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2013-09-03 01:39:02 PM
5 votes:

joeshill: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.


Mythbusters, whose motto is: We couldn't figure out how to do it, therefore it cannot be done.


For both of you:

imgs.xkcd.com
2013-09-03 01:32:47 PM
4 votes:
"I am in construction and sometimes things go wrong which nobody would have envisaged, and this is one of them."

I am more concerned about a talking building
2013-09-03 02:06:25 PM
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.

It's a horrible show, but it's fine entertainment for the tards. I don't give a shiat if you like it, just don't pretend it's anything but a couple goofballs breaking shiat in a warehouse


pichars.org
2013-09-03 02:00:57 PM
3 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.


static.someecards.com
2013-09-03 01:57:27 PM
3 votes:

MooseUpNorth: Arnprior Joe: "I am in construction and sometimes things go wrong which nobody would have envisaged, and this is one of them."

I'm sorry, but when another one of the same architect's buildings had the same problem (but with people, not cars), yes, someone certainly could have envisaged it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315978/Las-Vegas-hotel-deat h- ray-leaves-guests-severe-burns.html

Exactly. He built a high surface area concave wall of glass facing the sun. Duh. I'm not Mr. Engineering, but I saw the problem at first glance.


It's pretty obvious that the guy is building an international arsenal of death rays, and is actually pulling it off.  High-five worthy, at a minimum.
2013-09-03 01:43:55 PM
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: FarkinNortherner: Dick Gozinya: You mean the kings of junk science might have got something wrong? Say it aint so...

I honestly don't get the Mythbusters hate. Yes, they sometimes screw up but an army of nerds calls them on every failing and the revisits are not infrequent.

They're third rate special fx nerds who fancy themselves genius scientists/inventors.


Jealousy is a stinky cologne, my friend.
2013-09-03 01:35:22 PM
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.



Mythbusters, whose motto is: We couldn't figure out how to do it, therefore it cannot be done.
2013-09-03 01:32:38 PM
3 votes:
Sounds like the car owner got screwed....
2013-09-03 02:58:49 PM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: Can we please get back to posting pictures of the hot redheaded lady?


encoremag.com
2013-09-03 02:45:59 PM
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.


They "bust" their own ineptitude?  They disprove their own ineptitude?  Wouldn't that mean they're proving their competence?  Is that what you were trying so ineptly (and ironically) to say?
2013-09-03 02:13:54 PM
2 votes:

MooseUpNorth: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Lol, I literally said "I don't care if you like it" in the post you quoted, yet you used that pic anyway.

You've been throwing a thread-long tantrum and throwing insults left and right. Damned right, I used it. Chill the fark down, dude, you're going to pop a vein.


Calmer'n you are
2013-09-03 02:11:51 PM
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: PsyLord: China White Tea: Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.

[static.someecards.com image 420x294]

The graphic does get a chuckle from me every time I see it.  Look at the size of that huge cracker she's eating.

She's eating a sandwich.


Like she farking owns the place.

Biatch.
2013-09-03 02:10:51 PM
2 votes:
I don't understand that hate.  Mythbusters got both my niece and my nephew interested in science as teens.  Both are well on their way to earning their Masters (one in marine biology, the other in chemical engineering).  Sure, at the time they were just gawking at two guys blowing stuff up unnecessarily, but it sparked an interest that lead them to a pretty awesome real science.
2013-09-03 01:59:43 PM
2 votes:
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.
2013-09-03 01:58:22 PM
2 votes:
So we hate Mythbusters now? Didn't we used to love them when word got out that Adam reads Fark? I'm so confused! Tell me what to HATE!
2013-09-03 01:48:44 PM
2 votes:

tripleseven: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: FarkinNortherner: Dick Gozinya: You mean the kings of junk science might have got something wrong? Say it aint so...

I honestly don't get the Mythbusters hate. Yes, they sometimes screw up but an army of nerds calls them on every failing and the revisits are not infrequent.

They're third rate special fx nerds who fancy themselves genius scientists/inventors.

Jealousy is a stinky cologne, my friend.


So is Drakkar Noir
2013-09-03 01:45:22 PM
2 votes:
SERIOUSLY?  SERIOUSLY?  W. T. F. ???

