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(Yahoo)   Fresh out of the Courtroom for mistreating player concussions, the NFL decides getting an MRSA infection at a training facility is a "non-football injury"   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 34
    More: Asinine, Lawrence Tynes, pirates, Amanda Tynes, NFL, Mark Dominik, Greg Schiano, MRSA, courtroom  
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2013-09-02 03:18:49 PM
This could get really fun if OSHA got involved.
 
2013-09-02 03:19:33 PM
Contracted from a dirty needle he used for PEDs?
 
2013-09-02 03:30:05 PM
If my wife was talking shiat about my employer online, we'd be having a serious talk. Keep that kind of complaining in the house or with your friends, at the most. Don't publicly put down the people that pay the bills.

Also, what's wrong with email?
 
2013-09-02 03:30:45 PM
take your bactrim ds, get your I&D, and stop your biatching nancy-boys!!!
 
2013-09-02 03:31:11 PM
It did not happen while he was playing football, therefore it is a non-football injury.

Of course, if you place someone on IR, I think they still get their salary because it occured playing football. If you place someone on NFI, you don't have to pay them (or as much?). Which would be kinda awful.
 
2013-09-02 03:33:23 PM
From a different article: Tynes was informed Saturday that he was placed on the team's non-football injury list, a designation that guarantees Tynes his $840,000 base salary but withholds other benefits reserved for players on injured reserve.
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So I was wrong. But I dunno what the 'other benefits' are.
 
2013-09-02 03:45:53 PM

jake3988: From a different article: Tynes was informed Saturday that he was placed on the team's non-football injury list, a designation that guarantees Tynes his $840,000 base salary but withholds other benefits reserved for players on injured reserve.
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So I was wrong. But I dunno what the 'other benefits' are.


I think IR means he gets another year counted towards his pension, whereas NFI list does not.
 
2013-09-02 03:50:41 PM
It is not a football-playing injury.

It is a workplace injury.

Since he is not a "student-athlete" (heh heh), workers' comp laws apply.

The end.
 
2013-09-02 04:00:18 PM
I take it all the staph infections the Browns' players got are non-football-related as well?
 
2013-09-02 04:08:28 PM
Anyone else notice his wife's name is Amanda?

Heh.
 
2013-09-02 04:33:49 PM
Team can very easily make the argument that he contracted the infection elsewhere. There's no proof either way. They also graciously decided to pay Tynes his full salary though it was not required. He's understandably upset that the year won't count toward his pension which is perhaps a broken rule that needs to be fixed for this specific injury but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about it. His salary is $800k+ to take antibiotics for a while.
 
2013-09-02 04:39:55 PM
 
2013-09-02 05:03:20 PM

No Soap Radio: Team can very easily make the argument that he contracted the infection elsewhere. There's no proof either way. They also graciously decided to pay Tynes his full salary though it was not required. He's understandably upset that the year won't count toward his pension which is perhaps a broken rule that needs to be fixed for this specific injury but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about it. His salary is $800k+ to take antibiotics for a while.


Since another player on the team has staph, it's not too much of a stretch to assume he got it at the facility. They're also not graciously paying his salary, they're doing it because they have to pay him. Even if he were released, you can't have guy get an infection at the workplace and then not pay him. There's zero chance any union would let that fly.
 
2013-09-02 05:03:36 PM

No Soap Radio: Team can very easily make the argument that he contracted the infection elsewhere. There's no proof either way. They also graciously decided to pay Tynes his full salary though it was not required. He's understandably upset that the year won't count toward his pension which is perhaps a broken rule that needs to be fixed for this specific injury but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about it. His salary is $800k+ to take antibiotics for a while.


you've never had a serious infection I see. it's a lot more than "take antibiotics."
 
2013-09-02 05:20:23 PM

domdare: No Soap Radio: Team can very easily make the argument that he contracted the infection elsewhere. There's no proof either way. They also graciously decided to pay Tynes his full salary though it was not required. He's understandably upset that the year won't count toward his pension which is perhaps a broken rule that needs to be fixed for this specific injury but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about it. His salary is $800k+ to take antibiotics for a while.

Since another player on the team has staph, it's not too much of a stretch to assume he got it at the facility. They're also not graciously paying his salary, they're doing it because they have to pay him. Even if he were released, you can't have guy get an infection at the workplace and then not pay him. There's zero chance any union would let that fly.


