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(New York Daily News)   Get named in 16 separate civil rights lawsuits and cost the city more than $300,000 in settlements? That's a firi-actually, on the NYPD, that's apparently a promotion and a $15,000 raise   (nydailynews.com) divider line 95
    More: Strange, Fritz Glemaud, N.Y.P.D., Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, civil rights lawsuits, John McCarthy, street crime, false arrest, sergeants  
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2013-09-03 12:10:04 PM
Sheriff Joe called, and told Fritz Glemaud that he's an amateur.
 
2013-09-03 12:13:47 PM
Eh, they probably did it to pad his pension benefits so he can take a 'disability retirement'.
 
2013-09-03 12:48:20 PM
Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.
 
2013-09-03 01:10:40 PM
When did Donald Faison become a NYPD cop?
 
2013-09-03 01:10:46 PM
I have to say I'm somewhat impressed the settled out a total of 16 lawsuits for $300k.
 
2013-09-03 01:37:02 PM
I really need a job like that.
 
2013-09-03 01:37:51 PM
If we fire him, we admit the courts are right and he's a racist. If we don't we can argue the courts are wrong, and he isn't a racist.
 
2013-09-03 01:38:45 PM

FrancoFile: Eh, they probably did it to pad his pension benefits so he can take a 'disability retirement'.


I think he's been promoted out of contact with the public.
 
2013-09-03 01:40:50 PM
I am just happy this has nothing to do with race.
 
2013-09-03 01:41:30 PM
Ahh the government. I'm surprised they didn't pin a medal onto his chest before they promoted him. Truly the Peter Principle come to life. Again.

At least lets HOPE he is now harmless. I wouldn't bet a nickle on it, but we can hope.
 
2013-09-03 01:41:41 PM
They pay a lot for cops in NYC.  Does the $115k include the graft and payouts from the crime lords or is that over and above the base
 
2013-09-03 01:42:30 PM
Disgusting.

Typical and expected.

And nonetheless disgusting.
 
2013-09-03 01:42:40 PM
$114k a year for a cop (plus another $37k in overtime)? But i thought all cops made peanuts and put their lives on the line every day for the thanks and gratitude of an adoring public...
 
2013-09-03 01:43:55 PM

Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.


Here's what I don't understand...  I can understand the "blue wall of silence."  I don't LIKE it or agree with it, but I can at least understand it.  What I *DON'T* understand is how they can continue to support and promote someone who is continuously making them look bad AND costing them hundreds of thousands of dollar.

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vudukungfu: If we fire him, we admit the courts are right and he's a racist. If we don't we can argue the courts are wrong, and he isn't a racist.


What does race have to do with this?  Couldn't be bothered to read the damn article, huh?
 
2013-09-03 01:48:18 PM
Me thinks there must be some reason why they are keeping this guy around....

/ bet he's the only black guy on the NYPD
 
2013-09-03 01:50:26 PM
Yippee ki-yay
 
2013-09-03 01:51:32 PM
Didn't realize Bad Lieutenant was actually an NYPD training film.

/Mets suck.

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2013-09-03 01:53:33 PM

Satanic_Hamster: What does race have to do with this?  Couldn't be bothered to read the damn article, huh?


NYPD, racism is a given.
 
2013-09-03 01:53:36 PM
I would vote for a cap in the head, but I'd prefer to see someone put an Air Nailer to his skull. That could be fun to watch.
 
2013-09-03 01:55:33 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.

Here's what I don't understand...  I can understand the "blue wall of silence."  I don't LIKE it or agree with it, but I can at least understand it.  What I *DON'T* understand is how they can continue to support and promote someone who is continuously making them look bad AND costing them hundreds of thousands of dollar.

I always wondered that too. The smart thing to do would have to "promoted" him to some file room or evidence room where he didn't have to be around people.
 
2013-09-03 01:56:10 PM

vudukungfu: If we fire him, we admit the courts are right and he's a racist. If we don't we can argue the courts are wrong, and he isn't a racist.


Um; the officer in question is black. Black people can't be racist. It's unpossible.
 
2013-09-03 01:56:54 PM

Gig103: Sheriff Joe called, and told Fritz Glemaud that he's an amateur.


Must irrationally hate someone!!!! Grrr!!! Strawman hate.
 
2013-09-03 01:58:20 PM

Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.


