cage" was good too.
 
2013-09-03 08:38:37 PM
Cash really made that song his. In every way possible.
 
2013-09-03 08:39:48 PM
Dolly Parton did a decent cover of Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You."
 
2013-09-03 08:43:36 PM
I heard the band Europe did a decent take on this song.
 
2013-09-03 08:43:59 PM
I once shot a journalist in Reno, just to watch them die over an article they didn't fact check correctly.
 
2013-09-03 08:51:59 PM
Kristofferson covered Sunday Monday Coming Down and Bobby MCghee.
 
2013-09-03 08:53:14 PM

TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.


This doesn't change the definition of "original" and "cover."
 
2013-09-03 08:53:35 PM

Thelyphthoric: I heard the band Europe did a decent take on this song.


That cover is always good for a laugh... for about ten seconds. It does make me wonder what the song would sound like with a harpsichord.
 
2013-09-03 08:54:54 PM
Soooooo.... NIN playing for Jay-Z's Made in America tour? What's with that?
 
2013-09-03 08:54:57 PM
I must say, Cyndi Lauper's cover of Phil Collins' "True Colors" is just atrocious.
 
2013-09-03 08:56:07 PM

TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.


Bob Dylan said the same after hearing Jimi Hendrix do "All Along the Watchtower".

Sometimes, you just got to step aside and let greatness shine.
 
2013-09-03 08:56:53 PM

TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.


This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.
 
2013-09-03 08:59:49 PM

Aristocles: Soooooo.... NIN playing for Jay-Z's Made in America tour? What's with that?


Trent likes money.
 
2013-09-03 09:03:29 PM

Glitchwerks: Aristocles: Soooooo.... NIN playing for Jay-Z's Made in America tour? What's with that?

Trent likes money.


Maybe he should start to make good music again and ditch Yoko.
 
2013-09-03 09:04:17 PM

blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.


You know why it's better? You can literally hear it in Cash's voice. I hurt when he sings it because he's go so much soul behind it. The NiN version just sounds like a band singing a song. When Cash gets into it, I get goosebumps.
 
2013-09-03 09:08:02 PM
I loved Cash's cover, but I've been sick of it for years. Still enjoy the original tho.
 
2013-09-03 09:08:44 PM
To be fair, Cash made the song his after the cover.
 
2013-09-03 09:09:15 PM
Lets really face it When Johnny Cash covered a song he made it his.
 
2013-09-03 09:10:35 PM
When they toured together a few (18? Really? fark I'm old) years back, Bowie and Trent did a really nice duet of the song
 
2013-09-03 09:12:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.

You know why it's better? You can literally hear it in Cash's voice. I hurt when he sings it because he's go so much soul behind it. The NiN version just sounds like a band singing a song. When Cash gets into it, I get goosebumps.


blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.



I've never understood this pov. I've always felt NIN's was better, and by a good amount. Cash's cover is one of those rare times when it really is almost as good, but after seeing NIN performing this song live, you see who's song it really is, regardless of what Reznor says.
 
2013-09-03 09:12:52 PM
Seen Johnny Cash perform. /off of my empire of dirt/
 
2013-09-03 09:12:53 PM
Nothing against Trent Reznor, and while I appreciate Johnny Cash, he's not really my thing.

But Johnny Cash's rendition is just  A. MAZE. ING. I just listened to each performance. The Trent Reznor is good. It's just ... not incredible. Trent's written an outstanding song, and Johnny makes every single word count. I hang on every phrase, I hear every image he's putting in my head.
 
2013-09-03 09:14:51 PM
I loved Clapton's cover of Layla.
 
2013-09-03 09:22:04 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... let's clear some things up here:

Johnny Cash's version is pretty good for grampa. It's nothing to get excited about.

Reznor's version is the definitive version, the superior version. The song is about heroin, not a dead wife. It doesn't matter if Cash was all butt hurt over his dead Carter family wife, just because he sounds like he's about to break down and cry doesn't mean his version is better. NIN's was better. I don't know if Trent's farked the song up lately because of Yoko, but the downward spiral version is the version.
 
2013-09-03 09:22:09 PM
What about Willie Nelson's cover of Patsy Cline's Crazy?
 
2013-09-03 09:22:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ta7mkgrOU you don't have a soul if you don't know that Kermit's version is much better than either NIN or Cash...

also Guns and Roses couldn't touch the original Sheryl Crow version of Sweet Child of Mine.
 