See, we don't need unions - clearly they were useful at one point in the past but there is absolutely no need for them now.
 
2013-09-02 06:07:24 PM
So nobody else read this was a team decision and not an NFL decision?
 
2013-09-02 06:13:01 PM
They paid him his salary. They weren't obligated to do so.
 
2013-09-02 06:28:12 PM

Devo: They paid him his salary. They weren't obligated to do so.


No, they are offering to pay his salary if he agrees to not sue...which he hasn't agreed to at this point.

The Bucs are in full lawyer-mode now...I would expect Tynes to go into full-union grevance mode soon, if he already hasn't.
 
2013-09-02 06:37:12 PM
NFI also allows the Bucs to retain his rights and the year doesn't expire from his urgent contract.

Think about it...your employer didn't provide you a safe-working environment. You got injured and you can't work and to get any compensation, you basically have to sue your employer to get paid and you just lost a year of your limited career.

I don't know how you can NOT see the Bucs as being sleazy at this point...and BTW, kind of stuff (plus the concussion BS) is why the NFLPA doesn't trust the league, the owners and the commish...and I don't blame them at all.
 
2013-09-02 06:38:08 PM
Sorry, that should read "current contract", not "urgent contract"
 
2013-09-02 06:48:34 PM

Coach_J: NFI also allows the Bucs to retain his rights and the year doesn't expire from his urgent contract.

Think about it...your employer didn't provide you a safe-working environment. You got injured and you can't work and to get any compensation, you basically have to sue your employer to get paid and you just lost a year of your limited career.

I don't know how you can NOT see the Bucs as being sleazy at this point...and BTW, kind of stuff (plus the concussion BS) is why the NFLPA doesn't trust the league, the owners and the commish...and I don't blame them at all.


The NFL is a flesh eating disease disguised as a concussion.
 
2013-09-02 07:10:30 PM

Fizpez: domdare: No Soap Radio: Team can very easily make the argument that he contracted the infection elsewhere. There's no proof either way. They also graciously decided to pay Tynes his full salary though it was not required. He's understandably upset that the year won't count toward his pension which is perhaps a broken rule that needs to be fixed for this specific injury but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about it. His salary is $800k+ to take antibiotics for a while.

Since another player on the team has staph, it's not too much of a stretch to assume he got it at the facility. They're also not graciously paying his salary, they're doing it because they have to pay him. Even if he were released, you can't have guy get an infection at the workplace and then not pay him. There's zero chance any union would let that fly.

See, we don't need unions - clearly they were useful at one point in the past but there is absolutely no need for them now.


10/10
 
2013-09-02 08:40:49 PM
You know what drastically reduces the rate of patients getting MRSA in hospitals? Wiping the farking counters with clean farking rags. Lazy cleanup leads to outbreaks.

Sue them. Tampa Bay should already be scared shiatless if their training facility has seemingly lousy cleanliness standards when dealing with the organization's most valuable employees.
 
2013-09-02 10:01:54 PM
After seeing what Cincy went through a couple years back, I was happy to see they went full-bore and steam-bombed the place.

Still, the way the Glazers are handling it is beyond pathetic.Should be criminal, but hey, they're rich.
 
2013-09-02 10:29:26 PM
One of those situations where I come out of it liking everyone involved a lot less.
 
2013-09-02 10:36:54 PM

xaks: After seeing what Cincy went through a couple years back, I was happy to see they went full-bore and steam-bombed the place.

Still, the way the Glazers are handling it is beyond pathetic.Should be criminal, but hey, they're rich.


That's not a beard on Malcolm Glazer's face... let's just says he's not impressed with a 'little' infection...

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-09-02 11:35:59 PM
MRSA sucks.  It's unbelievably awful.  I would wish it on my worst enemy, many times over.
 
2013-09-03 12:31:42 AM
Bigger issue is the wife is a coont.

I thought famous/big name/rich people could reign their wives in?

She's solidifying his job as a grocery bagger because no one is going to want to deal with that when he is released from Tampa Bay.
 
2013-09-03 01:17:51 AM

OhioUGrad: Bigger issue is the wife is a coont.

I thought famous/big name/rich people could reign their wives in?

She's solidifying his job as a grocery bagger because no one is going to want to deal with that when he is released from Tampa Bay.