This far in and no Kari Byron?  All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

xbradtc.files.wordpress.com
2013-09-03 01:30:49 PM
2 votes:
Nice angle, subby.
no too euclidean, either.
2013-09-03 01:12:15 PM
2 votes:

bongmiester: my UV filtering windows do the same thing to my neighbors siding

[www1.whdh.com image 600x338]


I bet they love you.
2013-09-03 10:59:33 AM
2 votes:
my UV filtering windows do the same thing to my neighbors siding

www1.whdh.com
2013-09-03 05:43:13 PM
1 votes:

JC22: Unless you were back there with Archimedes, you have no clue what type of mirrors or configuration he was doing. It's all guessing.


images4.wikia.nocookie.net
2013-09-03 04:31:08 PM
1 votes:
willfullyobscure:
State of the art of architecture and craftsmanship during Archimede's era

They were way ahead of London.

i.imgur.com
2013-09-03 04:25:44 PM
1 votes:
I'm convinced that everyone that now hates Mythbusters was on the wrong side of the "airplane on a conveyor belt" myth, and is still bitter over losing that battle...

/I've seen people nearly come to blows arguing over that one before!
2013-09-03 04:14:58 PM
1 votes:

Cyclometh: willfullyobscure: This world, son. You need to DISPROVE it, or your argument is made worthless by the exposition of your ignorance and faulty logic

So... you have a hypothesis, and I have to disprove it, or it is assumed to be true?

That's not how it works.

And frankly, if the best you've got is "Archimedes was smart and had lots of people to help him", you've got a long way to go to demonstrate any support for your idea.


The correct answer was, "There's a dragon in my garage."
2013-09-03 04:14:01 PM
1 votes:

Egoy3k: Way to shoot your whole argument in the foot by making yourself look like a complete ass.


Well, to be fair he didn't have much of an argument to begin with.
2013-09-03 04:04:44 PM
1 votes:
Mythbusters sucks.  Call me when they're willing submit their findings to peer reviewed journals for analysis like REAL scientists!
2013-09-03 04:02:15 PM
1 votes:
What is the scientific method?

Ask a Question

Do Background Research

Construct a Hypothesis

Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment

Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion

Communicate Your Results

Do they do this on Mythbusters? Yes, in its simplest form they absolutely do. Therefore, they are following the scientific process.

Now the real argument is "does the experimental procedure have sufficient rigor to provide constant value and reproducibility?" In some experiment the answer is yes, on others it is clearly no. It really depends on the complexity of the hypothesis they are testing.I would say they do some great pilot studies, but I wouldn't let them test pharmaceuticals.


The need for rigor and constant value change based on the risk.If I am studying if raccoons will change their home range based on the availability of food, I don't need a control to run an ANOVA. What would that look like, a population denied any food? Food availability is the test treament here.


If I am testing whether a man-made chemical can cure cancer without seriously harming or killing the patient, I better have enough rigor to assure that under reproduction, the results maintain a constant value. The reality is


/funny thing is, the attacks on Mythbusters are the same as scientists make on each other

//as a scientist, I hypothesize this give validity to the claim they are scientists

///Control Group slashies for scientific rigor
2013-09-03 03:44:01 PM
1 votes:

willfullyobscure: capt.hollister: viscountalpha: capt.hollister: Dick Gozinya: You mean the kings of junk science might have got something wrong? Say it aint so...


There are situations that are IMPOSSIBLE to replicate in a lab. Strange shiat happens and its the stuff of legends.

They are not, but even a genius like Archimedes could still only have used technology which existed in his day. There is no magic.

Things Archimedes invented or discovered during the bronze age:
Catapult
compound pulley system
screw pump
a planetarium
naval engineering
the basis of modern geometry, calculus and physics
pi

Things the Mythbusters have invented in the Modern Era:

State of the art of architecture and craftsmanship during Archimede's era
[www.mlahanas.de image 672x504]
 [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x625]

The Mythbusters qualifications as: master builders; master coppersmiths; military sappers:


Archimedes' Human Capital:

25,000 men under arms(conservatively- Syracuse had a population of 300,000 when it was beseiged, and Archimedes was captain of the defenses)

The Mythbusters Human Capital:

two pairs of tits, four helpless dorks, and people from the internet that want to be on TV

I'd say Archimedes was sliiiightly more able to build a death ray than the Walrus and the Crapenter were.


Are you retarded? Yeah, right, the manpower is just the few in front of the camera. They don't have an entire team that they've shown behind the scenes in multiple myths. Did you also know that Ty Pennington build every god damn house himself with only a single hammer and some nails that Sears donated?
2013-09-03 03:38:00 PM
1 votes:
I can't believe no one has posted the pick about the pull out method being busted.
2013-09-03 02:59:16 PM
1 votes:
Archimedes   Ra: 1, Mythbusters: 0

That works too.
2013-09-03 02:55:24 PM
1 votes:

Private_Citizen: I've heard some people claim that female orgasm is a myth. I would like to volunteer to work with Kari to prove its real. Don't worry, the science would be very rigorous, with multiple trials in all possible combinations.


after being associated with that show for so long, she is certainly used to disappointment and things that fizzle instead of boom
2013-09-03 02:55:22 PM
1 votes:

Private_Citizen: I've heard some people claim that female orgasm is a myth. I would like to volunteer to work with Kari to prove its real. Don't worry, the science would be very rigorous, with multiple trials in all possible combinations.


