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(Daily Mail)   'Wanna get your boyfriend to pop the question?' Here's the answer: A number of women across the country have listed their positive pregnancy tests for sale on Craigslist   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 86
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2013-09-01 04:29:42 AM  
7 votes:

Anthracite: I already saw this posted all over Facebook. So we were second to Reddit and now we are second to Facebook??

/Whats the world coming to?


Shut up.

The "I saw this already" police need to go.

its a NEWS AGGREGATOR.  everything has already been seen elsewhere.  its how it works.
2013-09-01 05:24:10 AM  
6 votes:

accelerus: this is why I'm 31 years old, employed, own my own home and car, and am 100% *SINGLE*

After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em...  I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Too bad too -- because I'm generally a nice guy, i.e. I don't do drugs, hit women, waste money, screw around.

Every now and then I'll get me a piece of 'tang and call it a day.  Much better off in the long run.


Nice guys usually don't have to point out that they are nice.
2013-09-01 04:02:58 AM  
6 votes:
I think it goes something like this:  Oops, birth control failed.  They quit using birth control for obvious reasons.  Girl actually gets pregnant.
2013-09-01 03:49:01 AM  
6 votes:
Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.
2013-09-01 03:48:47 AM  
6 votes:
A marriage induced by fraud can be unilaterally dissolved by request.  You go with that plan ladies.
2013-09-01 04:04:24 AM  
5 votes:
Wanna get your boyfriend to pop the question?

The question I would pop would be, "who else have you been farking" since I had a vasectomy.
2013-09-01 04:01:13 AM  
5 votes:

the_cnidarian: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.


In many (some?) states, if you do not object at the time the birth certificate is made, you are the father regardless of any paternity test in the future.  The test should be required by law before the birth certificate is issued.
2013-09-01 03:59:02 AM  
5 votes:

Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.


Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.
2013-09-01 10:00:15 AM  
4 votes:
As a woman, I find the idea of trapping a man to be bad and stupid. Why the fark do you want to marry someone if you have to trick them into it? That's definitely going to be a sad and shiatty marriage.

Quit making women look crazy and evil.
2013-09-01 07:28:17 AM  
4 votes:

robohobo: gulogulo: robohobo: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.

What percentage of pregnancies do you think fall into this category? How many women is too many?

Even one is too many. End of story.


Somehow I knew that tired trope was going to be marched out. Come on. That's a little crazy, don't you think? You are all cringing over some imagined boogeyman for something that is the exception rather than the rule.  Your wife sounds awesome by the way.  In fact, what she is doing is the definition of feminism, not man hating. It actually has never been about that.

To wit, I see the quandary. The fear of fathering someone else's offspring is deeply ingrained biologically in many animals. Yet there is no 'truth' in the reality you presume that it is widespread and growing. That is a construction of your fears, and fanned by the unique little community is on here of like minded individuals.  I abhor cheating, but in my eyes, to have that seed of distrust planted in the relationship early is going to be like a wound left to fester.  It does trouble me that the 'tone' of the arguments put forth on here seems to presume women to be some monolithic, even infantile, creature that does not come with individuality or personhood. That as offensive to me as the laws that assume the mother is the best option in custody, or that all men are potential rapists.
2013-09-01 06:08:53 AM  
4 votes:

croesius: johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.

Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.


In my experience - that's never how it happens.

I've never had a woman pass off another man's child as my own - but I've seen marriages and relationships fall apart.  I've been cheated on, and I've cheated too.  In all of the anecdotal experiences I've had or that I've been close to, the relationship *begins* with trust.  Honestly, far more trust that is deserved.  We assume the best, and given no evidence that our spouse is lying, we assume they are telling the truth.

What ends up happening, inevitably, because of that trust; it takes much longer to realize the trust is misplaced.  At which point, the relationship is much further along than it would be otherwise.

So, yeah, on one level, guys can acknowledge women cheat and sometimes pass off other men's children to their partner because it benefits them.  But, nearly all guys *do* trust their partner.  So they don't get the paternity test.

Now, the real kick in the teeth is our legal system.  So, as others have said, in many places, if you put your name on the birth certificate - the kid is yours by default.  And any additional information that comes to light is largely irrelevant.  On a personal level, my wife could lie to me and I could leave her.  That seems fair.  Screw her.  But once Uncle Sam is involved, it's different.  She can lie to me, and if I believe her, even for a short period of time, even at a very emotional time for a new parent - I'm on the hook, enforceable by the power of the US government, for 18 years.  *Maybe* if I'm lucky, and catch it early enough, and gather proof, and hire an expensive lawyer, I can undo that mistake.

But so long as the government is happy to garnish my wages and force me to raise a child (which they are), I can see why people would support mandatory paternity tests.  To phrase it in a 'happier' way - I believe that, at birth, you should have the option of establishing paternity.  If you don't establish who the Father is - then the Government will stay out of it.  If you do establish paternity, then the government will enforce the rights of the Father for the next 18 years.  A paternity test would be part of the process, if the Father is not the biological Father, the biological Father would need to sign away rights and the non-biological Father would be made aware.

If my wife trusts me, she'd trust that I'd support our family.  But if she wants to be sure I'll be legally obligated, we'd need to sign up, and that would include a paternity test.  Then everyone knows what they are getting into.

This will never happen, but I'd support it.
2013-09-01 05:29:11 AM  
4 votes:

pecosdave: accelerus: After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em... I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Sounds like you could have been a contributor to this book.  I'm in the process of reading it right now.  The book is full of stuff most of us guys should find pretty obvious, but should hopefully be eye opening to women getting upset that good guys are disappearing.



To be honest, the only women I see complaining that good guys are disappearing are the horrible, immature, selfish ones with completely unrealistic expectations. All of my female friends my age (early 30s) are in stable relationships with good, mature, reliable men who have decent jobs and treat them well.
2013-09-01 04:58:03 AM  
4 votes:
So, men are essentially targets, sperm donors and ATMs, now?  Oh, tee hee hee.  Enjoy your cats, housecoat and sh*tty job, ladies.
2013-09-01 04:54:25 AM  
4 votes:
this is why I'm 31 years old, employed, own my own home and car, and am 100% *SINGLE*

After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em...  I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Too bad too -- because I'm generally a nice guy, i.e. I don't do drugs, hit women, waste money, screw around.

