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2013-09-03 03:56:23 PM  
This woman has a 6 year old that takes violin lessons and it biatching because her precious little snowflake has some homework?  get over yourself sweetheart.
 
2013-09-03 04:00:16 PM  
*shrug* My "play" time included reading massive piles of books and going to science exhibits at JPL and Griffith Park Observatory. Best way to learn, imo.

/got into an argument with my 8th-grade science teacher over whether or not Mars was the Greek or Roman god of war
//really funny to watch an adult get all pissy because a student proved him wrong
 
2013-09-03 04:14:52 PM  
I have three kids and agree with TFA. Elementary students should not have an hour of homework when they've already been in school eight hours.

Middle and high school I understand, but I hate the stress and what feels like an interruption of the short time we have in the evenings.
 
2013-09-03 04:39:18 PM  
Peki:
/got into an argument with my 8th-grade science teacher over whether or not Mars was the Greek or Roman god of war
//really funny to watch an adult get all pissy because a student proved him wrong


My 8th grade science teacher was teaching her very first year after a stint as a Houston Oiler cheerleader...and she used to wear low cut sweaters.  I constantly needed her help with questions like, "Could you show me how many electrons are in this element?"  "I need you to explain to me how storms form over water." "Please help me determine where Earth is in the solar system." "I don't understand the difference between solids and liquids."......you know, anything that had her leaning over your desk with her hand on your shoulder...usually showing cleavage.
 
2013-09-03 04:40:23 PM  
It was actually a bit difficult giving out homework when was a teacher-- these days (or at least at all the schools I taught at) the textbooks stay in the classrooms, so I couldn't give assignments out of those.

I gave out the occasional homework worksheet, but much of the page needed to be taken up with a recap of how to do the problems because they didn't have the textbook to refer to.

And doing two page worksheets were a major PITA-- twice the paper (since two sided copies always jammed the machine) and I'd get the stinkeye from the other teachers for hogging the copier. That was, of course, assuming it was early enough in the school year that the allotted supply of toner wasn't used up. Then you were just SOL when it came to printing something out or making copies at work.

And, no, the school was NOT going to pay for consumable workbooks!  That would involve spending money, which would require raising taxes, which is SOCIALISM and would make baby Jesus cry...
 
2013-09-03 04:42:56 PM  

ytterbium: I have three kids and agree with TFA. Elementary students should not have an hour of homework when they've already been in school eight hours.

Middle and high school I understand, but I hate the stress and what feels like an interruption of the short time we have in the evenings.


This, spelling words are one thing but 3 math and English worksheets for a 7 year old?
 
2013-09-03 05:05:58 PM  
However, what I discovered was that starting in about second or third grade, each of my three oldest needed significant parental involvement to plow thru what I found to be an unreasonable amount of take-home work.

You shouldn't have kept breeding if you knew you were just popping out tards.
 
2013-09-03 05:14:43 PM  
Headline:Homework is hard on my kids and eats up their time.

Article: Screw the kids; homework is hard on me and eats up my time!
 
2013-09-03 05:25:31 PM  
turnkeyanalyst.com
 
2013-09-03 05:26:12 PM  
This is reason #528 why China is Kicking Our Ass.
 
2013-09-03 05:29:06 PM  
If you named your kids C and E how are they going to get an A or B?
 
2013-09-03 05:29:45 PM  

ytterbium: I have three kids and agree with TFA. Elementary students should not have an hour of homework when they've already been in school eight hours.

Middle and high school I understand, but I hate the stress and what feels like an interruption of the short time we have in the evenings.


I agree, too. I think it's a lot more important for kids 5-12 to spend their off time learning social skills and making friends than memorizing spelling words and multiplication tables. I mean, a few spelling words a week is fine, but it shouldn't take up much time.

Homework becomes important for learning later, but honestly, in elementary school, the stuff you're learning is not typically the kind of stuff that you have to revisit that night in order to retain it.
 
2013-09-03 05:29:48 PM  
On a related note... all this WORKING is getting in the way of MY playtime!

Is it really necessary?
 
2013-09-03 05:30:58 PM  
Lady, you can rest assured know that approx 80% of the world population doesn't have the problems you've just explained, now, given a choice, are you ready to do some homework?

/pathetic
 
2013-09-03 05:30:58 PM  
This the coont trying to ban tobacco?
 
2013-09-03 05:31:41 PM  
Mom felt the same way.
 
2013-09-03 05:31:43 PM  
I understand not wanting to use your kids' real names in an article. Fine. Whatever. But then make up fake names, don't call them "C" and "E". All the author is doing is dehumanizing the kids and make me not care about them.

