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(Telegraph)   Le Figaro reporter: What about the noodle incident? Bashar al-Assad: No one can prove I did that   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 17
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2013-09-03 08:11:16 AM
He hates Guns and Roses?
 
2013-09-03 08:18:55 AM
Calvin and hobbes
 
2013-09-03 08:50:34 AM
At this point I am starting to care even less if he did it.

Going after him in a major way will help nothing.
 
2013-09-03 08:52:50 AM

liam76: At this point I am starting to care even less if he did it.

Going after him in a major way will help nothing.


Has anyone suggested "going after [Assad] in a major way"?
 
2013-09-03 09:16:17 AM

LasersHurt: liam76: At this point I am starting to care even less if he did it.

Going after him in a major way will help nothing.

Has anyone suggested "going after [Assad] in a major way"?


McCain.

The exact scope of any retaliation by Obama is unclear, although he has claimed it will be "limited", there is no spelled out explicit limits.  And while I can appreciate not wanting to broadcast your limits to a guy like Assad, I also know airstrikes are like pringles to the US.

It was a mistake to call out a redline by Obama, even if that event is an actual redline for him.

I think it is a mistake, in general, to trust that the US knows for certain who launched the gas attacks.  If we do have solid evidence we shoudl release it and the striek should be very limited, but as I said above the US has a terrbile track record with that.
 
2013-09-03 09:27:30 AM

liam76: It was a mistake to call out a redline by Obama


I really hate this line of logic. It's a mistake to set a red line, because we'll all assume what the Red Line means and then judge you for it?

It couldn't be a more vague statement, but Obama's in trouble for not living up to what people assumed it meant.
 
2013-09-03 10:00:49 AM
TEMPORARY INSANITY!
 
2013-09-03 10:02:39 AM
yar!
 
2013-09-03 10:03:23 AM
www.headleytalks.com
 
2013-09-03 10:30:24 AM
I'd say the U.S. is between Iraq and a hard place.

/Senator McCain gave a pretty good interview on this clusterfark to NPR today.

/National Commie-Pinko Radio
 
2013-09-03 10:43:39 AM
No prob, just tape the report to the front end of a tomahawk.
 
2013-09-03 12:54:50 PM

LasersHurt: liam76: It was a mistake to call out a redline by Obama

I really hate this line of logic. It's a mistake to set a red line, because we'll all assume what the Red Line means and then judge you for it?

It couldn't be a more vague statement, but Obama's in trouble for not living up to what people assumed it meant.


So your defense is that "red line" doesn't mean anything?

Ok, I mean that is pretty stupid IMHO, but you are entitled to your opinion.
However if it didn't mean he was going to use military force if they crossed the "redline" why the fark is he making the case for it now?
Is Obama also mistake in what he meant by redline?

You know what line of logic I really hate?  People asking me a question, I answer it with a fair amount of detail, and they cherrypick one line with a dick in the toaster stupid complaint that boils down to Obama not understanding the meaning of his own words.
 
2013-09-03 03:53:55 PM

liam76: LasersHurt: liam76: It was a mistake to call out a redline by Obama

I really hate this line of logic. It's a mistake to set a red line, because we'll all assume what the Red Line means and then judge you for it?

It couldn't be a more vague statement, but Obama's in trouble for not living up to what people assumed it meant.

So your defense is that "red line" doesn't mean anything?

Ok, I mean that is pretty stupid IMHO, but you are entitled to your opinion.
However if it didn't mean he was going to use military force if they crossed the "redline" why the fark is he making the case for it now?
Is Obama also mistake in what he meant by redline?

You know what line of logic I really hate?  People asking me a question, I answer it with a fair amount of detail, and they cherrypick one line with a dick in the toaster stupid complaint that boils down to Obama not understanding the meaning of his own words.


I asked you a question. So sue me. I see the error of my ways.

Tell me, what did red line mean? You seem to think it meant something specific, despite nobody every defining it. You seem to think it's okay to assume that it meant something specific to fight against, but ridiculous to assume that it didn't. Pray tell, how is that not vapid and meaningless?
 
2013-09-03 05:46:44 PM

LasersHurt: I asked you a question. So sue me. I see the error of my ways


You did, and when I responded you decided to cherry pick one line, and come back with very stupid logic as to why you didn't liek that one bit of the answer and ignored everything else I said to adress your initial question.


LasersHurt: Tell me, what did red line mean?