Every now and then I'll get me a piece of 'tang and call it a day.  Much better off in the long run.
2013-09-01 04:19:07 AM  
4 votes:

robohobo: the_cnidarian: OgreMagi: the_cnidarian: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.

In many (some?) states, if you do not object at the time the birth certificate is made, you are the father regardless of any paternity test in the future.  The test should be required by law before the birth certificate is issued.

I don't know about that. I have a newborn son and was never asked anything, my wife did the paper work and *boom* he's mine. I agree that tests should be mandatory, however.

I have no doubts though, because Maury. Murray.

/ftfy


There was a case of some guy who was slapped with child support by the state.  The woman had picked his name out of the phone book.  Despite never having met the woman, he was forced to spend thousands of dollars in attorney fees fighting it, even after the woman admitted he wasn't the father.
2013-09-01 03:56:59 AM  
4 votes:

robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.


They should be required, but that's irrelevant to this particular type of deception, since these women are faking pregnancies.  You can't test a non-existence baby, and the lie becomes pretty obvious a few months down the road anyway, no test needed.
2013-09-01 03:56:18 AM  
4 votes:

Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.


Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.
2013-09-01 06:10:19 AM  
3 votes:
Trying to trap a man is like trying to teach a pig to sing.  It wastes your time, and it annoys the man ;)
2013-09-01 06:03:38 AM  
3 votes:
I predict the tide of this thread will turn once morning hits and the Fark 'feminists' hit the board,
2013-09-01 05:59:13 AM  
3 votes:

zzrhardy: croesius: johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.

Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.

Yeah. Because ignorance is grade A1 foundation material as well.


There's a wide chasm between trust and ignorance. Now, if the child shows up with a completely different ethnicity, well yeah, go get that test. But if the first thing you think of when your significant other lets you know she's pregnant is "Who else has this whore been bumpin' uglies with?" I just feel sorry for you.
2013-09-01 05:55:44 AM  
3 votes:

croesius: johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.

Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.


Yeah. Because ignorance is grade A1 foundation material as well.
2013-09-01 05:45:22 AM  
3 votes:

johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.


Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.
2013-09-01 05:09:02 AM  
3 votes:
Proverbs 21:9  "It's better to live in a corner on the roof than to share a house with a contentious woman."

Doubly so a con artist.

This is why men run like hell from commitment, ladies.  It's not "childish".  Treating a man like a child doesn't make him one.

It's self preservation.
2013-09-01 04:06:47 AM  
3 votes:

OgreMagi: the_cnidarian: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.

In many (some?) states, if you do not object at the time the birth certificate is made, you are the father regardless of any paternity test in the future.  The test should be required by law before the birth certificate is issued.


In Florida at least you don't even have to be on the birth certificate if you're married. Even if the father doesn't have anything to do with the birth, If the mother can prove you were married at the time of conception then that kid is yours as far as the state is concerned. I had a friend leave his wife when he found out she was pregnant with another guys kid. The state still slapped him with child support because they were married at the time, even though his ex-wife admitted the boy wasn't his.
2013-09-01 04:03:57 AM  
3 votes:

Emposter: A marriage induced by fraud can be unilaterally dissolved by request.  You go with that plan ladies.



These purchased test results could also be used to manipulate the actions and emotions of a current husband.

Showering his wife with affection at the good news and later gallantly escorting her through the tragedy of miscarriage.
2013-09-01 03:50:15 AM  
3 votes:
Not sure I believe the story.

If it is true, every woman involved should be sterilized with forced abortions for the ones selling the tests.
2013-09-01 12:49:05 PM  
2 votes:
phrawgh: Make them mandatory. Covers all the bases.

Absolutely.  Mandatory testing before any name gets filled in the Parent #2 box.  And the results of the paternity test must be disclosed BEFORE anyone acknowledges paternity.
2013-09-01 11:21:34 AM  
2 votes:

pecosdave: milkyshirt: As a woman, I find the idea of trapping a man to be bad and stupid. Why the fark do you want to marry someone if you have to trick them into it? That's definitely going to be a sad and shiatty marriage.

Quit making women look crazy and evil.

I like you.  Wish more women were like you.


There are more women like me, you just haven't been involved with them, or perhaps you broke it off for unrelated reasons.

I feel bad for you guys who've had a bad experience or can't seem to find a nice lady and have been put off from romantic relationships altogether. I get it, I haven't had a serious relationship since I divorced and I've liked it that way. I'm still open to the idea though, if I found someone I *really* liked.

Look at it this way. I've known a number of women who seem to draw nothing but assholes, morons, creeps, or psychos. Now, probably, if these are the only types you wind up dating, it's going to be because (1) there's something about you that attracts them, and/or (2) there's something about them that attracts you and makes you select them. If you can get to the root of that, you may have an easier time finding a female who will treat you right.
2013-09-01 09:25:55 AM  
2 votes:

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: It's idiotic to be barebacking a woman you have no plans on having kids with.


THIS. Your swimmers (and what they might become with the help of a homologous string of haploid DNA) are YOUR responsibility.
2013-09-01 07:56:03 AM  
2 votes:

OgreMagi: the_cnidarian: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.

In many (some?) states, if you do not object at the time the birth certificate is made, you are the father regardless of any paternity test in the future.  The test should be required by law before the birth certificate is issued.


hells yes paternity should be proven before certification. and that certification should carry financial responsibility. might cut down on a few babby daddy having 9 children with 4 different hos.
2013-09-01 07:21:28 AM  
2 votes:

sendtodave: robohobo: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.

Chimps do this. Most primates do, I believe.

While the alpha is making his rounds, some beta is farking his harem. He assumes the kids are his, of course.

