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(Think Progress)   Remember how Fox News was claiming that Al Jazeera would be used to spread Islamic Propaganda in the US? It looks like Fox News decided to get the jump on them   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 186
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2013-09-02 05:49:50 PM  

Heliovdrake: Well see the thing is you are a troll, the first place I spotted you was in the geek tab, I had posted about a touch screen tablet with a keyboard dock, with a linked video, you then insisted it was shiat and in fact didn't have a touch screen and could not be undocked from the keyboard, after that everyone in the thread pretty much considered you a moron if they felt pity for you, or a troll otherwise.


First farkied him due to racist trolling in Zimmerman threads.  Good to know he gets around.  What a sad and pathetic life to go around trolling all the tabs.

Though, I'm not sure what's more pathetic.  That he might be a mod doing this for page views, or this is actually just a random person doing this on their own time.
 
2013-09-02 05:51:50 PM  

Heliovdrake: freak7: Satanic_Hamster: Is your life really so empty and pathetic that you spend a holiday trolling on the internet?

It's hilarious, and a little sad, that you think that's a troll.  Talk about not being able to see the big picture.


Well see the thing is you are a troll, the first place I spotted you was in the geek tab, I had posted about a touch screen tablet with a keyboard dock, with a linked video, you then insisted it was shiat and in fact didn't have a touch screen and could not be undocked from the keyboard, after that everyone in the thread pretty much considered you a moron if they felt pity for you, or a troll otherwise.



Almost forgot,
Here's the thread where I first leaned you were unable comprehend reality as it is.
http://www.fark.com/comments/7913796/Sales-of-Microsofts-Surface-Pro- t ablet-are-so-strong-company-has-decided-to-extend-its-special-August-o nly-sale-price-until-forever?cpp=1
 
2013-09-02 05:54:17 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Heliovdrake: Well see the thing is you are a troll, the first place I spotted you was in the geek tab, I had posted about a touch screen tablet with a keyboard dock, with a linked video, you then insisted it was shiat and in fact didn't have a touch screen and could not be undocked from the keyboard, after that everyone in the thread pretty much considered you a moron if they felt pity for you, or a troll otherwise.

First farkied him due to racist trolling in Zimmerman threads.  Good to know he gets around.  What a sad and pathetic life to go around trolling all the tabs.

Though, I'm not sure what's more pathetic.  That he might be a mod doing this for page views, or this is actually just a random person doing this on their own time.


  we got a lot of new trolls right around the Zimmerman trial I think.
 
2013-09-02 05:56:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Heliovdrake: Well see the thing is you are a troll, the first place I spotted you was in the geek tab, I had posted about a touch screen tablet with a keyboard dock, with a linked video, you then insisted it was shiat and in fact didn't have a touch screen and could not be undocked from the keyboard, after that everyone in the thread pretty much considered you a moron if they felt pity for you, or a troll otherwise.

First farkied him due to racist trolling in Zimmerman threads.  Good to know he gets around.  What a sad and pathetic life to go around trolling all the tabs.

Though, I'm not sure what's more pathetic.  That he might be a mod doing this for page views, or this is actually just a random person doing this on their own time.


And on a holiday, no less.  In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.
 
2013-09-02 06:02:17 PM  

BMulligan: simplicimus: BMulligan: simplicimus: And if you read the Constitution, having a standing peacetime army is unconstitutional, as is the existence Air Force.

Nonsense. To say that something is unmentioned in the Constitution is not at all the same thing as saying something violates the Constitution.

The peacetime army stuff is unconstitutional.

"To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

Point out the part there that makes maintaining a standing army unconstitutional.


The difference is between Provide and maintain a Navy, vs. the rules attached to having an army.
 
2013-09-02 06:06:57 PM  

LordJiro: Again, you idiots biatched yourselves inside-out when Obama DIDN'T ask Congress in Libya. And you'd be doing the same if he didn't now.


They hate the person and everything that he does. If god himself appeared and stated that Obama was the second coming, they would hate god and obama even more.

These are also the same people who stated that we should stand behind the president during time of war.
That not doing so put our soldiers overseas at deadly risk. that it gave aid to our enemies.

Oh wait. They meant only stand behind white GOP presidents.

/fark em
 
2013-09-02 06:07:24 PM  

born_yesterday: And on a holiday, no less. In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.


I'm wondering if the mods track how many people are favoriting or ignoring their troll accounts.  Maybe when a certain percent of regular readers has an account on ignore is when they break out a cluster of new troll accounts.
 
