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2013-09-01 04:07:35 PM
Don't take the brown acid.
 
2013-09-01 04:19:02 PM
So two people ruined it for everyone. Why not just say those two were idiots and continue with the show? Lawsuits?
 
2013-09-01 04:47:14 PM

Jeep2011: So two six people ruined it for everyone. Why not just say those two were idiots and continue with the show? Lawsuits?


Fixed FTFA, 2 dead 4 in ICU
 
2013-09-01 04:48:42 PM
Thanks, EDaMa
 
2013-09-01 04:57:19 PM
It seems a bit extreme to cancel the whole thing.  Aren't ODs pretty much par for the course for big music festivals, especially techno ones?
 
2013-09-01 04:59:47 PM
Good job Molly
 
2013-09-01 05:02:17 PM
Link

TuteTibiImperes: It seems a bit extreme to cancel the whole thing.  Aren't ODs pretty much par for the course for big music festivals, especially techno ones?


Link
 
2013-09-01 05:07:41 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It seems a bit extreme to cancel the whole thing.  Aren't ODs pretty much par for the course for big music festivals, especially techno ones?


There were maybe 1 or 2 techno DJs in that entire lineup.  Someone from Drumcode is all I remember.

These are mainstream "electronic dance music" festivals.

Jeep2011: So two people ruined it for everyone. Why not just say those two were idiots and continue with the show? Lawsuits?


Two people dead and 4 people in the hospital.  You can't really say they ruined it since the causes aren't known yet.
 
2013-09-01 05:07:46 PM
I wonder what bullshiat RC was actually in this "Molly." I am thinking one of the *NBOME series. I HATE to see deaths blamed on MDMA when it is pretty likely that there was something else involved.

/Reagent kits, kids.
 
2013-09-01 05:10:00 PM
On my knees, help me baby,
Tell me, what can I do -- electric zoo
 
2013-09-01 05:10:30 PM

Glitchwerks: TuteTibiImperes: It seems a bit extreme to cancel the whole thing.  Aren't ODs pretty much par for the course for big music festivals, especially techno ones?

There were maybe 1 or 2 techno DJs in that entire lineup.  Someone from Drumcode is all I remember.

These are mainstream "electronic dance music" festivals.

Jeep2011: So two people ruined it for everyone. Why not just say those two were idiots and continue with the show? Lawsuits?

Two people dead and 4 people in the hospital.  You can't really say they ruined it since the causes aren't known yet.


Ah, I get a bit confused with all of the electronica sub genres.  If someone told me 'electronic dance music festival' I'd get the mental picture 'outdoor rave' but I could be wrong.
 
2013-09-01 05:12:20 PM
Music festival dead 2:  Electric Zoogaloo
 
2013-09-01 05:22:53 PM

vogonity: I wonder what bullshiat RC was actually in this "Molly." I am thinking one of the *NBOME series. I HATE to see deaths blamed on MDMA when it is pretty likely that there was something else involved.

/Reagent kits, kids.


Obviously these kids were using chemical weapons on themselves.

Maybe Obama could send a couple of cruise missiles their way - He's pretty sure he has that authority.

At least they weren't smoking that filthy marijuana.
 
2013-09-01 05:24:33 PM
Since when do people OD on MDMA?
 
2013-09-01 05:26:39 PM
Municipalities have been all over these promoters to control the widespread drug use, but no matter what the promoters do, people continue to abuse the privilege. Every time this happens, it makes it harder for promoters to get approval for future events. And then concert-goers blame everyone except the assholes overdosing and ruining the fun for everyone else.
 
2013-09-01 05:27:21 PM
yeah, hardly a reason to close a festival.

Now shiatty, passionless electronic crap tunes?
THERE's a reason to close a festival.
 
2013-09-01 05:37:00 PM
I blame the FDA.

If ecstasy was regulated and legal then you could easily control the dosage and quality of the chemical in pills, people wouldn't be shy about seeking medical attention out of fear of cops, and information on recognizing OD symptoms early enough to help would be far more abundant.

It's a shame they had to shut down just because 2 people got some bad pills.
 
2013-09-01 05:40:26 PM

rzrwiresunrise: Since when do people OD on MDMA?


One of the side effects of MDMA is to induce Diabetes Insepidus in succeptable people
 
2013-09-01 05:41:28 PM

vogonity: I wonder what bullshiat RC was actually in this "Molly." I am thinking one of the *NBOME series. I HATE to see deaths blamed on MDMA when it is pretty likely that there was something else involved.

/Reagent kits, kids.