You'd think that humans would be smart enough to assume otherwise.


Humans really don't exhibit true alpha-beta behavior as a species. Marriage really wouldn't exist if it did. Some men might like to think they are alphas, or whatever.


Reminds me of some theory that hormone based birth controls screw up how women select partners... Interesting theory, but....
2013-09-01 06:55:41 AM  
2 votes:

Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.


Make them mandatory. Covers all the bases.
2013-09-01 06:51:19 AM  
2 votes:

because I care: pecosdave: because I care: Maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe we, as a society, don't need so many people to get married and have children. Let the men have their video games and porn, and let these women have their Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey box sets and their bitterness. It's not like our species is going to die out of some people remain unmarried and (presumably) childless.

Incredibly good argument.

If we stop the wrong part of this - which is the discriminatory policies that are driving so many men to the basement so that those who don't want to take the path aren't forced and we just allow the momentum to go forward for those that do I could almost back this.

What discriminatory policies are these? I'm single by choice, but if I ever did find a girl I wanted to marry I can't think of any policies that would discourage me.


Automatic preference in divorce and child-related proceedings? Men are always considered guilty until proven possibly innocent while women of course can't possibly have done wrong.
2013-09-01 06:11:36 AM  
2 votes:

robohobo: I predict the tide of this thread will turn once morning hits and the Fark 'feminists' hit the board,


Feminism is like unionsim. The better things get the less reason they have to exist.

If feminists want to go to bat over the right to cuckold guys, then it is an admission they are no longer relevant (just like trade unions).
2013-09-01 06:01:24 AM  
2 votes:

because I care: the only women I see complaining that good guys are disappearing are the horrible, immature, selfish ones with completely unrealistic expectations


Unfortunately the percentage of the female population that fits this description is rising on an annual basis as they become indoctrinated by society at large.  There are many indoctrination programs and policies set by governments and school that make certain of it.  Certain women, either through good upbringing, higher intelligence or resistance to indoctrination are going to remain as "the good ones" but those will be less frequent as time passes unless not only do a significant number of people realize it's happening and decide to do something about it or there's some other breaking point.
2013-09-01 05:54:45 AM  
2 votes:
women, Do NOT try to trap a man.  It will make BOTH of you unhappy.  Trust me on this.  ;)
2013-09-01 05:27:22 AM  
2 votes:
Skip over all the leeches and retire at 40 guys.
2013-09-01 04:50:27 AM  
2 votes:

robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.


Paternity tests should be required at every birth.
2013-09-01 04:50:19 AM  
2 votes:

pecosdave: robohobo: My best friend had an ex who used this tactic for months, claiming to be pregnant. He was all kinds of excited, he loved her, was totally ready to raise kid, They got hitched. Couple months later she claimed to have an abortion, broke his heart. Came clean with the truth a few weeks later.

Since he was male and she wasn't I'll be there was no legal repercussion whatsoever, even if he filed for it.


He just let it go and divorced her. Never looked back. Now he has an innate distrust of women, and it's too bad. Best guy I know.
2013-09-01 04:29:17 AM  
2 votes:

sendtodave: robohobo: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.

Chimps do this. Most primates do, I believe.

While the alpha is making his rounds, some beta is farking his harem. He assumes the kids are his, of course.

You'd think that humans would be smart enough to assume otherwise.


Not just primates or even mammals. This has been observed in bullfrogs too. When the big boys are defending their territories and the females are getting all worked up, the little guys on the edge of the pond are fertilizing all the eggs. Of course they are likely to eat each other regardless of heritage. So there's that.
2013-09-01 04:07:26 AM  
2 votes:
Isn't that a biohazard that isn't appropriate to mail?

http://about.usps.com/publications/pub141/standard-prohibited-and-re st ricted-items.htm

Item 19 specifically
2013-09-01 04:01:55 AM  
2 votes:
People offering them for sale means nothing -- I can offer a paperback of The Da Vinci Code online for $1,000, but that doesn't mean anyone's going to buy it. I won't get really depressed unless there's actually a strong market for these things (a small part of that will be due to the fact that I threw all of my positive sticks away like a sane person instead of saving them to cash in).
2013-09-01 03:48:52 AM  
2 votes:
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Anthracite: I already saw this posted all over Facebook. So we were second to Reddit and now we are second to Facebook??

/Whats the world coming to?


Fark has been the last place news gets posted to for quite awhile now. I usually just come here for the discussion after reading the news elsewhere and it usually takes hours before the story pops up here.
2013-09-01 07:00:59 PM  
1 votes:

megarian: I'm "too young" to get my tubes tied...said FIVE doctors so far.


I had an 18 year old girlfriend who wanted a hysterectomy because of severe pain during sex.* But her case of  dyspareunia was thanks to endometriosis; it was never going to get better and it was never going away.  And thanks to her "family of origin" issues (i.e. a hyper controlling mother and a father who lobotomized himself whilst welding on a gas tank) she never under circumstances wanted kids. In fact every time she got drunk, she spent her time fighting with anyone around her telling them they'd be terrible parents. Needless to say at the age of 18 no doctor would give her the procedure.  Too much danger she might change her mind later and sue them to hell.

*The pain was so severe she hated intercourse that lasted more than a few minutes. Once during sex she bit me so hard on the neck I had bruises for a while and honestly I thought she broke something and was surprised I wasn't bleeding.  She said "I just wanted it to feel the same for you as it does for me." Needless to say we never had sex again (how could you, in good conscience) and broke up soon after.


I'm a bastard in the traditional sense - no father on my birth certificate and the guy my mother insisted was him said no way.  Believe me I would have given my eye teeth for a paternity test just to rule the hapless object of my mother's affections out.  Instead she spend the following years building some kind of alternate reality in her mind about how he was the one and some day he'd some to her.  When I was 12 or so our house caught on fire due to aged electrical wiring.  According to my mother, I had set all the love letters and photos of Mr. Right on fire for reasons unknown.  My aunts actually read the the "love letters" and they were hate mail from Mr. Right denying paternity.   So I was a convenient excuse to cover up lack of evidence and continue the story.  :facepalm:   I love my mother.  Only a monster doesn't love his mother.  But I don't necessarily like her.


