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(WSBTV)   Test driving a BMW while black? That's a tasing   (wsbtv.com) divider line 237
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2013-08-30 07:13:46 PM  
Old and busted: Driving while black

New scourge: Test driving while black

Good farking grief.
 
2013-08-30 07:13:59 PM  
Snellville:

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* Unless you are Black

/That is really a picture of Snellville city hall.
 
2013-08-30 07:14:01 PM  
Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?
 
2013-08-30 07:20:32 PM  
Fu*k tha police.
 
2013-08-30 07:28:50 PM  
FTA:  Sowells said he has never been arrested before and he plans to fight the charge. He also bought the BMW.

well, it is the ultimate driving machine.

/just bought another on wednesday for the wife
 
2013-08-30 07:34:32 PM  

I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?


That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?
 
2013-08-30 07:38:18 PM  
Do you have to step out of your car if an officer asks you to and you are not under arrest?
 
2013-08-30 07:39:29 PM  
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Do you know how black you were going back there ?

I clocked you doing at least Wesley Snipes an a Bryant Gumbel zone.
 
2013-08-30 07:40:27 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


I've taken plenty of cars for test drives by myself.  But then I'm not black.
 
2013-08-30 07:40:48 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


The kind that doesn't want to stay in business very much longer.
 
2013-08-30 07:41:14 PM  

ShawnDoc: Do you have to step out of your car if an officer asks you to and you are not under arrest?


Yes.

You will also likely never be told "you are under arrest" until the cuffs are on.
 
2013-08-30 07:49:07 PM  
What happened to the magnetic dealer plates?  Do they not have those in Georgia?
 
2013-08-30 07:52:54 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


Every test drive I have taken.
 
2013-08-30 07:54:13 PM  

FrancoFile: What happened to the magnetic dealer plates?  Do they not have those in Georgia?


Yes but they weren't required until very recently and most dealerships don't bother with them. Dealer tags with expiration dates weren't required until around 2004.
 
2013-08-30 07:56:20 PM  
FTFA: "The officer observed a paper on the rear seat that appeared to be of the type dealers use when placing a vehicle for sale. He asked if he could retrieve it and Mr. Sowells refused. Based on his refusal to provide information and his passive and then active resistance, Mr. Sowells was charged with obstruction," the statement said.

In other words, "He didn't do exactly as we said, and resisted us when we were tasing him."
 
2013-08-30 08:07:10 PM  
When I was young, I used to look different. I had punk rock hair and dress all different. The cops would always harass me. I'm glad I changed my looks.
 
2013-08-30 08:10:50 PM  
I wonder if there's a market for "X'ing while Ethnicity" insurance.


/could be big
 
2013-08-30 08:15:15 PM  
Fire those cops out of a cannon. If they make a good apology as we load them, we'll aim the cannon at a safety net. Otherwise, we'll just kind launch 'em into the air and where they lands they lands.
 
2013-08-30 08:29:42 PM  

doglover: Fire those cops out of a cannon. If they make a good apology as we load them, we'll aim the cannon at a safety net. Otherwise, we'll just kind launch 'em into the air and where they lands they lands.


Does the net have to be attached to anything?
 
2013-08-30 08:45:03 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


I bought my MGF after the dealer gave me the keys and let me take it for an hour-long test drive by myself. Of course he had checked my driving licence...
 
2013-08-30 08:49:07 PM  

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Do you know how black you were going back there ?

I clocked you doing at least Wesley Snipes an a Bryant Gumbel zone.


Anything over Will Smith invites trouble.
 
2013-08-30 09:09:28 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."
 
2013-08-30 09:10:43 PM  
Not sure what to think, on the one hand it's stupid cops and on the other it's a BMW driver.
 
2013-08-30 09:14:19 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."


What?
 
2013-08-30 09:15:09 PM  
Old news is great!

This was posted last week
 
2013-08-30 09:16:09 PM  
as somebody who is currently shopping for a BMW, I'm getting a kick out of this.
then again, I'm white, so the cop would probably have taken my word for it on the "test driving" thing... I also wouldn't be all "y'all need a warrant, pig" about a piece of paper in plain sight on the back seat.
 
2013-08-30 09:16:17 PM  

I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?


Not always. At least not around where I live. I know someone who recently got to take a buick on a 3 day test drive.
 
2013-08-30 09:16:35 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: When I was young, I used to look different. I had punk rock hair and dress all different. The cops would always harass me. I'm glad I changed my looks.


Good point.
Mr. Sowells should follow your example and change his ethnicity.
 
2013-08-30 09:18:05 PM  

I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?


Not always. they just photocopy your licence and hold onto a credit card.
 
2013-08-30 09:18:24 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


I'm actually kind of annoyed if the salesman wants to come along for the test drive.

Over-reaction by the cops, but that said, why wouldn't you just get the paperwork and let them look at it? What the hell was it going to be that would get you in more trouble?
 
2013-08-30 09:19:12 PM  
DWB?  You're so racist for saying that!
 
2013-08-30 09:19:29 PM  

SpaceBison: Gecko Gingrich: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."

What?


Like I said, the cars were identical except for color. I already knew I was going to buy the black one, test drive or not. Why not take the chance to see what the car can do and not worry about abusing the car I planned on taking home?
 
2013-08-30 09:21:06 PM  

I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?


No. When they ask for a copy of your driver's license (which you are, by law, allowed to refuse), they've already done due diligence that you are, in fact, who you say you are. (Not to mention they pull a copy of your credit report.  :-/  ) So this guy was golden, as far as the salesperson was concerned. And no, no pun intended.

I've never had a salesperson go on a test drive with me. Maybe because I'm a cute chick and I Don't Drive While Black. :-/

When people tell me things are better than they were in the 1960s, I have to laugh. But I don't live in Atlanta, either. And yes, I was an adult in the 1960s. It's not better, just sneakier. And uglier.
 