I might feel bad for all of the work "Chris" has to do. I don't care if "C" is busy.
 
2013-09-03 05:31:54 PM  
One of the philosophies they drilled into us when I was getting my Ed degree was that giving your kids a lot of homework was a sign of crappy lesson planning.
A lot of parents aren't equipped to help with some subjects...and it is what they pay you for...teaching the kids while the little snowflakes are in school
 
2013-09-03 05:32:30 PM  
When my now high school senior was in 7th grade, one of her teachers thought nothing of giving the students 3-4 hours of homework a night....never mind that they might also have homework from other classes.  Went on for about half of the first quarter before the principal got tired of daily phone calls and visits from parents....Homework is a good thing....in moderation.  But if you, as a teacher, can't impart the knowledge on the students through your presentation and a quick review, you suck at your job.
 
2013-09-03 05:32:31 PM  
Actual research says homework doesn't really do kids much good. The work should be done in school.

Also, learning and playing go together very nicely.
 
2013-09-03 05:33:18 PM  
She says homework cuts into their family time.

Does she really think her kids want to spend 3-4 hours every evening shooting the breeze with Mom?

Maybe homework is cutting into tv time.
 
2013-09-03 05:33:34 PM  

Chinchillazilla: ytterbium: I have three kids and agree with TFA. Elementary students should not have an hour of homework when they've already been in school eight hours.

Middle and high school I understand, but I hate the stress and what feels like an interruption of the short time we have in the evenings.

I agree, too. I think it's a lot more important for kids 5-12 to spend their off time learning social skills and making friends than memorizing spelling words and multiplication tables. I mean, a few spelling words a week is fine, but it shouldn't take up much time.

Homework becomes important for learning later, but honestly, in elementary school, the stuff you're learning is not typically the kind of stuff that you have to revisit that night in order to retain it.


Yeah I thnk the only real homework I had in elementary school was maybe a diorama or something along those lines at least until the 4th grade. Well maybe you should cut back on the kids activitys.
 
2013-09-03 05:34:07 PM  
When I was a kid you would have reading or math work sheet. By time I was in 5th grade we had an hour of home work per subject per night. Part of the problem is the state tests they have to take. The teachers spend all there time teaching the tests, that they have no time to teach subjects.
 
2013-09-03 05:34:11 PM  

Riche: It was actually a bit difficult giving out homework when was a teacher-- these days (or at least at all the schools I taught at) the textbooks stay in the classrooms, so I couldn't give assignments out of those.

I gave out the occasional homework worksheet, but much of the page needed to be taken up with a recap of how to do the problems because they didn't have the textbook to refer to.

And doing two page worksheets were a major PITA-- twice the paper (since two sided copies always jammed the machine) and I'd get the stinkeye from the other teachers for hogging the copier. That was, of course, assuming it was early enough in the school year that the allotted supply of toner wasn't used up. Then you were just SOL when it came to printing something out or making copies at work.

And, no, the school was NOT going to pay for consumable workbooks!  That would involve spending money, which would require raising taxes, which is SOCIALISM and would make baby Jesus cry...


Depends on the class, of course, but back in Romania the teacher would have 3-4 students write up the homework problems on the board (which were on top of the ones in the book) for math subjects. 1 hour of homework for math alone and you'd have 15-18 subjects each year starting with 5th grade. Only Romanian and Math was daily (3 days algebra and 2 days geometry) and all the other subjects 2 or 3 times a week.

When I left the country (1994) they started adding logic and computer programming in all highschools no matter what your area of study was (Highschools were geared towards different subjects as well - some HS were good for hard sciences, some for history/social sciences and a couple for arts). Of course you'd have to take a test to get into highschool and the one for computer science had about 30 students per spot.

/yes, there is a reason why Romanian is second most popular spoken language at Microsoft
//also why western europe doesn't want to allow qualified workers from Romania and Bulgaria in their countries although the EU agreement stated that in 2013 all limits on immigration would be lifted.
 
2013-09-03 05:36:26 PM  
I gonna take a guess that she's a stay at home mommy.

will she be following her children into their adult life to make sure boss doesn't overwhelm them with work?
 
2013-09-03 05:37:08 PM  

TheOtherMisterP: I understand not wanting to use your kids' real names in an article. Fine. Whatever. But then make up fake names, don't call them "C" and "E". All the author is doing is dehumanizing the kids and make me not care about them.

I might feel bad for all of the work "Chris" has to do. I don't care if "C" is busy.


Some states require a amount of homework per night per subject.
 
2013-09-03 05:37:29 PM  
My child shouldn't be required to learn because it takes away from their play time organized activity time that makes me feel superior to other parents
 
2013-09-03 05:37:42 PM  
Really, can I possibly be the first to point out that Subby needs homework on Grammar?

