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(CNN)   16-year-old girl dies in joyride with 18-year-old behind the wheel. Oh, did I say 16 and 18? I meant 6 and 8   (cnn.com) divider line 50
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2013-08-31 07:53:44 AM
Geez...
 
2013-08-31 07:58:21 AM
Should've listened to her Barbie: "Driving is hard."
 
2013-08-31 08:05:28 AM
I'll check back on this thread tomorrow to see how many zippy quips people can come up with.

And then go check out another thread about a soldier coming home and  surprising his dog, and it getting all "dusty" in there.
 
2013-08-31 08:06:28 AM
So getting a Sad tag instead of a Dumbass tag is dependent on the age of the victims?
 
2013-08-31 08:10:41 AM

GreenSun: So getting a Sad tag instead of a Dumbass tag is dependent on the age of the victims?


Well, shouldn't it be?

//was driving a straight and slinging gravel by 10
 
2013-08-31 08:10:55 AM
I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.
 
2013-08-31 08:29:59 AM
Welp, that was a horrible story.
 
2013-08-31 08:33:39 AM
self correcting problem.
 
2013-08-31 08:42:47 AM
sad. my son and daughter had close to the same experience. only they didn't start the car. but they did roll backwards down the driveway (we lived on a very steep hill) and just as the car reached the road the wheels cut and instead of running off a huge embankment and into a tree it miraculously went down the road a little bit and up into the neighbor's driveway and stopped. I was at work, it was the wife's car and somehow they got her keys out of her purse. she thought they were playing outside as normal. looked out the window just as the car took off and saw it all.
 
2013-08-31 08:44:03 AM

Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.


why would the cops feel guilty? it's not like they ran them into the pole.
 
2013-08-31 08:45:08 AM

GreenSun: So getting a Sad tag instead of a Dumbass tag is dependent on the age of the victims?


yes but you earned a dumbass tag for that question.
 
2013-08-31 08:50:23 AM

Hobodeluxe: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

why would the cops feel guilty? it's not like they ran them into the pole.


The cops thought they were being kidnapped. I can only guess what they tried to do to make them pull over.

If the cops hadn't tried to "pull them over", the kid probably wouldn't have driven to the pole.
 
2013-08-31 08:52:09 AM

Hobodeluxe: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

why would the cops feel guilty? it's not like they ran them into the pole.


You're right, but I'm sure they'll still be questioning themselves and wondering if they could have done something different. Doesn't sound like they could have though, even if they had known.
 
2013-08-31 08:54:07 AM
I'm going fast!
 
2013-08-31 08:55:44 AM

Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.


Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.
 
2013-08-31 09:00:05 AM

mr0x: Hobodeluxe: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

why would the cops feel guilty? it's not like they ran them into the pole.

The cops thought they were being kidnapped. I can only guess what they tried to do to make them pull over.

If the cops hadn't tried to "pull them over", the kid probably wouldn't have driven to the pole.


yeah but you don't know that. they could have just as easily ran through an intersection and both been killed along with others.
 
2013-08-31 09:02:36 AM
Roxette inconsolable.
 
2013-08-31 09:24:24 AM

Saul T. Balzac: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.


Maybe the kid shouldn't have done that in the first place. Both had been put to bed and then snuck out.
 
2013-08-31 09:24:53 AM
Was the kid smoking with cigarrettes, too?
 
2013-08-31 09:27:13 AM
Sounds like a good excuse to ban more guns
 
2013-08-31 09:40:44 AM

SCUBA_Archer: Sounds like a good excuse to ban more guns


or abortions, or gay marriages, or black voters
 
2013-08-31 09:41:21 AM
www.troll.me

It's funny because a little girl died?
 
2013-08-31 09:41:26 AM
One of those news stories I wish I hadn't read.
 
2013-08-31 09:51:27 AM
At that age, my brother and I made a brick "toilet" in the middle of the living room rug.  Then my brother sat on it a took a dump.
tl;dr Eight-year-olds lack judgment.
 
2013-08-31 09:53:22 AM
8 year olds, Dude,
 
2013-08-31 10:07:24 AM

Saul T. Balzac: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.


And how angry the mother is going to feel not only with the boy but at herself for feeling angry with the boy.
 
2013-08-31 10:16:41 AM

Saul T. Balzac: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.


I did mention that...the last few sentences of my post.