I eventually found my real dad 45 years later after submitting a DNA sample to a family ancestry site.  What would have happened if my mother had been forced to admit then she was banging two dudes and it was the party of the first part and not the second who had fathered me?  I like to think really great things, my real father's been nothing but kind to me.    At least I wouldn't have had a lifetime of people accusing me of presenting a fake birth certificate every time they saw mine with a blank spot for father's name.  LOL.
2013-09-01 03:54:58 PM  
1 votes:

milkyshirt: As a woman, I find the idea of trapping a man to be bad and stupid. Why the fark do you want to marry someone if you have to trick them into it? That's definitely going to be a sad and shiatty marriage.

Quit making women look crazy and evil.


THIS.

I would rather be single than be with someone meh. I consider part of feminism being self-sufficient. My bf knows I don't need him to make my life work, I just really really want him.

I also don't get the "bf/gf is just a source of regular nookie" take on relationships thing. Sounds like a feck buddy to me. But if that's your view and it all seems too much trouble then maybe it is better if you do stay single. For everyone.
2013-09-01 03:39:21 PM  
1 votes:

fiddlehead: lack of warmth:

Um, if she is willing to fake the first test then she will fake the next ones too.  It wouldn't be hard to 'schedule appointments' with a doctor during his work schedule.  He comes home and she tells him lies about everything going well.

But how will she fake the other ones? Did she buy multiple tests on CL just in case? How will she dupe him if he buys another type of test himself? And if he is really concerned, then he should take time off work to go to the appointment. If he insists but she refuses then that's a huge warning flag. Hell, he could even call the dr and confirm the supposed appointment.


Forget it, he's rolling.

You have to realize that MRAs are right: they're hopeless and helpless and can't do anything for themselves or figure anything out on their own without some form of subsidy, oversight, and support from society. And women? It's like they're straight out of Disney movies - if they're not helpless waifs in need of rescue, then they're conniving and evil beyond comprehension. There is no middle ground. Anywhere. Ever hear of the UN's agenda 21? You might not think it's related, but  that's exactly what they want you to think. David Cameron, Barack Obama, Li Keqiang...all of them, they're all in on it. As were their predecessors. Why? Because fark nice guys, that's why. Women want a man to mistreat them and dominate them and generally make their lives harder. They do! Otherwise why would they consistently give nice guys like me the cold shoulder? I don't do drugs, hit women, waste money, screw around. But women never look twice at me because I'm too nice. Is that fair? Is that right? Women are crazy and evil, period. Never mind how we're making them "look." What can oppressed MRAs do in the face of such reckless hate?

/You'll never convince anyone of anything. May as well tell them what they want to hear.
2013-09-01 03:17:32 PM  
1 votes:
Much thanks to pecosdave for the TF! Now I can waste even more of my time lurking ;)
2013-09-01 12:18:59 PM  
1 votes:
Okay, let's step back from the flailing and straw feminism here and take a rational look at this approach.

Woman comes to boyfriend with a positive pregnancy test and thinks they should get married. Generally, the first ultrasound in pregnancy is at 8-10 weeks to confirm that the embryo is present and growing properly. So that's about 1 month past the positive test date. If the boyfriend is suspicious, why wouldn't he also go to this ultrasound appointment to confirm that there is an actual pregnancy? And who would really rush to get married in a month? Hell, if he was really concerned he could just ask her to take another test a week later. "Honey, sometimes these tests give false positives, can we take another to be sure?"

Nah, far better to believe that women are conniving biatches and men are too stupid to escape from their golddigging clutches.
2013-09-01 12:01:52 PM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: brainiac-dumdum: pecosdave: accelerus: After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em... I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Sounds like you could have been a contributor to this book.  I'm in the process of reading it right now.  The book is full of stuff most of us guys should find pretty obvious, but should hopefully be eye opening to women getting upset that good guys are disappearing.

Good guys are not disappearing, that's laughable. If you're a paranoid jackass, you're not a good guy. Simple as that.

And if you have to tell people that you're a good guy, chances are you're really not.


^this

I'M SUCH A NICE GUY! All these stupid biatches don't know what they're missing!
2013-09-01 11:56:12 AM  
1 votes:

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: robohobo: zzrhardy: robohobo: I predict the tide of this thread will turn once morning hits and the Fark 'feminists' hit the board,

Feminism is like unionsim. The better things get the less reason they have to exist.

If feminists want to go to bat over the right to cuckold guys, then it is an admission they are no longer relevant (just like trade unions).

My wife is very alpha. Considers herself a feminist. She's also a gifted surgeon. She often runs afoul of other self described feminists who insist on decrying her for sometimes making me dinner, or acquiescing to a request I make. It's very amusing. They don't seem to understand a woman can be a feminist yet still hold her husband in equal regard.

I'm pretty alpha, a director-level PI with a PhD, professionally. My marriage is a partnership regardless of sex, we take on tasks we're best suited for.

Anyway, guys, if you're dating a GF whom you are trusting to handle blocks to procreation but it turns out she has the need to take pregnancy tests --honestly or not -- then you need to wear a condom, get a vasectomy or stop farking her immediately.

It's idiotic to be barebacking a woman you have no plans on having kids with.


It's idiotic to be having sex with a partner that you don't trust for whatever reason. Don't people talk (using words) before jumping into the sack?
2013-09-01 11:53:50 AM  
1 votes:

pecosdave: accelerus: After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em... I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Sounds like you could have been a contributor to this book.  I'm in the process of reading it right now.  The book is full of stuff most of us guys should find pretty obvious, but should hopefully be eye opening to women getting upset that good guys are disappearing.


