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2013-09-03 05:17:54 PM
Maybe this is why Obama wants to keep all the NSA spying. He's planning on doing things that will piss everyone off and lead to more attacks.
 
2013-09-03 05:18:04 PM

jso2897: You know all this foolishness is very amusing - and Obama is a big boy, and can take can of himself - and if people want to say mean things about him, that's fine with me.
But people who are calling this crap "Obama's foreign policy" are either very, very young, or very stupid.
I'm 63 years old, and what we are seeing now is basically our foreign policy - the only one we've had as long as I've been alive.
Bluster about some shiat going on in some benighted shiathole. When some pretext occurs, bomb and invade said shiathole.
Then, keep troops and/or payoff money in place forever to keep perpetual powder keg from blowing. And just keep adding more and more to the list. Started with Truman and Korea, never stopped.
Maybe if y'all really, REALLY decide you don't like it, you could stop it - but the deluded self-image we took away from WWII still looms large in a lot of American minds.


The thing about your posts is that I'm never quite sure whether I completely agree with you, completely disagree, neither agree nor disagree, or both agree and disagree at the same time.  Mainly I'm left scratching my head and wondering.

That's really what I love about Fark: when I think someone MIGHT be wrong, but I'm not sure.
 
2013-09-03 05:20:50 PM

CrazyCracka420: Anyone ever wonder what an America boner might look like (it's really not, NSFW...but probably best if you didn't click at work):

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2013-09-03 05:24:51 PM
Must I do everything around here?

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2013-09-03 05:34:42 PM
Don't think of this as killing Muslims.  Think of it as Heavenly Virgin Speed Dating introductions.
 
2013-09-03 05:39:17 PM
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2013-09-03 05:40:31 PM

ManateeGag: Shostie: Will you f*cking stop it with this WWIII sh*t?

no, Obama's bombing someone, so it's WWIII and we're all going to be nuked!


I read that as '...and we're all going to get naked!' and thought "Well, that's one way to party."
 
2013-09-03 05:41:43 PM

cman: neversubmit: Kit Fister: cameroncrazy1984: Kit Fister: cameroncrazy1984: doubled99: Will you f*cking stop it with this WWIII sh*t


Why? getting nervous?

About what? What in history makes you believe that THIS time will be different?

Russia?

Okay, what about Russia? Why didn't WWIII start the last several times we invaded a country that Russia liked?

I'll let you know next time we invade a country where Russia is taking an active interest.

The last time we fought a country with active support from someone was Viet Nam, who was being supported by China, and you recall how that went.

From what I've read the US owners think we lost that war because the American people turned on the government...

...because it was an unjust war.

They always leave that part out


This is true. The Soviet-trained ex-pats who murdered all the non-Bolshevik anti-French leaders were definitely fighting an unjust war to turn a Buddhist-Catholic country of independent peasants and merchants into a copy of the Soviet Union.

The U.S. had its own interests at stake in that war (mainly global anti-Communism), but they largely aligned with the Vietnamese people's desires. Unfortunately, the South Vietnamese leadership were almost as bad for their constituents as the Viet Minh, and far less competent at organizing a military campaign.
 
2013-09-03 05:42:15 PM

WippitGuud: Doesn't the US periodically have live-fire exercises?


That's why I said rare and those live fire exercises are for artillery and similar types of weapons not big expensive weapons. I've shot literally dozens of exercise torpedoes down at AUTEC. I've never met anyone who had shot a warshot, even for testing purposes. Those types of weapons, while they do have a "Shelf-life", go back to the manufacturer to be refurbished and then put back into inventory. Technically we lease them until they are lost or expended.
 
2013-09-03 05:48:52 PM
Rand Paul and Kerry are going at it right now. Pretty damn entertaining and informative.
 
2013-09-03 05:57:01 PM

neversubmit: Hopefully Putin gets replaced soon.

Saudis Go on Full Alert after Putin Threatens to Hit S. Arab in Reprisal for US Attack on Syria

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Main Intelligence Directorate, or the GRU in Russian (for Glavnoye Razvedyvatelnoye Upravleniye) reported that President Putin's orders this week to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for a "massive military strike" against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria has "stunned" the Saudis forcing them to go on "full war alert"


Seriously? Look at the site you're referencing, and the fact that THEIR source is whatdoesitmean.com. Then visit that site. Tell me you're not serious.
 