Exactly .... media jumping on the MDMA boogeyman bandwagon :(
 
2013-09-01 05:49:54 PM
Don't do drugs unless you are for sure you know what those drugs are. Jesus this needs to be taught to teenagers and people in their 20's more than that DARE bullshiat.
 
2013-09-01 06:02:31 PM

vogonity: I wonder what bullshiat RC was actually in this "Molly." I am thinking one of the *NBOME series. I HATE to see deaths blamed on MDMA when it is pretty likely that there was something else involved.

/Reagent kits, kids.


I've been taking drugs for ~35 years and your post means very little to me.
You think kids are going to do all the research on dope that you so obviously have done?
 
2013-09-01 06:13:17 PM
Both people who died overdosed on drugs, possibly MDMA

You can OD on MDMA? Wow. I've never heard of that before. I guess technically you can OD on water, but you don't hear about Ecstasy ODs very often.

Among the big names at this year's event were [New-to-me name], [New-to-me name] and [New-to-me name]. Scheduled to perform Sunday were DJs [Who?], [Never heard of that...guy?], [New-to-me name] and [Never heard of him].

Sounds like this cancellation is really going to bum out the ten people that bought tickets.
 
2013-09-01 06:15:08 PM

LewDux: Thanks, EDaMa


Now I want some edamame. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
 
2013-09-01 06:16:39 PM
Among the big names at this year's event were Avicii, David Guetta and Diplo. Scheduled to perform Sunday were DJs Armin Van Buuren, Sebastiona Ingrosso, Steve Aoki and Laidback Luke.

Well, there's your problem. They didn't die of drug overdose, they died from exposure to all that deplorably banal music.
 
2013-09-01 06:23:37 PM
Oh, are we supposed to stay alive when we're at raves now? I've been doing it wrong all these years then, I was under the impression that I should be dancing as though I was a skeleton perishing in a cruel sandstorm while losing my last breath of reality to an ocean of Prussian Blue and Sunflower Yellow mechanical flying imagined bugs all dancing on the same beat as myself.
There was something the following morning where I reconstituted myself but apart from that I think I was mostly dead.
 
2013-09-01 06:24:12 PM

rzrwiresunrise: Since when do people OD on MDMA?


All drugs of the methyl group are stimulants. They increase heart rate and blood pressure and it is not difficult to do too many of them and die from overheating/cardiac arrest. Happens all the time.
 
2013-09-01 06:27:53 PM

Ishkur: rzrwiresunrise: Since when do people OD on MDMA?

All drugs of the methyl group are stimulants. They increase heart rate and blood pressure and it is not difficult to do too many of them and die from overheating/cardiac arrest. Happens all the time.


MDMA has a nasty habit of inducing DI and causing Serotonin Syndrome.
 
2013-09-01 06:29:00 PM
Back in mah day, electric music went 'ding ding ding', not 'wuh wuh wuh'!
/crazy mixed-up kids and their AOL world wide webs
 
2013-09-01 06:43:28 PM
Ecstasy is dirty, nasty, stuff.

I don't know what the fark people are taking it for. Do they not have access to decent acid anymore?
 
2013-09-01 06:47:16 PM

doglover: I blame the FDA.

If ecstasy was regulated and legal then you could easily control the dosage and quality of the chemical in pills, people wouldn't be shy about seeking medical attention out of fear of cops, and information on recognizing OD symptoms early enough to help would be far more abundant.

It's a shame they had to shut down just because 2 people got some bad pills.


The 80s had plenty of drug company clean x and it was wonderful, hell you could buy it at night clubs in houston and my friends big brother would make the run there and haul a load back to New Orleans every couple of weeks.

He would sell us tabs at six bucks, and we each would by 6, eat two, and sell the other four for 20 apiece and have booze and pot money.
 
2013-09-01 06:48:05 PM
Something called electric zoo had drug overdoses? Who could have foreseen that?
 
2013-09-01 06:57:50 PM

doglover: I blame the FDA.

If ecstasy was regulated and legal then you could easily control the dosage and quality of the chemical in pills, people wouldn't be shy about seeking medical attention out of fear of cops, and information on recognizing OD symptoms early enough to help would be far more abundant.

It's a shame they had to shut down just because 2 people got some bad pills.


You can control the dosage and quality of chemical substances all you want, people will continue to abuse them and overdose.
 
2013-09-01 07:01:53 PM

A Terrible Human: Don't do drugs unless you are for sure you know what those drugs are. Jesus this needs to be taught to teenagers and people in their 20's more than that DARE bullshiat.


But don't you see that harm reduction something something CRIME something something IMMORAL something something OUR CHILDREN

/just like preaching abstinence over prophylaxis
 
2013-09-01 07:03:27 PM
Young people think they are indestructable.
 
