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2013-09-01 09:07:14 PM  

mooseyfate: I really shouldn't be surprised by the negative comments in this thread. If you can't enjoy Nausicca, Howl's, or Mononoke you have no soul.


QFT.

Though I was surprised by the hate, even from a place like this.
 
2013-09-01 09:19:45 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Rocket To Russia: AverageAmericanGuy: Most overrated director ever.

That would be Tarantino.

Touche.

I'm going to disagree, but not because I think Tarantino deserves the accolades he gets, but because at least Tarantino can tell deliver a movie that isn't 2 hours of pointless grunting.

The only Ghibli movie that has any semblance of a story is Grave of the Fireflies and Miyazaki didn't direct that one.

My wife was telling me that I don't like Miyazaki because I don't like stories that are too fantastic. But I would argue that I have no problem with far-fetched, fantastic stories like Haruki Murakami's works or Rushdie's stuff. It's the pacing and lack of plot that turn me off to Miyazaki's stuff.


I'm guessing you haven't seen Inglorious Basterds yet.  By all the gods, that was a slow, boring, pointless film...
 
2013-09-01 09:21:48 PM  

RatMaster999: AverageAmericanGuy: Rocket To Russia: AverageAmericanGuy: Most overrated director ever.

That would be Tarantino.

Touche.

I'm going to disagree, but not because I think Tarantino deserves the accolades he gets, but because at least Tarantino can tell deliver a movie that isn't 2 hours of pointless grunting.

The only Ghibli movie that has any semblance of a story is Grave of the Fireflies and Miyazaki didn't direct that one.

My wife was telling me that I don't like Miyazaki because I don't like stories that are too fantastic. But I would argue that I have no problem with far-fetched, fantastic stories like Haruki Murakami's works or Rushdie's stuff. It's the pacing and lack of plot that turn me off to Miyazaki's stuff.

I'm guessing you haven't seen Inglorious Basterds yet.  By all the gods, that was a slow, boring, pointless film...


I haven't. Did Tarantino work with Miyazaki on that one?
 
2013-09-01 09:24:41 PM  
One of my favourite movies and manga. I'm binge reading it this weekend.  400 pages to go
The source of my Fark handle.
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-09-01 09:31:48 PM  
Miyazaki is awesome, but this makes what, the third time he's announced his retirement? The fourth? I'll believe this one when I see it.

/HAM!
 
2013-09-01 09:45:24 PM  
As long as Mamoru Hosoda and Satoko Okudera keep making films together, i think we'll be ok.

smilingcat01.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-01 10:18:54 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: fearmongert: So, I would guess Spirited Away is the best of his movies to start with?

/ never seen any, not really too familiar with anime
//loved Gachaman when i was little

Spirited Away is very good, but Howl's Moving Castle is my favorite.


Cheater71: fearmongert: So, I would guess Spirited Away is the best of his movies to start with?

/ never seen any, not really too familiar with anime
//loved Gachaman when i was little

I would actually try "Laputa: Castle In The Sky" to start with. its has a more american feel to it then his other films.

/I prefer the 2003 version, with the expanded score but to each his own.


Thanks guys... I have found some really fun stuff due to other Farkers suggestions here before... I am going to start with Castle in the Sky, as it is earlier, and I can start in order chronologically from your suggestions.... I will let you both know what I think, and thank you for the honest and hopefully helpful feedback!

Cheers!
Fearmongert/ Brain Peters
 
2013-09-01 10:23:33 PM  
BTW... does anyone know a good source to see the original Gatchaman (sp?) animated show? I have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, but none of them seem to have it upon searching...

 When I watched it, ( back in the eighties... /get off my lawn!!!), it was the American "Battle of The Planets/ G Force" cartoon, and I would rather see the original with subtitles
 
2013-09-01 10:24:09 PM  

zenferret: illrigger: In other news: people who don't live in mom and dad's basement could give a fark less.

Thank god you were able to pull your mouth away from the homeless shelter's glory hole long enough to post that for us.


Not a problem!
 
2013-09-01 10:27:35 PM  

Cheater71: fearmongert: So, I would guess Spirited Away is the best of his movies to start with?

/ never seen any, not really too familiar with anime
//loved Gachaman when i was little

I would actually try "Laputa: Castle In The Sky" to start with. its has a more american feel to it then his other films.

/I prefer the 2003 version, with the expanded score but to each his own.


I would say Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is pretty accessable, possibly because its not set in some era of Japan but in another entirely fictional setting.  Miyazaki also wrote the entire manga that its based upon.
 
2013-09-01 10:38:50 PM  
I've seen a lot of anime, but the ones I watch more than once are   Mononoke and the Reign:The Conqueror.
 
2013-09-01 10:40:54 PM  

ClintonKun: doglover: He made the same movie multiple times with slight variation and has recently gotten nostolgic for his childhood.

A great among anime directors, but how many times can you have a slice of life in a strong young girl's childhood where she goes on a magic adventure with ruins and the shadows of clouds?