2013-09-03 09:22:37 PM

StopLurkListen: Nothing against Trent Reznor, and while I appreciate Johnny Cash, he's not really my thing.

But Johnny Cash's rendition is just  A. MAZE. ING. I just listened to each performance. The Trent Reznor is good. It's just ... not incredible. Trent's written an outstanding song, and Johnny makes every single word count. I hang on every phrase, I hear every image he's putting in my head.


That whole goddamn album is powerful like that. Cash put his soul on vinyl.
 
2013-09-03 09:25:09 PM
Otis Redding did an amazing cover of Aretha Franklin's 'Respect'
 
2013-09-03 09:31:09 PM
I kinda like Robin Thickes cover of Miley Cyrus' "Blurred Lines"
 
2013-09-03 09:32:49 PM
The last AV article was about Murphy Brown, iirc. At least we're getting close to this decade.
 
2013-09-03 09:33:32 PM
To be fair, both versions are bad in their own way.
 
2013-09-03 09:34:12 PM

wholedamnshow: scottydoesntknow: blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.

You know why it's better? You can literally hear it in Cash's voice. I hurt when he sings it because he's go so much soul behind it. The NiN version just sounds like a band singing a song. When Cash gets into it, I get goosebumps.

blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.


I've never understood this pov. I've always felt NIN's was better, and by a good amount. Cash's cover is one of those rare times when it really is almost as good, but after seeing NIN performing this song live, you see who's song it really is, regardless of what Reznor says.


Different strokes and all.  I've never seen NIN live, so maybe that adds something to it.  I have friend who's a huge NIN fan, all of their albums, every import or slight variation he can get ahold of, seen them multiple times, etc.  I never really fell that deep into it, though I'll admit I do love The Fragile, and bought that one myself, easily the best NIN album IMO.
 
2013-09-03 09:38:36 PM

Aristocles: Reznor's version is the definitive version, the superior version. The song is about heroin, not a dead wife. It doesn't matter if Cash was all butt hurt over his dead Carter family wife, just because he sounds like he's about to break down and cry doesn't mean his version is better. NIN's was better. I don't know if Trent's farked the song up lately because of Yoko, but the downward spiral version is the version.


June Carter Cash was still alive when he did this cover.  She was in the video.  Cash's version was about an old man looking back on life and reflecting on what's been lost.  The fact that he could impart a completely different meaning to the song while using the same lyrics is pretty amazing.  But that's Johnny Cash.
 
2013-09-03 09:38:51 PM

TuteTibiImperes: wholedamnshow: scottydoesntknow: blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.

You know why it's better? You can literally hear it in Cash's voice. I hurt when he sings it because he's go so much soul behind it. The NiN version just sounds like a band singing a song. When Cash gets into it, I get goosebumps.

blakeosage: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

This.

Let's be fair, Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" is a hell of a lot better than NIИ.


I've never understood this pov. I've always felt NIN's was better, and by a good amount. Cash's cover is one of those rare times when it really is almost as good, but after seeing NIN performing this song live, you see who's song it really is, regardless of what Reznor says.

Different strokes and all.  I've never seen NIN live, so maybe that adds something to it.  I have friend who's a huge NIN fan, all of their albums, every import or slight variation he can get ahold of, seen them multiple times, etc.  I never really fell that deep into it, though I'll admit I do love The Fragile, and bought that one myself, easily the best NIN album IMO.


You know Vince, too?
 
2013-09-03 09:40:00 PM
"I pop the video in, and wow... Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps... Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore... It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning - different, but every bit as pure." - Trent Reznor
 
2013-09-03 09:42:04 PM

Mentat: Aristocles: Reznor's version is the definitive version, the superior version. The song is about heroin, not a dead wife. It doesn't matter if Cash was all butt hurt over his dead Carter family wife, just because he sounds like he's about to break down and cry doesn't mean his version is better. NIN's was better. I don't know if Trent's farked the song up lately because of Yoko, but the downward spiral version is the version.

June Carter Cash was still alive when he did this cover.  She was in the video.  Cash's version was about an old man looking back on life and reflecting on what's been lost.  The fact that he could impart a completely different meaning to the song while using the same lyrics is pretty amazing.  But that's Johnny Cash.


Not to mention Cash had addiction problems of his own that caused him plenty of pain, I'm sure he could relate.
 
2013-09-03 09:46:41 PM

Aristocles: The song is about heroin, not a dead wife.