2013-09-01 07:11:53 PM
I was there on Friday and there were more than 10 people :)

I'm pretty confident, judging on the dancing going on, that most people were rolling.

And it was an absurd amount of fun.
 
2013-09-01 07:39:16 PM

kwame: doglover: I blame the FDA.

If ecstasy was regulated and legal then you could easily control the dosage and quality of the chemical in pills, people wouldn't be shy about seeking medical attention out of fear of cops, and information on recognizing OD symptoms early enough to help would be far more abundant.

It's a shame they had to shut down just because 2 people got some bad pills.

You can control the dosage and quality of chemical substances all you want, people will continue to abuse them and overdose.


That's a great argument for unregulated black market drug production, kwame. You know what else? People are still gonna crash cars so let's just can that whole DMV thing and let anyone drive any vehicle with no training GTA style.
 
2013-09-01 07:39:37 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: You can OD on MDMA? Wow. I've never heard of that before. I guess technically you can OD on water, but you don't hear about Ecstasy ODs very often


Not so much a true overdose, I suspect, but more of people basically going into overheating or loss of body fluids when doing molly (which IS known to happen and CAN kill; as Hardinparamedic noted, MDMA can cause "diabetes insipidus" (which is NOT "my blood sugar is farked" diabetes, but instead is more of a "my antidiuretic hormone is not being produced enough and therefore I'm sweating and pissing like a Russian racehorse and losing all my electrolytes" sort of disorder) and it can cause some issues in thermoregulation.

Which is why at rave safety things they tell you "if you're going to indulge, carry a reagent kit to make sure you're not actually getting crystal meth or worse and drink LOTS of water and Gatorade".

/has my own suspicions that what was going around wasn't "molly" per se, but probably some OTHER drug passed off as "molly"
//and apparently this is a common enough thing that rave safety folks do recommend use of home reagent kits
///would not know personally--rave culture is not exactly strong around here
 
2013-09-01 08:00:39 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Fuggin Bizzy: You can OD on MDMA? Wow. I've never heard of that before. I guess technically you can OD on water, but you don't hear about Ecstasy ODs very often

Not so much a true overdose, I suspect, but more of people basically going into overheating or loss of body fluids when doing molly (which IS known to happen and CAN kill; as Hardinparamedic noted, MDMA can cause "diabetes insipidus" (which is NOT "my blood sugar is farked" diabetes, but instead is more of a "my antidiuretic hormone is not being produced enough and therefore I'm sweating and pissing like a Russian racehorse and losing all my electrolytes" sort of disorder) and it can cause some issues in thermoregulation.

Which is why at rave safety things they tell you "if you're going to indulge, carry a reagent kit to make sure you're not actually getting crystal meth or worse and drink LOTS of water and Gatorade".


You can end up drinking too much water. People on E have died from that, too. Though you have to drink stupid amounts. Common sense, people.
 
2013-09-01 08:12:32 PM

vogonity: I wonder what bullshiat RC was actually in this "Molly." I am thinking one of the *NBOME series. I HATE to see deaths blamed on MDMA when it is pretty likely that there was something else involved.


Looks like something bad is in a batch out there on the east coast.  Meanwhile up in Boston: http://www.universalhub.com/2013/three-more-possible-overdoses-concert
 
2013-09-01 08:41:21 PM
Just had some OD 's in Boston over the last week. There must be a bad batch going around.
 
2013-09-01 09:38:00 PM
One of the fatalities was a student at the university I work for...
 
2013-09-01 10:11:41 PM
Two ravers die from ingesting bad drugs....where's the problem?

/unless one of them was on the verge of curing cancer
 
2013-09-01 10:26:09 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Both people who died overdosed on drugs, possibly MDMA

You can OD on MDMA? Wow. I've never heard of that before. I guess technically you can OD on water, but you don't hear about Ecstasy ODs very often.

Among the big names at this year's event were [New-to-me name], [New-to-me name] and [New-to-me name]. Scheduled to perform Sunday were DJs [Who?], [Never heard of that...guy?], [New-to-me name] and [Never heard of him].

Sounds like this cancellation is really going to bum out the ten people that bought tickets.


EDM must not be your thing.  Armin van Buuren has been pretty famous within the genre for years, and Diplo is really damned popular of late.  You're certainly entitled to not like the music, nor care about its celebrities, but all this "Who?  What?  Never heard of him..." business people keep trotting out is really tiresome.
 
2013-09-01 10:31:56 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Ecstasy is dirty, nasty, stuff.

I don't know what the fark people are taking it for. Do they not have access to decent acid anymore?


