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(TMZ)   Judge approves long-term psychiatric hold and conservatorship for Amanda Bynes. Let us hope we don't see her name in the news again for a very, very long time   (tmz.com) divider line 88
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2013-08-31 01:09:39 PM  
I really hope she gets better.  Mental illness sucks.
 
2013-08-31 01:16:21 PM  
Good for her.
 
2013-08-31 01:42:18 PM  
Well, now if the enablers stay away and the paparazzi cut her some slack, she just might be okay.
 
2013-08-31 01:46:34 PM  

basemetal: Well, now if the enablers stay away and the paparazzi cut her some slack, she just might be okay.


From TFA: A photo agency sold TMZ a picture of a woman they claimed was Amanda leaving a Thousand Oaks facility in a blue wig.

One of those things you mentioned just isn't going to happen.
 
2013-08-31 01:46:53 PM  
Good.

Sorry, assholes.  You'll have to find a different mentally disturbed celebrity to make fun of for a while.
 
2013-08-31 01:54:41 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Good.

Sorry, assholes.  You'll have to find a different mentally disturbed celebrity to make fun of for a while.


This.  This wasn't "attention whoring" to be mocked, this really did look and sound like the onset of schizophrenia.

I've been through this with people I've known in real life.  Luckily, they weren't "celebrities" so they didn't end up being mocked by assholes on the Interrnet.
 
2013-08-31 02:01:11 PM  
best of luck to her.
 
2013-08-31 02:04:02 PM  
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2013-08-31 02:05:37 PM  
It's skitzo. That stuff never gets better.
Tough luck.
 
2013-08-31 02:07:50 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Good.

Sorry, assholes.  You'll have to find a different mentally disturbed celebrity to make fun of for a while.


Isn't that redundant?
 
2013-08-31 02:10:37 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Lionel Mandrake: Good.

Sorry, assholes.  You'll have to find a different mentally disturbed celebrity to make fun of for a while.

Isn't that redundant?


No.  But I will admit that I have always considered the desire for fame to be nucking futs.  And I've never seen anything to suggest otherwise.  Fortune I understand, but fame would be Hell.
 
2013-08-31 02:10:48 PM  
If Britney can come back, she can too.
 
2013-08-31 02:11:27 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Lionel Mandrake: Good.

Sorry, assholes.  You'll have to find a different mentally disturbed celebrity to make fun of for a while.

Isn't that redundant?


it sounds like you're laboring under the misconception that one must strive for celebrity to be affected by it.
 
2013-08-31 02:17:15 PM  
My father is a schizophrenic alcoholic who also happens to be a genius.  He holds a masters in Journalism, a phd in law, and a phd in philosophy.

But his illness and his alcohol addiction make him a toxic person no one can be around for long but he refuses to get help.

2 years ago he was found in his home wearing a diaper covered in shiat, with no utilities on, with a shiat ton of garbage in the place and two dogs running wild. This was in a condo my family owned.

The city came in and declared the place unfit and we had to pay a hazmat team to clean it up, and they went in and basically burned everything and then purged the place.

I had to send a letter with a power of attorney to my cousin so he could have him entered into a psychiatric clinic.

He was out in two weeks.  He talked himself out it.  I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.  I asked where he went to medical school because I was going to go there and get a degree in about three days if it was that easy.  Living in a condo with no electricity or water covered in shiat does not even come close to sanity.

I tried to take care of him for two years and I could not handle it, it took a toll emotionally and physically.

He is back to "normal" for him now, not taking his meds, working in a law practice(he lost his shingle) but he advises his partners.

What I learned, get the fark away from crazy.
 
2013-08-31 02:21:23 PM  
Who?
 
2013-08-31 02:23:39 PM  
In all seriousness, I hope she gets better.
 
2013-08-31 02:33:20 PM  
It's a shame that you have to be a celebrity in order to get proper psychiatric care in this country.
 
2013-08-31 02:41:34 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: It's skitzo. That stuff never gets better.
Tough luck.


Schizophrenia is never cured, but once people hit middle age symptoms often improve somewhat. people also develop good coping skills by then
 
2013-08-31 03:10:15 PM  
Always liked her. Hope for the best.
 
2013-08-31 03:30:15 PM  

theflatline: And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.


removed from responsibility, clever crazy people can appear surprisingly sane - especially when they are crazy smart to being with.
 
2013-08-31 03:44:57 PM  
Ok, good for her and hopefully she gets the help she needs.

Now, seriously, if the judges can order that kind of shiat, why the fark hasn't Lohan been slapped with it, considering she's actually been breaking laws and violating probation all the farking time?!

Put em both in a big padded room and toss the key. And feed the paparazzi to the incinerators.
 
