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2013-09-02 02:30:32 PM
good
we need more drugs not less.

/Thank Science for Darwin!
 
2013-09-02 02:47:29 PM
Schoolhouse Rock thread!!!!

But today I am still just a pill...
 
2013-09-02 03:39:02 PM
Here's a Molly I'd like to take orally.

cdn01.cdn.justjaredjr.com
 
2013-09-02 03:39:04 PM

Nope, no clue as to what the letters or the imagery might be referring to.


flavorwire.files.wordpress.com

 
2013-09-02 03:41:46 PM
RickRomero.jpg
 
2013-09-02 03:45:04 PM

skinink: Nope, no clue as to what the letters or the imagery might be referring to.


Some old lady?
 
2013-09-02 03:45:30 PM

AltheaToldMe: RickRomero.jpg

 
2013-09-02 03:46:38 PM
I heard Planet Janet took it. She said it was out of this world!
 
2013-09-02 03:46:41 PM
Oh yeah, baby, gimme a molly!

0.tqn.com

/ middle-aged guy in the US
 
2013-09-02 03:46:53 PM
this song was in my head yesterday...and now it's back today...thanks subby...
 
2013-09-02 03:46:54 PM
When did they rename X to molly?

/kids these days
 
2013-09-02 03:48:37 PM

lilplatinum: When did they rename X to molly?

/kids these days


They will never admit they use their grandparents' drug of choice.
 
2013-09-02 03:48:57 PM
Didn't know it was first used as a diet pill in 1914. They knew how to party back then.
 
2013-09-02 03:49:20 PM

lilplatinum: When did they rename X to molly?

/kids these days


When did they rename E to X?
 
2013-09-02 03:49:31 PM
Drugs are good for the gene pool.
 
2013-09-02 03:50:41 PM
That's etarded.
 
2013-09-02 03:50:59 PM

AltheaToldMe: RickRomero.jpg


No shiat.
 
2013-09-02 03:51:02 PM
I'm fully aware that ecstasy leads to an appreciation of repetitive actions but we just had a Molly thread last night, another one so soon and we might not feel the full effects.
Downer.
 
2013-09-02 03:51:03 PM
X is horrible, but It's not going to kill you., Your own dumb teenage ass is well equipped for that without rolling.
 
2013-09-02 03:51:05 PM
So, if you're selling that, you're Flogging Molly?
 
2013-09-02 03:51:40 PM
I'll just leave this here: googling

"Alcohol Poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us  807,000 results.

"MDMA poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us 65 results.
 
2013-09-02 03:52:11 PM
Hmm. My cousin's weekend Facebook posts are starting to make sense now.
 
2013-09-02 03:53:30 PM
Is it the 1990s in the UK again?
 
2013-09-02 03:55:04 PM

sobriquet by any other name: I'll just leave this here: googling

"Alcohol Poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us  807,000 results.

"MDMA poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us 65 results.


That couldn't be because alcohol is legal and plentiful. It has to be because MDMA is healthy. It has Niacin and shiat.
 
2013-09-02 03:55:18 PM
This is why you don't want to lie to kids by putting marijuana in the same class of drugs as ecstasy.
 
2013-09-02 03:56:11 PM
I was offered a Molly suppository once at a party....I just wasn't sure where to stick it.
 
2013-09-02 03:58:28 PM

sobriquet by any other name: I'll just leave this here: googling

"Alcohol Poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us  807,000 results.

"MDMA poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us 65 results.


this right here.  not saying it isn't an issue but a doc saying "2 deaths is troublesome" is forgetting that while he was saying that 50 people died from alcohol and at least 25 died from stupid car tricks.

Molly isn't worth getting upset about, most people don't use it or even know where to get it and the shiat people get in clubs is probably not even Molly or is cut so heavily that they might as well drink some Robitussin.
 
2013-09-02 03:59:23 PM

Mugato: Here's a Molly I'd like to take orally.

[cdn01.cdn.justjaredjr.com image 300x300]


Why? Are you impotent?
 
2013-09-02 04:01:43 PM
Is it 2001 again?

Was this reporter born 5 years ago?
 
2013-09-02 04:01:51 PM
MDMA isn't that dangerous.

In the hands of uneducated, or stupid people who want to sell it mixed with amphetamines or other substances, on the other hand.
 
2013-09-02 04:02:33 PM

Mugato: sobriquet by any other name: I'll just leave this here: googling

"Alcohol Poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us  807,000 results.

"MDMA poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us 65 results.

That couldn't be because alcohol is legal and plentiful. It has to be because MDMA is healthy. It has Niacin and shiat.


