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(Motor Trend)   98 cylinders, 5394 lb-ft of torque, 6140 horsepower, nine turbochargers, and a combined value of $1,895,515 (w/video)   (motortrend.com) divider line 65
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2013-09-02 07:14:53 AM  
Trying to be like Top Gear, missing by a mile (or should I say, Kilometer).
 
2013-09-02 07:53:00 AM  
Drag racing a sports car?
 
2013-09-02 08:19:39 AM  
Still a pretty fun watch.

Sadly, about 2/3rds of those cars don't belong on any list that doesn't include the word 'shiatbox'
 
2013-09-02 08:42:27 AM  
Focus ST???  Really???  "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars!  Brilliant!"
 
2013-09-02 08:55:12 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"


I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.
 
2013-09-02 09:02:34 AM  
Not sure what the Focus is doing there.  You could take the next cheapest car there and buy four Focus STs.
 
2013-09-02 09:18:41 AM  
The Focus is there because it is the best car in the last 25 years, world wide.

My question is where was last year's winner's current best car?
 
2013-09-02 09:26:42 AM  

WhyteRaven74: HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"

I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.


You are technically correct.  However, my point still stands in that that wagon is RWD, and has ~500 hp.  Also, as  AKA Joker mentioned, the Focus is about 1/4 the price of the Mercedes.
 
2013-09-02 10:01:46 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: You are technically correct.


the best kind of correct
 
2013-09-02 10:02:41 AM  
Any math geeks do any maths on the performance/price results?


Last years race I think you had to spend 100k per .3 seconds to beat the sub 100k car in the race or something.
 
2013-09-02 10:02:42 AM  
I came ...
 
2013-09-02 10:18:26 AM  

Giltric: Any math geeks do any maths on the performance/price results?


Last years race I think you had to spend 100k per .3 seconds to beat the sub 100k car in the race or something.


Sound about right, each second you take off of a quarter mile time gets progressively more expensive, and the curve is not linear. trying to go below 10 in a street legal car will drain just about any wallet
 
2013-09-02 10:23:32 AM  
I really wish they would put in perspective stats.

Go ahead and google what our old 'muscle car' performance specs were. Our average 4 door grocery getter would keep up with many of the 50s/60s/70s+ 'street rods' right off the showroom floor.

Its really quite silly how spoiled we've gotten with performance in the last decade or two.
 
2013-09-02 10:24:16 AM  
And here i was hoping that subbys headline meant ONE vehicle will all those mentioned.

/wonders what that vehicle would look like
 
2013-09-02 10:27:44 AM  
Ah, a race that's designed to make one car look good.  That POS Nissan.  After last year, where the Nissan got beat by, what was it?  2 or 3 cars? They made sure that THIS time it would be close, but the Nissan would win, again.  I'm surprised that they didn't have a Nissan commercial in there.
 
2013-09-02 10:29:11 AM  

xaks: I really wish they would put in perspective stats.

Go ahead and google what our old 'muscle car' performance specs were. Our average 4 door grocery getter would keep up with many of the 50s/60s/70s+ 'street rods' right off the showroom floor.

Its really quite silly how spoiled we've gotten with performance in the last decade or two.


I hadn't drive a Camry since the early 90s. Last year I ended up getting a Camry V6 as a rental. Shocking how fast that thing was. Looked it up online, it had almost 300hp and a zero to 60 just under 6 seconds
 
2013-09-02 10:33:31 AM  
I lost interest in Motor Trend's opinion of anything after they named the Vega car of the year in 1971.
 
2013-09-02 10:36:01 AM  

Warmachine999: Ah, a race that's designed to make one car look good.  That POS Nissan.  After last year, where the Nissan got beat by, what was it?  2 or 3 cars? They made sure that THIS time it would be close, but the Nissan would win, again.  I'm surprised that they didn't have a Nissan commercial in there.


300k dollar car beats 80k dollar car by hundredths of a second.......


Yeah total ownage. The Nissan was wearing noob gear from character creation and the twink alt epic raider t1 gear car barely beat it.
 
2013-09-02 10:57:45 AM  

WhyteRaven74: HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"

I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.


It looked like an E-Class wagon.

And it still beat the Bentley, which is kind of embarrassing.
 
2013-09-02 11:01:46 AM  

mainstreet62: WhyteRaven74: HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"

I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.

It looked like an E-Class wagon.

And it still beat the Bentley, which is kind of embarrassing.


the Bentley weighs 5k+ pounds
 
2013-09-02 11:11:19 AM  
I'd take the Cayman S. 170+ mph, handles like a slot car.