2013-08-31 03:46:12 PM  

dforkus: HotIgneous Intruder: It's skitzo. That stuff never gets better.
Tough luck.

Schizophrenia is never cured, but once people hit middle age symptoms often improve somewhat. people also develop good coping skills by then


My ex (50 y/o) has beeen struggling with it for years. She just went episodic and ended up in a parking lot surrounded by 7 police cruisers. I suppose she stopped taking her meds. But yeah, sometimes it improves with age, sometimes not. This happened on Monday but she's now back at home. I saw her last week and she doesn't even remember talking to me.
 
2013-08-31 03:47:51 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: If Britney can come back, she can too.


She came back wrong though.  You should read some of the things people who have worked with her have to say.  She tries to steal cell phones because she isn't allowed one.   She is not allowed to talk to anyone without a minder.  They pay off the paps that get shots of her doing crazy shiat to keep her new image bankable.  They are just using her for money while she is virtually imprisoned and not receiving actual help.
 
2013-08-31 03:49:27 PM  
Funny how this attention whore was perfectly sane until the attention stopped coming.
 
2013-08-31 03:51:41 PM  
It would be... nice... if TMZ learned... the proper way... to use... ellipsis.
 
2013-08-31 03:51:55 PM  
That's all well and good, but tell me how we're going to fertilize this year's corn crop?
 
2013-08-31 03:55:49 PM  

houstondragon: Ok, good for her and hopefully she gets the help she needs.

Now, seriously, if the judges can order that kind of shiat, why the fark hasn't Lohan been slapped with it, considering she's actually been breaking laws and violating probation all the farking time?!

Put em both in a big padded room and toss the key. And feed the paparazzi to the incinerators.


I realize your question is probably not a serious inquiry, but I'll answer anyways. Lohan has some obviously serious substance abuse problems and possibly an underlying personality disorder, but breaking the law does not automatically get a mentally ill person locked up in a psychiatric facility and certainly not for a mandatory hold. From what I have read about Bynes in the past few months, she was regularly exhibiting straight up obvious psychotic behavior and was very clearly suffering from some serious delusions that she tried to treat by self medicating on various drugs, unlike Lohan. The only delusion Lindsey Lohan suffers from is that anyone still gives a shiat about her and her acting career.

/Glad to see Bynes getting some help
// Crisis worker who regularly inters people for mandatory holds
/// Slashies in 3's
 
2013-08-31 04:04:43 PM  

frepnog: theflatline: And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

removed from responsibility, clever crazy people can appear surprisingly sane - especially when they are crazy smart to being with.


Agreed.  His grandmother, my grandmother was brilliant. First degree at 16, and then went to law school in Colombia(the country) when women were not allowed to vote, and became a supreme court judge there.  Pops was her only son and she sent him to the US to study when he was six, and felt in later years that she abandoned him, so she coddled him her entire life.

He had money and assets, a brain, and a name, in Colombia that let him live like a playboy, on my grandmothers dime.

Sometimes I wonder if those who have fame, cash, wherewithall, and a golden ticket, who later become crazy, monsters in life, is it really mental illness or that they really never had the chance to develop through the proverbial school of hard knocks?

Things have always come to me extremely easy in life because I did inherit his intelligence and her ability to read people, but in my younger years it made me lazy, much like the tale of the grasshopper and the ant, but the reality is I got to see where I was headed by observing him and changed my ways.
 
2013-08-31 04:13:57 PM  

theflatline: frepnog: theflatline: And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

removed from responsibility, clever crazy people can appear surprisingly sane - especially when they are crazy smart to being with.

Agreed.  His grandmother, my grandmother was brilliant. First degree at 16, and then went to law school in Colombia(the country) when women were not allowed to vote, and became a supreme court judge there.  Pops was her only son and she sent him to the US to study when he was six, and felt in later years that she abandoned him, so she coddled him her entire life.

He had money and assets, a brain, and a name, in Colombia that let him live like a playboy, on my grandmothers dime.

Sometimes I wonder if those who have fame, cash, wherewithall, and a golden ticket, who later become crazy, monsters in life, is it really mental illness or that they really never had the chance to develop through the proverbial school of hard knocks?

Things have always come to me extremely easy in life because I did inherit his intelligence and her ability to read people, but in my younger years it made me lazy, much like the tale of the grasshopper and the ant, but the reality is I got to see where I was headed by observing him and changed my ways.


Nah, even poor, ungifted people can be lazy and self destructive. Just because one leads a charmed life does not necessarily mean they are more likely to flounder, be mentally ill, or become "crazy monsters" than us regulars. There may very well be some correlation between achievement level and SES, (we all know those kids who remain unmotivated, mooching, losers forever because they have been handed everything in life and never had to work for a thing), but it can easily go the other way. Regular people can also fall into the trap of being shiftless bums, we're just less likely to hear about them than a famous, rich, crazy person.