Yup essential amino acids AND it helps you to sweat out impurities like those asian foot pads do!

///trip, toe, fanning the flames
 
2013-09-02 04:03:08 PM
"a guy I know", secured as interest on a loan, 500 doses of very pure product. He had a very profitable return, and lots of fun with Molly and a multitude of females.

/ "he said"
 
2013-09-02 04:03:09 PM

lilplatinum: When did they rename X to molly?

/kids these days


Ecstasy now-a-days is MDMA that is mixed with something else. Either heroin, or some other downer.

At least, that's the lingo used around St. Louis a couple years ago.
 
2013-09-02 04:03:57 PM

Sneakernets: X is horrible, but It's not going to kill you., Your own dumb teenage ass is well equipped for that without rolling.


Hyponatremia (Erowid link - pnsfw)
 
2013-09-02 04:06:13 PM

Modguy: lilplatinum: When did they rename X to molly?

/kids these days

Ecstasy now-a-days is MDMA that is mixed with something else. Either heroin, or some other downer.

At least, that's the lingo used around St. Louis a couple years ago.


I was always skeptical about what they said it was cut with.  Heroin is more expensive than MDMA, what kind of drug dealer cuts a drug with a more expensive drug?
 
2013-09-02 04:09:06 PM
Molly?

HEELLLLLLL YEAH!
 
2013-09-02 04:15:03 PM
Ecstasy now-a-days is MDMA that is mixed with something else. Either heroin, or some other downer.

Let's not perpetuate that myth. Not only are the effects of something like heroin easily distinguishable from Molly (so called "molecule", or pure MDMA, but the most commonadulterant is not providing MDMA at all, but rather, one of several analogs like MDA (speedy-feeling, and hepatoxic) or even a different compound altogether like 2-CB (much more "psychedelic" with a sharper stimulant effect).

Most of the more perilous news stories come from this type of issue. To mention the obvious, putting heroin or other mainstream drugs in an MDMA pill would make it  more expensive, not less, further reducing the probabilty of ever finding a pill with it.

Moving beyond the major chemicals, the most common additives in these pills are  cafeine (a hell of a drug in wrong doses/times) and cheap disassociatves like DXM, which sells for pennies a dose and is widely available.

The important bit is that If you're actually getting MDMA, you're probably doing fine. MDMA is one of the most framed substances out there.. it gets a bad rap.

If this means that the wise adventurer carries a reagent kit to tell the difference, well, that's simply illustrating the benefit of a solid drug education, something we desprately need, not because of some drug war, but because the arrow of entropy and knowledge points one way, and the future is MORE drugs, not less.

As a society, we need to tell the truth, kids can handle it, and it might just save their lives.
 
2013-09-02 04:16:35 PM
Most of the time Molly kills you because you get dehydrated and overwork yourself. Don't be a dumbass and drink plenty of water and you'll be fine.

Not counting the ridiculous sex with people you'd normally never have sex with. Stay away from people you know have a big crush on you, because you might be inclined to throw'em a bone (Ha!) while you're rolling and then you'll regret it later.

/The majority of illegal drugs are perfectly safe so long as you're not an idiot about it and do some research before diving in.
 
2013-09-02 04:16:44 PM

sobriquet by any other name: I'll just leave this here: googling

"Alcohol Poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us  807,000 results.

"MDMA poisoning" Deaths Concert

gets us 65 results.


"mdma poisoning" - About 211,000 results (0.27 seconds)

Here's one result link that came up: "Must-read paper: 12 cases of MDMA (ecstasy) toxicity from a rave party "
 
2013-09-02 04:17:28 PM
From way back in 1992.....relevant.
"E's are good, E's are good"
Cannot get any more blatant than this... lol

http://youtu.be/YFJdUJg4wOk
 
2013-09-02 04:17:40 PM
I don't know how much ecstasy it takes to kill you but it has to be a whole lot. They probably got dosed with a new synthetic drug like 25I. It has killed a few kids.
 
2013-09-02 04:18:34 PM

sobriquet by any other name: Ecstasy now-a-days is MDMA that is mixed with something else. Either heroin, or some other downer.

Let's not perpetuate that myth. Not only are the effects of something like heroin easily distinguishable from Molly (so called "molecule", or pure MDMA, but the most commonadulterant is not providing MDMA at all, but rather, one of several analogs like MDA (speedy-feeling, and hepatoxic) or even a different compound altogether like 2-CB (much more "psychedelic" with a sharper stimulant effect).

Most of the more perilous news stories come from this type of issue. To mention the obvious, putting heroin or other mainstream drugs in an MDMA pill would make it  more expensive, not less, further reducing the probabilty of ever finding a pill with it.