2013-09-02 06:09:22 PM  

Fart_Machine: Cataholic: Ah, DerpProgress.  The interviewer was giving the Secretary of State an opportunity to respond to published quotes, and somehow this is made out to be the spreading of propaganda.  Keep up the good work, derpers.

How would you respond to that is different than "haven't you handed Syria and Iran at least a temporary victory". Chris Wallace isn't going to sleep with you.


when did you stop beating your wife?
:D

not every quote, from every source requires a response.
every nutter claiming to be jesus, claiming to have spoken to jesus, claiming that their opinion is equally valid; none of these nutters deserve a response. they are nutters.

/good thing that the presidents dont have time for fark
 
2013-09-02 06:09:54 PM  

Heliovdrake: Well see the thing is you are a troll,


You should ignore everyone that you don't share a similar opinion with.  That way, you'd never be wrong about anything.  Wouldn't that be awesome?   I mean farking really, pulling out comments from another thread?  Sad, very sad.
 
2013-09-02 06:13:53 PM  

StopLurkListen: super_grass: Stopped reading

We know it's hard, but keep at it! We know you can do it. You'll soon be 'reading to learn' instead of 'learning to read'.


F**k it. He'll be a stripper.
 
2013-09-02 06:18:02 PM  

freak7: Heliovdrake: Well see the thing is you are a troll,

You should ignore everyone that you don't share a similar opinion with.  That way, you'd never be wrong about anything.  Wouldn't that be awesome?   I mean farking really, pulling out comments from another thread?  Sad, very sad.


I brought it up because it shows you denying reality for several posts despite being show to be wrong.

So either you are an idiot, or a troll.

/I suppose you could an both.
//or a shill.
 
2013-09-02 06:27:01 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: born_yesterday: And on a holiday, no less. In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.

I'm wondering if the mods track how many people are favoriting or ignoring their troll accounts.  Maybe when a certain percent of regular readers has an account on ignore is when they break out a cluster of new troll accounts.


I have been thinking about a meta-site which "presented" fark ignore data.
You could see how many people ignored you, favorited you, and how many people over all ignored a certain troll. 

There is an opportunity for fark to expand its roll as a social website!!

/I spend way too much time looking at data.
 
2013-09-02 06:29:31 PM  

namatad: LordJiro: Again, you idiots biatched yourselves inside-out when Obama DIDN'T ask Congress in Libya. And you'd be doing the same if he didn't now.

They hate the person and everything that he does. If god himself appeared and stated that Obama was the second coming, they would hate god and obama even more.

These are also the same people who stated that we should stand behind the president during time of war.
That not doing so put our soldiers overseas at deadly risk. that it gave aid to our enemies.

Oh wait. They meant only stand behind white GOP presidents.

/fark em


They really tossed all of their nonwhite GOP presidents under the bus.
 
2013-09-02 06:32:39 PM  

namatad: Satanic_Hamster: born_yesterday: And on a holiday, no less. In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.

I'm wondering if the mods track how many people are favoriting or ignoring their troll accounts.  Maybe when a certain percent of regular readers has an account on ignore is when they break out a cluster of new troll accounts.

I have been thinking about a meta-site which "presented" fark ignore data.
You could see how many people ignored you, favorited you, and how many people over all ignored a certain troll. 

There is an opportunity for fark to expand its roll as a social website!!

/I spend way too much time looking at data.


I always thought that in your public account data, it should show how many people have you on ignore, and how many people have you Favorited.
 
2013-09-02 06:33:40 PM  

Heliovdrake: I brought it up because it shows you denying reality for several posts despite being show to be wrong.


You haven't shown me to be wrong about anything, what you've proven, without a doubt, it your ability to accept that not everybody shares your opinion.  Now please do me a favor and stop cyber stalking me.
 
2013-09-02 06:36:20 PM  

Heliovdrake: namatad: Satanic_Hamster: born_yesterday: And on a holiday, no less. In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.

I'm wondering if the mods track how many people are favoriting or ignoring their troll accounts.  Maybe when a certain percent of regular readers has an account on ignore is when they break out a cluster of new troll accounts.

I have been thinking about a meta-site which "presented" fark ignore data.
You could see how many people ignored you, favorited you, and how many people over all ignored a certain troll. 

There is an opportunity for fark to expand its roll as a social website!!

/I spend way too much time looking at data.

I always thought that in your public account data, it should show how many people have you on ignore, and how many people have you Favorited.


Oooooo, and how many of which color have you favorited.  I mean, not the color of the person favoriting you, but the color they used.  You racist bastards.
 