Good guys are not disappearing, that's laughable. If you're a paranoid jackass, you're not a good guy. Simple as that.
2013-09-01 11:29:37 AM  
1 votes:
Why isn't this illegal?

It's pretty much blackmail. Or extortion. Whatever. Should be illegal.
2013-09-01 10:50:12 AM  
1 votes:

because I care: Hmm. I know it's an oversimplification, but it seems to me that for a lot of women, marriage is the goal, and success is reached when they find a man who is "close enough" to their standards. Whereas for a lot of men marriage isn't necessarily the goal, but if they find the right woman, marriage suddenly becomes a desirable thing. As such, it's hard for me to imagine a man finding a woman he wants to marry, but choosing not to because of the aforementioned reasons. But obviously I'm wrong. And that's okay.

Anyway, I'm glad you found someone worth marrying. That's pretty cool.


People get married because there's something in it for them.

To oversimplify - historically a man got someone to have his kids, take care of the home, cook and do domestic things.  The woman got someone who would provide the means for her to do those things.  The home to live in, the food to eat, and of course a father for the kids.

Still to oversimplify - the man is still expected to do all the things he used to, but now he's expected to be just as in touch with all the domestic stuff as well and doing some if not all of it.  (In my first marriage I was expected to be the sole person responsible for every responsibility except for making decisions, making the money and every household duty.)  Now that women have equality it's up to them to determine how much responsibility and what task they'll take on.  I'll admit I was at the extreme end of things when I was married, but in the modern day secular marriage doesn't have a very good cost/benefit ratio for men.

This website has some pretty good insights.  I really liked the Rieko write up.
2013-09-01 09:48:20 AM  
1 votes:
continuing on the topic of where all the "good guys" and "good girls" are in the world.... for the most part I've seen that the social circle you are in during college, the girls you meet, screw, or get serious with .... that's where most of my friends met their spouse and started down the road to the family thing.

Now that's of course not the rule, it's just what I've seen a lot of. The easiest and best way to get a "good" woman on lock is to date her in college and keep it going afterwards as you both continue in your adult life. As someone who's degreed and experienced, it's hell right now trying to meet women who are around my age and in the same boat (being single, not wacked out on drugs or alcohol, financially responsible).  Most of the women my age are realizing how bad they screwed up their first marriage and are now saddled with a kid and a used up body.  Looking around desperately for a man to latch onto and help raise their mistakes.

 When I meet someone and hear they have a degree, I'm like "ohhh nice, potential!" and then 5 minutes later I find out she's divorced and has 2 kids.

Very few people understand that there are people that exist that are 100% fine to live out their lives without a serious mate and/or children.
2013-09-01 09:38:19 AM  
1 votes:

Mark Ratner: accelerus: this is why I'm 31 years old, employed, own my own home and car, and am 100% *SINGLE*

After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em...  I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.

Too bad too -- because I'm generally a nice guy, i.e. I don't do drugs, hit women, waste money, screw around.

Every now and then I'll get me a piece of 'tang and call it a day.  Much better off in the long run.

You sound kind of ugly.


Quite the opposite actually -- mostly what it is:  I'm lazy.  I'm some sort of sexual vampire that only comes out to feed maybe once every month or two. Don't get me wrong it was awesome when I had a serous g/f and could get my junk waxed on a daily basis, but in the long run it's sometimes not worth it.  I *really* like sitting around in my underwear, by myself, playing video games, or out shooting pool, or whatever.  Between work, and the house I just bought, I'm already neglecting my PC too much, a woman would suck away what precious little time I Have.
2013-09-01 09:22:08 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: zzrhardy: robohobo: I predict the tide of this thread will turn once morning hits and the Fark 'feminists' hit the board,

Feminism is like unionsim. The better things get the less reason they have to exist.

If feminists want to go to bat over the right to cuckold guys, then it is an admission they are no longer relevant (just like trade unions).

My wife is very alpha. Considers herself a feminist. She's also a gifted surgeon. She often runs afoul of other self described feminists who insist on decrying her for sometimes making me dinner, or acquiescing to a request I make. It's very amusing. They don't seem to understand a woman can be a feminist yet still hold her husband in equal regard.


I'm pretty alpha, a director-level PI with a PhD, professionally. My marriage is a partnership regardless of sex, we take on tasks we're best suited for.

Anyway, guys, if you're dating a GF whom you are trusting to handle blocks to procreation but it turns out she has the need to take pregnancy tests --honestly or not -- then you need to wear a condom, get a vasectomy or stop farking her immediately.

It's idiotic to be barebacking a woman you have no plans on having kids with.
msP
2013-09-01 09:19:40 AM  
1 votes:

blockhouse: Yet another problem that could be solved if people waited until marriage to have sex.


Yes, because of course no one who prescribes to your Christian way of thinking has ever done anything bad like be unfaithful to their partner after marriage.

/I hope you're a troll.
2013-09-01 09:02:21 AM  
1 votes:

Mazzic518:
yup.. used to come here for breaking news... not anymore


I know, right? When I want to know about how using Q-tips introduces ear mites into your brain, I want to know it now.

Oh yeah, that story hasn't made it here yet. Here, clean your ears while we're waiting.
2013-09-01 08:56:01 AM  
1 votes:
Yet another problem that could be solved if people waited until marriage to have sex.
2013-09-01 08:09:11 AM  
1 votes:
Came for the Craigslist vasectomy story. Had to do it myself.


 Vasectomy: $400. Speechless look on her face: priceless.I'll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:


I got a vasectomy.

I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.

I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.

We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.

Four months into dating, I get the "I'm pregnant" talk. She's going on and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married "for the baby". She's positively giddy. She has a baby in her and she thinks she's gonna have a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.

At this point, I'm just as giddy. I get to pull the reverse "oops" on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can't think beyond their own uteri.

So I wait a couple of days to "think about all this." I meet her again. I say I don't want kids and that she should have an abortion. I know where this is going and sure enough it goes there. She goes completely batshiat insane on me. There were the usual insults about my manhood. There were threats of legal action. It was all very ugly and I was loving every minute of it.

