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(Huffington Post)   Benedict Cumberbatch could be busy for the next few years; apparently, JJ Abrams may use him in Star Wars Episode VII, undoubtedly to ruin another iconic villain   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 217
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2013-09-02 02:59:47 PM  
Yeah, because everything George Lucas did after 1983 was perfect.

I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week. But apparently subby is one of the many amnesiac Star Wars fanboys who forgot about the prequels and special edition trilogy.
 
2013-09-02 03:01:48 PM  
Careful, JJ Abrams's mom has a lot of alts on Fark.
 
2013-09-02 03:02:43 PM  
He WOULD make a good Clone Emperor. >.>
 
2013-09-02 03:05:48 PM  

Captain Steroid: He WOULD make a good Clone Emperor. >.>


If he decided to follow the EU -- which I hope he doesn't. Anything Abrams does is going to over-write the shiatty stories of the EU.

Which I think is a good thing.
 
2013-09-02 03:06:28 PM  
I really should buy stock in Preparation H for threads like this. The butthurt is palpable.
 
2013-09-02 03:07:35 PM  

SilentStrider: I really should buy stock in Preparation H for threads like this. The butthurt is palpabletine.

 
2013-09-02 03:19:45 PM  
Paint him blue and make him a Chiss

Fark it, lets do this right
 
2013-09-02 03:54:40 PM  
Yes, feel the hate flow through you. Your journey to the dark side is nearly complete.
 
2013-09-02 04:00:29 PM  

Weatherkiss: I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week.


Seconded.
 
2013-09-02 04:12:23 PM  
He'll be playing R2D2.  Sadly, Disney will have to cut off his legs for the role, but I heard they will give them back once they've finished Episode 9.
 
2013-09-02 04:45:34 PM  
Darth Khan?
 
2013-09-02 04:47:49 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, because everything George Lucas did after 1983 was perfect.

I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week. But apparently subby is one of the many amnesiac Star Wars fanboys who forgot about the prequels and special edition trilogy.


The prequels were bad.  What JJ Abrams is doing with Star Trek isn't AS bad, but it isn't good.  His Star Wars isn't going to be good, but it will make money.

I still think Luc Besson would've been a better choice.
 
2013-09-02 04:54:45 PM  
Someone take away his damn passport already.

10 STAY IN UK
20 MAKE MORE "SHERLOCK" EPISODES
30 GOTO 10
 
2013-09-02 05:05:33 PM  

Klippoklondike: What JJ Abrams is doing with Star Trek isn't AS bad, but it isn't good


His Star Trek movies make shiattons of money, so pointing out that they're generic adventure movies that have no relationship to the themes and ideas which made Star Trek great means that you're just a butthurt fanboy.

Klippoklondike: I still think Luc Besson would've been a better choice.


I now want Jedi parkour. That would have been way more interesting than any of the action sequences in the prequel trilogy.
 
2013-09-02 05:10:31 PM  

t3knomanser: Klippoklondike: What JJ Abrams is doing with Star Trek isn't AS bad, but it isn't good

His Star Trek movies make shiattons of money, so pointing out that they're generic adventure movies that have no relationship to the themes and ideas which made Star Trek great means that you're just a butthurt fanboy.


No, it means I dislike bad movies

I also know it doesn't matter, because the fact is, and we both mentioned this already, is JJ Abrams movies make mad cash and that is all that matters in the end.
 
2013-09-02 05:17:11 PM  

Klippoklondike: No, it means I dislike bad movies


I think you misunderstood what he was saying.
 
2013-09-02 05:19:27 PM  

Klippoklondike: I still think Luc Besson would've been a better choice.


He already did Gay Star Wars.

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/multipass
 
2013-09-02 05:54:06 PM  
He was a great villain in Star Trek. My only real problem with ST:ID was that the whole movie was a series of "Hey you remember when Star Trek did X? So did we!"
 
2013-09-02 05:58:46 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, because everything George Lucas did after 1983 was perfect.

I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week. But apparently subby is one of the many amnesiac Star Wars fanboys who forgot about the prequels and special edition trilogy.




Hey, I like JJ Abrhams Trek and Lucas prequels, S.E.

Think the weakest part of Into Darkness was the script. The rehash of Wrath of Kahn was unneeded. I would have preferred a new story.
 
2013-09-02 06:01:46 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Think the weakest part of Into Darkness was the script.


Think about that sentence for a minute.
 
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2013-09-02 06:02:02 PM  
I like Cumberbatch, but Jar Jar Abrams will fark up the new movies.
 
2013-09-02 06:11:38 PM  

wee: Jar Jar Abrams will fark up the new movies.


What, you didn't like his E.T. remake a couple years ago?
 
2013-09-02 06:18:46 PM  
Whos'at? Some Dr. Who guy?

/can't be bothered to keep up with the nonsense my trendy friends are forcing themselves to be into these days.
 