I give her a pass. Why? Tampa Bay has a antibiotic resistance virus being passed around in there locker room and they don't own up to it. Things are not being cleaned or cleaned right and Tampa Bay is throughing 2 players under the bus.

She know that Tampa Bay is full of BS and she has every right to call them out for letting a life-threatening antibiotic resistance virus being passed around.
 
2013-09-03 01:33:04 AM

Allen262: OhioUGrad: Bigger issue is the wife is a coont.

I thought famous/big name/rich people could reign their wives in?

She's solidifying his job as a grocery bagger because no one is going to want to deal with that when he is released from Tampa Bay.

I give her a pass. Why? Tampa Bay has a antibiotic resistance virus being passed around in there locker room and they don't own up to it. Things are not being cleaned or cleaned right and Tampa Bay is throughing 2 players under the bus.

She know that Tampa Bay is full of BS and she has every right to call them out for letting a life-threatening antibiotic resistance virus being passed around.


I can understand being upset about a potentially life threatening infection that he got from being in the NFL locker room, and I don't really fault her for speaking out. However, her original tweet (with an LOL no doubt) was stupid and  unproductive. She could have made a legitimate gripe to the media, instead she came across like a stupid teenager. And to keep the issue going by tweeting again? He's done in the NFL, no one will deal with that and kickers are a dime a dozen. If it were a wife of Joe Flacco or Arron Rogers, that would be different.
 
2013-09-03 02:41:51 AM

OhioUGrad: Allen262: OhioUGrad: Bigger issue is the wife is a coont.

I thought famous/big name/rich people could reign their wives in?

She's solidifying his job as a grocery bagger because no one is going to want to deal with that when he is released from Tampa Bay.

I give her a pass. Why? Tampa Bay has a antibiotic resistance virus being passed around in there locker room and they don't own up to it. Things are not being cleaned or cleaned right and Tampa Bay is throughing 2 players under the bus.

She know that Tampa Bay is full of BS and she has every right to call them out for letting a life-threatening antibiotic resistance virus being passed around.

I can understand being upset about a potentially life threatening infection that he got from being in the NFL locker room, and I don't really fault her for speaking out. However, her original tweet (with an LOL no doubt) was stupid and  unproductive. She could have made a legitimate gripe to the media, instead she came across like a stupid teenager. And to keep the issue going by tweeting again? He's done in the NFL, no one will deal with that and kickers are a dime a dozen. If it were a wife of Joe Flacco or Arron Rogers, that would be different.


Twitter works much faster than any media. Her original tweet was productive as the media now know about what TB is trying to pull. Tweeting about how TB wounldn't say that Lawrence Tynes' was put on NFI to his face is also fine. Once you start throwing people under the bus to cover up the fact you can't provide you a safe-working environment the safely come off.

As for him being done in the NFL. He may never play again depending on the amout of damage that the MRSA infection and the three surgical procedures to remove the infection has done.
 
2013-09-03 08:37:35 AM
The general feeling I get from all of this is that, while douchey, is perfectly acceptable under the rules of the CBI.  Said rule might even get discussed at the next bargaining session, if they're not too busy acting like a bunch of Congressmen.  That being said, yes it should be taken care of, just like any work-related STD/LTD issue.  They have insurance to cover this, so no reason to try and shirk the responsibility.

Allen262: He may never play again depending on the amout of damage that the MRSA infection and the three surgical procedures to remove the infection has done.


Let's be perfectly honest though - would he be in the career position he's in if the quality of Patriots' DBs have been criminally neglected by Belichick's outdated "everything is predicated by line play" system?  My guess is no.

inclemency: Anyone else notice his wife's name is Amanda?

Heh.


Took a second, but yes, this does mean she's one letter away from batshiat insane.
 
2013-09-03 08:53:54 AM
He signed on July 17 and went in for surgery on the toe in July 30 and, according to reports, the infection has been in his foot months.  Prior to him being there, there are no instances of MRSA in that locker room.  After he was in that locker room, there are 2 (His and Nicks's).  He's the vector and he had it before even signing his contract.  He's the one that brought it into the facility.  He's lucky he is on NFI and not released.
 
2013-09-03 08:56:13 AM

AliceBToklasLives: workers' comp laws apply.


And under workers compensation laws, his injury can be deemed idiopathic in nature and benefits can be denied.
 
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