Well, I let her stew for a few days. She leaves me nasty messages on my phone. She sends awful emails. I'm laughing hysterically.

It was time to drop the hammer. While she was stewing I was busy. First I get a notarized copy from the urologist who performed the vasectomy. Next I get a notarized copy of the TWO test results indicating a "negative test result for sperm" to show I'm sterile and shooting blanks. Finally, I get a letter from a shark attorney stating he has seen the other documents and is prepared to litigate against this woman if she continues to communicate with me in such an unpleasant manner. Also, the letter states that we will insist on DNA testing to show that the baby is not mine. I'm ready.

I meet with this woman at her place. I bring flowers and a small bit of jewelry to show I am willing to reconcile and assume my responsibilities as a new father. I also have stuck in my pocket the documents I have prepared.

She's all giddy again. Her plan is going perfectly - or so she thinks. We talk about our future. We have some pretty good sex. Then, as I am about to walk out the door, I ask her the $64,000 question. "Are you sure that this baby is mine?"

Well, she goes batshiat insane again. Hell, she ought to. Her plan could completely unravel if there is ANY question about my paternity. Oh, she's really screaming now. How dare I question her morals. Do I think she's a slut. I'm just trying to weasel out of my responsibilities... blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I'm not really mad. I'm kind of embarrassed for her. But since she won't shut up and the neighbors can hear all of this, I ask her to step back inside and sit down. She sits on the sofa and calms down a bit. She is glaring at me with all the moral self-righteousness that only a woman can muster up. She thinks she has me trapped. She is 100% convinced her plan has worked. Oh, the tangled web of lies and deceit she has wrought around herself and I am about to hack through them with a few pieces of paper.

I reach into my pocket slowly. I extract the three pieces of paper and unfold them slowly and deliberately.

I tell her simply, "You're screwed".

Her look doesn't change. There is no way she can fathom what I have prepared.

I continue. "I am sterile"

Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women's logic. "You're full of shiat. You're trapped and you know it."

I hold up the letter and the test results. "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy. Here is a notarized letter from him stating what I had done. Here are two test results showing that I tested negative for the presence of sperm. Blanks. I am shooting blanks. That baby inside you is simply not mine."

This woman is not to be swayed by logic and clear documentation. "Bullshiat, those are fakes."

I was ready for that. "No, they are real. This last piece of paper is from my attorney. It's a simple letter to you that states if you pursue any kind of legal action against me for child support that I will insist on a DNA test to prove paternity, that is, to prove that your baby is not mine."

I give the woman all the documents. She reads them slowly, deliberately. With each passing second she can feel in her soul that she has made a very bad mistake. With denial swept away, she started to cry. It's a small cry at first. Then it becomes deeper and more painful. By the time she gets to the letter from the lawyer she is sobbing.

I had no sympathy for her. I turned and walked out the door. Even after I closed the door I could still hear her sobbing.

Epilogue -

I never heard directly from this woman again. I did hear through my friends that she did indeed have the baby. I also heard that the real father was some guy in a band she had met. I assumed that after 30, women stopped going after musicians, bikers, criminals, and thugs. Silly me for thinking the best of American women.

The Moral of the Story -

Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.
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2013-09-01 08:08:35 AM  
1 votes:
I'lltry to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:
I got a vasectomy.
I met a girlsoon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at thetime and I could practically HEAR her biologicalclock ticking. Regardless,she was a good lay, easy on theeyes, and reasonably good company.
I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that thecondom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.
We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but shebrought it up ocassionally. For me,this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that shewas planning very carefully.
Four monthsinto dating, I getthe "I'm pregnant" talk. She's goingon and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married "for thebaby". She's positively giddy. She has a baby inher and she thinks she's gonnahave a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.
At this point, I'm just as giddy. I get to pullthe reverse "oops" on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can't thinkbeyond their own uteri.
So I wait a coupleof days to "think about all this." I meet her again. I say I don't want kids and that she shouldhave an abortion. I know where this is goingand sure enough it goes there. She goes completely bat**** insane on me. There were theusual insults about my manhood. There were threats of legal action. It was all very ugly and I was loving every minute of it.
Well, I let her stew for a few days. She leaves me nasty messageson my phone. She sends awful emails. I'm laughing hysterically.
It was time to drop thehammer. While she was stewing I was busy. First I get a notarized copy from the urologist who performed the vasectomy. Next I geta notarized copy of theTWO test results indicatinga "negative test result for sperm" to showI'm sterile and shootingblanks. Finally, I get a letter from a shark attorney stating he has seen theother documentsand is prepared to litigateagainst this woman if she continuesto communicate with me in such an unpleasant manner. Also, the letter states that we will insiston DNA testing to showthat thebaby is not mine. I'm ready.
I meet with this woman at her place. I bring flowers and a small bit of jewelry to show I am willing to reconcile and assume my responsibilitiesas a new father. I also have stuck in my pocket thedocuments I have prepared.
She's all giddy again. Her plan is goingperfectly - or so shethinks. We talk about our future. We have some pretty good sex. Then, as I am about to walk out the door, I ask her the $64,000 question. "Are you sure that this baby is mine?"
Well, shegoes bat**** insane again. Hell, she ought to. Her plan could completely unravel if there is ANY question about my paternity. Oh, she's really screaming now. How dare I question her morals. Do I thinkshe's a slut. I'm just trying to weasel out of my responsibilities... blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.
I'm not really mad. I'm kind of embarrassed for her. But since she won't shut up and theneighbors can hear all of this, I ask her to step back inside and sit down. She sitson thesofa and calms down a bit. She is glaring at me with all the moral self-righteousness that only a woman can muster up. She thinks she has me trapped. She is 100% convinced her plan has worked. Oh, the tangled web of lies and deceit shehas wrought around herself and I am about to hack through them with a few pieces of paper.
I reach into my pocketslowly. I extract the three pieces of paper and unfold them slowly and deliberately.
I tell her simply, "You're screwed".
Her look doesn't change. There is no way shecan fathom what I have prepared.
I continue. "I am sterile"
Her look changes just a bit. Somethingis beginning to sink in. Naturally, shereverts to women's logic. "You're full of ****. You're trapped and you know it."
I hold up theletter and the test results. "Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy. Here is a notarized letter from him stating what I had done. Here are two test results showingthat I tested negative for the presence of sperm. Blanks. I am shootingblanks. That baby inside you is simply not mine."
This woman is not to be swayed by logic and clear documentation. "Bull****, those are fakes."
I was ready for that. "No, they are real. This last piece of paper is from my attorney. It's a simple letter to you that states if you pursue any kind of legal action against me for child support that I will insiston a DNA test to prove paternity, that is, to prove that your baby is not mine."
I give thewoman all thedocuments. She reads them slowly, deliberately. With each passing second she can feelin her soul that she has made a very bad mistake. With denial swept away, shestarted to cry. It's a small cry at first. Then it becomes deeper and more painful. By the time she gets to the letter from the lawyer she is sobbing.
I had no sympathy for her. I turned and walked out the door. Even after I closed the door I could still hear her sobbing.