Well, seeing as his latest (and last?) film is about the adult male designer of the Zero fighter plane who is voiced by Hideki Anno, yes, the Hideki Anno of "What the fark did I just watch" Evangelion fame, I'd say he does have more in his bag of tricks that "little girls going on magical adventures." Yeah, he has done that more than once, but a lot of directors do the same thing when it comes to redoing the same themes. Hell, he has also done a movie about a male adult pilot who also happens to be a pig, a movie called Princess Mononoke, where the main character is not the titular princess, nor is said princess a little girl, or a princess, really, and a movie about a rogueish thief infiltrating a castle (to be fair, that one was based off an existing property, but its still the best damn Lupin III adaptation there is) That's more varied than a lot of live-action western movie makers.


Kuranainobuta is NOT about the pig. He's a secondary character. The protagonist is a young girl, and the story follows her, not the pig. And he uses ruins and old machinery like michael bay uses explosions. But he's still great.
 
2013-09-01 11:09:07 PM  

fearmongert: BTW... does anyone know a good source to see the original Gatchaman (sp?) animated show? I have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, but none of them seem to have it upon searching...

 When I watched it, ( back in the eighties... /get off my lawn!!!), it was the American "Battle of The Planets/ G Force" cartoon, and I would rather see the original with subtitles


I seem to recall reading that one of the newer anime companies have acquired the license for it, and will be releasing a remastered version later this year.

And by it, I mean Gatchaman, not Battle of the Planets.

/haven't seen it on any streaming sites, have a whack of episodes on DVD from previous releases from now defunct studios
//Gatchaman Crowds started this summer, available on Crunchyroll, but don't expect it to show any resemblance to the original
 
2013-09-01 11:10:15 PM  
I have all of the Freak Brothers comics.
 
2013-09-01 11:31:58 PM  

baka-san: Kiki is my all time favorite anime...

I have 2 cels from it.


First saw Kiki at an anime con in San Jose. On film, right after it was released in Japan. I was hooked from that moment on.

The only Ghibli cells I have so far:

a0.vsoh.com
(The bottom Kiki one includes a rain layer.)
 
2013-09-01 11:32:24 PM  
I'm actually sad about this. Miyazaki is the Walt Disney of anime, but without the anti-semitism.

Truly, this is the end of an era. :-(
 
2013-09-01 11:39:33 PM  

Cheater71: Speaking of anime, anyone know if either Children Who Chase Lost Voices or King Of Thorn are any good?


'Children Who Chase Lost Voices' was... weird.  I like Shinkai's works, usually, but that one is a little bizarre.  The animation style is clearly Ghibli (if I remember correctly he teamed up with Ghibli to make it and then they pulled out), but it's not as depressing as his stuff usually is.  It's worth a rental to watch, it's got some interesting stuff, but it comes off as jumbled and rehashed if you're familiar with some of Ghibli's other stuff, especially Princess Mononoke (one of the scenes is ripped directly from that movie).  Honestly, I'd go with '5cm per second' if you want to watch something by Shinkai, or 'Voices of a Distant Star' (it's only 20 minutes long but especially beautiful).
 
2013-09-01 11:46:05 PM  

grimlock1972: no one can say that the man has not earned a peaceful retirement.


I think Gainax might argue against that....
 
2013-09-02 12:09:34 AM  
I like all of his stuff that I have seen.  I'm most partial to Porco Rosso and Castle in the Sky.  I love those old planes and the fanciful stuff revolving around them.
 
2013-09-02 12:16:18 AM  

Captain Steroid: I'm actually sad about this. Miyazaki is the Walt Disney of anime, but without the anti-semitism.

Truly, this is the end of an era. :-(


He's retired before.
 
2013-09-02 12:56:17 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Again?  When will he return this time?

Seriously, he retired and came back once already.  I can see him trying to stay retired, but, much like Oshii, I don't see it sticking.


"Once"? He retires every couple of years.
 
2013-09-02 01:27:30 AM  

Kyosuke: a0.vsoh.com
(The bottom Kiki one includes a rain layer.)


Jealous!  ONe of mine(not framed yet) is from her dragging the box to the scale.

Here are the framed ones I have...
i201.photobucket.com
i201.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-02 01:37:24 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: RatMaster999: AverageAmericanGuy: Rocket To Russia: AverageAmericanGuy: Most overrated director ever.

That would be Tarantino.

Touche.

I'm going to disagree, but not because I think Tarantino deserves the accolades he gets, but because at least Tarantino can tell deliver a movie that isn't 2 hours of pointless grunting.

The only Ghibli movie that has any semblance of a story is Grave of the Fireflies and Miyazaki didn't direct that one.

My wife was telling me that I don't like Miyazaki because I don't like stories that are too fantastic. But I would argue that I have no problem with far-fetched, fantastic stories like Haruki Murakami's works or Rushdie's stuff. It's the pacing and lack of plot that turn me off to Miyazaki's stuff.

I'm guessing you haven't seen Inglorious Basterds yet.  By all the gods, that was a slow, boring, pointless film...

I haven't. Did Tarantino work with Miyazaki on that one?


He might have.  It's like the combined worst aspects of both of them...
 
2013-09-02 01:48:02 AM  

sugahboy: fearmongert: BTW... does anyone know a good source to see the original Gatchaman (sp?) animated show? I have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, but none of them seem to have it upon searching...