Military action.

I was pretty clear about that above.

I understand you want to continue to play dumb about what he meant but a I spelled out above, that is a particularly stupid choice of action seeing as how Obama's actions back up that interpretation.


LasersHurt: You seem to think it's okay to assume that it meant something specific to fight against, but ridiculous to assume that it didn't. Pray tell, how is that not vapid and meaningless?


What has Obama been working on and calling for since the US said it was Assad?

So if Obama (who said it) is on board with it meaning a military strike, all the pundits are on board with what ti means, wouldn't that make the person what he meat is unknown the "vapid" one?

Your argument once again boils down to Obama not knowing what he meant.
 
Al!
2013-09-03 08:26:11 PM

LasersHurt: liam76: LasersHurt: liam76: It was a mistake to call out a redline by Obama

I really hate this line of logic. It's a mistake to set a red line, because we'll all assume what the Red Line means and then judge you for it?

It couldn't be a more vague statement, but Obama's in trouble for not living up to what people assumed it meant.

So your defense is that "red line" doesn't mean anything?

Ok, I mean that is pretty stupid IMHO, but you are entitled to your opinion.
However if it didn't mean he was going to use military force if they crossed the "redline" why the fark is he making the case for it now?
Is Obama also mistake in what he meant by redline?

You know what line of logic I really hate?  People asking me a question, I answer it with a fair amount of detail, and they cherrypick one line with a dick in the toaster stupid complaint that boils down to Obama not understanding the meaning of his own words.

I asked you a question. So sue me. I see the error of my ways.

Tell me, what did red line mean? You seem to think it meant something specific, despite nobody every defining it. You seem to think it's okay to assume that it meant something specific to fight against, but ridiculous to assume that it didn't. Pray tell, how is that not vapid and meaningless?


Obama, for one, seems to think the red line meant military action.  I would have to argue that, since he was the one who said those words, his definition of those words would be the most accurate and applicable.  He's also the President, and I have to believe that that would also lend credence to his definition of those words, regardless of whether he said them or not.
 
2013-09-04 07:11:38 AM

Al!: Obama, for one, seems to think the red line meant military action. I would have to argue that, since he was the one who said those words, his definition of those words would be the most accurate and applicable. He's also the President, and I have to believe that that would also lend credence to his definition of those words, regardless of whether he said them or not


You don't get it.

It doesn't matter if Obama knows it meant military action and is acting on that defintion.

It doesn't matter if the international community knows it meant military action.

It doesn't matter that everyoen with their head up their ass knows it meant military cation.

Nobody sat down and held LasersHurt's hand to explain what was meant by a not at all complicated figure of speech so everybody commenting on it is "vapid".
 
Al!
2013-09-04 07:16:48 PM

liam76: Al!: Obama, for one, seems to think the red line meant military action. I would have to argue that, since he was the one who said those words, his definition of those words would be the most accurate and applicable. He's also the President, and I have to believe that that would also lend credence to his definition of those words, regardless of whether he said them or not

You don't get it.

It doesn't matter if Obama knows it meant military action and is acting on that defintion.

It doesn't matter if the international community knows it meant military action.

It doesn't matter that everyoen with their head up their ass knows it meant military cation.

Nobody sat down and held LasersHurt's hand to explain what was meant by a not at all complicated figure of speech so everybody commenting on it is "vapid".


I used to be vapid.  When my wife left me, it took the wind right out of my sails.  These days I lead a much more vibrant life.  I have a girlfriend who treats me like a king and she is my queen.  I live every day as if my entire world may collapse with the next sunrise.

What that has to do with LasersHurt and his ignorance of commonly used abstract phrases is beyond me.  Of course, he also seems to be misunderstanding the word "vapid," although I guess it's entirely possible that he is instead using his own interpretation of the word.  Dang.  I though I felt liberated.  Imagine that feeling!  He doesn't need definitions!  A STOP sign could be interpreted as telling me the others will STOP, so I can just breeze on by!  No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service?  I didn't plan on attending mass anyway!  Think about what reading a book must feel like!  War and Peace a little dull?  Not if there are aliens with laser beams and a hero with a vorpal sword!  It doesn't matter what's in the book!  If your favorite read was always The Once and Future King, EVERY BOOK YOU READ CAN BE THAT BOOK!  I wish I could let myself go like that!  LasersHurt may be the most enlightened of us all!
 
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