AngryDragon: And this is why only trained, responsible law enforcement officers should be allowed to carry guns....wait...
JesseL: Sheriff's Deputy != Sheriff
mortimer_ford: Officers placed Long under arrest and searched his truck. They found two weapons and Long's badge and identification from the sheriff's department.The arresting officers have been placed on unpaid leave and will be dealt with appropriately.
Fart_Machine: JesseL: Sheriff's Deputy != SheriffI didn't shoot that guy.
paygun: Remember, when you put a uniform and a badge on a person they magically transform into something completely different than the average citizen who has no business owning a gun.
NutWrench: Reminds me of a Family Guy episode:Detective 1: "So, let me get this straight. Your defense is that you shot the sheriff but you did NOT shoot the deputy"Bob Marley: "Jah"Detective 1: "But you DID shoot the sheriff?"Bob Marley: "Jah"Detective 1: "And . . . you're admitting that."Bob Marley: "Jah"Detective 2: "We don't need to get him on the deputy. If we prove he killed the sheriff, that's a life sentence, right there."Detective 1: "Yeah, I'm not sure why he's defending himself on murder by confessing to a completely different murder."Detective 2: "I have this weird hunch he might be high."
Enemabag Jones: So this did happen around the bar, but not related to inside the bar. Further it was some sort of disagreement, three guys in one car, one in another. The lone guy pulls a gun and drives away. The three guys then flag down a cop. We don't know the mood of three guys at the time.Not that I disagree with treating a cop the way anyone else would be treated, but this might be a reasonable action. Let's not get (reasonable) cop hate in the way innocent until proven guilty.
Enemabag Jones: Pulling your gun and getting the f**k out of there may be considered a reasonable action. Seems to me one guy pulling gun and driving away against three in a personal dispute where he fears for his life might be reasonable.Unless you think he should have stood his ground and tried to arrest all three getting himself or others killed is a more reasonable action?
lack of warmth: mortimer_ford: Officers placed Long under arrest and searched his truck. They found two weapons and Long's badge and identification from the sheriff's department.The arresting officers have been placed on unpaid leave and will be dealt with appropriately.I have a feeling the sheriff wasn't in his county and the arresting officers are not part of his department. They just better stay out his county till he is removed from office. Messing with another gang's leader means the turf war is going to be tense for a while.
Enemabag Jones: As I understood the article, there was some sort of dispute on the road, two cars, one with the sheriff only, one with three men in it. Eventually someone pulled over and followed someone into the parking lot. I don't know what happened, maybe the cop was being the dick, but for all I know the three guys were being dicks and he was that short of having his ass kicked.Pulling your gun and getting the f**k out of there may be considered a reasonable action. Seems to me one guy pulling gun and driving away against three in a personal dispute where he fears for his life might be reasonable.Unless you think he should have stood his ground and tried to arrest all three getting himself or others killed is a more reasonable action?
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm sure he'll enjoy his 4 weeks of paid leave before he goes back on duty.
AngryDragon: FTA:"They find a .45-caliber Glock semiautomatic pistol that was fully loaded with a round in the chamber "OK, I know this guy was a class-A douchebag, but can we PLEASE stop doing this. As a rule, all firearms under the control of someone should be loaded with a round in the chamber. A firearm is nothing more than a paperweight otherwise. In fact it is impossible for a revolver to be fully loaded and NOT have a round in the chamber.I really despise "journalistic" fear tactics.
ISO15693: A few years ago, I walked up to the school behind my house to pick up my sister who was in some sort of girl scout meeting - I came to the building, and the doors were locked. I looked in through the window, and all the scouts were huddled on the opposite side of the building from me. I walked around to the other side, tried that door, and it was locked too. l looked through the window on that side and the scouts were now on the other side, opposite me again. I walked back around - and sure enough they all scrambled to the other side, trying to avoid me.While I was knocking, some guy came up with a gun, pointed at me, and he told me to lay on the ground. I told him to get lost. Then I found out that some teens had been harassing the scouts, and he thought that I was one of them. Someone had called him and told them they were being threatened. The guy kept yelling at me, and I kept telling him I was there to pick up my sister, and to stop waving his gun at me like an idiot.Finally the police came, and I told them about the angry gun guy. I filed a complaint, and they took him away for reckless endangerment or something like that (waving a gun around because he thought I was a threat)I think he had to spend a week in jail, and had his guns confiscated, or so I heard through the other scout parents later. I'm glad. We don't need armed angry misinformed citizens running around trying to be vigilantes. I'm glad he was punished and his guns rightfully confiscated. We -have- a police force. He could have killed someone (me) out of fear and mistaken identity.The children of the gun-nut were pretty badly teased though at later scout meetings, about their redneck gun-nut dad trying to act like a hero. Eventually the teasing got so bad that the family had to move to some rural flyover state where that sort of behavior was acceptable. I imagine them driving around with confederate flags, living in trailer parks and going to tea-party rallies now.
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