"My child" - singular, "their play time" - plural.

Le sigh...
 
2013-09-03 05:38:08 PM  
I don't remember getting that much damn homework in elementary school. When I did, parents were on my case until I got it done, and when I did, they told me to go play outside, as long as I come back for dinner.

/didn't have a lot of after-school activities, though
 
2013-09-03 05:39:32 PM  

Deucednuisance: Really, can I possibly be the first to point out that Subby needs homework on Grammar?

"My child" - singular, "their play time" - plural.

Le sigh...


"Their" can also be singular if you don't want to specify gender.
 
2013-09-03 05:39:43 PM  

Isitoveryet: Lady, you can rest assured know that approx 80% of the world population doesn't have the problems you've just explained, now, given a choice, are you ready to do some homework?

/pathetic


I'd wager that close to 80% of the world's population either a) are damn thankful they had/have a school to go to and appreciate the ability to take schoolwork home with them, or b) would give anything to be in that previous group.

/waah. my kid's educational requirements mean less time for his super-important sports.
//first world problems
 
2013-09-03 05:39:47 PM  

griff61: One of the philosophies they drilled into us when I was getting my Ed degree was that giving your kids a lot of homework was a sign of crappy lesson planning.
A lot of parents aren't equipped to help with some subjects...and it is what they pay you for...teaching the kids while the little snowflakes are in school


Some subjects need repetition. Math, physics and chemistry. Balancing equations in chemistry isn't learned in one or two excercises and they way kids are not allowed to fail in the US, most of the time in class is devoted to the 4-5 kids that should not be in school past 5th grade because they just don't get it.
 
2013-09-03 05:40:38 PM  
I never make my kid's due homework. I right a small note on each sheet statting that school hours are betwen 7:20am and 3:20pm and thats' when my children will do schoolwork, not any other time. When they are grown I wouldnt want them talking a job that made them bring work home, why would I let schol do that to them?
 
2013-09-03 05:41:28 PM  

ddam: /yes, there is a reason why Romanian is second most popular spoken language at Microsoft


It's probably because India has something like 34 native languages and Romania has one.
 
2013-09-03 05:43:52 PM  

Chinchillazilla: "Their" can also be singular if you don't want to specify gender.


I realize that this is currently allowable, it's still an excuse for imprecise writing.

"A person may change their mind"

is just a lazy writer's way of saying

"One may change one's mind" or some other more precise wording.

It's a clunky convention to which I say:

"Fiddlesticks!"
 
2013-09-03 05:43:52 PM  
"the only way they were going to get the work done was if one of their parents stayed nearby for the next 30-120 minutes and made sure that they did."

Isn't that what parents are supposed to do?

I swear, parents these days don't want to do ANY of the work that comes with having kids.

rudemix: I never make my kid's due homework. I right a small note on each sheet statting that school hours are betwen 7:20am and 3:20pm and thats' when my children will do schoolwork, not any other time. When they are grown I wouldnt want them talking a job that made them bring work home, why would I let schol do that to them?


Either A. Nice troll or B. Nice parody/sarcasm.
 
2013-09-03 05:44:07 PM  

This text is now purple: ddam: /yes, there is a reason why Romanian is second most popular spoken language at Microsoft

It's probably because India has something like 34 native languages and Romania has one.


I know you've got some dev problems, and I feel bad for you son...

/Romanian? Actually surprising.
 
2013-09-03 05:44:22 PM  
Her kids have too much scheduled after school stuff it sounds like to me.

Last year Monster did about twenty minutes worth of homework (grade 1). It hardly impacted our time together or stressed her out. Usually she was proud to show off what she had learned that day.
 
2013-09-03 05:44:44 PM  

Tom_Slick: ytterbium: I have three kids and agree with TFA. Elementary students should not have an hour of homework when they've already been in school eight hours.

Middle and high school I understand, but I hate the stress and what feels like an interruption of the short time we have in the evenings.

This, spelling words are one thing but 3 math and English worksheets for a 7 year old?


An English worksheet could consist of just some spelling words or some questions referring to a short story (couple of paragraphs) to test reading comprehension.  All probably in huge font.  A math worksheet is probably 5 or 6 problems.   This isn't a lot of homework for a 1st grader.  Author in TFA is a whiny helicopter parent who thinks homework is bogging down her precious snowflakes' time.

Homework's not busy work.  It lets the teacher know if the lessons got through to the kid.

/Former teacher
 
2013-09-03 05:44:57 PM  
Disclaimer: I haven't read the article.