 When I watched it, ( back in the eighties... /get off my lawn!!!), it was the American "Battle of The Planets/ G Force" cartoon, and I would rather see the original with subtitles

I seem to recall reading that one of the newer anime companies have acquired the license for it, and will be releasing a remastered version later this year.

And by it, I mean Gatchaman, not Battle of the Planets.

/haven't seen it on any streaming sites, have a whack of episodes on DVD from previous releases from now defunct studios
//Gatchaman Crowds started this summer, available on Crunchyroll, but don't expect it to show any resemblance to the original


Thanks, I know the Gatchaman version is very different from The Battle Of The Planets version, I heard it was a lot darker, and no 7zark7 , which was put in to appeal to the American audienc., I also understand that when they dubbed it into english, some things were lost in translation, particularly the reveal that the villain was a woman.. want to see the original... Thanks for the info, off to watch some of  Hayao's work
 
2013-09-02 06:07:11 AM  

Rocket To Russia: AverageAmericanGuy: Most overrated director ever.

That would be Tarantino.


No no no that would be J J Abrams.
 
2013-09-02 07:04:11 AM  
I'm a big Miyazaki fan, but he's not getting any younger.  He deserves the time away.

As far as recent anime vs. past anime, there's so much coming out now that it can be tough to separate out what's good from what's bad.  It really depends on your taste in stories.  Mine happens to go all over the place -- of currently running anime, I'm watching "The World God Only Knows," "Dog and Scissors," "High School DxD" (yeah, I know, "bouncing boobies" show, but it has some good action and for some reason it makes me laugh), "Dangan Ronpa," "Attack on Titan," "Hyperdimension Neptunia," "Fate/kalied Linear Prisma Illya," and "Brothers Conflict" (which I don't really like, but am watching so I can do recaps for a website I work for with my regular job). Show that I'm catching up on right now is "Fate/Zero" (after just finishing "Fate/Stay Night," and I recently read online that they might be doing another adaptation of it using the third path from the game). My all time favorites: "Evangelion" (because I've been Shinji at various points in my younger life) and "Puella Magi Madoka Magica."
 
2013-09-02 07:10:40 AM  
Actually the most over rated director in animation has to be Ralph Bakshi.
 
2013-09-02 08:14:28 AM  

fearmongert: sugahboy: fearmongert: BTW... does anyone know a good source to see the original Gatchaman (sp?) animated show? I have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, but none of them seem to have it upon searching...

 When I watched it, ( back in the eighties... /get off my lawn!!!), it was the American "Battle of The Planets/ G Force" cartoon, and I would rather see the original with subtitles

I seem to recall reading that one of the newer anime companies have acquired the license for it, and will be releasing a remastered version later this year.

And by it, I mean Gatchaman, not Battle of the Planets.

/haven't seen it on any streaming sites, have a whack of episodes on DVD from previous releases from now defunct studios
//Gatchaman Crowds started this summer, available on Crunchyroll, but don't expect it to show any resemblance to the original

Thanks, I know the Gatchaman version is very different from The Battle Of The Planets version, I heard it was a lot darker, and no 7zark7 , which was put in to appeal to the American audienc., I also understand that when they dubbed it into english, some things were lost in translation, particularly the reveal that the villain was a woman.. want to see the original... Thanks for the info, off to watch some of  Hayao's work


I double-checked on that Gatchaman re-release info (because it was bothering me), and it's Sentai Filmworks who've acquired the rights.

Happy viewing! If you're familiar with Lupin III, check out Castle of Cagliostro. Early Hayao Miyazaki with much of the team that would become Studio Ghibli.
 
2013-09-02 11:32:55 AM  
Up From Poppy Hill is on DVD.

awesome movie.
 
2013-09-02 02:28:21 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Cheater71: Speaking of anime, anyone know if either Children Who Chase Lost Voices or King Of Thorn are any good?

'Children Who Chase Lost Voices' was... weird.  I like Shinkai's works, usually, but that one is a little bizarre.  The animation style is clearly Ghibli (if I remember correctly he teamed up with Ghibli to make it and then they pulled out), but it's not as depressing as his stuff usually is.  It's worth a rental to watch, it's got some interesting stuff, but it comes off as jumbled and rehashed if you're familiar with some of Ghibli's other stuff, especially Princess Mononoke (one of the scenes is ripped directly from that movie).  Honestly, I'd go with '5cm per second' if you want to watch something by Shinkai, or 'Voices of a Distant Star' (it's only 20 minutes long but especially beautiful).


Thanks. I wasn't sure about that one.
 
2013-09-02 04:44:29 PM  
funnycatwallpapers.com

/not a troll
//feel he's overrated
///Spirited Away SUCKED.
 
2013-09-02 04:52:31 PM  

peterthx: [funnycatwallpapers.com image 680x453]

/not a troll
//feel he's overrated
///Spirited Away SUCKED.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-02 05:10:44 PM  

Captain Steroid: peterthx: [funnycatwallpapers.com image 680x453]

/not a troll
//feel he's overrated
///Spirited Away SUCKED.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 322x546]


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