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(Today)   Researchers dismayed to find that Gen Y employees are the first to figure out how corporate America really works. I'd finish this headline, but I just got thrown under the bus by Steve in Accounting   (today.com) divider line 232
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2013-09-03 02:10:01 PM  
It's almost like, maybe Gen Y figured out that the corporate world is 110% dog eat dog, that the system is permanently rigged, and noone is going to help you when the chips are set to fall.  and they are reacting accordingly.
 
2013-09-03 02:11:51 PM  
"YOU, ALRIGHT! I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU!"
 
2013-09-03 02:12:58 PM  
I'm 34 and I'm not a manager.

Where did I go wrong?
 
2013-09-03 02:16:26 PM  

Rev.K: I'm 34 and I'm not a manager.

Where did I go wrong?


Nearly 31, and never want to be a people manager.
 
2013-09-03 02:19:02 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: It's almost like, maybe Gen Y figured out that the corporate world is 110% dog eat dog, that the system is permanently rigged, and noone is going to help you when the chips are set to fall.  and they are reacting accordingly.


Meanwhile, 30 years ago, someone else probably wrote this same article.

They called him a hippie and threw his ass out the door without publishing the story, but that's why we have the internet now.

// I knew this when I was 18, and I'm pretty sure my dad said as much about his bosses
 
2013-09-03 02:21:55 PM  
That's nice. Now how about ending this little hipster water-cooler meeting and getting the f**k back to work? 'kay, comrades?
 
2013-09-03 02:22:09 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: noone is going to help you when the chips are set to fall.


i43.tinypic.com

"Sorry, mate - you're on your own!"
 
2013-09-03 02:23:50 PM  

FlashHarry: Grand_Moff_Joseph: noone is going to help you when the chips are set to fall.

[i43.tinypic.com image 314x354]

"Sorry, mate - you're on your own!"


Well, there go my grammar points for today.  :(
 
2013-09-03 02:24:09 PM  
I wonder if they are worried about themselves because a shiatload of them are not making enough money to make ends meet and watching completely unequal compensation go to the owners and boards of said corporations
 
2013-09-03 02:26:17 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Well, there go my grammar points for today.  :(


sorry - couldn't resist!
 
2013-09-03 02:27:45 PM  

Elandriel: I wonder if they are worried about themselves because a shiatload of them are not making enough money to make ends meet and watching completely unequal compensation go to the owners and boards of said corporations


i think it's more a case of them being educated in schools that awarded medals for ninth place. they've been coddled since birth and expect to be coddled at work too.

/gen x.
//harumph!
 
2013-09-03 02:30:47 PM  

FlashHarry: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Well, there go my grammar points for today.  :(

sorry - couldn't resist!


Well, I earned it, lol.  *goes back to desk to pout*  :D
 
2013-09-03 02:41:33 PM  
FTA:The good news is that Gen Y members are perceived as tech savvy, and smart about ways to leverage social media

Social Media != tech savvy

The number of people my age I know who are inept when it comes to computers and tech is amazing. Oh! I might have to reboot my desktop after I've left a java filled website running for a week? What's that scarey looking black and white text screen?

The ability to upload a video to Facebook is nothing on the tech scale. Most people don't know the first thing about how their microwaves work let alone their computer. It like arguing that a good driver makes a good mechanic. I wonder how many can even create an Excel sheet with formulas?

I would like to see that revenue vs expenditures of social media vs print and TV ad campaigns. So your company created a meme, how many more bottle of Dos XX got sold?

//the term leverage needs to be binned from it's current usage
///going to leverage the cloud to increase synergy as a value proposition to achieve six sigma
 
2013-09-03 02:45:06 PM  

zedster: FTA:The good news is that Gen Y members are perceived as tech savvy, and smart about ways to leverage social media

Social Media != tech savvy

The number of people my age I know who are inept when it comes to computers and tech is amazing. Oh! I might have to reboot my desktop after I've left a java filled website running for a week? What's that scarey looking black and white text screen?

The ability to upload a video to Facebook is nothing on the tech scale. Most people don't know the first thing about how their microwaves work let alone their computer. It like arguing that a good driver makes a good mechanic. I wonder how many can even create an Excel sheet with formulas?

