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(NPR)   Pastor preaching against vaccinations at megachurch, which is now the site of a measles outbreak: "So I'm going to tell you what the facts are and the facts are the facts but then we know the truth, that always overcomes facts"   (npr.org) divider line 354
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2013-09-02 01:23:45 PM  

gja: Stanford-Binet tests as ranked 1/x of population. I think you knew that, but chose instead to be snarky or obtuse. I have also been given Wechsler tests.

Morality and humane behavior, from whatever source, should be a welcome thing in this world. We should not be discouraging it merely because of an affiliation.


No I am not familiar with any standardized tests aside from the famous IQ test. I consider them to be measures of many things but never really representative of true intelligence. I am an engineer (turned IT professional) myself and I have to say that I know more than a few engineers that were good at passing tests but I am ashamed that they carry the degree. They are not stupid per se, but they cannot solve real problems which is the core of engineering.

As for the snark ... I found the use of "mm" as your units humorous as this is most commonly used as the unit for millimeters (hence my comment). A quick google search suggests it can be used for million but it is not a use I've seen before.

Personally I feel that morals are defined by society ... both in laws, which serve as the very base set, and in other 'codes' like "do unto others" and "pay it forward". There is little need to go beyond that, especially since they are fluid. Going a static, magic based source simple loses you credibility. Especially since that source condones things that are currently considered immoral like slavery.
 
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2013-09-02 02:08:41 PM  

Farking Canuck: gja: Stanford-Binet tests as ranked 1/x of population. I think you knew that, but chose instead to be snarky or obtuse. I have also been given Wechsler tests.

Morality and humane behavior, from whatever source, should be a welcome thing in this world. We should not be discouraging it merely because of an affiliation.

No I am not familiar with any standardized tests aside from the famous IQ test. I consider them to be measures of many things but never really representative of true intelligence. I am an engineer (turned IT professional) myself and I have to say that I know more than a few engineers that were good at passing tests but I am ashamed that they carry the degree. They are not stupid per se, but they cannot solve real problems which is the core of engineering.

As for the snark ... I found the use of "mm" as your units humorous as this is most commonly used as the unit for millimeters (hence my comment). A quick google search suggests it can be used for million but it is not a use I've seen before.

Personally I feel that morals are defined by society ... both in laws, which serve as the very base set, and in other 'codes' like "do unto others" and "pay it forward". There is little need to go beyond that, especially since they are fluid. Going a static, magic based source simple loses you credibility. Especially since that source condones things that are currently considered immoral like slavery.


Well, we agree on almost all points, then. And yes, I sadly work with many folks who could not engineer a fix to a torn paper bag. And yet, they have more degrees than a thermometer. I was average at the rote memory side of schooling, but the labs and practical application of principles were where I really was able to set myself apart. I am an engineer, I fix things. I give solutions to needs and problems. It is my passion. If people want to become one to get wealthy I advise them to not do so, choosing instead a money management career so they can screw it out of their clients. Much more efficient and engineering is a lot of work, in the end.

As for the use of "mm" for millions I sometimes let my Wall Street life invade in my language, and that is how "millions" is typically expressed in financial terminology.
Mea culpa, I thought that terminology more ubiquitous than it would appear to be.

Morals SHOULD be defined by society. I like to use my base beliefs as a good starting point but have never accepted blindly. We need to use judgement.
 
2013-09-02 04:13:31 PM  

gja: BTW, I am an engineer (EE, ME) with areas of study in light, near-light, laser and RF transmission.


That's awesome, but that doesn't require an especially gifted mind---at least, no more than specializing in accounting, or Cocoa development, or half of whatever people study in college.
 
2013-09-02 08:42:20 PM  

gja: all of us who identify as Christian


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gja: I identify as a man who most strongly leans toward Christian beliefs. That is: the teachings of the man who is thought to be Jesus.


Answer this:  do you believe Jesus Christ suffered and died for your sins, and do you take him as your personal savior? No semantics, no pedantry, just a simple yes or no.  There's no reason to "identify as Christian" because you're of the belief that people should generally be nice to each other.  It seems like you're being intentionally vague for the purpose of having an argument.

"Communicating badly and then acting smug when you're misunderstood is not cleverness."

gja: I have had this discussion in numerous other threads.


Sounds like you enjoy doing it, though.
 
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