2013-09-02 06:20:10 PM  
"Benedict will absolutely, positively NOT be playing as Admiral Thrawn. We're totally serious guys. His character will be called John Smith...who'll just happens to have blue skin, but WILL NOT be Thrawn. I really mean it, guys!" - JJ Abrams.
 
2013-09-02 06:21:39 PM  
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Wonder if we'll see him back as Boba
 
2013-09-02 06:26:18 PM  
I enjoyed the 2009 reboot; was not too fond of Into Darkness. But I think Cabbagepatch is a good actor so I'm pleased with his casting.
 
2013-09-02 06:31:48 PM  
I had more faith in Abrams helming Star Wars before I saw the latest Star Trek. It wasn't just embarrassingly derivative of Star Trek II, but was also a beat-for-beat rehash of Abrams' own Trek movie. I just hope we're not going to get another "best of the originals" clip show where we revisit Tatooine, chase through another asteroid belt, blow up another giant space base, and so on. Lucas already covered that with the prequels.
 
2013-09-02 06:31:58 PM  
I think The Agony Booth's review of Star Trek: Into Darkness sums up how I feel about Abrams:

(excerpt)
At this point, I am convinced that J.J. Abrams is the single greatest threat to good filmmaking today. The usual reaction to a statement like that is for people to rush and defend him by pointing out how "not bad" his handful of films are. The repeated use of the phrase "not bad" is really all I need to illustrate my point. Certainly, there are many who genuinely love the man's work, but the general consensus towards most of what he puts up tends to be "eh, it's okay". What's more, people tend to be surprisingly defensive about how "okay" his films are, and therein lies the hidden threat of J.J. Abrams. He's just good enough to attract brand loyalty, but not good enough to upset the balance. He's every investor's dream come true: a director competent enough to consistently make slick-looking, perfunctorily entertaining hits, but with none of that pesky artistic vision to get in the way of market-tested, focus group-approved moviemaking.

I could go on at length about Abrams' many shortcomings. The half-formed idea that is his beloved "mystery box" is always a favorite. But foremost in my mind is his gift for detail-oriented mimicry that is crippled by his surface level comprehension of what he mimics. In contrast, someone like Quentin Tarantino also enjoys paying to homage to old movies he likes, but he demonstrates an innate understanding of how and why those movies work, and mixes and matches them to create a style all his own. Abrams, meanwhile, can only recreate, adding nothing of substance to make the endeavor worthwhile. Super 8 was supposed to be his big career thesis statement, and the best he could come up with was a big budget E.T. fan film.
 
2013-09-02 06:33:37 PM  
I liked the new Star Wars movies. They were good. The first one was full of plot holes the size of a nebula, but still good. Sure I would have preferred a more cerebral Star Trek, more in the general spirit of TOS that I grew up with and love, but they were still good - the second one more than the first. Still quite palate cleansing after what's been done with Star Trek after TNG (Enterprise excepted). And I thoroughly enjoyed Cumberbatch as Khan.

That said, I think Star Wars is more suited towards JJ's talents. I liked that TOS and TNG often dealt with philosophical questions, heady themes and occasionally fairly hard scifi. It was often thinking man's scifi, a hopeful vision of humanity's future. Star Wars on the other hand is more swashbuckling adventure... Pulpy fun that doesn't need to make you need to strain your brain, but just take you on a joyride that's fun to watch. Both of those things can be enjoyable.

But JJ doesn't seem to film tight plots. He does fun, swashbuckling adventure just fine though - as evidenced in the new Star Trek movies. Lucas had efficiently destroyed any interest I may have had in any future Star Wars anything..... but JJ being at the helm changes the game for me. He's pretty much the only thing that could get me at all interested - whatsoever - in another Star Wars movie. I am confident he could do a competent job, which Lucas' future involvement would have prevented.
 
2013-09-02 06:38:03 PM  

havocmike: Whos'at? Some Dr. Who guy?

/can't be bothered to keep up with the nonsense my trendy friends are forcing themselves to be into these days.


He's some English guy I never heard of until Star Trek but apparently everyone else on the planet has loved him for years and he's awesome and he plays a convincing East Indian super villain.
 
2013-09-02 06:38:20 PM  
He's a good actor. I don't see a problem.

Then again, according to Trekkies, he committed the unforgivable sin of not being Ricardo Montalban, so everything is ruined forever.
 
2013-09-02 06:38:33 PM  
Wait, so Cumberbatch is going to play Jar Jar Binks?
 
2013-09-02 06:38:54 PM  

Mugato: Klippoklondike: I still think Luc Besson would've been a better choice.

He already did Gay Star Wars. the live action Heavy Metal.

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/multipass


FTFY

/But you're probably correct about the director.
 
2013-09-02 06:39:36 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, because everything George Lucas did after 1983 was perfect.