Also, good on you for not wasting your gift and getting your act together! Not everyone is able to escape that trap
 
2013-08-31 04:54:08 PM  

theflatline: Living in a condo with no electricity or water covered in shiat does not even come close to sanity.


Don't judge me.
 
2013-08-31 04:54:22 PM  

theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.


This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing
 
2013-08-31 05:08:07 PM  
According to another article, neither her parents or her attorney can make any major decisions about her finances or other things without consulting each other and the judge. Her publicist sounds like someone upset that his paycheck is being cut but otherwise the parents, judge, and her attorney do seem to be working together in her best interests.
 
2013-08-31 05:11:32 PM  

catmandu: According to another article, neither her parents or her attorney can make any major decisions about her finances or other things without consulting each other and the judge. Her publicist sounds like someone upset that his paycheck is being cut but otherwise the parents, judge, and her attorney do seem to be working together in her best interests.


What? A young actress' parents give a damn if their child is in peril? Say it ain't so!

//she has what Lindsay should have, but will likely never get
/hats off to Amanda's folks
 
2013-08-31 05:20:01 PM  
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Hope she gets better treatment than Frances Farmer, but I doubt it.
 
2013-08-31 05:22:35 PM  

raptusregaliter: theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing


Thanks, I tell you if you look at pics of me when I went to Colombia to take care of him, I was hale and hearty, two years later I looked as if I walked out of a concentration camp.  My then girlfriend now wife had doctor come to the house to tell me I needed to GTFO

This is me when I arrived.

i635.photobucket.com

This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.

sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net

me two years after getting the hell out.

sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-08-31 05:27:52 PM  

theflatline: raptusregaliter: theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing

Thanks, I tell you if you look at pics of me when I went to Colombia to take care of him, I was hale and hearty, two years later I looked as if I walked out of a concentration camp.  My then girlfriend now wife had doctor come to the house to tell me I needed to GTFO

This is me when I arrived.

[i635.photobucket.com image 450x600]

This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

me two years after getting the hell out.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x640]


Wow, that's really bad.  Good on you for trying to help as much as you could though.
 
2013-08-31 05:46:02 PM  
With Amanda and Lindsay out of the news , it's nice to see Miley stepping up.
 
2013-08-31 05:53:31 PM  

Klippoklondike: theflatline: raptusregaliter: theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing

Thanks, I tell you if you look at pics of me when I went to Colombia to take care of him, I was hale and hearty, two years later I looked as if I walked out of a concentration camp.  My then girlfriend now wife had doctor come to the house to tell me I needed to GTFO

This is me when I arrived.

[i635.photobucket.com image 450x600]

This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

me two years after getting the hell out.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x640]

Wow, that's really bad.  Good on you for trying to help as much as you could though.


My wife is a saint, she went through hell watching me go to hell in a handbasket, and made me realize my life with her was more important than me trying to be a "good" egg.  She saved me from myself.
 
2013-08-31 06:00:32 PM  

theflatline: This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.


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2013-08-31 06:05:04 PM  

theflatline: He is back to "normal" for him now, not taking his meds, working in a law practice(he lost his shingle) but he advises his partners.


The most common reason people relapse and end up back in the hospital is because they stop taking their meds. The insidious thing is that after the immediate withdrawal symptoms you may feel OK for awhile but in a few months all hell will break loose.
 
2013-08-31 06:08:26 PM  

Pentaxian: theflatline: He is back to "normal" for him now, not taking his meds, working in a law practice(he lost his shingle) but he advises his partners.

The most common reason people relapse and end up back in the hospital is because they stop taking their meds. The insidious thing is that after the immediate withdrawal symptoms you may feel OK for awhile but in a few months all hell will break loose.


My grandmother gave her life to caring for him for about 60 years, and I had to make the decision I was not going to do that.

As crazy as he is, he knows what he does, and so I just gave up.
 
2013-08-31 06:14:44 PM  
And? If she isn't twerking then who gives a shiat?
 
2013-08-31 06:18:19 PM  
I hope she gets the help she needs and is able to stick with it. What with this and Lindsay Lohan seeming like she's genuinely trying to get her shiat together, I'm only left with Justin Bieber. He's still just an unrepentant douchebag, right? I can still hate on Justin Bieber, can't I?

/Oh, and the Kardashians.
//DON'T TAKE THEM ALL AWAY FROM ME!!!
 
2013-08-31 06:24:28 PM  
Mental illnesses are the cruellest diseases.