/the Dr crapped his pants at 160. I sure did.
 
2013-09-02 11:16:27 AM  
i can hear all those teens and twenty somethings jerking off from here.    Explosive race!!
 
2013-09-02 11:17:24 AM  

Giltric: Any math geeks do any maths on the performance/price results?


Last years race I think you had to spend 100k per .3 seconds to beat the sub 100k car in the race or something.



that's easy to do when you're spending someone else's money.
 
2013-09-02 11:28:01 AM  
I was really quite disappointed to find out that all of that power wasn't in one singular vehicle.
 
2013-09-02 11:41:26 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST???  Really???  "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars!  Brilliant!"


I didn't watch the video, but the intent was probably more to show that performance doesn't have to cost a small fortune. The Focus ST is relatively cheap and quick for what it is.

Honestly, this is hardly the world's greatest drag race.  Top Gear has out priced this race with only two cars.

Also, speed isn't everything.  The Scion FR-S/Toyota GT86 is one of the best values right now and it's fun to drive because it's designed to be a drift car.
 
2013-09-02 11:47:30 AM  

ApatheticMonkey: I was really quite disappointed to find out that all of that power wasn't in one singular vehicle.


Sea going ice breakers don't do well on asphalt.
 
2013-09-02 12:19:41 PM  

mainstreet62: WhyteRaven74: HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"

I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.

It looked like an E-Class wagon.

And it still beat the Bentley, which is kind of embarrassing.


And it was driven by a woman.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-02 12:51:15 PM  
Was anyone else expecting a single car put together by a wealthy but insane auto enthusiast?
 
2013-09-02 01:26:20 PM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Was anyone else expecting a single car put together by a wealthy but insane auto enthusiast?


There is a guy like that.

strumors.automobilemag.com viciomotor.es
He is insane.  In a good way.
 
2013-09-02 01:29:48 PM  
One engine.

GE90-110B1 rated at 110,100 lbf (489.3 kN)

that is all.
 
2013-09-02 01:56:00 PM  
Would be more impressive/interesting/relevant if they pitted lineups of similarly priced cars (isn't that what Top Gear did?)
 
2013-09-02 01:58:30 PM  

mrlewish: One engine.

GE90-110B1 rated at 110,100 lbf (489.3 kN)

that is all.


One Engine

F1 rated at 1,522,000 lbf ( 6.77 meganewtons )

that is all

Seriously, if you are gonna try trolling and be a douche, go all out.
 
2013-09-02 02:11:34 PM  

s2s2s2: The Focus is there because it is the best car in the last 25 years, world wide.

My question is where was last year's winner's current best car?


As someone who has an ST as my daily driver...if anyone questions why that car is on the "best drivers car" list obviously has never driven one.
 
2013-09-02 02:19:39 PM  

there their theyre: mrlewish: One engine.

GE90-110B1 rated at 110,100 lbf (489.3 kN)

that is all.

One Engine

F1 rated at 1,522,000 lbf ( 6.77 meganewtons )

that is all

Seriously, if you are gonna try trolling and be a douche, go all out.


This is Fark, fiction counts as production engineering.

upload.wikimedia.org

One MILLION meganewtons!
/I made that number up
//You have to read that in Earl Lemongrab's voice
 
2013-09-02 02:24:03 PM  

WhyteRaven74: HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST??? Really??? "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars! Brilliant!"

I wouldn't exactly call the Mercedes R class wagon a supercar. Even if it has AMG tuning.


Are we really that jaded? The sucker runs 11s at more than 120 MPH. I'd certainly call that supercar territory. I remember not too long ago when a trap speed over 110 MPH was considered exotic by any street car on street tires. Now station wagons are crushing the numbers that were once untouchable. Even the Focus running 14s at 95 MPH is pretty impressive for a $25,000 car that also commutes to work @ 30 MPG.

Cars today are so good and so fast we don't even know how good we have it--even garden-variety daily drivers run 14s pretty easily. I have a small collector car dealership and we sold a '67 GTO convertible with a 389 Tri-Power/4-speed setup and 3.42 gears a few months ago. The guy came back a few days later disappointed. Apparently, he expected the legendary GTO to be terrifyingly fast and so brutal that he'd have to fight to keep it on the road at all times and it would constantly be blowing the tires off. Instead, it's merely a pleasant old convertible that's about as fast as his wife's Honda minivan. Nothing wrong with the car, but the legend is, well, legendary but pretty far from true. The nastiest of the '60s muscle cars would probably not be able to keep pace with that Focus, never mind any of the other cars in the test. THAT's how good cars have gotten today. Right now is truly the golden age of horsepower.