I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week. But apparently subby is one of the many amnesiac Star Wars fanboys who forgot about the prequels and special edition trilogy.


I bet you'd also take him up your butt too. That doesn't mean it's going to happen so settle down.
 
2013-09-02 06:42:24 PM  
Cumberbatch as Thrawn would be awesome.
 
2013-09-02 06:42:29 PM  
C3PO. A psychotic, violent 3PO.
 
2013-09-02 06:42:45 PM  
I've enjoyed the Star Trek Movies. It's just a fun adventure thing. Just like the original series, it's mindless entertainment. There was never any depth to Star Trek, or Star Wars. It's not like any of it is anywhere near the level of Philip K Dick or Robert A Heinlein. Abrams has done really well, carrying on the tradition of Star Trek, providing some fun entertainment that doesn't give anybody anything to think about. Plus, you gotta give the man props for bringing back the classic female Federation uniform.
 
2013-09-02 06:45:42 PM  

Mugato: havocmike: Whos'at? Some Dr. Who guy?

/can't be bothered to keep up with the nonsense my trendy friends are forcing themselves to be into these days.

He's some English guy I never heard of until Star Trek but apparently everyone else on the planet has loved him for years and he's awesome and he plays a convincing East Indian super villain.


I never got this argument. Star Trek takes place 400 years in the future. So, East Indians were to be expected to maintain racial purity for 400 years?
 
2013-09-02 06:45:57 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: "Benedict will absolutely, positively NOT be playing as Admiral Thrawn. We're totally serious guys. His character will be called John Smith...who'll just happens to have blue skin, but WILL NOT be Thrawn. I really mean it, guys!" - JJ Abrams.


That would actually be about perfect. Now who's playing Mara Jade?
 
2013-09-02 06:47:09 PM  
Cumberbatch is decent actor.  Into Darkness I think displayed at JJ's limitations.  He tried to pull off homage scenes but they came across as hamfisted.  The last quarter or so of the movie just fell apart as logic was blatantly disregarded.  I'm looking at you frozen supermen who could supply the magic elixir of life that Kirk needed instead of having to chase after Khan for it!!!
 
2013-09-02 06:47:44 PM  
He could have the role of second rock from tree for all I care.  I'll still watch it.

/and Sherlock
 
2013-09-02 06:48:15 PM  
Shia LaBeouf is available.
 
2013-09-02 06:48:41 PM  
The only reason Into Darkness was bad wasn't because it was Khan, but because it wasn't a reboot of Space Seed.

Whether or not you even SAW Space Seed, or knew it existed, Wrath of Khan had a weight to it because they explained and had justifiable reason for him to HAVE "wrath"

It was, what, 20 years in the making?

Into Darkness simply rushed it!

/and for the record, every "star" was mentioned or "courted" for the Prequels, there was no one else in Hollywood that wasn't attached at some point, including N*Sync!!  I hate these kind of "announcements"
 
2013-09-02 06:50:12 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: Someone take away his damn passport already.

10 STAY IN UK
20 MAKE MORE "SHERLOCK" EPISODES
30 GOTO 10


RUN
 
2013-09-02 06:50:19 PM  

havocmike: Whos'at? Some Dr. Who guy?

/can't be bothered to keep up with the nonsense my trendy friends are forcing themselves to be into these days.


s14.postimg.org

Well, that is quite a story.
 
2013-09-02 06:51:06 PM  

uncleacid: Shia LaBeouf is available.


So is Ben Affleck.
 
2013-09-02 06:52:11 PM  

stoli n coke: I never got this argument. Star Trek takes place 400 years in the future. So, East Indians were to be expected to maintain racial purity for 400 years?


Actually he and his crew were frozen and shot into space in the 1990s.
 
2013-09-02 06:53:18 PM  

kronicfeld: Careful, JJ Abrams's mom has a lot of alts on Fark.


Apparently his mom has no influence on his craptastic use of lens flares then since Fark went all apeshiat over the Star Trek (2009) reboot.  Anyway, after watching Star Trek ID, nope, not going to waste another cent on his films.
 
2013-09-02 06:56:52 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Weatherkiss: I'd take JJ Abrams and his lens flares over Jar-Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen any day of the farking week.

Seconded.


Well, he gave us lens flares and this:

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The love child of Jar Jar and an ewok.
 
2013-09-02 06:57:27 PM  

stoli n coke: I never got this argument. Star Trek takes place 400 years in the future. So, East Indians were to be expected to maintain racial purity for 400 years?


I don't think in 400 years Indians will stop looking like Indians but regardless Khan isn't from 400 years in the future.  According to TOS he is actually from the 20th century.  It is a rebooted timeline so how that works out now may be up for speculation and all that but if we are going to move the timeline forward to accommodate him he probably would still look like an Indian today.

Cumberbatch is a decent enough actor but I have to say they could have found someone whose physical characteristics more closely aligned with Khan's heritage.
 
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