Johnny Cash did more drugs than all of NIN put together.  Pull your head out of your ass sometime, you might learn something.
 
2013-09-03 09:47:33 PM

Superjew: Aristocles: The song is about heroin, not a dead wife.

Johnny Cash did more drugs than all of NIN put together.  Pull your head out of your ass sometime, you might learn something.


He trolls MUSIC THREADS too!

Good grief.
 
2013-09-03 09:48:04 PM

Aristocles: Whoa, whoa, whoa.... let's clear some things up here:

Johnny Cash's version is pretty good for grampa. It's nothing to get excited about.

Reznor's version is the definitive version, the superior version. The song is about heroin, not a dead wife. It doesn't matter if Cash was all butt hurt over his dead Carter family wife, just because he sounds like he's about to break down and cry doesn't mean his version is better. NIN's was better. I don't know if Trent's farked the song up lately because of Yoko, but the downward spiral version is the version.


3/10. You'll probably get a few bites.
 
2013-09-03 09:50:44 PM
Cash had plenty of great covers on the "American" albums, but check out the box set "Unearthed" - it's a bunch of originals and covers Johnny cut with Rick Rubin that didn't make any of the albums.  There are some real gems in there.

My favorite cover from "Unearthed" - Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" (with ex-RHCP guitarist John Frusciante).
 
2013-09-03 09:52:07 PM

Mentat: Aristocles: Reznor's version is the definitive version, the superior version. The song is about heroin, not a dead wife. It doesn't matter if Cash was all butt hurt over his dead Carter family wife, just because he sounds like he's about to break down and cry doesn't mean his version is better. NIN's was better. I don't know if Trent's farked the song up lately because of Yoko, but the downward spiral version is the version.

June Carter Cash was still alive when he did this cover.  She was in the video.  Cash's version was about an old man looking back on life and reflecting on what's been lost.  The fact that he could impart a completely different meaning to the song while using the same lyrics is pretty amazing.  But that's Johnny Cash.


I didn't realize Cash changed the lyrics. Presumably he didn't talk about "the needle tears a hole/ the old familiar sting"

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IeOveyCXzk  is classic Cash.
Cash was better
 
2013-09-03 09:52:37 PM
With all due apologies to the late Johnny Cash, while his version is admittedly good, I just do not care for it. I prefer the original.
 
2013-09-03 09:53:08 PM

Superjew: Aristocles: The song is about heroin, not a dead wife.

Johnny Cash did more drugs than all of NIN put together.  Pull your head out of your ass sometime, you might learn something.


NIN is one dude.

You just outed yourself as a non-music-aficionado.
 
2013-09-03 09:54:20 PM

Ishkur: TuteTibiImperes: To be fair, after Reznor heard the Cash version he said that it was Johnny Cash's song now.

Bob Dylan said the same after hearing Jimi Hendrix do "All Along the Watchtower".

Sometimes, you just got to step aside and let greatness shine.


Meh, you young whippersnappers - I remember when Fats Domino covered Pat Boone's "Isn't That A Shame", and made it all ungrammatical.

/now get off my lawn while I listen to Louis Prima's cover of this great Brian Setzer tune.
 
2013-09-03 09:56:01 PM

Mentat: I loved Clapton's cover of Layla.


Heh... I was going to say... I once worked with a young guy about a year or two after Clapton came out with his slow Layla. They played the original on the radio and he said "Man this guy has totally ruined that song."
 
2013-09-03 09:56:43 PM

Tigger: Superjew: Aristocles: The song is about heroin, not a dead wife.

Johnny Cash did more drugs than all of NIN put together.  Pull your head out of your ass sometime, you might learn something.

He trolls MUSIC THREADS too!

Good grief.


I'm a renaissance man, son. I see people wrong about all types of shiat on the internet.
 
2013-09-03 09:57:43 PM
Cash's cover of Hurt is sort of like the reverse of Monkey Jesus. Not that NiN's original is as bad as Monkey Jesus, it's a very good song, but the improvement made by Cash is that stark.
 
2013-09-03 10:01:01 PM
I always felt embarrassed for Cash after he put that blatant cash grab and appeal to "the kids" out. He was doing just fine connecting to a new generation and the line "I hurt myself today to see if I still feel" is such a juvenile sentiment that it's out of place in his body of work. Probably I'd equate it with Pat Boone's "In A Metal Mood" for the level of insult leveled at the fans.
 
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