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2013-09-03 12:12:07 PM
Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?
 
2013-09-03 12:12:09 PM
The conservative movement against public schooling is geared solely toward two goals: 1) union busting and 2) funneling more public money to churches.
 
2013-09-03 12:12:23 PM
Yeah.... Private schools where Thomas Jefferson wasn't a President, Darwin died on The Beagle, and Jesus is the hall monitor.
 
2013-09-03 12:13:16 PM
Sometimes, the public school system just sucks.
 
2013-09-03 12:14:48 PM
I see some concern trolling about giving taxpayer money to Jesus Day Camps instead of poor public schools. Did I miss something?
 
2013-09-03 12:15:04 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


If only that was the actual question, and if only those were the only two answers. But, as someone noted before me, Republicans only have the ability to propose two answers, and they never allow the correct answer to be one of those two. If they let that happen, their party loses.
 
2013-09-03 12:18:39 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: I see some concern trolling about giving taxpayer money to Jesus Day Camps instead of poor public schools. Did I miss something?


Nope. That's sll I saw.

Know what I didn't see?

*control F for "injustice department"*

0 of 0.
 
2013-09-03 12:19:15 PM
Maybe someone can explain what "liberals" have to do with the Washington Post, because that one just had me scratching my head.
 
2013-09-03 12:19:48 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: I see some concern trolling about giving taxpayer money to Jesus Day Camps instead of poor public schools. Did I miss something?


Seems only fair that we should first spend our money on fixing public schools and spend a remainder on vouchers rather than on promoting and filling the alternative schools while neglecting the 1-in-10 poor black kids (and thousands of others) who aren't lucky or interested enough to get a voucher.
 
2013-09-03 12:20:50 PM

Wooly Bully: Maybe someone can explain what "liberals" have to do with the Washington Post, because that one just had me scratching my head.



News Flash:  It's a liberal publication
 
2013-09-03 12:21:10 PM

quatchi: Uranus Is Huge!: I see some concern trolling about giving taxpayer money to Jesus Day Camps instead of poor public schools. Did I miss something?

Nope. That's sll I saw.

Know what I didn't see?

*control F for "injustice department"*

0 of 0.


Are you implying a fark headline exaggerated, bogusly inferred or was inaccurate? Alert the internet authorities.
 
2013-09-03 12:21:43 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


There is no such thing as a "democrat party."
 
2013-09-03 12:23:36 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Wooly Bully: Maybe someone can explain what "liberals" have to do with the Washington Post, because that one just had me scratching my head.


News Flash: It's a liberal publication


I was hoping for an explanation, not a balls-out lie, Zimmermann troll.
 
2013-09-03 12:24:42 PM
Because liberals have never clashed with the law or fought against injustice.  Clearly.
 
2013-09-03 12:25:32 PM
Public schools can't compete with private schools. What about "justice" for the teacher's unions?
 
2013-09-03 12:26:02 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


The one that donates more money to the democrat party.
Sorry poor kids, we have the money for your education but your parents don't get to decide where to spend it for the best education for you.  That decision is made by a union that sees more value in protecting its members and itself with taxpayer dollars.
 
2013-09-03 12:26:20 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?  Do we end up sending everyone to private schools?  Do we get rid of public schools completely?
 
2013-09-03 12:26:31 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


Depends.  What's the democrat party?  I've heard of the Democratic Party, but never the democrat party.
 
2013-09-03 12:27:35 PM
Injustice indeed.

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out:

2. Dragons were totally real

3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."

4. Africa needs religion:

5. Slave masters were nice guys:

6. The KKK was A-OK:

7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound:

8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses:

9. The Red Scare isn't over yet:

10. Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson were a couple of hacks:

11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated:

12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists."

13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations."

14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture:
 
2013-09-03 12:28:31 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?


I don't know. Never heard of them.

Can you give me more information on this party? Is it a national platform? The only parties I am aware of are the Republican Party, Democratic Party, Green Party, Libertarian party, and the defunct Wigg party.
 
2013-09-03 12:29:28 PM

Cletus C.: Are you implying a fark headline exaggerated, bogusly inferred or was inaccurate? Alert the internet authorities.


I will most certainly do that.

But first to get over the disappointment of discovering a headline on Fark that was less than completely honest I think I will peruse a link I just noticed that promised a "smokin' hot" lady person.

That should no doubt cheer me up.
 
2013-09-03 12:29:58 PM

Blathering Idjut: Neighborhood Watch: Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

There is no such thing as a "democrat party."


It's a useful term - by using it, the speaker reveals themselves as someone whose opinions on matters political (including matters of policy like climate change, labor law, foreign relations...) are irrelevant.

And yes, I know that something like half to all Republicans in Congress use the term as well.
 
2013-09-03 12:30:31 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?  Do we end up sending everyone to private schools?  Do we get rid of public schools completely?


