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2013-09-03 01:49:45 PM
I for one see no point in getting involved - we have enough problems at home we need to spend money on first before we throw it away on a country with no relation to us at all.

Here's the official whitehouse.gov petition against the war:  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/no-war-syria/QcTV4m0F
 
2013-09-03 01:49:48 PM
Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.
 
2013-09-03 01:50:49 PM

Heliovdrake: freak7: Heliovdrake: So, just to get it right here, you do or do not support bombing Syria?

100% in favor of.


Ok. Next.

What should be bombed, and to what degree?


chemical weapons caches (if we can identify)
Syrian military facilities (launch facilities)

that's it, remotely, and to the degree of total annihilation.

leave the infrastructure intact
notify the civilian populace (most are already fleeing) of our intentions

let Assad rebuild Syria, ,maybe he can purchase some arms from Russia and build a house out of them.

let the world know that the use of chemicals on civilian populations will not be tolerated.

at least this time we have proof of use.
 
2013-09-03 01:50:58 PM

mike_d85: George Babbitt: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

Who gets credit for the Cold War?

Republicans.  They worked it like a butter churn.

/McCarthey was a republican wasn't he?
//To the googles!


He was.
 
2013-09-03 01:51:05 PM

mike_d85: George Babbitt: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

Who gets credit for the Cold War?

Republicans.  They worked it like a butter churn.

/McCarthey was a republican wasn't he?
//To the googles!


So you're saying they killed Kennedy because he was going to end the Cold War? Cool.
 
2013-09-03 01:51:18 PM
Didn't he once said that he's against any kind of war what so ever and what not?
 
2013-09-03 01:51:39 PM
How is this our problem?
Yes, using poison gas is bad, but so is shelling an apartment building. Both sides are assholes, nether side will become a nice western democracy with walmart and reality tv so who cares. No matter what we do they are going to hate us do fark it lets just save the money and the cruse missiles.

/Mr. Obama we the American people respect the size of your penis, it is much bigger than Mr. Assad's. Please put it back in your pants and quit waving it around its frightening the children.
 
2013-09-03 01:51:55 PM

freak7: Kit Fister: What should be bombed, and to what degree?

I'd start with things like missile delivery systems, radar and communication stations. After that, we'll see if Assad chills. If he pulls any more shiat, go after every tank, plane, and military target you can find. Oh and his palace, level that too.


When do you ship out?
 
2013-09-03 01:52:28 PM

LasersHurt: darth_badger: I for one welcome our New World Order corporate banker overlords.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Full Retard has been engaged.


The USA funding Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood "protesters" is more retarded .
 
2013-09-03 01:52:31 PM

Andrew Wiggin: high as a giraffe's balls.


It's as clear as beer piss.
 
2013-09-03 01:53:09 PM

darth_badger: LasersHurt: darth_badger: I for one welcome our New World Order corporate banker overlords.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Full Retard has been engaged.

The USA funding Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood "protesters" is more retarded .


ooooooooookay
 
2013-09-03 01:53:33 PM
Cool, the one time the republicans and the democrats can come together is to get involved in yet another idiotic military operation
 
2013-09-03 01:53:47 PM

CynicalLA: When do you ship out?


My old ass has done my time. Honestly, I'd reenlist today if they'd have me, but I'm too old to go back in. Civilian life sucks a fat one compared to the excitement of being in the military.
 
2013-09-03 01:54:09 PM

darth_badger: I for one welcome our New World Order corporate banker overlords.



lol

ole' Boner is going to back Obama, whether he likes it or not.  the Pentagon, one of Boner's Owners, said so.

hey, i like that. Boner's Owners.   someone needs to compile a list of Boner's Owners.
 
2013-09-03 01:54:20 PM

Rapmaster2000: paygun: I'm sure the anti-war protests will start any minute now, right?

http://ktla.com/2013/08/31/anti-war-demostrators-protest-u-s-militar y- action-in-syria/

Yeah, some homolibs protested yesterday.  What a bunch of pussies.  I STAND bravely with our Commander-in-Chief in the face of terror.


At least a hundred, holy shiat.  Let's hope they can persuade the president not to kill brown people.
 