The Moral of the Story -
Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.
2013-09-01 08:07:53 AM  
1 votes:
I knew a couple that got married after she claimed to be pregnant. 12 months later she had a baby.
2013-09-01 07:58:40 AM  
1 votes:

OgreMagi: Wanna get your boyfriend to pop the question?

The question I would pop would be, "who else have you been farking" since I had a vasectomy.


Yep. Got one a few days after I turned 18. People only find out on a need to know basis (you Farkers don't' count), and if it isn't a chick I'm dating that's claiming to be pregnant, there's no need to know. Only had to use it once but the look on her face was PRICELESS.

/yeah I learned not to stick it in crazy
//maybe
2013-09-01 07:39:50 AM  
1 votes:

zzrhardy: If you want to search for it, the term is delicated described as a "non paternity event" in studies. It is commonly quoted at around 10% but varies wildly. The "spikes" generally occur in those cases where the guy thinks he is being duped.


You really should read your own article.  It says the very next line that it is an over estimate and more likely right around 3% (median).  You have to remember the statistics without how big that cohort is does not tell a complete picture.  Are the spikes due to a cohort of say 20 people who were already worried about paternity? or 2000?  Those are very different pictures. I'm not advocating for "non paternity events'.
2013-09-01 07:39:07 AM  
1 votes:

croesius: johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.

Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.


Why not look at it the other way?

Why would a faithful wife feel that a paternity test is any way impugning her honesty? After all, if she's done nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about.

Only one of the two partners is risking being deceived and forced to pay for a child that isn't theirs. Why shouldn't that issue be addressed as a matter of course? Nobody who has done the right thing would be inconvenienced in any way by compulsory paternity testing.
2013-09-01 07:31:46 AM  
1 votes:

because I care: pecosdave: because I care: What discriminatory policies are these? I'm single by choice, but if I ever did find a girl I wanted to marry I can't think of any policies that would discourage me.

robohobo covered a lot of it for me.  It's not just divorce though, colleges have a lot of horrible programs and the entire educational system has been regeared to favor girls.

But do men actually cite these things as reasons to not get married? I don't mean just in the abstract; are there men who would otherwise marry a specific woman, but refuse to do so because of these reasons?

/I do think that divorce and child support laws could stand to be updated if we as a society truly want things to be 'equal'


No-- but I married late... something about 'free milk.' And seeing a lot of friends divorcing or hating married life.
2013-09-01 07:26:04 AM  
1 votes:

johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.


the divorce rate would explode
2013-09-01 07:09:23 AM  
1 votes:

gulogulo: robohobo: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.

What percentage of pregnancies do you think fall into this category? How many women is too many?


Even one is too many. End of story.
2013-09-01 07:03:14 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: and don't you dare


And that is precisely the juncture at which I tell whoever is selling that K-Mart authority pose, man or woman, to go take a flying f*ck at a rolling doughnut.  If your movement needs my nose up it's ass to be a success, your movement is f*cked 8 ways from last week. Respect is an earned commodity.  You don't put a quarter in, press a button and kick the machine if it doesn't fall out.
2013-09-01 07:01:30 AM  
1 votes:

because I care: What discriminatory policies are these? I'm single by choice, but if I ever did find a girl I wanted to marry I can't think of any policies that would discourage me.


robohobo covered a lot of it for me.  It's not just divorce though, colleges have a lot of horrible programs and the entire educational system has been regeared to favor girls.
2013-09-01 06:58:16 AM  
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: the_cnidarian: Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.

If they were already married, I suspect most husbands wouldn't actually care.  Genetic material isn't actually particularly important at this phase of human development, aside from screening for diseases.

I mean, the 'screening for disease' part is going to become essentially obligatory within a decade as the cost shrinks to effectively nothing in the context of the normal costs of a pregnancy, given the huge savings that kind of advance screening gives you over your lifetime.  So sort of coincidentally paternity is going to pretty much be automatically tested by 2020 or so for anyone that knows their own risk factors (do the baby's roughly match some combination of your risk factors and your wife's?  No?  It's not yours).

But if people or society really cared about paternity in itself, we'd already automatically screen, parental matching is like a 5$ agar plate and 10 minutes of an intern's time with a piece of equipment less complex than a car battery.  It doesn't happen because we don't care.  Men have already decided to raise a kid with their spouse or not, society's sole interest is that a given kid be raised by more than one person.  That's about the limit of it.


I'd argue most men choose to trust their partner. Nothing wrong with that. Combined with the who jezebel.com movement where women blah blah blah and don't you dare question or have a problem with the movement bullshiat. Just bouncing around in google, 3/10th of British men are raising batstard who aren't theirs.This isn't just wrong, it's farked up on so many levels.
2013-09-01 06:37:13 AM  
1 votes:

because I care: Maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe we, as a society, don't need so many people to get married and have children. Let the men have their video games and porn, and let these women have their Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey box sets and their bitterness. It's not like our species is going to die out of some people remain unmarried and (presumably) childless.