Sure, but properly double blinding, you don't get to have sex with anyone.
2013-09-03 02:52:57 PM
1 votes:
I've heard some people claim that female orgasm is a myth. I would like to volunteer to work with Kari to prove its real. Don't worry, the science would be very rigorous, with multiple trials in all possible combinations.
2013-09-03 02:49:57 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: Big Bang theory is very funny because they have great writers and an ensemble cast that "works". Your comment is like saying "Cheers" was funny because.. you know...  beer! I demand you retract your disparaging remark.


No, wouldn't it have been more like "Cheers wasn't funny because it glorified alcoholism and didn't accurately reflect what a real bar is like."
2013-09-03 02:47:54 PM
1 votes:

Aquapope: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.

They "bust" their own ineptitude?  They disprove their own ineptitude?  Wouldn't that mean they're proving their competence?  Is that what you were trying so ineptly (and ironically) to say?


I am not a very smart person
2013-09-03 02:36:51 PM
1 votes:
Maybe the ships were just hit with blinding light and the crew on deck was running around, in agony,  bumping into things and tended to knock over a torch near the tar storage. and the ship burns down that way instead of microwaving it.
2013-09-03 02:27:15 PM
1 votes:

Paris1127:  but known by many Londoners as the "Walkie Talkie" for its distinctive shape.

[www.skyscrapernews.com image 572x643]
This is supposed to look like a walkie-talkie? I think this skyscraper in Santiago is way more walkie-talkie-esque:
[www.celebratebig.com image 425x640]

/also: Archimedes sought to burn a fleet of Roman ships using the Sun. The skyscraper melted plastic in a stationary vehicle. Point: Mythbusters. Seriously, they've tested this myth like 3 times now... Even Obama couldn't get them to do it.



www.trademarkia.com
2013-09-03 02:20:38 PM
1 votes:

BafflerMeal: My favorite episodes:

1.  Did that car in that movie skip across water like a stone?  Let's not look at the film and ask everyone involved how they did it, let's just make stuff up and decide.

2.  There's this news story about a cop's gun that caught a bullet from another gun and is a matter of public record.  It's in the news so it must be fake.  Let's have a whole segment where we decide if the story and photos from the newspaper are a myth or not.

/the show would be much better if it was just a xkcd show of 'what ifs' and 'because we cans'.


Nah, you'd still hate it.
2013-09-03 02:20:30 PM
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: This is what happens when you let pretentious assholes design.  They're too busy inflating their ego to take into consideration practical aspects of their design.


www.ketchum.org
2013-09-03 02:19:02 PM
1 votes:

Dick Gozinya: You mean the kings of junk science might have got something wrong? Say it aint so...


Intelligent design is junk science. Myth Busters conducts real science with limited time and money. They can only do a limited number of attempts, they can't test every possibility, sometimes they get something wrong, but this is true of all science to varying degrees. It doesn't stop being science just because you think you're too cool for it.

/i2.kym-cdn.com
2013-09-03 02:15:21 PM
1 votes:

China White Tea: Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.

[static.someecards.com image 420x294]


I love that greeting card, except the kid's eating a piece of bread, not crackers.
2013-09-03 02:01:54 PM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.

Pedantically criticizing the title of the show is totally a real point and not at all you mindlessly sticking to a broken talking point in a blatant plea for attention.


It's a horrible show, but it's fine entertainment for the tards. I don't give a shiat if you like it, just don't pretend it's anything but a couple goofballs breaking shiat in a warehouse
2013-09-03 02:00:02 PM
1 votes:
Wait, i just googled creeping jesus and it means something else. Substitute it for holy fark or whatever.
2013-09-03 01:59:14 PM
1 votes:

Harry Freakstorm: "I am in construction and sometimes things go wrong which nobody would have envisaged, and this is one of them."

I am more concerned about a talking building


A talking building that sounds like it is working for the mob
2013-09-03 01:56:58 PM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: mjohnson71: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Have you seen an episode lately? They don't even bust "myths" anymore, just random potholes from shiatty 80's movies.


I don't think you understand the definition of "myth" and that may be your entire problem.
2013-09-03 01:51:19 PM
1 votes:

Highroller48: SERIOUSLY?  SERIOUSLY?  W. T. F. ???