2013-09-03 06:01:54 PM
Maybe, before we start firing hardware, we should try asking Assad to own up to what he did, apologize, and promise that he won't do it again.  And maybe ask him to negotiate with the non al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.

/not worse than any idea coming out of Washington just now
 
2013-09-03 06:04:40 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: Um...did you even bother to read the article...?

yes. Did you?

Boehner says he supports the President. Then it goes on to say how he is going to have to sell it to his fellow republicans who are against it. The reason I ask you if you read it is because you are under the misguided assumption that the GOP wants this war. Where did you get this information? Right now there are more GOP voices decrying military action then are cheer-leading the President.

Let me take a wild guess, you can see into their hearts and know they really really want to bomb Syria?


No, they really, really want to bomb Iran and get all that oil, but they will take Syria as an appetizer.  Of course they are opposing Obama, they can't just turn around and support him, their base's heads would explode.  Nope, you wait, they will eventually vote for the strike after enough time has passed and they can snake around to it without being called a RINO.
 
2013-09-03 06:31:45 PM
There has never been any real chance of congress not approving this. It would be an astonishing precedent to set, and almost no-one wants to actually go there. The attack is also fully in line with republican thinking that they just cant afford to not agree, they know a repub president would be doing the same but harder.

Some of the more hysterical Obama-haters will vote no out of bile, and many on the left will vote no out or conscience (many having voted yes to iraq out of pathetic fear of public backlash). a few on the libertardian right will vote no out of principle too.
 
2013-09-03 06:37:41 PM

nekom: BravadoGT: nekom: Does he have the votes?  It would make him look pretty stupid if he said that and didn't.  Not that he hasn't made an ass of himself before

He'll get them.  Or not.  It doesn't matter--at this point, it's more about Obama's ego now, so it's going to happen.

Well, if you say you're going to do something then don't you do tend to lose credibility.  I wish I understood enough about the situation to have an opinion, I have no idea who or what to root for here, a Syria where children are NOT being killed is probably too much to ask for just yet, sadly.


What credibility?
 
2013-09-03 06:40:12 PM

Weaver95: cman: nekom: BravadoGT: nekom: Does he have the votes?  It would make him look pretty stupid if he said that and didn't.  Not that he hasn't made an ass of himself before

He'll get them.  Or not.  It doesn't matter--at this point, it's more about Obama's ego now, so it's going to happen.

Well, if you say you're going to do something then don't you do tend to lose credibility.  I wish I understood enough about the situation to have an opinion, I have no idea who or what to root for here, a Syria where children are NOT being killed is probably too much to ask for just yet, sadly.

This

Pretty much we're farked no matter what we do on it

So our solution to ending senseless killing is to...kill a bunch of people at random and hope that the heartless sons of biatches who have no souls running the syrian government are what...Gonna suddenly start behaving themselves?

The only thing we can do is make things worse.


THIS !
 
2013-09-03 06:44:24 PM

Kittypie070: darth_badger: I for one welcome our New World Order corporate banker overlords.

Yeah.

Right.

They're gonna put themselves in high profile places in the so-called grand neo-feudal corporato-theocracy so we can finally target and shoot the arrogant futhermuckers and attempt to rid the planet of their verminous ilk. Business plan my ass.

They bleed red, just like you and I do. They are not gods on Earth.


But they're JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!
 
2013-09-03 06:45:25 PM

tirob: Maybe, before we start firing hardware, we should try asking Assad to own up to what he did, apologize, and promise that he won't do it again.  And maybe ask him to negotiate with the non al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.

/not worse than any idea coming out of Washington just now


If he denies that they used CW against the population despite evidence and disregards being told not to use CWs? Then what? What backs up your words if not action?
 
2013-09-03 06:53:32 PM
"Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?" said Arthur.
"None at all," said Mr. Prosser.
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2013-09-03 07:01:03 PM
Maybe he will be the last Pope.
 
2013-09-03 07:13:20 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: You know...if the GOP wants to kill people in the middle east then maybe we should air drop the first born of every member of congress into Syria with a full combat load out and let them sort it out for us.

Oh jeebus christ!!

Really?! You're putting this at the feet of the Republicans? The Democrat President says that he wants to do and that he's going to do it either way and somehow this is a Republican's war?!