2013-09-03 01:54:53 PM

Barbecue Bob: George Babbitt: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

Who gets credit for the Cold War?

War on Drugs anyone?


War on Poverty?  Booyah, LBJ!!! Way to get us involved in two unwinnable wars.
 
2013-09-03 01:55:19 PM

George Babbitt: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

Who gets credit for the Cold War?


The real cause of most of those wars, and including the current conflicts in Syria et al are British, French, German, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Italian, and Dutch (did I miss any?) Imperialism. So the only REAL question we need to ask is, were the leaders during that time period republican or democrat?

Because that question is about as stupid as this ongoing discussion of which president was involved in which wars.
 
2013-09-03 01:55:24 PM

mediablitz: We've found the ONE THING Republicans will agree with Obama on. Killing...


Does that mean the republicans will get the Peace Prize, too?
 
2013-09-03 01:55:54 PM

freak7: CynicalLA: When do you ship out?

My old ass has done my time. Honestly, I'd reenlist today if they'd have me, but I'm too old to go back in. Civilian life sucks a fat one compared to the excitement of being in the military.


If you need excitement you should fark a bear, but don't advocate yet another futile war in the middle east.
 
2013-09-03 01:55:58 PM

Andrew Wiggin: Deep Contact: How'd you like the shrimp?


The ocean called, they're running out of shrimp
 
2013-09-03 01:55:59 PM

bbfreak: Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.


Yes, an unprovoked American attack on a Middle Eastern country predicated on WMDs: there's not a thread of similarity -- none at all.
 
2013-09-03 01:56:18 PM

mediablitz: We've found the ONE THING Republicans will agree with Obama on. Killing...



its good for business. as long as GOP mice/kids are not doing the dying.
 
2013-09-03 01:56:36 PM

jshine: bbfreak: Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.

Yes, an unprovoked American attack on a Middle Eastern country predicated on WMDs: there's not a thread of similarity -- none at all.


There isn't, when you stop ignoring all of the crucial details. But you knew that.
 
2013-09-03 01:57:29 PM

I_C_Weener: vygramul: BravadoGT: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

"Grenada?"  I've seen fights at football games that were longer and more bloody...

Odd - more American soldiers died in Grenada than in Yugoslavia. Yet you're not being defensive about Yugoslavia for some reason.

Yugoslavia gave us a great Gene Hackman/Owen Wilson teamup movie.


No love for Grenada?

I know Mario van Peebles is no Owen Wilson, but it did have Clint Eastwood.
 
2013-09-03 01:58:40 PM

LasersHurt: jshine: bbfreak: Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.

Yes, an unprovoked American attack on a Middle Eastern country predicated on WMDs: there's not a thread of similarity -- none at all.

There isn't, when you stop ignoring all of the crucial details. But you knew that.



The Iraq invasion began on a Wednesday.  Totally different situation.
 
2013-09-03 01:59:13 PM

soakitincider: obama is a piece of shiat


what insightful commentary. thank you for your well thought out argument.
 
2013-09-03 01:59:16 PM

obamadidcoke: freak7: CynicalLA: When do you ship out?

My old ass has done my time. Honestly, I'd reenlist today if they'd have me, but I'm too old to go back in. Civilian life sucks a fat one compared to the excitement of being in the military.

If you need excitement you should fark a bear, but don't advocate yet another futile war in the middle east.


Futile? It depends on the game plan. If all we do are some air campaigns and strategic strikes to remove Assad from power and cripple his military, that is one thing. If we go about it the Iraq way and occupy it with ground forces fighting a guerilla warfare against insurgents, that is another thing. The problem with Iraq is that we remained there after the dust settled. Let the Syrians figure shiat out once all they have left to fight each other with are sticks and stones.
 
2013-09-03 01:59:21 PM

vygramul: BravadoGT: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

"Grenada?"  I've seen fights at football games that were longer and more bloody...

Odd - more American soldiers died in Grenada than in Yugoslavia. Yet you're not being defensive about Yugoslavia for some reason.


We largely bombed Yugoslavia from the air.  LOTS of bodies in that one--just not Americans.
 