This far in and no Kari Byron?  All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[xbradtc.files.wordpress.com image 723x1024]


She's kind of like the Tori Amos you'd like to hump, but without the annoying sense it reminded her of prior child abuse and that godawful warble.
2013-09-03 01:49:01 PM
1 votes:

Rising Ape: Kit Fister: joeshill: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.


Mythbusters, whose motto is: We couldn't figure out how to do it, therefore it cannot be done.

For both of you:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 599x524]

Feynman was in fact very aware of the importance of rigour, as you can see if you read his comments on psychologists' rat-running experiments. Bad experiments are worse than useless because they make you think you've discovered something when in fact you haven't. "Bookkeeping" indeed...


Do they teach "missing the point" in that ivory tower you spend so much time in, or do you just practice that on your own?
2013-09-03 01:48:53 PM
1 votes:
Paris1127:  /also: Archimedes sought to burn a fleet of Roman ships using the Sun. The skyscraper melted plastic in a stationary vehicle. Point: Mythbusters. Seriously, they've tested this myth like 3 times now... Even Obama couldn't get them to do it.

If you could not see faults with what they did, then you were not paying attention.
It is an amusing show to watch, but the number of times I have watched it and seen an obvious mistake is not funny.

The biggest problem with their death ray tests is the people they had aiming the mirrors, Archamedes would have had people with the profesionalism of soldiers, they used high school/university students doing it for a laugh. The capabilities of an ancient greek and the capabilites of a modern teenager are no where near the same. and in the areas that mattered for the myth, the greeks would have been ALLOT better due to the time they lived in.
2013-09-03 01:48:03 PM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.


I sure you have something she could bust

i.ebayimg.com
2013-09-03 01:47:28 PM
1 votes:

Kit Fister: China White Tea: Pretty sure the Mythbusters effort attempted to weaponize it in a mobile fashion.  It's not like this is a sudden revelation of the heretofore unknown concept of solar convergence.

This. I've seen a solar collector in a fixed position turn steel into a liquid in seconds. It can be done. But not quite so simply if you've got a bunch of dudes holding a bunch  of mirrors.


Especially if the best mirror technology you have is hammered bronze sheets polished to be shiny.
2013-09-03 01:46:20 PM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
They're third rate special fx nerds who fancy themselves genius scientists/inventors.

I haven't seen the show in a while but I don't remember them ever saying or implying that.


So I guess you could say that myth... has been busted?
2013-09-03 01:45:02 PM
1 votes:
The address is 20 Fenchurch Street? What's at 42?

Lots of Mythbusters hate and not enough Kari Byron pictures.
2013-09-03 01:44:27 PM
1 votes:
"Wait, what?"

4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-09-03 01:41:36 PM
1 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: It's more: "Two minutes of either Googling or doing some simple math would tell us this was pointless, but we'll do it anyway because it involves blowing something up."


And this is somehow a bad thing? Blowing shiat up is worth it for its own sake.
2013-09-03 01:36:46 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Paris1127: /also: Archimedes sought to burn a fleet of Roman ships using the Sun. The skyscraper melted plastic in a stationary vehicle. Point: Mythbusters. Seriously, they've tested this myth like 3 times now... Even Obama couldn't get them to do it.

With enough mirrors in the right configuration, you could do it.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x480]


Didn't I liberate this building for the NCR after the Brotherhood of Steel had been holding it?
2013-09-03 01:34:20 PM
1 votes:
Never go in against a Sicilian when a death-ray is on the line?
2013-09-03 01:33:52 PM
1 votes:
Great headline. Not sure about this whole 'REPEAT' thing, though.

Paris1127: This is supposed to look like a walkie-talkie?


Ever since 30 St. Mary Axe, which was rapidly gaining the moniker 'the dildo' until a bit of nimble PR coined 'the gherkin', new buildings in London seem to acquire vaguely descriptive, innocuous, nicknames before they're even out of the ground.

It's also a little stumpier than that rendering, in order (notionally) to reduce the visual impact on the nearby St. Paul's Cathedral.
2013-09-03 01:30:48 PM
1 votes:

Paris1127: /also: Archimedes sought to burn a fleet of Roman ships using the Sun. The skyscraper melted plastic in a stationary vehicle. Point: Mythbusters. Seriously, they've tested this myth like 3 times now... Even Obama couldn't get them to do it.


With enough mirrors in the right configuration, you could do it.

upload.wikimedia.org
2013-09-03 01:29:49 PM
1 votes:
The Mythbusters never "bust" anything but their own ineptitude.
 
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