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(Daily Mail)   EU may require cars to read road signs and prevent drivers from exceeding speed limits. Suddenly spray painting a 3 into an 8 seems a lot more clever   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 35
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2013-09-01 12:01:24 PM
5 votes:

Somacandra: FTFA: It then deploys one of three controls to slow drivers: 'advice', in which the motorist is simply notified of the speed limit by an alarm, giving them the opportunity to slow down

I think this part of it might be a good idea..


No because if a system like this can be abused by the .gov, eventually it will be abused by the .gov

While the switch may start out in the 'advice' position, within a few years it will  be mandated to be in the ... er.'mandatory' position.

All 'for the children' of course.....
2013-09-01 12:08:45 PM
3 votes:
Can it also FORCE people to do the max speed in the left lane?
2013-09-01 11:27:51 AM
3 votes:
Ideas this bad? You deserve the consequences if you go through with it. Gimp all the cars and watch nobody drive a legal car ever again.
2013-09-01 03:39:46 PM
2 votes:
This is apparently a draft of a proposal and it will get shot down once presented.
2013-09-01 02:04:01 PM
2 votes:

sheep snorter: Ah Europe. Lets put a GPS unit in every vehicle(in transport trucks now) to charge a road toll via where you drive. But comes with some basic privacy laws to prevent scraping all that data.


Yes. Those who make & enforce the laws will always follow them, citizen. European governments would never spy on their own people.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
2013-09-01 01:57:11 PM
2 votes:
Ever notice how many car are involved in crashes in NASCAR restrictor plate races?

The ability to SPEED UP to avoid danger is pretty important.
2013-09-01 01:36:20 PM
2 votes:
I have an idea.  Let's point the camera at the driver to watch for texting/reading/internet browsing.  If phone use is detected, launch the dickhead out of the car via ejection seat.

mister aj: I think it's terrible that the government is infringing upon my right to break the law. Truly this is fascism in its most advanced stages.


Stop typing.  You should be using both hands to jerk the next two cops waiting in line, instead of just sucking them off one at a time.
2013-09-01 01:33:08 PM
2 votes:
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2013-09-01 01:22:38 PM
2 votes:
I think it's terrible that the government is infringing upon my right to break the law. Truly this is fascism in its most advanced stages.
2013-09-01 12:45:57 PM
2 votes:

Flint Ironstag: Marcus Aurelius: Dinki: Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.

We don't even have self-driving trains yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Last time I was on a train in Vancouver I sat right at the front, and I sure as hell wasn't driving...


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2013-09-01 12:09:24 PM
2 votes:
This will never take off in the US. Why? Because police departments around the country depend too much on the revenue from people who speed.
2013-09-01 11:59:29 AM
2 votes:

Dinki: Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.


We don't even have self-driving trains yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
2013-09-01 11:57:16 AM
2 votes:
This sounds completely retarded.
2013-09-01 11:47:29 AM
2 votes:
So the police in small towns would have to figure out a new way to shake down out of towners than a speed trap where it instantly drops from 55 to 35?  I wonder just how the police are going to spin this once they realize that they can no longer write speeding tickets if this goes through?

/ironically enough I was listening to Moving Pictures this morning & Red Barchetta was playing when I read this
//it would be kind of funny watching a place where the speed did drop 20mph instantly & watching all the cars slam on their brakes.  Can you sue the .gov for whiplash?
2013-09-01 11:31:44 AM
2 votes:
Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.
2013-09-01 07:07:41 PM
1 votes:

06Wahoo: freak7: I saw this coming 20 years ago and think it's a great idea.  Can't wait for it to be used in the USA.

Please tell me you are joking.  There have been a few instances where driving faster would be the only way to get out of a bad situation.  For example, if you are next to a truck that is trying to change lanes into you and the guy behind you isn't slowing down at all (either there is no lane next to you or there is a car there as well).  Speeding up may be the only way to avoid an accident.


Also, fires, tornadoes, floods, other disasters you might need to flee from. Emergency vehicle needs to get through. Animals, pedestrians, bicyclists on the road. Broken down cars. Debris. Merging and turning traffic. All those dinky side roads that ain't registered in a GPS unit. Backroads without maintenance and with potholes or ruts. I think decent drivers can do much better than any self-driving car currently made at avoiding all those random hazards.
2013-09-01 05:36:56 PM
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: Why is this not a good thing.

Think about the wonderful chaos that could be caused by a set of radio hackers around financial and government centers.  It couldn't last too long.

\My point is throwing around technology without understanding the downsides is not always a good thing and it would be very easy to prove.

Luddites exist for a reason, and some may actually understand technology.


I wouldn't be surprised if they tried using transponder systems similar to airplanes - makes it easier to track you as well.

Why would this not be good? Consider the part of the article where they mention braking control, for starters ...

hackers - having fun/profit at your expense
exotic/sports car market - gone!
if you're running late - you're late!
uncontrolled braking in extreme weather conditions
fines/revoking driving privileges if you attempt to disable the system

the government - by design or on a whim:
tracking you - and don't think they won't design this into the system!
shutting down all vehicles in a given area, under "emergency" circumstances
forcing everyone to drive slower to conserve fuel
charging you by the mile
... of course, they will get the privilege of driving as fast as they want ...
2013-09-01 04:06:16 PM
1 votes:
Why is this not a good thing.

Think about the wonderful chaos that could be caused by a set of radio hackers around financial and government centers.  It couldn't last too long.