There is disagreement about whether there are actually any benefits to the practice of giving young students homework.  Meanwhile, there are plenty of studies in agreement about the value of play.  I don't think it would be hard to make the argument that many types of play would be more beneficial for children than the same amount of time spent on homework.

As a starting point for understanding existing homework research, for anyone who is interested, this article may be useful:   http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/HWach.htm
 
2013-09-03 05:45:10 PM  
So dont make your kid do the homework. Where I live the system will keep passing them no matter what. As long as you are comfortable that your child understands the content then who cares? Only in high school does it matter when you need to earn credits for your diploma and get high marks to get in a good university or college.
 
2013-09-03 05:45:28 PM  
I had very little homework in elementary school. Even in junior high and high school, I don't remember having hours and hours of homework like my nieces and nephews do now. I played three sports, was a member of several school clubs including debate and drama, and never felt as if I still didn't have time to do normal kid stuff. I don't know why there is so much homework now. It doesn't seem to be making our kids any smarter.

My sister's kids all attend school in AZ, which is often ranked at the bottom for public schools. I attended an excellent public school district in PA. Somehow my teachers managed to teach us without overwhelming us with homework, which left us with plenty of time for sports and other activities.
 
2013-09-03 05:45:31 PM  

griff61: One of the philosophies they drilled into us when I was getting my Ed degree was that giving your kids a lot of homework was a sign of crappy lesson planning.
A lot of parents aren't equipped to help with some subjects...and it is what they pay you for...teaching the kids while the little snowflakes are in school


I really liked the TED talk that Salman Khan gave. He talked about the idea that, nowadays, the lecture can be at home. Then, what used to be homework can be done in school. This way, the lecture can be watched until it's understood and the teacher will be there to answer questions about the "homework".

It doesn't do much to solve the "homework takes too much time" issue, but it completely solves the "parents aren't equipped to help with some subjects" issue.
 
2013-09-03 05:45:56 PM  

RightWingWacko: On a related note... all this WORKING is getting in the way of MY playtime!

Is it really necessary?


Depends, do you work a full day and come home to some unpaid work for 6 hours?
 
2013-09-03 05:46:36 PM  

Deucednuisance: Chinchillazilla: "Their" can also be singular if you don't want to specify gender.

I realize that this is currently allowable, it's still an excuse for imprecise writing.

"A person may change their mind"

is just a lazy writer's way of saying

"One may change one's mind" or some other more precise wording.

It's a clunky convention to which I say:

"Fiddlesticks!"


But it has the bonus of not sounding completely pretentious, unlike using "one".
 
2013-09-03 05:47:42 PM  
Lol typical American bullshiat. Instead of trying to teach our kids to rise in the face of adversity we just teach them to blame everyone else and lower the bar in the process.
 
2013-09-03 05:49:31 PM  

Isitoveryet: I gonna take a guess that she's a stay at home mommy.


will she be following her children into their adult life to make sure boss doesn't overwhelm them with work?

Nope: "As a working, single parent with three children, homework often devours whole evenings at our house, leaving no time for relaxed discussion or even shared chores like cooking or cleaning up the kitchen."

As for the other part, I imagine she would biatch if her children's bosses expected her to help with their after-work work. Her main complaint seems to be that the kids are assigned so much work that not only does it take up the kids' evenings, it also takes up her own evenings because she has to help them to make sure it goes at all efficiently. It's hard to fault her for helping them, either, since there's lots of pressure on parents to help their kids learn.
 
2013-09-03 05:49:54 PM  

keepitcherry: Instead of trying to teach our kids to rise in the face of adversity we just teach them to blame everyone else and lower the bar in the process.


I dunno, the best school systems in Europe don't have homework at all until fourth or fifth grade. And then when they do start having homework, they have very little of it.
 
2013-09-03 05:50:09 PM  

zabadu: "the only way they were going to get the work done was if one of their parents stayed nearby for the next 30-120 minutes and made sure that they did."

Isn't that what parents are supposed to do?

I swear, parents these days don't want to do ANY of the work that comes with having kids.

rudemix: I never make my kid's due homework. I right a small note on each sheet statting that school hours are betwen 7:20am and 3:20pm and thats' when my children will do schoolwork, not any other time. When they are grown I wouldnt want them talking a job that made them bring work home, why would I let schol do that to them?

Either A. Nice troll or B. Nice parody/sarcasm.


;)  and you missed two
 
2013-09-03 05:50:27 PM  

keepitcherry: Lol typical American bullshiat. Instead of trying to teach our kids to rise in the face of adversity we just teach them to blame everyone else and lower the bar in the process.


Newsletter, please.
 
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