I would like to see that revenue vs expenditures of social media vs print and TV ad campaigns. So your company created a meme, how many more bottle of Dos XX got sold?

//the term leverage needs to be binned from it's current usage
///going to leverage the cloud to increase synergy as a value proposition to achieve six sigma


As a member of this generation, I agree entirely with your statement that young people don't know jack shiat about tech. It's appalling how many of my cohort would find themselves completely stymied by a very basic tech problem.

I blame Apple.
 
2013-09-03 02:52:44 PM  

Rincewind53: As a member of this generation, I agree entirely with your statement that young people don't know jack shiat about tech. It's appalling how many of my cohort would find themselves completely stymied by a very basic tech problem.

I blame Apple.



As much as I hate Apple I think it boils down to that we stopped teaching basics. It seems like most Baby Boomers who have a four year degree had to learn fortran punch cards at some point and later word perfect macros. We assume our generation will learn tech through osmosis and failed to teach important skills in the information age like oh, critical thinking. So you have the tree octopus problem
 
2013-09-03 03:02:04 PM  

Rev.K: I'm 34 and I'm not a manager.

Where did I go wrong?


You were born with intelligence and a sense of empathy.
 
2013-09-03 03:08:03 PM  
Complaining about yuppies was more fun and made better movies.
 
2013-09-03 03:15:32 PM  

Intrepid00: Complaining about yuppies was more fun and made better movies.


Oh lord, if they make a mumble core version of Weekend at Bernie's I want off this planet
 
2013-09-03 03:26:17 PM  
What's Generation Y again? Is that me?
 
2013-09-03 03:49:43 PM  

DamnYankees: What's Generation Y again? Is that me?


It tells you in article.
 
2013-09-03 03:56:00 PM  

Intrepid00: DamnYankees: What's Generation Y again? Is that me?

It tells you in article.


I can't be bothered to read that. Laziness in clicking is a trait of whatever generation I'm a part of.
 
2013-09-03 04:05:41 PM  
Being good at a job no longer entitles you to good wages and a strong career. You have to be able and willing to aggressively pursue career changes and promotions if you want to make real money.

It sucks, but it's the way things are in a lot of places.
 
2013-09-03 04:08:06 PM  

LasersHurt: Being good at a job no longer entitles you to good wages and a strong career. You have to be able and willing to aggressively pursue career changes and promotions if you want to make real money.

It sucks, but it's the way things are in a lot of places.


It's the result of our move from a wage-based economy to an asset-based economy. Happened under Reagan and has never stopped, and its caused serious, serious issues.
 
2013-09-03 04:08:47 PM  

DamnYankees: Intrepid00: DamnYankees: What's Generation Y again? Is that me?

It tells you in article.

I can't be bothered to read that. Laziness in clicking is a trait of whatever generation I'm a part of.


That would be Gen X, we're lazy but apathetic.

Y is the one who feels self entitled despite their laziness
 
2013-09-03 04:09:16 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Meanwhile, 30 years ago


?
 
2013-09-03 04:09:19 PM  

DamnYankees: Intrepid00: DamnYankees: What's Generation Y again? Is that me?

It tells you in article.

I can't be bothered to read that. Laziness in clicking is a trait of whatever generation I'm a part of.


Generation Y-bother?

/we've been waiting for you
//or not
///whatever
 
2013-09-03 04:09:21 PM  
So wait, people who are managers by the time they hit their 20s and 30s tend to be selfish and concerned with individual promotion? youdontsay.jpg
 
2013-09-03 04:09:25 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Rev.K: I'm 34 and I'm not a manager.

Where did I go wrong?

Nearly 31, and never want to be a people manager.


yep, i never want to manage people or make decisions.  i love project management!  my group tends to just get re-orged instead of fired.
 
2013-09-03 04:10:17 PM  

zedster: FTA:The good news is that Gen Y members are perceived as tech savvy, and smart about ways to leverage social media

Social Media != tech savvy

The number of people my age I know who are inept when it comes to computers and tech is amazing. Oh! I might have to reboot my desktop after I've left a java filled website running for a week? What's that scarey looking black and white text screen?