The only way I would support this is if the President said he was going to do this either way, which I think he has. But I still believe that politics end at the water's edge. The President is going to do this. Either he can do this with Congress's blessing or without it. For the good of the nation I think we need to go to war with a whole and intact effort.


TFA talks about Boehner, a leader of the GOP. We've had a few hundred threads with people pissed off at Obama for it. I think Weaver's just pissed off at the GOP for  supporting it.

/Gods know I am
//I hoped that the GOP would be the voice of reason. We truly are living in the end times.
 
2013-09-03 07:13:41 PM

Neighborhood Watch: muck1969: Did you ever wonder why a former constitutional professor and former civil rights lawyer would defend NSA's domestic spying?  It's contradictory.


Did you ever wonder why 'a former constitutional professor and former civil rights lawyer' was never a professor of anything or never tried a case as a lawyer?  Did you ever wonder why 'a former constitutional professor' ignores congress at will, or somehow didn't know that obamacare was a tax?

Did you ever wonder why 'a former constitutional professor and former civil rights lawyer' has no record of being EITHER ONE, and his entire academic career has been wiped/scraped clean so that no one can see it?

Did you wonder why Princess Moochelle (before she was crowned Queen) got a $300,000 a year no-show job at a Chicago hospital system?


Did you ever wonder... about the world outside of your little bubble?


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2013-09-03 07:15:29 PM
Our military should attack and destroy their chemical plants that manufacture sarin, etc. And there are Arab nations that would participate with us. We need to keep a red line vs chemical uses, and to ensure they are not provided to enemies of US, such as Al Quaeda, etc.

WMD can NOT be tolerated. Period. No matter what happened elsewhere. There are constant terrorist threats vs.America.
 
2013-09-03 07:34:39 PM

Isitoveryet: umad: Linux_Yes: yea, after the smokescreen of 'yea we know for a fact sadam has WMD's'

We did know for a fact that he had them. We gave them to him. We're still talking about CW right? I get confused as to which wars they are considered WMDs for or not.

1988 Iraq may be slightly different than 2003 Iraq.

Hmmmm, i wonder why the U.S. would tolerate the use of CW in 1988?


When Saddam gassed the Kurds, I hadn't had a chance to vote in my first national election. Am I allowed to have different standards from the 'Boomers, or am I bound by their original determinations?
 
2013-09-03 07:36:44 PM

uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam


I still count 2 crappy wars, 1 completely unjustified on the GOP's side, vs 2 pretty much unavoidable wars, and 2 crappy wars, 1 mostly unjustifiable.... so... a tie? Win probably goes to the Dems anyway since their unjustifiable war didn't directly negatively impact their justifiable one?
 
2013-09-03 07:40:57 PM

vygramul: Isitoveryet: umad: Linux_Yes: yea, after the smokescreen of 'yea we know for a fact sadam has WMD's'

We did know for a fact that he had them. We gave them to him. We're still talking about CW right? I get confused as to which wars they are considered WMDs for or not.

1988 Iraq may be slightly different than 2003 Iraq.

Hmmmm, i wonder why the U.S. would tolerate the use of CW in 1988?

When Saddam gassed the Kurds, I hadn't had a chance to vote in my first national election. Am I allowed to have different standards from the 'Boomers, or am I bound by their original determinations?


you must like what i like.
 
2013-09-03 07:43:51 PM
So where's all the Regressives demanding to know "how you going to pay for this?"
 
2013-09-03 07:50:08 PM

Oerath: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam

I still count 2 crappy wars, 1 completely unjustified on the GOP's side, vs 2 pretty much unavoidable wars, and 2 crappy wars, 1 mostly unjustifiable.... so... a tie? Win probably goes to the Dems anyway since their unjustifiable war didn't directly negatively impact their justifiable one?


Just to be clear, I think getting involved in Syria is a farking stupid idea. We had a brief window where we might have doen some good by getting involved and now we have completely missed it and it will be a clusterfark. Maybe not WWIII, but definitely not good. I just thought this comparison of GOP wars to Dem wars was stupid. Especially given that the people are trying to say the GOP is better, when most of the listed Dem wars were wars I think we were right to get into.
 
2013-09-03 07:56:22 PM

Oerath: Especially given that the people are trying to say the GOP is better, when most of the listed Dem wars were wars I think we were right to get into.


55,000 dead americans in Vietnam and 33,686 american deaths in Korea would like a word with you and your justified bullshiat.
 