Moving beyond the major chemicals, the most common additives in these pills are  cafeine (a hell of a drug in wrong doses/times) and cheap disassociatves like DXM, which sells for pennies a dose and is widely available.

The important bit is that If you're actually getting MDMA, you're probably doing fine. MDMA is one of the most framed substances out there.. it gets a bad rap.

If this means that the wise adventurer carries a reagent kit to tell the difference, well, that's simply illustrating the benefit of a solid drug education, something we desprately need, not because of some drug war, but because the arrow of entropy and knowledge points one way, and the future is MORE drugs, not less.

As a society, we need to tell the truth, kids can handle it, and it might just save their lives.


^I like everything about this^
 
2013-09-02 04:19:13 PM
I don't know if there's much difference in the stuff I did over a dozen years ago and what the kids are using now, but what I did was farking fantastic.

Not only does it make you feel great, but you see things so clearly. Emotional issues and patterns in your behavior become so clear. It's not at all hard to see why it's useful in PTSD.
 
2013-09-02 04:20:01 PM
FWIW, one of the guys who just died in NY stated (right before he lost consciousness) that he had ingested 6 doses of the drug.

Anyone who takes that much of a street drug purchased off a stranger probably is Darwin material.

This coming from someone who slurped a tablespoon of liquid LSD from his palm in the parking lot of RFK when Sting opened for The Dead.  BEST Sting set EVER.

I lived to quit my job the next day and tour for the next 5 shows.

/CSB?
 
2013-09-02 04:21:44 PM

skinink: Alcohol Poisoning


"mdma poisoning" - About 211,000 results (0.27 seconds) 

"Alcohol Poisoning " About 7,510,000   (or 40x more)

i think we're done here.

/or not... no need to go on about how alchohol is "legal", people do them both in adequate numbers; liquor kills ya quicker, per capita, per person, per event, whatever metric you choose. Won't someone please think of the concerts??
 
2013-09-02 04:23:50 PM

sobriquet by any other name: skinink: Alcohol Poisoning

"mdma poisoning" - About 211,000 results (0.27 seconds)


Why you gotta be so uncool, man? Just take it. It's all good.
 
2013-09-02 04:23:57 PM
Molly is actually the name of a synth chemical that mimics E and love.
It can be just as first time lethal but it also doesn't get out of your system as fast as either of the two others.

People on drugs confusing names, what else is new.
 
2013-09-02 04:30:11 PM
I'll post what I said in the other thread, because people seem to be really farking ignorant about this.

ECSTASY *IS* MOLLY. They're the same god damn thing.

Ecstasy refers to the class of drugs in the methyl group called empathogens. There's something like 14 of them, the most famous ones being MDMA, MDA, MDBD and MDEA. They all have relatively similar effects with subtle differences -- some are more energetic while others are more euphoric. If you don't have a lot of experience with these drugs, then you're not going to be able to tell the difference.

The one everyone claims to love the most is MDMA. It's the most sensual/social; people LOVE to talk on it. It is not, however, the most preferred at raves -- that would be MDA which gives more of a body rush; good for dancing. In the 90s, it was typical for partykids to take MDMA for the lovey-dovey and chase it with crystal meth for the dancing.

Somehow over the past decade the term "Molly" emerged, most likely from the gay scene because gay kids always have feminine names for drugs (meth they call Tina... as in Crystina), but it is applied from a position of almost complete ignorance. From what I can understand, the term refers to MDMA exclusively although in truth when you buy a batch of e it is impossible to know what you're getting (most of the time you're getting a chemical cocktail of MDMA/MDA and meth anyway).

So when people claim they're getting, or taking, or they're on "Molly", they usually don't know what they're talking about. The most common form of ecstasy is MDA -- it's the cheapest and easiest to synthesize so it's the easiest to get, which is fine because it's normally the one everyone prefers at parties anyway. MDMA just makes you want to sit around and have intimate conversations all night.

Whenever there's an outbreak of ecstasy deaths (like what happened here), it's usually attributed to Para-Methoxyamphetamine or PMA (although I'll withhold judgment in this case until more info becomes available), which is frequently sold as e. It is an amphetamine but behaves nothing like the ecstasy group, and its odd effects (like a combo between a psychedelic and an anti-depressant) compels kids to take more when it doesn't work properly, and they overdose and die. PMA is nasty stuff.
 
2013-09-02 04:32:45 PM
img706.imageshack.us

^ Anyone tried asking these guys about Molly?
 
2013-09-02 04:33:08 PM
Use it with an adjective, you'll get much more!

/curse you for the earworm, subby
 
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