The ability to upload a video to Facebook is nothing on the tech scale. Most people don't know the first thing about how their microwaves work let alone their computer. It like arguing that a good driver makes a good mechanic. I wonder how many can even create an Excel sheet with formulas?


It's a popular myth that young people alllll know about everything about computers. I blew some minds one day by pressing shift-ctrl-K in Firefox then clicking on the cube....

I left it like that for the kids to enjoy.
 
2013-09-03 04:10:40 PM  
What? People under 35 aren't the best managers? People older than that, maybe in their 40s and 50s are better managers in general? What the hell?
 
2013-09-03 04:10:53 PM  
"how corporate America really works" ?

Because fark y o u that's why.

Mystery explained, glad to help.
 
2013-09-03 04:11:19 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: zedster: FTA:The good news is that Gen Y members are perceived as tech savvy, and smart about ways to leverage social media

Social Media != tech savvy

The number of people my age I know who are inept when it comes to computers and tech is amazing. Oh! I might have to reboot my desktop after I've left a java filled website running for a week? What's that scarey looking black and white text screen?

The ability to upload a video to Facebook is nothing on the tech scale. Most people don't know the first thing about how their microwaves work let alone their computer. It like arguing that a good driver makes a good mechanic. I wonder how many can even create an Excel sheet with formulas?

It's a popular myth that young people alllll know about everything about computers. I blew some minds one day by pressing shift-ctrl-K in Firefox then clicking on the cube....

I left it like that for the kids to enjoy.


That's nothing compared to what your mom blew.
 
2013-09-03 04:12:16 PM  
Well, what happened?
 
2013-09-03 04:13:10 PM  
They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work.
 
2013-09-03 04:15:16 PM  
yay capitalism
 
2013-09-03 04:15:47 PM  
I've worked for both publicly traded and privately held corporations.

I'll stick with the privately held, they've treated me better, but better is a relative term.
 
2013-09-03 04:16:55 PM  
Anyone else pissed off by this?

"Gen Y bosses: entitled and out for themselves"
"...widely perceived as entitled"
"Entitled workers, those who feel they are owed things from their organization..."

And then this:
"A 2010 study by Paul Harvey, then an assistant professor of management at the University of New Hampshire, found that entitled employees are more likely to feel frustrated on the job and to lash out at colleagues."

I wonder if this 2010 study is using the same scientifically-derived definition of "entitled" as the rest of this journalistic masterpiece, or if an overly-broad term is being applied to many different phenomena?


/posted via my internet entitlement at work
 
2013-09-03 04:17:21 PM  

zedster: Rincewind53: As a member of this generation, I agree entirely with your statement that young people don't know jack shiat about tech. It's appalling how many of my cohort would find themselves completely stymied by a very basic tech problem.

I blame Apple.


As much as I hate Apple I think it boils down to that we stopped teaching basics. It seems like most Baby Boomers who have a four year degree had to learn fortran punch cards at some point and later word perfect macros. We assume our generation will learn tech through osmosis and failed to teach important skills in the information age like oh, critical thinking. So you have the tree octopus problem


I think mostly it's a fact that the user interface has become so friendly.  It used to take some critical thinking to use a computer and now you don't really need it.  Same for cars.  People knew how to fix cars more in the past because they broke down all the time.
 
2013-09-03 04:17:22 PM  
As someone who just got hired on as a program director, for a substantial pay increase, I laugh at your inability to synergize, an upscale, out of the box paradigm, with company cross pollination.

/Actually it's summer camp and retreat center which basically means I'm going to get paid to run around in the woods, play with boats, and hit kids in the face with dodgeballs!
//Life is good.
 
2013-09-03 04:17:39 PM  
Newsflash:  Young people make terrible managers because they lack experience.
 
2013-09-03 04:18:02 PM  
I cringe whenever someone uses the word synergy. I'm not cut out for management.
 
2013-09-03 04:21:27 PM  

zedster: FTA:The good news is that Gen Y members are perceived as tech savvy, and smart about ways to leverage social media

Social Media != tech savvy

The number of people my age I know who are inept when it comes to computers and tech is amazing. Oh! I might have to reboot my desktop after I've left a java filled website running for a week? What's that scarey looking black and white text screen?