Give out vouchers, cut funding to public schools citing the fact that there are fewer students and the funding should go to pay for vouchers, close public schools, cut vouchers because they are socialism and the free market should take care of education children.

Profit.
 
2013-09-03 12:31:19 PM
Vouchers aren't the answer.

Fixing the goddamn public schools is.
 
2013-09-03 12:31:33 PM

Dr Dreidel: Blathering Idjut: Neighborhood Watch: Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

There is no such thing as a "democrat party."

It's a useful term - by using it, the speaker reveals themselves as someone whose opinions on matters political (including matters of policy like climate change, labor law, foreign relations...) are irrelevant.

And yes, I know that something like half to all Republicans in Congress use the term as well.


The only reason I can find for the existence of it, is that its proponents think that this really sticks it to the libs and is therefore worthwhile.

It doesn't.  It just makes you sound like a mouthbreather.
 
2013-09-03 12:32:37 PM

Blathering Idjut: There is no such thing as a "democrat party."



Oh yes there is...  (links to midlly NFSW images, as democrats are pictured in it)
 
2013-09-03 12:32:54 PM

wildcardjack: Yeah.... Private schools where Thomas Jefferson wasn't a President, Darwin died on The Beagle, and Jesus is the hall monitor.


If that was the argument presented, I would probably side with the Justice Dept on this one. According to TFA, though, they're going with some cockamamie segregation thing.
 
2013-09-03 12:33:08 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?


Union busting and ensuring our children be infromed.
 
2013-09-03 12:33:13 PM

Tyee: Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

The one that donates more money to the democrat party.
Sorry poor kids, we have the money for your education but your parents don't get to decide where to spend it for the best education for you.  That decision is made by a union that sees more value in protecting its members and itself with taxpayer dollars.


It figures you'd buddy up with the trolls.
 
2013-09-03 12:33:42 PM

Witty_Retort: The RIchest Man in Babylon: What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?

Union busting and ensuring our children be infromed.


But mostly profit.
 
2013-09-03 12:34:30 PM

Cletus C.: Sometimes, the public school system just sucks.


and taking money from them to pay for vouchers to subsidize for-profit private schools doesn't help the public schools at all.
 
2013-09-03 12:35:45 PM

meat0918: Witty_Retort: The RIchest Man in Babylon: What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?

Union busting and ensuring our children be infromed.

But mostly profit.


yeah they're given money by the people who profit from these schools.
but that's good.
teacher's unions supporting Democrats ,that's bad.
 
2013-09-03 12:36:24 PM

Rapmaster2000: Dr Dreidel: Blathering Idjut: Neighborhood Watch: Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

There is no such thing as a "democrat party."

It's a useful term - by using it, the speaker reveals themselves as someone whose opinions on matters political (including matters of policy like climate change, labor law, foreign relations...) are irrelevant.

And yes, I know that something like half to all Republicans in Congress use the term as well.

The only reason I can find for the existence of it, is that its proponents think that this really sticks it to the libs and is therefore worthwhile.

It doesn't.  It just makes you sound like a mouthbreather.


And yet, people keep objecting loudly to it, so apparently it does stick it to some of them.  I swear, it's like driving with a couple of petulant kids in the backseat.  "Democrat party!"  "Quit it! Daaaaad, Timmy said 'democrat party' again! Make him stop!"  Well, Tommy, if you want Timmy to stop doing that, why don't you stop acting like it bothers you so much?
 
2013-09-03 12:36:58 PM

Hobodeluxe: meat0918: Witty_Retort: The RIchest Man in Babylon: What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?

Union busting and ensuring our children be infromed.

But mostly profit.

yeah they're given money by the people who profit from these schools.
but that's good.
teacher's unions supporting Democrats ,that's bad.


Can I go now?
 
2013-09-03 12:36:59 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Wooly Bully: Maybe someone can explain what "liberals" have to do with the Washington Post, because that one just had me scratching my head.


News Flash:  It's a liberal publication


And what isn't a liberal publication that isn't owned by Rupert Murdoch in your opinion?

/oh help us, we're so oppressed by the liberal media! we have only the largest media mogol in the world to represent us!
 
2013-09-03 12:37:35 PM

Hobodeluxe: and taking money from them to pay for vouchers to subsidize for-profit private schools doesn't help the public schools at all.


It helps the kids, that is the point.
 
2013-09-03 12:37:36 PM

Rapmaster2000: The only reason I can find for the existence of it, is that its proponents think that this really sticks it to the libs and is therefore worthwhile


There was a curious case a few years ago where some GOPer (I think in a blue state?) said he "honestly didn't know" that the proper name is the Democratic Party. He'd grown up with mouthbreathers (I assume?), and at this point, I expect every partisan from a red state (including the dingii they send to Congress) honestly thinks it's called the democrat party.