There's nothing wrong with feeling sorry for the cops at the scene.
 
2013-08-31 10:27:41 AM

author1701: Saul T. Balzac: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.

And how angry the mother is going to feel not only with the boy but at herself for feeling angry with the boy.


or angry at herself for not doing any number of things that might have kept this from happening. she will second guess everything. not putting the keys up, not locking the door,not having the emergency brake on any and every thing she could imagine to do she will beat herself up about. poor thing.
 
2013-08-31 10:38:23 AM
\aisle seat, please.
 
2013-08-31 10:39:33 AM
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Let's try that again.
 
2013-08-31 10:41:07 AM

haolegirl: Geez...


This.
 
2013-08-31 10:56:12 AM
What kind of 8 year old sneaks out at night and even remotely thinks about taking Mom's car?

I have an eight year old and an eleven year old who was eight...devious behavior for "normal" eight year olds is trying to sneak a cookie or their Nintendo DS...WTF?
 
2013-08-31 10:57:55 AM

Nick Nostril: Welp, that was a horrible story.


Yup, I wish I could unread that.
 
2013-08-31 10:58:29 AM
Which way to go?

"Hang on lady we going for a ride."

"I dunno, hoodrat shiat."(video of that fat 8yo that stole his grandma's car)
 
2013-08-31 11:56:22 AM
Crashed less than a block from the house. I'm guessing the kid drove around the block, or up and down the street, something like that.

I guess the only thing to do now is to hope that this boy really, really hated his sister.
 
2013-08-31 12:15:31 PM
Terrible story but even worse thoughts on my part.

Everyone is getting sued on this one. The car manufacturer for the air bag not going off, the police for trying to stop them...the city for employing the police.
 
2013-08-31 12:51:28 PM
Dad's gonna be furious when he gets home.
 
2013-08-31 01:42:05 PM
For the safety of the children, the automatic transmission must be banned.

All these needless deaths could be prevented by a simple mechanical clutch. With a manual transmission these kids would have never left the driveway.

How many deaths must this infernal device be responsible for before the good people of this country ban it?
 
2013-08-31 01:51:34 PM

Piizzadude: Everyone is getting sued on this one. The car manufacturer for the air bag not going off, the police for trying to stop them...the city for employing the police.


North american standard airbags will kill an unbelted six year old girl. Because our regulators can't admit they were wrong and the engineers at the car manufacturers were right all along (the big three figured this out by the mid 1970s) the resulting revised standard is weight sensor on the seats that turns off the airbags if the person sitting there is not heavy enough. The airbags themselves remain designed to stop the movement of an unbelted 50th percentile male.
 
2013-08-31 02:04:53 PM

leadmetal: For the safety of the children, the automatic transmission must be banned.

All these needless deaths could be prevented by a simple mechanical clutch. With a manual transmission these kids would have never left the driveway.

How many deaths must this infernal device be responsible for before the good people of this country ban it?


Hah. It won't help. I managed to start and get a car in gear at the age of 5. Unfortunately for my mother and the friend she was visiting it was drive and not reverse. I serenely motored through the open garage and living room wall to stop parked squarely over the coffee table.

You don't make a pit stop and spend hours gabbing with your girlfriend after you tell a five year old we're going to the hospital to remove your tonsils and you can have all ice cream you want afterwards.
 
2013-08-31 03:43:41 PM
Clearly these murder machines need to be regulated!
 
2013-08-31 03:56:53 PM

technofiend: leadmetal: For the safety of the children, the automatic transmission must be banned.

All these needless deaths could be prevented by a simple mechanical clutch. With a manual transmission these kids would have never left the driveway.

How many deaths must this infernal device be responsible for before the good people of this country ban it?

Hah. It won't help. I managed to start and get a car in gear at the age of 5. Unfortunately for my mother and the friend she was visiting it was drive and not reverse. I serenely motored through the open garage and living room wall to stop parked squarely over the coffee table.

You don't make a pit stop and spend hours gabbing with your girlfriend after you tell a five year old we're going to the hospital to remove your tonsils and you can have all ice cream you want afterwards.


I'm possibly laughing way too hard at that scenario, imagining an impatient kid wanting to hurry up and get his tonsils removed to the point he says "fark it" and drives himself.
 