The ability to upload a video to Facebook is nothing on the tech scale. Most people don't know the first thing about how their microwaves work let alone their computer. It like arguing that a good driver makes a good mechanic. I wonder how many can even create an Excel sheet with formulas?

I would like to see that revenue vs expenditures of social media vs print and TV ad campaigns. So your company created a meme, how many more bottle of Dos XX got sold?

//the term leverage needs to be binned from it's current usage
///going to leverage the cloud to increase synergy as a value proposition to achieve six sigma


Tech savvy != knowing the inner workings of a computer.

To navigate the world today, the vast majority of cases involving technology does not require knowing how to create formulas in Excel nor being able to unmount network drives in Powershell. The vast majority of use cases for today's use of tech is being able to communicate through various social platforms at once, targeting and adjusting your feed and updates to the liking of your audience.

While the analogy of driver vs mechanic is valid, what most tasks requires today (and in the past as well) are good drivers, not good mechanics.
 
2013-09-03 04:22:35 PM  
"Kids these days!" - Adults every generation
 
2013-09-03 04:22:50 PM  
So, basically, the 80s is back minus the goofy hair and shiatty music.

Wait.... Miley Cyrus....

So, basically, the 80s is back.

Russ1642: I cringe whenever someone uses the word synergy. I'm not cut out for management.


The talking for the sake of talking is what gets me. As a tech guy my bias is toward action, but if we're going to talk I want to at least talk in solid, meaningful ways using quantifying terms. This bullshiat where some people manage to employed solely for the sake of being employed drives me nuts.
 
2013-09-03 04:23:33 PM  
Most jobs just amount to theater performances. We have so much technology and so many resources, it's impossible to have real jobs for everyone anymore. Instead of choosing to build a leisure society in which everyone benefits from our technology, we've built a society in which most people are just there to transfer money between m/billionaires.
 
2013-09-03 04:24:15 PM  

12349876: I think mostly it's a fact that the user interface has become so friendly. It used to take some critical thinking to use a computer and now you don't really need it. Same for cars. People knew how to fix cars more in the past because they broke down all the time.


Advanced GUI's play some role but there is no excuse for not knowing the address bar from the search bar or the difference between HTTP and HTTPS by the time you enter the work force assuming you enter in an educated role.

3rd most searched term of all time on Google is Google because people don't understand how a search bar works
Google Trends Top 10 results
 
2013-09-03 04:24:42 PM  

skozlaw: So, basically, the 80s is back minus the goofy hair and shiatty music.

Wait.... Miley Cyrus....

So, basically, the 80s is back.


Wake me when the 90's are back when it was acceptable to dress like a hobo
 
2013-09-03 04:27:25 PM  

GhostfacedFiddlah: Anyone else pissed off by this?

"Gen Y bosses: entitled and out for themselves"
"...widely perceived as entitled"
"Entitled workers, those who feel they are owed things from their organization..."

And then this:
"A 2010 study by Paul Harvey, then an assistant professor of management at the University of New Hampshire, found that entitled employees are more likely to feel frustrated on the job and to lash out at colleagues."

I wonder if this 2010 study is using the same scientifically-derived definition of "entitled" as the rest of this journalistic masterpiece, or if an overly-broad term is being applied to many different phenomena?


/posted via my internet entitlement at work


No one else commented on the facile nature of asking a bunch of boomers their opinion about an age group?  Thanks for regurgitating peoples' biases as a "study" MSNBC, so that those same people can confirm their biases.  This is like asking Romney voters what Romney should've done different.
 
2013-09-03 04:27:53 PM  
Wait a minute, Gen Y managers are rated lower... by whom?  By other Gen Y-ers?  Or by crusty Boomers who suck at mananagement, but refuse to blame themselves?
 
2013-09-03 04:28:08 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Rev.K: I'm 34 and I'm not a manager.

Where did I go wrong?

Nearly 31, and never want to be a people manager.


One should not want to be a slave or a master.
 
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