And holy shiat that GT-R is fast.
 
2013-09-02 02:33:36 PM  

JerkStore: Are we really that jaded? The sucker runs 11s at more than 120 MPH. I'd certainly call that supercar territory.


Do you feel that your computer is a supercomputer?
 
2013-09-02 02:40:42 PM  

JerkStore: THAT's how good cars have gotten today.


This. I don't think enough is made of how much better cars are now per dollar than they were 20+ years ago in just about every major category: performance, safety, reliability, fuel efficiency (style is open to debate but that's subjective).  The least-reliable brand today is probably way more reliable than the Euros in the 80s/90s.  The notion of overheating, once a regular fact of life for drivers, is pretty much gone from modern cars.  Think about what $20k gets you now, and compare it to what that bought in 1990, especially if you adjust for inflation.

Microchips get all the credit for rapid advancement lately, as they mostly should, but cars should also get way more credit than they do.  Ironically the biggest threat to car reliability now is probably the overuse of electronics that could crash or be hacked.
 
2013-09-02 02:47:39 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: The notion of overheating, once a regular fact of life for drivers,


20 years ago? Come on.

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Ironically the biggest threat to car reliability now is probably the overuse of electronics


Garbage electronics cost-reduced to the absolute minimum. And that's not just in cars.
 
2013-09-02 02:50:57 PM  
I'll raise you 7630 horsepower, said the tortoise to the hare.
 
2013-09-02 03:26:13 PM  

AndreMA: I'll raise you 7630 horsepower, said the tortoise to the hare.


Drag boats have like 4000 horsepower. It's all about the power to weight ratio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F8N8Z_4kU4
 
2013-09-02 03:44:20 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: JerkStore: THAT's how good cars have gotten today.

This. I don't think enough is made of how much better cars are now per dollar than they were 20+ years ago in just about every major category: performance, safety, reliability, fuel efficiency (style is open to debate but that's subjective).  The least-reliable brand today is probably way more reliable than the Euros in the 80s/90s.  The notion of overheating, once a regular fact of life for drivers, is pretty much gone from modern cars.  Think about what $20k gets you now, and compare it to what that bought in 1990, especially if you adjust for inflation.

Microchips get all the credit for rapid advancement lately, as they mostly should, but cars should also get way more credit than they do.  Ironically the biggest threat to car reliability now is probably the overuse of electronics that could crash or be hacked.




Oil and oil filters are much better than they used to be, helps a ton.
 
2013-09-02 04:05:34 PM  

Glitchwerks: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Was anyone else expecting a single car put together by a wealthy but insane auto enthusiast?

There is a guy like that.

[strumors.automobilemag.com image 850x564] [viciomotor.es image 850x531]
He is insane.  In a good way.


That car looks like Jar Jar Binks.
 
2013-09-02 04:05:58 PM  
I want an SRT Viper, damn it.

I will own that car.  I swear to you all.

I'm just not sure I want to be associated with some of their owners.
 
2013-09-02 04:07:05 PM  
www.stenseth.org

7 Cylinders, 15785 kW @ 105 rpm, Or 21,000 HP.
 
2013-09-02 04:08:00 PM  

Clutch2013: I want an SRT Viper, damn it.

I will own that car.  I swear to you all.

I'm just not sure I want to be associated with some of their owners.


I hear you can 3D print cars now. I heard it here, so it must be true.
 
2013-09-02 04:09:07 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Focus ST???  Really???  "I know, let's put a FWD hatchback with 4 cylinders in a race with a 11 supercars!  Brilliant!"


It's there to show us how more mundane sports cars that the average driver might own would stack up.  The ST is a pretty close performance match to my Mazdaspeed 3, so I was interested in seeing just how badly it would be beaten.
 
2013-09-02 04:57:38 PM  
Everything's a farking travesty with you, man.
 
2013-09-02 05:28:52 PM  
Yankees Team Gynecologist : And it was driven by a woman.

I came here to say that.

My work here is done.

Shut the lights off when you leave.
 
2013-09-02 05:38:47 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Clutch2013: I want an SRT Viper, damn it.

I will own that car.  I swear to you all.

I'm just not sure I want to be associated with some of their owners.

I hear you can 3D print cars now. I heard it here, so it must be true.


...This...this is why I have you blocked.

This is a farking gearhead thread.  Leave that shiat out of it.  And don't bother responding to this, because back to ignore you go.
 
2013-09-02 05:42:39 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
84 Cylinders
>120,000hp
value of $1.5b

/posting from on board right now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allure_of_the_Seas
 
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