2013-08-31 03:59:00 PM

Hobodeluxe: author1701: Saul T. Balzac: Peepeye: I can't imagine the guilt the cops feel. They thought they were pulling over a kidnapper. But that's nothing compared to the little boy. It may not fully sink in now....but it will as he ages. Especially if he has children of his own someday.

Yeah, let's feel sorry for the cops instead of the grieving family.

/just imagine how guilty that 8 year old boy is going to feel for the rest of his life.

And how angry the mother is going to feel not only with the boy but at herself for feeling angry with the boy.

or angry at herself for not doing any number of things that might have kept this from happening. she will second guess everything. not putting the keys up, not locking the door,not having the emergency brake on any and every thing she could imagine to do she will beat herself up about. poor thing.


Yes, this is just awful -- one of those things where nobody did anything really wrong and the results were still the worst imaginable. Eight is a bit on the older side for that kind of total lack of thinking ahead, but I can still picture it in a less mature kid, especially if the little boy really loved cars -- he probably just thought he was taking his sister for a fun ride and their mother would never find out.

(Stuff my eight-year-old has done has included trying to sneak out of the house at 11 PM for a late-night playdate at the park, planned with the kids next door -- all they were thinking was that it would be fun to have the park all to themselves, not so much about what other characters might hang around the park that late. He also tried to cut his baby sister's hair to match his own, thereby having to pay for the repair cut out of his allowance. Even a reasonable and intelligent eight-year-old will sometimes burst out with a completely crazy idea that makes total sense to them because they're not thinking 4 seconds ahead).
 
2013-08-31 04:06:25 PM

FedExPope: technofiend: leadmetal: For the safety of the children, the automatic transmission must be banned.

All these needless deaths could be prevented by a simple mechanical clutch. With a manual transmission these kids would have never left the driveway.

How many deaths must this infernal device be responsible for before the good people of this country ban it?

Hah. It won't help. I managed to start and get a car in gear at the age of 5. Unfortunately for my mother and the friend she was visiting it was drive and not reverse. I serenely motored through the open garage and living room wall to stop parked squarely over the coffee table.

You don't make a pit stop and spend hours gabbing with your girlfriend after you tell a five year old we're going to the hospital to remove your tonsils and you can have all ice cream you want afterwards.

I'm possibly laughing way too hard at that scenario, imagining an impatient kid wanting to hurry up and get his tonsils removed to the point he says "fark it" and drives himself.


It makes a good story as an adult. As a kid I was terrified of shots after getting double pneumonia and spending time in an oxygen tent, which included being woken regularly for injections. No idea why they would not give me an IV but there you go. So she must have *really* sold the ice cream thing to get me to agree and even be anxious about it. Her own damn fault.
 
2013-08-31 05:10:55 PM

leadmetal: For the safety of the children, the automatic transmission must be banned.


Maybe, as another failsafe, parents can always use their parking brakes, even when they're parked in their garages, driveways, etc.  At least in my car, it's hard to move if the parking brake is engaged.
 
2013-08-31 05:13:27 PM

leadmetal: The airbags themselves remain designed to stop the movement of an unbelted 50th percentile male.



Why is the 50th percentile male chosen, instead of 50th percentile person, or 50th percentile adult?

\weighs less than the 50th percentile for a male
 
2013-08-31 08:38:57 PM

technofiend: Hah. It won't help. I managed to start and get a car in gear at the age of 5.


There's no 'drive' on an manual transmission. MT cars since 1989 have had a clutch interlock to prevent starting with the car in gear. Old cars can start with the transmission in gear. I've done it. (clutch linkage lost a cotter pin and fell out, did it to drive back to where it fell out. Found it, put it back in)
 
2013-08-31 08:43:28 PM

Saul T. Balzac: leadmetal: The airbags themselves remain designed to stop the movement of an unbelted 50th percentile male.


Why is the 50th percentile male chosen, instead of 50th percentile person, or 50th percentile adult?

\weighs less than the 50th percentile for a male


Because that's what government decided. That's what they do, decide on the one size that is to fit all. All 310,000,000 of us.

It's really ridiculous if you think about it. 536 or 537 people deciding what  is best for 310,000,000 but that's the system we live under.
 
2013-09-01 12:18:15 AM
Mental note... keep car keys out of reach of children when they are older than 1 year old and the other exists. Got it.
 
2013-09-01 07:42:51 PM
I've always said that being too stupid to live has no age restrictions.
 
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