2013-09-02 06:37:34 PM  

the_dude_abides: Lionel Mandrake: Um...no.  Think Progress typically quotes directly.  Usually they include video or audio of what they are covering so you can see/hear it yourself.  Wallace either did or did not say what they claim he said.

FOX et al spend most of their time mocking Obama for his choice of paperclips or asking Donald Trump what his opinion is (that is, in the rare event that the triumvirate of geniuses at FOX & Friends can't sufficiently derpsplain what unconstitutional outrage Obama will be using to destroy America that day).

...and now you're gonna rationalize and pretend it's somehow different when your side does it. you're delusional beyond belief.


No, I'm gonna say that while both sides may be bad, both sides are most definitelyNOTequallybad.

This point is obvious to non-"conservatives"
 
2013-09-02 06:44:25 PM  

freak7: Heliovdrake: I brought it up because it shows you denying reality for several posts despite being show to be wrong.

You haven't shown me to be wrong about anything, what you've proven, without a doubt, it your ability to accept that not everybody shares your opinion.  Now please do me a favor and stop cyber stalking me.


You're doing it again.
 
2013-09-02 06:49:54 PM  

Nobodyn0se: freak7: ManateeGag: How are they allowed to call themselves a News organization anymore.

Because MSNBC still exists.

[In erudite British accent] Here we see the BSABSVR in his natural habitat. The BSABSVR prefers to live in an extremely even environment, equating all possible things in any given category from its surroundings... at every opportunity.


Stolen from another thread:

Dara O'Briain on the media's obsession with balance:

So they interview a rocket scientist. "Mr NASA guy, you've built a new space station."

They go, "That's very interesting, But for the sake of balance, we must now turn to Barry who believes the sky is a carpet painted by God. Barry, what do you think of this space station plan?"
 
2013-09-02 06:53:12 PM  

simplicimus: BMulligan: simplicimus: BMulligan: simplicimus: And if you read the Constitution, having a standing peacetime army is unconstitutional, as is the existence Air Force.

Nonsense. To say that something is unmentioned in the Constitution is not at all the same thing as saying something violates the Constitution.

The peacetime army stuff is unconstitutional.

"To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

Point out the part there that makes maintaining a standing army unconstitutional.

The difference is between Provide and maintain a Navy, vs. the rules attached to having an army.


You don't have any training or experience in constitutional analysis, do you? Because I've got to say, you're really bad at it.
 
2013-09-02 07:10:03 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: No, I'm gonna say that while both sides may be bad, both sides are most definitelyNOTequallybad.

This point is obvious to non-"conservatives"


yeah man, totes... when democrats act like pieces of shiat, it still FEELS right because you're on board with the ideology lol
 
2013-09-02 07:10:38 PM  

simplicimus: BMulligan: simplicimus: And if you read the Constitution, having a standing peacetime army is unconstitutional, as is the existence Air Force.

Nonsense. To say that something is unmentioned in the Constitution is not at all the same thing as saying something violates the Constitution.

The peacetime army stuff is unconstitutional.

"To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"


And this is why Army funding is based on a 2 year appropriation cycle.  Perfectly constitutional.
 
2013-09-02 07:22:26 PM  

fusillade762: Stolen from another thread:

Dara O'Briain on the media's obsession with balance:

So they interview a rocket scientist. "Mr NASA guy, you've built a new space station."

They go, "That's very interesting, But for the sake of balance, we must now turn to Barry who believes the sky is a carpet painted by God. Barry, what do you think of this space station plan?"


lolz it doesn't get any more self-serving than that

"hay guys, remember when we said both sides were bad? well, it turns out our side is awesome and only the republicans are bad. and that's like, scientific, because we're the party of facts and truth and stuff."
 
2013-09-02 07:26:41 PM  
Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.
 
2013-09-02 07:36:51 PM  
[Fox argued that] the administration has shown weakness in failing to unilaterally strike Syria

There's the pivot. We all knew this was going to happen. Just last week, Obama was an "imperial president" that was going to strike Syria without getting the thumbs up from Congress.

/Thumbs up their asses, my friend. Thumbs up their asses.
 
2013-09-02 07:50:26 PM  

Heliovdrake: namatad: Satanic_Hamster: born_yesterday: And on a holiday, no less. In any case, it's the same uncannily familiar, boring, antagonistic and/or ignorant shiat.

They even through in an "echo chamber" comment when they started to get ignored. Just sad.

I'm wondering if the mods track how many people are favoriting or ignoring their troll accounts.  Maybe when a certain percent of regular readers has an account on ignore is when they break out a cluster of new troll accounts.