2013-08-30 09:22:28 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


If you can afford a Beemer you get a little consideration.  At least from the dealer if not the cops.
 
2013-08-30 09:25:21 PM  
I had an Italian girlfriend from Rhode Island who had moved to Jacksonville.

One night we decided to get some more beer and we got into her car and were on our way to the store when she runs a light and we get pulled over.

The cop was nice, said to see her license and registration, nods at me, I am in shorts, sandals, and a tshirt, no wallet.

She starts yelling and screaming harassment at the cop while he is checking her license.  Guess what, she had ten unpaid tolls in Orlando, and the cop says he is gonna have to take her license, she calls him a dumb redneck.

Next thing I know she is in cuffs in the back of the car.  Cop says "I see you around here all the time, we got a few friends in common, drive home safe".

I go home call a buddy who is a bail bondsman explain what went down and he says"I can get her out  right now, no charge, but do you want to call in that kinda of favor for her, and not save it for you?"

She spent the night in jail, and learned how to be polite.
 
2013-08-30 09:25:45 PM  
story date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013
 
2013-08-30 09:26:04 PM  

jayhawk88: Over-reaction by the cops, but that said, why wouldn't you just get the paperwork and let them look at it? What the hell was it going to be that would get you in more trouble?



If the cops come to your door demanding to search through your house, why not just invite them in and let them take everything they can find? Sure, you have a "right" to refuse a search without a warrant, but why go through all the trouble of waiting around for the cops to follow that pesky little thing called "the law"?
 
2013-08-30 09:28:05 PM  
As Henry Ford once said: "You can have a BMW in any color, unless you're black."
 
2013-08-30 09:28:22 PM  
Well, in some ways it is good that this happened.  It is important that a test drive be as close to a real-life experience as possible.
 
2013-08-30 09:30:47 PM  
Its one thing to pull over a vehicle with no plates/tags. Its entirely another matter to start a criminal investigation over mystery papers in the back.

/Judge: Time served and do whatever Whitey says next time, OK.
//Next judge: Yea that will be $5,000 to the innocent victim of police abuse of power.
 
2013-08-30 09:32:03 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: SpaceBison: Gecko Gingrich: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."

What?

Like I said, the cars were identical except for color. I already knew I was going to buy the black one, test drive or not. Why not take the chance to see what the car can do and not worry about abusing the car I planned on taking home?


you were going to buy it even if the engine had a knocking sound or the car shook at 70mph+?
 
2013-08-30 09:33:16 PM  
Maybe the cop just assumed he was a douche in need of a tazing because he was driving a BMW.

/dnrtfa
 
2013-08-30 09:33:28 PM  

Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?


I have NOT purchased a couple of because they didnt let us drive the car alone.

Driving around on side streets with a salesman telling you where to turn is not a test drive.
 
2013-08-30 09:34:44 PM  
Sue the dealership for not training their sales people properly
 
2013-08-30 09:34:47 PM  
Douchey subby would make it a race issue. He was un cooperative. Taze!
 
2013-08-30 09:35:05 PM  

Headso: Gecko Gingrich: SpaceBison: Gecko Gingrich: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."

What?

Like I said, the cars were identical except for color. I already knew I was going to buy the black one, test drive or not. Why not take the chance to see what the car can do and not worry about abusing the car I planned on taking home?

you were going to buy it even if the engine had a knocking sound or the car shook at 70mph+?


It (the black one) had 6 miles on it. It came with a 5yr/60K mile warranty. MD has a lemon law.
 
2013-08-30 09:36:22 PM  
Yeah,they're great until you have the slightest problem, then it's a BOAT (Bust Out Another Thousand)
 
2013-08-30 09:38:46 PM  
Fark was so awesome before it became crazy liberal.
 
2013-08-30 09:39:39 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Headso: Gecko Gingrich: SpaceBison: Gecko Gingrich: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

When I bought my first new car, there was two identical ones on the lot, save for color. The black one was the one I wanted to buy and the salesman asked me if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I said, "No...I want to take the silver one out, as I plan on buying the black one."

He tossed me the keys and said, "Have fun. Find me when you get back."

What?

Like I said, the cars were identical except for color. I already knew I was going to buy the black one, test drive or not. Why not take the chance to see what the car can do and not worry about abusing the car I planned on taking home?

you were going to buy it even if the engine had a knocking sound or the car shook at 70mph+?

It (the black one) had 6 miles on it. It came with a 5yr/60K mile warranty. MD has a lemon law.


Something is wrong with you.
 
2013-08-30 09:40:18 PM  

Bucky Katt: Lsherm: I want your skull: Isn't there usually a salesman in the car for a test drive?

That's what I was thinking.  What farking dealership just lets you take a car by yourself?

If you can afford a Beemer you get a little consideration.  At least from the dealer if not the cops.


My wife and I have a BMW and two Infinitis - all bought new.  Granted, it's been a few years since we bought a car, but I don't recall going on an "alone" test drive for any of them.  Maybe they're more worried about theft near DC or NY.  I just don't see how it's smart policy if you are a dealership.  Even if the customer shows up in a car that might cover a down payment on a new car, you aren't signing any paperwork for a test drive.

So work with me, because now I'm curious:  I take a car out for a test drive, a friend "carjacks" me and takes the new car, I file a police report, and the dealership just lost a new car.  The dealer doesn't have any recourse beyond insurance because you don't fill out paperwork for a test drive, so as long as that car is long gone you've just scored a brand new car (or what you can sell it for to a chop shop).

I'm sure there is something I'm missing, like GPS tracking, but I assume professional car thieves can get around that.  So why would a dealer let someone drive off the lot with a brand new car without a salesman in tow?
 
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