\My point is throwing around technology without understanding the downsides is not always a good thing and it would be very easy to prove.

Luddites exist for a reason, and some may actually understand technology.
2013-09-01 03:39:14 PM
1 votes:

Dinki: Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.


Once the cars are driving themselves, there won't be any speed limits. The cars will adjust their speed to road and traffic conditions. The speed on superhighways will be quite a lot faster than today.
2013-09-01 03:07:57 PM
1 votes:

studs up: GORDON: mister aj: I think it's terrible that the government is infringing upon my right to break the law. Truly this is fascism in its most advanced stages.

Boot licker spotted.

I see statists everywhere. They don't even know they're statists...


They always proud of being sensible.
2013-09-01 03:02:03 PM
1 votes:
Instead of making smarter cars, why don't we make smarter drivers?

/Train the hell out of new drivers
//Bob Bondurant FTW!!!
2013-09-01 01:54:32 PM
1 votes:

freak7: flucto: I will revel in your frustration as you wait forever.

Keep thinking that.


You are getting all sorts of bites today. Commercial trolling is restricted in these waters.
2013-09-01 01:48:32 PM
1 votes:

freak7: Keep thinking that.


Excellent. Your misplaced optimism is already eating away at you.
2013-09-01 01:47:26 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: My GPS already reminds me when I'm more than 12 over the limit.  It's pretty nice except when the GPS has the wrong info for road speed.  What would be really nice is if the GPS would warn me ahead of time when the limit goes from 55 to 35 just outside some little rural town because they get pissed off when I cruise through at 64 mph.


Try downloading Waze on your phone, if your phone has GPS capability.
2013-09-01 01:43:32 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: We don't even have self-driving trains yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Lots of radio controlled Santa Fe diesels in the Alameda yard in SoCal.
2013-09-01 01:43:20 PM
1 votes:
My GPS already reminds me when I'm more than 12 over the limit.  It's pretty nice except when the GPS has the wrong info for road speed.  What would be really nice is if the GPS would warn me ahead of time when the limit goes from 55 to 35 just outside some little rural town because they get pissed off when I cruise through at 64 mph.
2013-09-01 01:30:23 PM
1 votes:

Dinki: Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.


If cars get smart enough to drive themselves and are connected to a network that manages traffic, we'll all be able to travel at speeds much higher than the current speed limits.

Somacandra: I think this part of it might be a good idea..


You can already set most GPS units to do this.

freak7: I saw this coming 20 years ago and think it's a great idea.  Can't wait for it to be used in the USA.


I saw something very much like this idea floated on a TV show over 20 years ago, and it didn't happen.  You're in for a long wait.
2013-09-01 01:21:25 PM
1 votes:
Ah Europe. Lets put a GPS unit in every vehicle(in transport trucks now) to charge a road toll via where you drive. But comes with some basic privacy laws to prevent scraping all that data.

In North America, lets put in a GPS unit for tolls and scrape the f*ck out of that data for profit and long term tracking by the police for that one time you chopped up that hooker who was already dead on the side of the road and the dent on your car came from them damn kids and their dog.

/Interesting fact: A proper enforcement on speed zone changes, results in the area 300 feet on either side of the speed change sign to be a non-enforceable zone.
//disclaimer: 'reasonable speed'(accelerate or decelerate zone). At the school zone sign, you'd better be at the slower speed instantly due to its short distance of slowness along with stupid young roadmeat who rely on signs to keep them safe instead of knowledge and opening their f*cking eyes for once.
2013-09-01 01:07:53 PM
1 votes:
Seems to me this would be easily defeated by a piece of tape that prevents it from seeing any speed limit signs.
2013-09-01 01:05:14 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Dinki: Once they perfect self driving cars this will be pretty standard.

We don't even have self-driving trains yet, so I wouldn't hold my breath.


Vancouver's automated Skytrain system begs to differ.
2013-09-01 01:04:51 PM
1 votes:
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2013-09-01 01:02:07 PM
1 votes:

Recoil Therapy: So the police in small towns would have to figure out a new way to shake down out of towners than a speed trap where it instantly drops from 55 to 35?  I wonder just how the police are going to spin this once they realize that they can no longer write speeding tickets if this goes through?

/ironically enough I was listening to Moving Pictures this morning & Red Barchetta was playing when I read this
//it would be kind of funny watching a place where the speed did drop 20mph instantly & watching all the cars slam on their brakes.  Can you sue the .gov for whiplash?


Once they can no longer bust people for pot possession and sell all their assets at auction, cops are going to be stepping up ticketing of speeders to make up for budget shortfalls.  And, their aint shiat you can do about it when municipalities make it more expensive to contest it in court than to just pay the ticket.

USA!
2013-09-01 01:00:43 PM
1 votes:

freak7: Can't wait for it to be used in the USA.


I will revel in your frustration as you wait forever.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-01 12:04:56 PM
1 votes:
There are already insurance companies that give a discount for putting a GPS monitor in your car that tells them how fast you drive.

One of the companies doesn't care how fast you drive. The tattletale box is telling them how hard you brake. Hard braking is more likely to mean "not paying attention to driving" than "likes to slow at the last moment on approach to a loop ramp."
2013-09-01 11:55:19 AM
1 votes:
FTFA: It then deploys one of three controls to slow drivers: 'advice', in which the motorist is simply notified of the speed limit by an alarm, giving them the opportunity to slow down

I think this part of it might be a good idea..
 
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