2013-09-03 08:16:21 PM
I pray to the gods we do not do this thing. Period.
 
2013-09-03 08:32:50 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Oerath: Especially given that the people are trying to say the GOP is better, when most of the listed Dem wars were wars I think we were right to get into.

55,000 dead americans in Vietnam and 33,686 american deaths in Korea would like a word with you and your justified bullshiat.


This. And the biggest problem with Viet Nam? The farking french got us into it.
 
2013-09-03 08:36:20 PM

Kit Fister: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Oerath: Especially given that the people are trying to say the GOP is better, when most of the listed Dem wars were wars I think we were right to get into.

55,000 dead americans in Vietnam and 33,686 american deaths in Korea would like a word with you and your justified bullshiat.

This. And the biggest problem with Viet Nam? The farking french got us into it.


JFK was without question the single most failed president this country has ever seen.
 
2013-09-03 08:43:42 PM

the money is in the banana stand: tirob: Maybe, before we start firing hardware, we should try asking Assad to own up to what he did, apologize, and promise that he won't do it again.  And maybe ask him to negotiate with the non al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.

/not worse than any idea coming out of Washington just now

If he denies that they used CW against the population despite evidence and disregards being told not to use CWs? Then what? What backs up your words if not action?


Nothing does.  My proposed demarche has to have a credible threat to use military force behind it.

And Assad probably will deny using chemical weapons, and he probably will claim a right to use them prospectively.  But if he does, and we wind up sending over some missiles anyway in response, we will at least have tried to solve this by peaceful means first.  And you never know, he might agree to it.
 
2013-09-03 08:50:13 PM

tirob: the money is in the banana stand: tirob: Maybe, before we start firing hardware, we should try asking Assad to own up to what he did, apologize, and promise that he won't do it again.  And maybe ask him to negotiate with the non al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.

/not worse than any idea coming out of Washington just now

If he denies that they used CW against the population despite evidence and disregards being told not to use CWs? Then what? What backs up your words if not action?

Nothing does.  My proposed demarche has to have a credible threat to use military force behind it.

And Assad probably will deny using chemical weapons, and he probably will claim a right to use them prospectively.  But if he does, and we wind up sending over some missiles anyway in response, we will at least have tried to solve this by peaceful means first.  And you never know, he might agree to it.


How about we let Russia deal with it in exchange for some favors, like sending back some Russian citizens we've grabbed from friendly countries and convicted of things like hacking?
 
2013-09-03 08:56:49 PM

Kit Fister: tirob: the money is in the banana stand: tirob: Maybe, before we start firing hardware, we should try asking Assad to own up to what he did, apologize, and promise that he won't do it again.  And maybe ask him to negotiate with the non al-Qaeda affiliated rebels.

/not worse than any idea coming out of Washington just now

If he denies that they used CW against the population despite evidence and disregards being told not to use CWs? Then what? What backs up your words if not action?

Nothing does.  My proposed demarche has to have a credible threat to use military force behind it.

And Assad probably will deny using chemical weapons, and he probably will claim a right to use them prospectively.  But if he does, and we wind up sending over some missiles anyway in response, we will at least have tried to solve this by peaceful means first.  And you never know, he might agree to it.

How about we let Russia deal with it in exchange for some favors, like sending back some Russian citizens we've grabbed from friendly countries and convicted of things like hacking?


I don't think that Moscow is going to be inclined to help us out here; they've got too much business at stake in Syria to be an honest broker.  Although as long as Obama is in St. Petersburg this week, I suppose it couldn't hurt to try to bring Syria up with Putin at the summit.  The worst that can happen is that Putin rebuffs him.
 
2013-09-03 09:14:25 PM

Sentient: I said this in the last Syria thread, but I'm so annoyed by this drumbeat of inevitability that I'm going to re-post.

Turn whatever evidence you have over to the UN and let China & Russia pretend it doesn't exist. That's it. Let history judge them.

Meanwhile, use all of our fancy stealth tech to carpet-bomb Syria, regime & rebel areas alike, with medical supplies & food. Make like Syria's borders don't even exist. If you really must blow something up, target aircraft or AA sites that threaten the food drops. Cap it off by throwing a few million at construction & services to the Syrian refugee camps.