2013-09-03 01:59:48 PM
Russia saying they were going to lobby Congress against intervention probably pulled lot of Republicans' Cold War WHARGRRBL string.

They must be so confused right now, like an autistic kid with Wapner on two different channels.
 
2013-09-03 02:00:04 PM

obamadidcoke: war


Bombing some shiat to send a message isn't a "war". If Syria retaliates against targets in the USA or Israel, then you can call it a war, deal?
 
2013-09-03 02:00:22 PM

bbfreak: Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.


Yeah, helping out Al Qaeda linked rebels (by removing Saddam, thus giving them a place to go) was totally not what we did in Iraq.

I know, your team's guy is president now, so it is cool
 
2013-09-03 02:00:32 PM

paygun: Rapmaster2000: paygun: I'm sure the anti-war protests will start any minute now, right?

http://ktla.com/2013/08/31/anti-war-demostrators-protest-u-s-militar y- action-in-syria/

Yeah, some homolibs protested yesterday.  What a bunch of pussies.  I STAND bravely with our Commander-in-Chief in the face of terror.

At least a hundred, holy shiat.  Let's hope they can persuade the president not to kill brown people.


A bunch of Assad-lovers if you ask me.

The important point is, if you don't support the war, then you don't support the troops.  You are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  The troops need our support.  You need to support the troops.

You're not an Assad-lover, are you?
 
2013-09-03 02:00:53 PM

give me doughnuts: I_C_Weener: vygramul: BravadoGT: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

"Grenada?"  I've seen fights at football games that were longer and more bloody...

Odd - more American soldiers died in Grenada than in Yugoslavia. Yet you're not being defensive about Yugoslavia for some reason.

Yugoslavia gave us a great Gene Hackman/Owen Wilson teamup movie.

No love for Grenada?

I know Mario van Peebles is no Owen Wilson, but it did have Clint Eastwood.


Did we even get a made for television after school special out of Panama?
 
2013-09-03 02:00:55 PM
sadlyno.com

looking for the better forecast that includes the freezing aftermath but my google fu is weak.
 
2013-09-03 02:01:16 PM

soakitincider: obama is a piece of shiat



no he isn't.  he's caught between a rock and a hard place. the hard place being the GOP and the reality of syria gasing its citizens.  if Obama can do surgical strikes with no american boots on the ground, they i support it.  if not, then no.  but to do nothing sends the wrong message to the world's terrorist/idiots.  hey, i can spray sarin and no one is going to do anything.

if your boy bush was in there, you'd be waving your Flag and screaming about Freedom.
 
2013-09-03 02:01:28 PM

freak7: Bombing some shiat to send a message isn't a "war".


it isn't a war it's idiocy
 
2013-09-03 02:01:44 PM
Rush says, "Obama used the chemical gas in Syria!"

He is just asking questions. LOL

/sigh
 
2013-09-03 02:02:00 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-03 02:02:03 PM

LasersHurt: jshine: bbfreak: Dear everyone comparing Syria to Iraq. You people are idiots. Also, this thread went downhill fast with the derp.

Yes, an unprovoked American attack on a Middle Eastern country predicated on WMDs: there's not a thread of similarity -- none at all.

There isn't, when you stop ignoring all of the crucial details. But you knew that.


Similarity and equality are different concepts.  Of course if one looks closely enough at details, there will be differences.  Iraq is not Syria (they're spelled differently and have different borders), but that doesn't mean that the two situations share nothing in common.

In both cases, there's likely to be sectarian nastiness after we depose the dictator -- who, in both cases, is from a minority in the country in question (Alawite/Syria or Sunni/Iraq -- take your pick).  ...so we'll end up trading one murderous bastard for thousands of murderous bastards who'll go on yet another rampage of sectarian violence & ethnic cleansing.
 
2013-09-03 02:02:44 PM

freak7: obamadidcoke: war

Bombing some shiat to send a message isn't a "war". If Syria retaliates against targets in the USA or Israel, then you can call it a war, deal?


Bombing for peace is like posting on Fark looking for....oh.
 