So union supporters and supporters of public jobs... isn't that you the last two years?
 
2013-09-03 01:58:21 PM
Promoted out of his incompetence.  S.S.D.D.

I wonder what the actual conviction rate is for his arrests?  It sounds like a majority are getting Null Proc's because of shoddy paperwork and corner cutting.
 
2013-09-03 01:58:58 PM

iheartscotch: Um; the officer in question is black. Black people can't be racist. It's unpossible.


exactly.
 
2013-09-03 01:59:09 PM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I would vote for a cap in the head, but I'd prefer to see someone put an Air Nailer to his skull. That could be fun to watch.


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2013-09-03 01:59:21 PM

ShawnDoc: When did Donald Faison become a NYPD cop?


Wow, that is a farly striking resemblance.
 
2013-09-03 02:02:53 PM

groppet: Satanic_Hamster: Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.

Here's what I don't understand...  I can understand the "blue wall of silence."  I don't LIKE it or agree with it, but I can at least understand it.  What I *DON'T* understand is how they can continue to support and promote someone who is continuously making them look bad AND costing them hundreds of thousands of dollar.

I always wondered that too. The smart thing to do would have to "promoted" him to some file room or evidence room where he didn't have to be around people.


I'm guessing there is some sort of union rule that prevents that.  Like he can only be moved within his department.
 
2013-09-03 02:03:10 PM
I swear, the NYPD exists solely to set the gold standard for police douchebaggery.

/likes cops...for the most part
 
2013-09-03 02:04:47 PM
I thought it was going to be about Tony Bologna.
 
2013-09-03 02:05:20 PM
Well, he DID score highest on the shoving the broom handle up the ass test.
 
2013-09-03 02:05:40 PM
I'm not saying this guy is or isn't guilty - but I feel like a lot of people are being awfully hypocritical...

On Fark, we seem to acknowledge that bad people exist - and some of them are cops.  We acknowledge that people can lie.  And, I thought, we subscribed to the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty.  Being 'named' in a lawsuit is *not* the same as being found guilty.

An individual cop has no control over the lawsuit.  Innocent or not, he doesn't get to decide if they fight the charges or not.  Cities routinely settle for small amounts of cash because it is cheaper than a lawsuit, even if the cop is proven innocent.  It's not an admission of guilt.

16 lawsuits....is that a lot?  I don't know.  What is the median number?  16 lawsuits over his entire career or 16 this year?  We don't know.
How many officers were named, per lawsuit?

It does say the city settled for 300k.

That's less than 20k per lawsuit.  Is that a lot?  It doesn't *sound* like a lot, but I don't know.  What is a typical amount?  Without it, it's really hard to form an opinion, isn't it.  I've worked customer facing jobs and I've seen customers who were flat-out LYING and/or WRONG but they'd complain.  Employees who were being professional and doing their job *STILL* received complaints.  If someone received a lot more than others, it might be a problem.  But without context hearing that my manager received two complaints about me while I went door-to-door selling crap, might mean I'm great at what I do, or it might mean I'm horrible.

It also mentions his overtime pay.

But it's largely without context.  I get it, a lot of us don't get overtime pay and we don't like it.  Yeah, but they do.  I've had jobs where I got over-time pay and my employer loved when I put in extra hours.  It wasn't free money they gave me, it was money I had to work for (I was a consultant, client got billed...more $$$ for the company).  People who worked a lot of overtime made the company more money and were certainly the times that got promoted.  If you weren't putting in OT you were basically locking yourself into your current position.  So, should we be outraged that a guy who works a lot also gets overtime?

You might think cops are overpaid.  You might think that they shouldn't get paid overtime.  I'd agree with you.  But that's a reflection on what the citizens of New York are willing to pay, how they vote, what laws they allow, and what standards they want from their cops....I'm not a citizen of New York and I don't much care....but if I were, I CERTAINLY wouldn't hold it against a cop for making what they make.  I might vote against it, or speak out against it, but who among us wouldn't want a higher paying job?  I'm a big fan of the free market, so I (and others) can always 'put our money where our mouth is' and go be a cop.  It's not quite that trivial, but it's an option for those who meet the requirements.

Anyway, people are challenging supporters of cops to defend this guy....I'm not a supporter of cops and I don't know if this guy is guilty or innocent - but I do know the article is presenting the information with a slant.
 