I've gotten over it from Congress, but unless you're angling to piss the libs off, it really has no use on Fark.
 
2013-09-03 12:37:37 PM
Ah yes, the liberal media.
 
2013-09-03 12:37:45 PM
The problem with vouchers is that it tacitly agrees that it is OK for some schools stink.  Wnen the public officials in each state insure that ALL public schools in their state are good, then they can gripe.  Until then, they need to get off their butts and do the jobs they take public money for doing.  The teacher unions sometimes just fight for the teachers, but nobody is looking out for the students.  Not the Governor, Legislature, Mayors, local school boards, etc.
 
2013-09-03 12:39:00 PM

Tyee: Hobodeluxe: and taking money from them to pay for vouchers to subsidize for-profit private schools doesn't help the public schools at all.

It helps the kids, that is the point.


How does stealing money from childrens' education to funnel most kids (except for the ones who have rich parents) into inferior schools help kids?
 
2013-09-03 12:39:18 PM

Tyee: Hobodeluxe: and taking money from them to pay for vouchers to subsidize for-profit private schools doesn't help the public schools at all.

It helps the kids, that is the point.


It doesn't help the kids who are still stuck in the failing school.
 
2013-09-03 12:40:54 PM

Mr. Titanium: The problem with vouchers is that it tacitly agrees that it is OK for some schools stink.  Wnen the public officials in each state insure that ALL public schools in their state are good, then they can gripe.  Until then, they need to get off their butts and do the jobs they take public money for doing.  The teacher unions sometimes just fight for the teachers, but nobody is looking out for the students.  Not the Governor, Legislature, Mayors, local school boards, etc.


The teachers fight for the students. The teachers' unions are made up of teachers. Far from the scumbag right-wing lies about them, unionized teachers are the best advocates and the best defense students have available by a wide margin. Anyone trying to bust or denigrate teachers' unions wants schools to fail their students.
 
2013-09-03 12:42:14 PM

Wooly Bully: Neighborhood Watch: Wooly Bully: Maybe someone can explain what "liberals" have to do with the Washington Post, because that one just had me scratching my head.


News Flash: It's a liberal publication

I was hoping for an explanation, not a balls-out lie, Zimmermann troll.


So is that your shtick? You lie and troll? WP is a well know liberal newspaper.

Gotta give you credit though, you're trolling better in this thread than the Kerry one.
 
2013-09-03 12:42:24 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Ah yes, the liberal media.


If the media is so very liberal why does every newspaper in the country have a business section, but not a one of them has a labor section?
 
2013-09-03 12:43:19 PM

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Neighborhood Watch: Teachers unions vs poor black kids.

Guess which one the democrat party will defend?

What is the Republican end-game with vouchers?  Do we end up sending everyone to private schools?  Do we get rid of public schools completely?


Why does anyone care?  As long as the same amount of money is going into the system and kids are getting educated, why all the outrage?  Give poor parents a choice of where to send their kids.

I had the choice of private school or Detroit public schools.  My parents took an extra job to send me to private school because DPS was already a war zone.  If a voucher system had existed we could have gone to a private school without having absentee parents for 4 years.

I'm not seeing the problem.
 
2013-09-03 12:44:36 PM

Super Chronic: I swear, it's like driving with a couple of petulant kids in the backseat. "Democrat party!" "Quit it! Daaaaad, Timmy said 'democrat party' again! Make him stop!"


Right, because when someone points out that this is idiotic they somehow become responsible for the idiocy.
 
2013-09-03 12:47:31 PM

Mrbogey: Gotta give you credit though, you're trolling better in this thread than the Kerry one.


Well at least this time you aren't copying and pasting from NewsBusters.
 
2013-09-03 12:47:38 PM
http://theadvocate.com/home/4274144-125/report-la-teacher-unions-weak

Yes, those incredibly powerful Louisiana Teacher's Unions, contributing .18% of all donations to state elections!
 
2013-09-03 12:49:09 PM

Wooly Bully: Super Chronic: I swear, it's like driving with a couple of petulant kids in the backseat. "Democrat party!" "Quit it! Daaaaad, Timmy said 'democrat party' again! Make him stop!"

Right, because when someone points out that this is idiotic they somehow become responsible for the idiocy.


I agree that ideally, it should be ignored.
 
2013-09-03 12:49:45 PM

KyngNothing: http://theadvocate.com/home/4274144-125/report-la-teacher-unions-weak

Yes, those incredibly powerful Louisiana Teacher's Unions, contributing .18% of all donations to state elections!


Lying pieces of shiat need someone to blame. In spite of the fact that only 7% of the US workforce is organized and other countries with much higher penetration are doing better, right-wing trash like to blame every problem in the country on organized labor, because apparently freedom and self-determination are evil.
 
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