No they dont unfortunatley.
on a side note mixing the 2 of them is a damn good time.
 
2013-09-01 10:53:10 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: J. Frank Parnell: Ecstasy is dirty, nasty, stuff.

I don't know what the fark people are taking it for. Do they not have access to decent acid anymore?

No they dont unfortunatley.
on a side note mixing the 2 of them is a damn good time.


in my day, 80s-early 90s we called it  "trolling" combo of tripping and rolling. we would do it and them smoke a fatty to go to sleep.  in the 90s they called it candy flipping, and since i was still getting high, we ate a roofie to chill out on the tail end.
 
2013-09-01 11:25:46 PM
Hmm, yeah.  I was around when E gave way to Molly being the drug of choice.  Not my scene but I was young and there.  I never really got why Molly was so hyped over E... yeah, supposedly "pure", but even then I saw people take it who were definitely something, but that something wasn't normal rolling.  Either way way way too high or far too low.

E was obviously cut with sh-t, but at least you could usually have a pretty damn good idea of what it was cut with thanks to whatever shape was pressed into the pill + a plethora of information online (and for awhile, at the damn raves).  And being in a pill form kinda made it harder for it to be cut and cut and cut as it passed through the drugs supply chain.

Anyway, we were getting older anyhow but my friends who did roll got over Molly pretty f--king quickly.  The resurgence (which I've got to witness via younger coworkers, ugh) isn't surprising but is still pretty stupid.  More so now than before with the ever increasing designer drug nonsense.  It's really kind of f--king hard to know what you're putting in your body, and if you're going to do drugs responsibly that should be step f--king one.

/Step 2 is to spend at least five minutes reading the Erowid page
 
2013-09-01 11:33:38 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: J. Frank Parnell: Ecstasy is dirty, nasty, stuff.

I don't know what the fark people are taking it for. Do they not have access to decent acid anymore?

No they dont unfortunatley.
on a side note mixing the 2 of them is a damn good time.


Oh, it's around.  You might have to be patient but it's around.  I've heard mushrooms are scarcer, which is pretty amazingly stupid since Lawns and The Forest are teeming with 'em this year.  Haven't heard of E proper in ages since the kids are all Molly (or a few designers).  Pot and edibles are incredibly plentiful.  Haven't heard of coke for ages, thank God.  Saw a friend go down a bad path that started with coke, and I've just never been into the 80s anyway.  Never knew of anyone who ever had meth or who admitted to doing it either, again, thank God.

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/the only raves I bother with are LIGHTSWITCH RAVES
 
2013-09-01 11:35:36 PM
 
2013-09-01 11:37:50 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: /Step 2 is to spend at least five minutes reading the Erowid page


This x 1000.  Education is far far better than this DARE bullshiat.
 
2013-09-02 12:10:58 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was around when E gave way to Molly being the drug of choice.


They're the same thing.

Ecstasy refers to the class of drugs in the methyl group called empathogens. There's something like 14 of them, the most famous ones being MDMA, MDA, MDBD and MDEA. They all have relatively similar effects with subtle differences -- some are more energetic while others are more euphoric. If you don't have a lot of experience with these drugs, then you're not going to be able to tell the difference.

The one everyone claims to love the most is MDMA. It's the most sensual/social; people LOVE to talk on it. It is not, however, the most preferred at raves -- that would be MDA which gives more of a body rush; good for dancing. In the 90s, it was typical for partykids to take MDMA for the lovey-dovey and chase it with crystal meth for the dancing.

Somehow over the past decade the term "Molly" emerged, most likely from the gay scene because gay kids always have feminine names for drugs (meth they call Tina... as in Crystina), but it is applied from a position of almost complete ignorance. From what I can understand, the term refers to MDMA exclusively although in truth when you buy a batch of e it is impossible to know what you're getting (most of the time you're getting a chemical cocktail of MDMA/MDA and meth anyway).

So when people claim they're getting, or taking, or they're on "Molly", especially if they're inexperienced with ecstasy, they usually don't know what they're talking about. The most common form of ecstasy is MDA; it's the most easy to get, and especially at parties, it's the one everyone is usually on.

Whenever there's an outbreak of ecstasy deaths (like what happened here), it's usually attributed to Para-Methoxyamphetamine or PMA (although I'll withhold judgment in this case until more info becomes available), which is frequently sold as e. It is an amphetamine but behaves nothing like the ecstasy group, and its odd effects (like a combo between a psychedelic and an anti-depressant) compels kids to take more when it doesn't work properly, and they overdose and die. PMA is nasty stuff.


/the more you know
//don't do drugs
///been partying for 20 years
////stay safe, kids
 
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