Completely disregarding Syria's sovereignty make Assad look powerless, while any kind of military strike he survives will just make him look stronger.It's a clear answer, which should save face re: Obama's "red line", and such an approach should sail through congress. If the UN and Arab States want to biatch about 'unilateral action' or colonialism, let them; it'll come off as completely ridiculous. And hell, in the end, we might actually help a kid or two.

I'm tired of being the nation who responds to atrocities with destruction. If Syria wants to behave like a child, we should act like a parent. Why are we not at least considering some non-deadly response?


Beautiful idea. Very sentient of you :)
 
2013-09-03 09:50:17 PM

Klom Dark: Sentient: I said this in the last Syria thread, but I'm so annoyed by this drumbeat of inevitability that I'm going to re-post.

Turn whatever evidence you have over to the UN and let China & Russia pretend it doesn't exist. That's it. Let history judge them.

Meanwhile, use all of our fancy stealth tech to carpet-bomb Syria, regime & rebel areas alike, with medical supplies & food. Make like Syria's borders don't even exist. If you really must blow something up, target aircraft or AA sites that threaten the food drops. Cap it off by throwing a few million at construction & services to the Syrian refugee camps.

Completely disregarding Syria's sovereignty make Assad look powerless, while any kind of military strike he survives will just make him look stronger.It's a clear answer, which should save face re: Obama's "red line", and such an approach should sail through congress. If the UN and Arab States want to biatch about 'unilateral action' or colonialism, let them; it'll come off as completely ridiculous. And hell, in the end, we might actually help a kid or two.

I'm tired of being the nation who responds to atrocities with destruction. If Syria wants to behave like a child, we should act like a parent. Why are we not at least considering some non-deadly response?

Beautiful idea. Very sentient of you :)


The problem is that this wouldn't work and you know it. Sending aid and supplies to the refugees is great, and a project for thered cross. Want to get involved in that? Please do.

But medical supplies and money don't stop wars or change dictators' ways. And they sure don't stop the use of chemical weapons. What lesson does that teach? That they can get goodies after being vile? That the regime bent on destroying them is left to keep gassing and blowing them up while they get a little temporary comfort?

I'm sorry, but this is not a situation which can be helped with love and flowers and rainbows.

I advocate staying out of it because our country inevitably pays the price and forces our troops to abide by ROEs that don't let us actually finish the job. Add to that the fact that this is a real hardened army and we are talking a longer conflict than we would be willing to fight. Finally, we remove Assad and get out, what happens in our wake? Something like Libya? Lebenon? Egypt? How many have been killed after supposed "peaceful" overthrows?

If I thought there was a way we could just deal with chemical weapons cleanly and without opening up a whole new war, I'd say lets do it. But too many people arguing for us to just take out the weapons don't understand the nature of taking out said weapons: to do so safely would require either large groups of men on the ground to capture and safely dispose of the weapons, or the use of the type of ordnance which is neither precision nor clean that would burn it all off (thermobarics would be perfect) without scattering it around as conventional ordnance would.

Such ordnance would also impose a wide swath of destruction and kill lots of civilians around the sites: Assad has already moved weapons sites into civilian areas.

So what are we going to do? Risk killing civilians to take out those sites? How are we going to verify the sites contain said weapons? I doubt Assad will let us just walk in and check first.

I may not know all about the politics, but I know war. And if we go in, at the least we kill more civilians and do more to destabilize the whole fight than we would otherwise. From what I read in the news, Russia has promised to strike Saudi Arabia if we strike Syria, so presuming they go through with that, now we have the blood of an ally on our hands. And what about Iran? They launch an attack on Israel, its unlikely to be deathless on Israel's side and lots of casualties will happen on Iran's side. More blood.

I believe violence and war is justified in some cases. But right now, any "lesson" we can teach about the use of chemical weapons will be drowned out by our using a sledge hammer to pound in a finishing nail. Better that we use every diplomatic course and try to come off as wanting to see the conflict genuinely ended than being the bully who uses a pretense to go in and hammer someone we don't like.

I want us to sit this one out. I want to put troops in Turkey and other neighbors of Syria and protect refugees and get them clean water and food and shelter and medical care. I want to do everything to force Russia to drop Assad and get China to help us paint him into a corner smartly.

I don't want to blow shiat up unless we have no other choice, and so far all we've done is flap our gums and wave our arms without doing much at all to really make it unpalletable for them to keep up this shiat.