I have been thinking about a meta-site which "presented" fark ignore data.
You could see how many people ignored you, favorited you, and how many people over all ignored a certain troll. 

There is an opportunity for fark to expand its roll as a social website!!

/I spend way too much time looking at data.

I always thought that in your public account data, it should show how many people have you on ignore, and how many people have you Favorited.


ALAS, just a count of favorites only goes so far.
I favorite 1st time offenders, comment as to WHY, color code them as BLACK and next time they troll they get the ignore list ....

but yah, counts would be awesome

WAIT!!!! no one likes me on fark??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2013-09-02 07:56:16 PM  

theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.


perhaps. Both also true, however.

Clearly, assisting the rebels will be siding with the side AQ is on. Asking Congress to make the decision takes the hard choice out of his hands. Ergo, being weak.
 
2013-09-02 08:04:27 PM  

theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.


If Obama does X it's the worst thing ever.
 
2013-09-02 08:07:43 PM  

Fart_Machine: theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.

If Obama does X it's the worst thing ever.


If Obama does X is must be defended as 30th derivative multi-dimensional chess
 
2013-09-02 08:12:43 PM  

Fart_Machine: theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.

If Obama does X it's the worst thing ever.


have you noticed that the RIGHT has been pretty quiet about the unemployment rate these days?
the best that they have left is that THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER WITH RMONEY !!!!
 
2013-09-02 08:16:16 PM  

skullkrusher: If Obama does X is must be defended as 30th derivative multi-dimensional chess


no man, you don't GET it. he's not just thinking 10 moves ahead, he's thinking 20 moves ahead. because he's like, a genius and stuff. smartest guy in the room. he knows more about policy than his policy guys. the long game, bro, the LONG game. whoa... i just blew my own mind. need to go sit down for a while, brb.
 
2013-09-02 08:27:26 PM  

theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.


Bears repeating because I have no clue what Conservatives want Obama to do (besides resign) and I don't think they do either.

So do Conservatives want Obama to go into Syria or not? Because if he would have said no to attacking Syria, the Conservatives would've view Obama as weak right?
 
2013-09-02 08:27:35 PM  

skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.

If Obama does X it's the worst thing ever.

If Obama does X is must be defended as 30th derivative multi-dimensional chess


Funny I never said that. Still trolling for attention? Sad.
 
2013-09-02 08:31:49 PM  

max_pooper: Aristocles: ThinkProgress is really stretching here. Wallace asked for a response to comments made by Syrian officials. There's nothing wrong with that and it's not his fault if the Syrian govt lies.

too bad I'm on a tablet and can't hover the link...
/never would have clicked if I'd known it was gsorosfundedThinkProgress

I can assume you are a moran not only because of you "gsorosfunded" stupidity but also because the source of the link is right under the headline for all to see.


It's still a stretch for think progress to spend time on this. Any balking by our president would be seen as a small victory by the opposition... both Assad and GOP.
 
2013-09-02 08:37:08 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Bears repeating because I have no clue what Conservatives want Obama to do (besides resign) and I don't think they do either.


If he resigned they'd biatch endlessly on how weak and pathetic he is.
 
2013-09-02 08:44:41 PM  

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: theknuckler_33: Conservatives: "If Obama strikes Syrian government targets, he'll be fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda... but if he asks Congress to give their blessing, he's being weak."

Lunatics.

If Obama does X it's the worst thing ever.

If Obama does X is must be defended as 30th derivative multi-dimensional chess

Funny I never said that. Still trolling for attention? Sad.


observing for lulz, actually.

The object of your affection looks a little bit foolish here. I didn't expect you to admit it. He's just playing the long game. I know, I know.
 
2013-09-02 08:46:52 PM  

the_dude_abides: skullkrusher: If Obama does X is must be defended as 30th derivative multi-dimensional chess

no man, you don't GET it. he's not just thinking 10 moves ahead, he's thinking 20 moves ahead. because he's like, a genius and stuff. smartest guy in the room. he knows more about policy than his policy guys. the long game, bro, the LONG game. whoa... i just blew my own mind. need to go sit down for a while, brb.


it's amazing. Honestly, he objectively looks stupid in this regard. Talked of redlines and enormous consequences and now faced with the decision, he punts the choice to Congress. If he has reservations about striking Syria and it is quite clear that he does and I agree with those reservations, sack up and say so. He looks like the empty suit he has been wrongfully accused of being for the past 5+ years.
 
2013-09-02 08:52:19 PM  
skullkrusher:  Still trolling for attention.