2013-09-03 02:02:59 PM
Perhaps I'm politically naive but it seems out of character for Obama to push this issue, and I'm entertaining the possibility that it is a political ploy.  By giving the Republicans that impression that Syria is important they will be satisfied with him caving, instead of having to cave on a different subject such as appointments, ACA, budget, or immigration.  Something along the thought "Hey look guys, I gave you what you wanted on Syria, you can't say I'm not compromising.  Take this 'win' and move on."

I know politics is nothing like chess, and for some politicians "advanced strategy" is "put underwear on first".  But it cannot be too far fetched that someone in DC could have built this up and put it in play.
 
2013-09-03 02:02:59 PM
and for the record,

i am not advocating war, more like a skirmish.

nor am i advocating choosing a side in their civil war, i am a big fan of a peoples right to fight for their independence.

I am suggesting removing the ability to launch chemical weapons attacks on civilians, that's what raised the red flag, that's what i advocate remedying.

Fark Syria, Fark Assad, Fark Russia & Fark China.
 
2013-09-03 02:03:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: A bunch of Assad-lovers if you ask me.

The important point is, if you don't support the war, then you don't support the troops.  You are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  The troops need our support.  You need to support the troops.

You're not an Assad-lover, are you?


NO BLOOD FOR OIL!
 
2013-09-03 02:03:58 PM

Electrify: So since Republican House Speaker John Boehner is siding with Obama on this one, does this mean we can add him to the "list of people who are conspiring against the GOP and therefore America?"


I've already added him, but thanks!
 
2013-09-03 02:04:11 PM

JDAT: hammettman: .  We've been arming the "good" rebels

[www.needlol.com image 320x316]


I agree.  No matter which guys we armed, sooner or later it's going to turn out that we armed bad guys.  It seems to be the way of these things.
 
2013-09-03 02:04:11 PM

plcow: George Babbitt: cman: uber humper: In the last 100 years:

Republican President Wars:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
Grenada
Panama

Democrat President Wars:
WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Yugoslavia


FTFY

Who gets credit for the Cold War?

The real cause of most of those wars, and including the current conflicts in Syria et al are British, French, German, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Italian, and Dutch (did I miss any?) Imperialism. So the only REAL question we need to ask is, were the leaders during that time period republican or democrat?

Because that question is about as stupid as this ongoing discussion of which president was involved in which wars.


Fine, were they Loyalists, Tories, Socialists, Facists, Monarchists, Emperors, Labour, Communist, Social Democrats, Unionists, Statists, Peasants League....?
 
2013-09-03 02:05:16 PM
at least Obama is doing it the right way.  getting the CONgress to own up and do its job and make some decisions/ take some responsibility and follow the Constitution.  if uncle george was in there, he'd be busting missile caps on Syrian ass.  he wouldn't worry about any Constitution. why should he, he's from Texass.
 
2013-09-03 02:05:48 PM

Weaver95: You know...if the GOP wants to kill people in the middle east then maybe we should air drop the first born of every member of congress into Syria with a full combat load out and let them sort it out for us.


Add the cheerleaders from these threads and I'm in.

/can't believe I'm agreeing with you.
 
2013-09-03 02:06:12 PM

I_C_Weener: Bombing for peace is like posting on Fark looking for....oh.


Nobody said we're bombing for peace. We'd be bombing to send a very clear message that if you violate international law by using chemical weapons, you're gonna have a bad day. As for the civil war or whatever is going on in Syria, many of the rebel groups are as bad, if not worse, than Assad. I have no interest in supporting the rebels. This is a one and done deal as far as I'm concerned.
 
2013-09-03 02:06:21 PM

paygun: Rapmaster2000: A bunch of Assad-lovers if you ask me.

The important point is, if you don't support the war, then you don't support the troops.  You are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  The troops need our support.  You need to support the troops.

You're not an Assad-lover, are you?

NO BLOOD FOR OIL!


Assad gassed his OWN PEOPLE!  He is a friend of Iran, our nation's sworn enemy.  He is an Islamofascist coming to Islamofascisize us.

I stand with our COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF in the face of tyranny, while you coddle these criminals.

I'll pray for you.
 
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