This is still my opinion only. No words or thoughts expressed here are intended to be on anyone else's behalf, and any mistakes of politics are my own based in what I know of the situation. I neither desire nor care enough to become a middle east expert just to argue on fark threads about when it is and isn't okay to invade a country and kill people with bombs and shiat. My bottom line: haven't hurt my people, I don't care about you or desire to kill you. Touch me and mine, I will turn you into ashes. Seems pretty damn fair to me.
 
2013-09-03 09:53:10 PM
As a Canadian, I hope Congress does go for it. 100,000 people have died so far, and Syria's leader is using chemical weapons on his population. Surgical strikes on military targets and maybe one on his house.
Put in a peace keeping force, start elections, etc.

"I'm tired of being the nation who responds to atrocities with destruction. If Syria wants to behave like a child, we should act like a parent. Why are we not at least considering some non-deadly response? "
These people are slaughtering each other. With guns. You can't go in there, wave the white flag, and send someone who is behaving badly to time out. I agree you don't want to bomb randomly. Go for weapons and fuel. And if they are really bad, things like electricity.
 
2013-09-03 09:56:55 PM

Don't Lag Me Bro: As a Canadian, I hope Congress does go for it. 100,000 people have died so far, and Syria's leader is using chemical weapons on his population. Surgical strikes on military targets and maybe one on his house.
Put in a peace keeping force, start elections, etc.

"I'm tired of being the nation who responds to atrocities with destruction. If Syria wants to behave like a child, we should act like a parent. Why are we not at least considering some non-deadly response? "
These people are slaughtering each other. With guns. You can't go in there, wave the white flag, and send someone who is behaving badly to time out. I agree you don't want to bomb randomly. Go for weapons and fuel. And if they are really bad, things like electricity.


So write your elected representative and suggest that he commit Canadian forces to this. We'll you guys handle it.
 
2013-09-03 09:57:34 PM
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2013-09-03 09:58:27 PM
www.innerhappiness.com
 
2013-09-03 09:58:55 PM
Oh man. These comments are getting old, and the war hasn't even started yet.
 
2013-09-03 10:07:33 PM

Kit Fister: I pray to the gods we do not do this thing. Period.


I share this prayer and believe it will go unanswered.
 
2013-09-03 10:10:55 PM
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Big Time
 
2013-09-03 10:12:52 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net image 400x265]

Big Time


STOP THESE FOOLS!
 
2013-09-03 10:16:39 PM

Don't Lag Me Bro: As a Canadian, I hope Congress does go for it. 100,000 people have died so far, and Syria's leader is using chemical weapons on his population. Surgical strikes on military targets and maybe one on his house.
Put in a peace keeping force, start elections, etc.

"I'm tired of being the nation who responds to atrocities with destruction. If Syria wants to behave like a child, we should act like a parent. Why are we not at least considering some non-deadly response? "
These people are slaughtering each other. With guns. You can't go in there, wave the white flag, and send someone who is behaving badly to time out. I agree you don't want to bomb randomly. Go for weapons and fuel. And if they are really bad, things like electricity.


Fine, you pay for your righteous indignation Candian fool. Otherwise, STFU.
 
2013-09-03 10:47:39 PM

vygramul: Kittypie070: darth_badger: I for one welcome our New World Order corporate banker overlords.

Yeah.

Right.

They're gonna put themselves in high profile places in the so-called grand neo-feudal corporato-theocracy so we can finally target and shoot the arrogant futhermuckers and attempt to rid the planet of their verminous ilk. Business plan my ass.

They bleed red, just like you and I do. They are not gods on Earth.

But they're JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!


That was a cryptic comment, vygramul.

Are you saying that we should "target and shoot " them, or that we shouldn't?


/clarification needed
 
2013-09-03 10:47:45 PM
Team America World Police was not a documentary. We can stay home this time, jerks.
 
2013-09-03 10:51:01 PM
WWIII? Oh come on. There is no way things could spin out of control in the middle east. Our modern day politicians are all reasonable level-headed folk, everything will turn out hunky-dory.
 
2013-09-03 10:59:23 PM
Forgive me, but I just returned from several days happily away from civilization, and a cursory search was unfruitful, so I'll ask here:

Has anyone even pretended to present any substantial evidence that AssadCo was the culprit here?

Obama? Kerry? McCain? Boehner?

Some foreign authority?

Anyone?
 
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