Yawn.  Run along now.
 
2013-09-02 08:56:03 PM  

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher:  Still trolling for attention.

Yawn.  Run along now.


We're gonna run with our usual game of you attempting to save face without addressing anything? That's always fun.
 
2013-09-02 08:59:54 PM  

skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher:  Still trolling for attention.

Yawn.  Run along now.

We're gonna run with our usual game of you attempting to save face without addressing anything? That's always fun.


This is now a race to get the last word.

ALLEZ BUTTHURT
 
2013-09-02 09:01:47 PM  

skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher:  Still trolling for attention.

Yawn.  Run along now.

We're gonna run with our usual game of you attempting to save face without addressing anything? That's always fun.


Oh yeah, I forgot this is some kind of prestige thing for you. 

Ok, just so you can go away happy I concede you won the internet on something I never said.
 
2013-09-02 09:17:05 PM  

PanicMan: simplicimus: BMulligan: simplicimus: And if you read the Constitution, having a standing peacetime army is unconstitutional, as is the existence Air Force.

Nonsense. To say that something is unmentioned in the Constitution is not at all the same thing as saying something violates the Constitution.

The peacetime army stuff is unconstitutional.

"To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

And this is why Army funding is based on a 2 year appropriation cycle.  Perfectly constitutional.


The standing army was created was created by an act of congress. Several, in fact: The Continental Army, followed by the Legion of the United States, followed by the United States Army. It's legal, just not in the Constitution.
 
2013-09-02 09:19:39 PM  
Nope,nope,nope,nope,nope. No more farking wars in the middle east. Let them farking sort it out.
 
2013-09-02 09:28:20 PM  
Imagine how Mike Wallace feels about his sniveling coont of a son? I could handle gay, underachiever, alcoholic, but this human fecal vessel? I'd never speak to him.
 
2013-09-02 09:29:33 PM  
simplicimus:
The standing army was created was created by an act of congress. Several, in fact: The Continental Army, followed by the Legion of the United States, followed by the United States Army. It's legal, just not in the Constitution.

What simplicimus might look like:

starsmedia.ign.com
 
2013-09-02 09:41:35 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: simplicimus:
The standing army was created was created by an act of congress. Several, in fact: The Continental Army, followed by the Legion of the United States, followed by the United States Army. It's legal, just not in the Constitution.

What simplicimus might look like:

[starsmedia.ign.com image 480x270]


Don't get the reference, but I'm older, greyer,not as clean cut and a little more hefty. I do like french cuffs and cufflinks, but the shirt collar is hideous.
 
2013-09-02 09:43:59 PM  

Aristocles: ThinkProgress is really stretching here. Wallace asked for a response to comments made by Syrian officials. There's nothing wrong with that and it's not his fault if the Syrian govt lies.

too bad I'm on a tablet and can't hover the link...
/never would have clicked if I'd known it was gsorosfundedThinkProgress


DRINK!
 
2013-09-02 09:50:10 PM  

skullkrusher: it's amazing. Honestly, he objectively looks stupid in this regard. Talked of redlines and enormous consequences and now faced with the decision, he punts the choice to Congress. If he has reservations about striking Syria and it is quite clear that he does and I agree with those reservations, sack up and say so. He looks like the empty suit he has been wrongfully accused of being for the past 5+ years.


yeah, there's no way to spin this whole debacle in a positive light. at best, obama looks incompetent. at worst, he looks like a huge pussy on the world stage. i think fareed zakaria summed it up pretty well -- "Whatever your views on the larger issues, it's hard not to conclude that the administration's handling of Syria over the last year has been a case study in how not to do foreign policy."
 
2013-09-02 09:52:39 PM  

blackminded: Alphax: simplicimus: Princess Ryans Knickers: Well FOX News is owned by a Muslim soo....

Sunni or Shia?

Saudi prince, so Sunni Wahabbi.

FTFY.


Wahabbi is a subset of Sunni
 
2013-09-02 09:58:39 PM  

cchris_39: skullkrusher: The President getting authorization from Congress for military action is a great thing in the absence of a national security emergency. However, when the President says there will be "enormous consequences" if the "red line" of use of chemical weapons is crossed and then punts the responsibility to Congress rather than making the decision himself, I'm not sure how this is supposed to be viewed in any other way.

You're exactly right.

The President blinked and made us look weak and now our enemies are rejoicing.

The rest is the usual Obama apologists trying to put a better spin on it.


So you really care about what the shiatstains running Syria think.  How quaint.
 
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