Incredibly good argument.

If we stop the wrong part of this - which is the discriminatory policies that are driving so many men to the basement so that those who don't want to take the path aren't forced and we just allow the momentum to go forward for those that do I could almost back this.
2013-09-01 06:31:36 AM  
1 votes:

pecosdave: because I care: the only women I see complaining that good guys are disappearing are the horrible, immature, selfish ones with completely unrealistic expectations

Unfortunately the percentage of the female population that fits this description is rising on an annual basis as they become indoctrinated by society at large.  There are many indoctrination programs and policies set by governments and school that make certain of it.  Certain women, either through good upbringing, higher intelligence or resistance to indoctrination are going to remain as "the good ones" but those will be less frequent as time passes unless not only do a significant number of people realize it's happening and decide to do something about it or there's some other breaking point.



Maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe we, as a society, don't need so many people to get married and have children. Let the men have their video games and porn, and let these women have their Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey box sets and their bitterness. It's not like our species is going to die out of some people remain unmarried and (presumably) childless.
2013-09-01 06:19:02 AM  
1 votes:

zzrhardy: robohobo: I predict the tide of this thread will turn once morning hits and the Fark 'feminists' hit the board,

Feminism is like unionsim. The better things get the less reason they have to exist.

If feminists want to go to bat over the right to cuckold guys, then it is an admission they are no longer relevant (just like trade unions).


My wife is very alpha. Considers herself a feminist. She's also a gifted surgeon. She often runs afoul of other self described feminists who insist on decrying her for sometimes making me dinner, or acquiescing to a request I make. It's very amusing. They don't seem to understand a woman can be a feminist yet still hold her husband in equal regard.
2013-09-01 05:55:19 AM  
1 votes:

croesius: johncb76006: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

Paternity tests should be required at every birth.

Man, I'd hate to mistrust my wife so much I felt I needed a paternity test, no offense to you all who feel like you would need one. Seems like that isn't a very strong foundation on which to build a future, let alone a family.


It's an unfortunate thing, but a reality.
2013-09-01 05:53:30 AM  
1 votes:
Oh HELL NO!!!!  DNA tests are less expensive than divorce payments and/or child support. ;)
2013-09-01 04:58:49 AM  
1 votes:

accelerus: After a few times of getting screwed over by the opposite sex... fark em... I refuse to waste my time/money/energy on a woman who has a high chance of doing crap like this.


Sounds like you could have been a contributor to this book.  I'm in the process of reading it right now.  The book is full of stuff most of us guys should find pretty obvious, but should hopefully be eye opening to women getting upset that good guys are disappearing.
2013-09-01 04:48:11 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: My best friend had an ex who used this tactic for months, claiming to be pregnant. He was all kinds of excited, he loved her, was totally ready to raise kid, They got hitched. Couple months later she claimed to have an abortion, broke his heart. Came clean with the truth a few weeks later.


Since he was male and she wasn't I'll be there was no legal repercussion whatsoever, even if he filed for it.
2013-09-01 04:32:08 AM  
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I sound fat: Anthracite: I already saw this posted all over Facebook. So we were second to Reddit and now we are second to Facebook??

/Whats the world coming to?

Shut up.

The "I saw this already" police need to go.

its a NEWS AGGREGATOR.  everything has already been seen elsewhere.  its how it works.


I saw this argument already, somewhere else.
2013-09-01 04:21:53 AM  
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robohobo: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Then offer them quietly. Perhaps write it into insurance requirements. Too many women tricking their poor husbands into raising someone else's bastard.


Chimps do this. Most primates do, I believe.

While the alpha is making his rounds, some beta is farking his harem. He assumes the kids are his, of course.

You'd think that humans would be smart enough to assume otherwise.
2013-09-01 04:18:02 AM  
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Esroc: .Anthracite: I already saw this posted all over Facebook. So we were second to Reddit and now we are second to Facebook??

/Whats the world coming to?

Fark has been the last place news gets posted to for quite awhile now. I usually just come here for the discussion after reading the news elsewhere and it usually takes hours before the story pops up here.


Hours, you say! My word.

I remember when news was nightly. Or sometimes even weekly.
2013-09-01 04:05:03 AM  
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Admiral_Halsey: I think it goes something like this:  Oops, birth control failed.  They quit using birth control for obvious reasons.  Girl actually gets pregnant.


That's why there needs to be a BC pill/shot for men.
2013-09-01 04:02:41 AM  
1 votes:

Emposter: A marriage induced by fraud can be unilaterally dissolved by request.  You go with that plan ladies.


the_cnidarian: Esroc: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

 If offered then most husbands/wives will refuse it as to not risk pissing off their significant other. And they're pretty easy to get if you really do want one.

Translation: If the husband is offered a paternity test when the wife is present, he will firmly refuse to avoid conflict.

Reality: if the man has the chance to confirm the child is his without conflict, he will take it.


Odds are, I wouldn't need the marriage dissolved...

the body is another story.
2013-09-01 03:59:21 AM  
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Emposter: robohobo: Paternity tests should be offered at every birth. Seriously.

They should be required, but that's irrelevant to this particular type of deception, since these women are faking pregnancies.  You can't test a non-existence baby, and the lie becomes pretty obvious a few months down the road anyway, no test needed.


I know, I was just taking it a step further.

My best friend had an ex who used this tactic for months, claiming to be pregnant. He was all kinds of excited, he loved her, was totally ready to raise  kid, They got hitched. Couple months later she claimed to have an abortion, broke his heart. Came clean with the truth a few weeks later.

She was crazy, though.
2013-09-01 03:49:23 AM  
1 votes:
Girls will be girls :)
2013-09-01 03:41:01 AM  
1 votes:
I already saw this posted all over Facebook. So we were second to Reddit and now we are second to Facebook??

/Whats the world coming to?
 
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