People are afraid of the victims. There is relatively little help available. When help is found, it may have limits, or later be denied. The recent ADA decision that a service dog to help someone with a mental illness wasn't needed because mental illnesses do not qualify as disabilities is a good example of this.
 
2013-08-31 06:24:41 PM  

theflatline: Klippoklondike: theflatline: raptusregaliter: theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing

Thanks, I tell you if you look at pics of me when I went to Colombia to take care of him, I was hale and hearty, two years later I looked as if I walked out of a concentration camp.  My then girlfriend now wife had doctor come to the house to tell me I needed to GTFO

This is me when I arrived.

[i635.photobucket.com image 450x600]

This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

me two years after getting the hell out.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x640]

Wow, that's really bad.  Good on you for trying to help as much as you could though.

My wife is a saint, she went through hell watching me go to hell in a handbasket, and made me realize my life with her was more important than me trying to be a "good" egg.  She saved me from myself.


Wow. If I ever bump into you in the real world, I need to buy you a drink or 9,000.
 
2013-08-31 07:14:32 PM  

theflatline: raptusregaliter: theflatline: He was out in two weeks. He talked himself out it. I called the doctor and said WTF? And the doctor said he was the sanest, most brilliant person he had ever met.

This was my brother about ten years ago. My dad and another brother had worked so hard to get older brother into a guardianship so that he could be off the streets and get better care, but he talked his way out of it, just like your dad.

The phrase my parents kept hearing when they made the same WTF phone call you did was, "He's so articulate!" That word - "articulate" - became a cuss word, said with not a little bitterness.

Also, he had the health care professionals bamboozled into thinking that he was a decorated Vietnam vet with more than one tour, too, and he wasn't, not by a long shot. If any of these so called professionals possessed a brain in their skulls, they'd have known it by looking at his birth date. He was too young for that; he was barely 18 and still in high school when it ended. Isn't it amazing how dumb these people are?

The whole episode broke my dad's heart. He went to his grave essentially mourning his eldest son.

Today, guess who is back on the streets? And there's not a thing any of us can do about it either. You have my sympathy.

//mental illness is such an insidious thing

Thanks, I tell you if you look at pics of me when I went to Colombia to take care of him, I was hale and hearty, two years later I looked as if I walked out of a concentration camp.  My then girlfriend now wife had doctor come to the house to tell me I needed to GTFO

This is me when I arrived.

[i635.photobucket.com image 450x600]

This is me after two years of dealing with crazy.  Wife at my side.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

me two years after getting the hell out.

[sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x640]


As someone that has dealt with my own mental health issues (bipolar disorder) I can say I understand a lot better why my wife cut her losses and left after seeing your pictures.  It's truly amazing how much these things effect loved ones.  You look good now, be proud of yourself.
 
2013-08-31 08:11:47 PM  

Klippoklondike: I really hope she gets better.  Mental illness sucks.


^ this. Very very very much this.

Had a cousin who was homeless with schizophrenia. His sisters tried everything. Fortunately when he was dying the hospital contacted them, and they were able to spend a good two weeks with him before he passed away. One of their biggest fears had been that he would die on the streets and no one would know what happened.

There was no way of getting him forcibly medicated over time. It's very hard to get a conservatorship, and to force someone to take medication. I understand the concerns about such laws, and the fact that they could be horrifically abused. I've struggled with clinical depression with my PMDD, and just that alone impacted my ability to think rationally and in the best interest of myself. I was fortunate I had a friend who cared & was involved with getting me to doctors and that I was willing to listen. I also know about the fallacy that when you feel better, you think you're all better. That hasn't really impacted me at all, but I know it does a lot of people who have mental health problems.

I just wish we had a NHS and better care for people overall. It's shameful that we don't in the US, with as much as we have.
 
2013-08-31 08:35:01 PM  
If they are smart, the facility is not in Southern California.
 
2013-08-31 08:41:37 PM  
my first wife, when I was 20years old.

not knowing any better and trying to be the rock.

I was truely in love.....

Im 39 now and am about 1/2 way into fixing all the damage that relationship caused.

Not bitter, not blaming, I had a lot of parts to play in it all as well. But schitzo shiat is some life destroying nonsense, for all parties involved.


last I heard from her, she found someone to breed with. That she was able to breed was because of finding Jesus, and had nothing at all to do with getting off all the meds because JESUS! And not because all her lady bits starting to work again because she was off the meds.


then I saw her again at the free clinic seven years later.. shaking like a leaf and am damn glad she ddidn't notice me.
 
2013-08-31 09:36:06 PM  
... so her twitter made one little tweet a while ago.

I hope to God it's hackers.
 
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