2013-09-03 02:08:42 PM
Clutch2013 I swear, the NYPD exists solely to set the gold standard for police douchebaggery. /likes cops...for the most part

Don't forget the Seattle PD, although they do have a better PR department.
 
2013-09-03 02:11:38 PM

Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.


"He's a loose cannon cop on the edge who doesn't play by the rules!"
 
2013-09-03 02:14:18 PM
So, I'm outraged about some accusations that I know nothing about?   This article has zero information to get all outragey about.  Maybe it's warranted, but this article certainly does not prove that.  Hell, I don't know what percentage of criminals file these suits to try to get lower sentences. It may be none, or 30%.  I don't know, and this article certainly doesn't shed any light on such matters.
 
2013-09-03 02:15:43 PM
Keeve
"He's a loose cannon cop on the edge who doesn't play by the rules!"

I bet he has one of those pussy bureaucratic captains, some older white guy with a pussy liberal attitude always complaining about things like civil rights and not allowing him to get anything done on the street. Always whining that the police chief is crawling up his ass about some bullshiat lawsuits.
 
2013-09-03 02:16:28 PM

ShawnDoc: When did Donald Faison become a NYPD cop?


He looks like the love child of Donald Faison and Sinbad. It might just be the goatee though.

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Also I'm surprised Chicago has made him an offer yet. An officer who can keep over a dozen settlements around 300K would be a huge boon to a department whose had over $100 million in settlements in the last 3-4 years.
 
2013-09-03 02:17:22 PM
That's not at all what I pictured a guy named Fritz Glemaud  would look like.
 
2013-09-03 02:17:22 PM
If I was him, I'd watch out for that blood spatter guy in forensics.
 
2013-09-03 02:20:59 PM

Weaver95: Here is is folks...all you authoritarians who think of this guy as a hero...step up and defend him and his actions. Here's your shot. Step up to the plate.


Actually, this is the part where you defend the pimps, hos', narco-terrorists, homegrown drug-dealin' bros', and assorted garden variety civil and criminal miscreant assholes.  Have it it.  Knock it out of the ballpark.
 
2013-09-03 02:21:50 PM

Dick Gozinya: $114k a year for a cop (plus another $37k in overtime)? But i thought all cops made peanuts and put their lives on the line every day for the thanks and gratitude of an adoring public...


I'm not agreeing or disagreeing but is his pay representative of cops all over, or is he an edge-case?

I'd suspect NY has a high cost of living and that pay in NYC, in general, is higher than most of the US.
I'd suspect that he is higher ranking that most cops in NYC too.

It would be factual to say that 'My Friend Jim, who works at Walmart earns 125k salary and 30k in bonuses' and that would be true
(http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Walmart-Store-Manager-Salaries-E715 _D_ KO8,21.htm)

But it wouldn't be representative of all Walmart workers.  That is a well paid Walmart Store Manager.

I don't know if this particular cop is better or worse paid that cops 'in general'.  But it's really hard to pull any sort of meaningful information from one data point.
 
2013-09-03 02:22:27 PM

CruJones: So, I'm outraged about some accusations that I know nothing about?   This article has zero information to get all outragey about.  Maybe it's warranted, but this article certainly does not prove that.  Hell, I don't know what percentage of criminals file these suits to try to get lower sentences. It may be none, or 30%.  I don't know, and this article certainly doesn't shed any light on such matters.


Sounds like you read a Daily News article.
 
2013-09-03 02:25:48 PM

Dick Gozinya: $114k a year for a cop (plus another $37k in overtime)? But i thought all cops made peanuts and put their lives on the line every day for the thanks and gratitude of an adoring public...


I live in an exclusive part of So. Cal. My house and the houses around me are worth $1M or more.

My next door neighbor is a sheriff. Hes got a 5th wheel, jet skis, and its always talking off on trips with his family. His wife does not work.

Crime pays.
 
2013-09-03 02:28:21 PM

lantawa: homegrown drug-dealin' bros'


You misspelled "small-business owning entrepreneurs". If it's homegrown, they're hurting nobody. What's your problem with a guy trying to earn an honest buck?
 
2013-09-03 02:30:41 PM

thurstonxhowell: lantawa: homegrown drug-dealin' bros'

You misspelled "small-business owning entrepreneurs". If it's homegrown, they're hurting nobody. What's your problem with a guy trying to earn an honest buck?


Well, that leaves the question; are they successful and attractive?
 
2013-09-03 02:30:45 PM

Nabb1: I have to say I'm somewhat impressed the settled out a total of 16 lawsuits for $300k.


$20 K per is on the high side for garden variety civil rights suits.  The eye-popping multi-million dollar verdicts usually need a special circumstance like video of the incident,  particularly egregious police condict and maybe, say, a white plaintiff
 
2013-09-03 02:36:17 PM
FTFA: Sgt. Fritz Glemaud of the scandal-scarred Brooklyn North Narcotics unit received the discretionary promotion to "sergeant supervisor detective squad" last week from Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly.

"Sergeant supervisor detective squad" Is that like a Lennie Briscoe level detective, or more like a Phil Cerreta?  Me, I'll take Nina Cassady.
 
2013-09-03 02:42:50 PM
He should be fired no if and or maybe
 
2013-09-03 02:43:40 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not saying this guy is or isn't guilty - but I feel like a lot of people are being awfully hypocritical...

On Fark, we seem to acknowledge that bad people exist - and some of them are cops.  We acknowledge that people can lie.  And, I thought, we subscribed to the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty.  Being 'named' in a lawsuit is *not* the same as being found guilty.

An individual cop has no control over the lawsuit.  Innocent or not, he doesn't get to decide if they fight the charges or not.  Cities routinely settle for small amounts of cash because it is cheaper than a lawsuit, even if the cop is proven innocent.  It's not an admission of guilt.

16 lawsuits....is that a lot?  I don't know.  What is the median number?  16 lawsuits over his entire career or 16 this year?  We don't know.
How many officers were named, per lawsuit?

It does say the city settled for 300k.

That's less than 20k per lawsuit.  Is that a lot?  It doesn't *sound* like a lot, but I don't know.  What is a typical amount?  Without it, it's really hard to form an opinion, isn't it.  I've worked customer facing jobs and I've seen customers who were flat-out LYING and/or WRONG but they'd complain.  Employees who were being professional and doing their job *STILL* received complaints.  If someone received a lot more than others, it might be a problem.  But without context hearing that my manager received two complaints about me while I went door-to-door selling crap, might mean I'm great at what I do, or it might mean I'm horrible.

It also mentions his overtime pay.

But it's largely without context.  I get it, a lot of us don't get overtime pay and we don't like it.  Yeah, but they do.  I've had jobs where I got over-time pay and my employer loved when I put in extra hours.  It wasn't free money they gave me, it was money I had to work for (I was a consultant, client got billed...more $$$ for the company).  People who worked a lot of overtime made the company more money and ...


I know you're not a Law-talking guy such as myself, but let's apply a little logic from your day to day life to the situation and see if we can come up with an answer:

How often has YOUR cash-strapped (they are ALWAYS Cash Strapped) Town/city/burg come up to YOU and said "Hey, here's $20,000 than we would like to give you even though you in no way deserve it"?

Never?  Huh.  So what are the odds that NYC is in the habit of cutting 5-figure checks to people when THEY don;t have to?   And before you say "cheaper than litigating a nuisance suit"  A) No it isn't.  NYC has lawyers on the payroll who are getting a check whether they take a case to court or settle it.   It ain't like it costs the city MORE to have a staff attorney go to court.   And if they NYPD WAS in the habit of settling meritless claims, how long would it be before word got out and they got buried under an avalanche of them?

Much more likely is that there are dozens upon dozens of suspects he's arrested who have been given the standard  deal prosecutors often (and IMHO corruptly) offer to folks who have been arrested and are claiming police misconduct.   If you persist with this claim we'll throw the book at you and hope something sticks, but if you sign a paper agreeing not to sue, we'll kindly drop all charges against you.  Check this guy's stats on arrests that didn't lead to indictment, nul pross, and stet docket cases coming out of his arrests
 
2013-09-03 02:48:10 PM

Enemabag Jones: Keeve
"He's a loose cannon cop on the edge who doesn't play by the rules!"

I bet he has one of those pussy bureaucratic captains, some older white guy with a pussy liberal attitude always complaining about things like civil rights and not allowing him to get anything done on the street. Always whining that the police chief is crawling up his ass about some bullshiat lawsuits.


And he is getting to old for this shiat!
 
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