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(io9)   Honey is pretty much the only food that doesn't go bad. Why?   (io9.com) divider line 36
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2013-08-30 05:24:29 PM
4 votes:
because bees don;t have refrigerators.
2013-08-30 09:38:23 PM
3 votes:
www.thisthatnew.com
2013-08-30 10:35:19 PM
2 votes:

Cerebral Knievel: Because its almost pure sucrose and no bacteria can live in its environment.

You can pickle things with sugar as well as salt.


No it isn't.  It is almost pure glucose and fructose in a ratio of ~1:1.

downstairs: Sugar doesn't go bad.


It is good to see people are finally starting to realize that glucose and fructose are sugars just like sucrose.

There are a few factors as to why honey doesn't spoil.
1.  Honey has such a high solids level that microbes (with the exception of a few hardcore yeasts that don't actually spoil the honey) can't grow in it
2.  Honey is very thick.  It is literally difficult for molecules to move around and undergo chemical reactions.  Things like oxidation can't happen when oxygen molecules can't make their way into the honey
3.  Bee spit has anti-microbials

No chemical spoilage and no microbial spoilage = stable product

/HFCS is also almost pure glucose and fructose in a ratio of ~1:1
2013-08-30 09:46:41 PM
2 votes:

Canton: theorellior: There's also a protein in the sugary bee barf that emits small amounts of hydrogen peroxide if it does get wet.

Interesting? Is that why honey tastes so unpleasant?


YMMV, my friend. Just means more sugary bee barf for me.

Incidentally, if you drizzle honey into natural-style peanut butter and then stir it until it emulsifies, it's like better than crack.
2013-08-30 09:43:09 PM
2 votes:
I find adding water and a small amount of yeast to honey helps to enhance the flavors over time.
2013-08-31 11:15:19 AM
1 votes:

BigLuca: Skyfrog: theorellior: Canton: theorellior: There's also a protein in the sugary bee barf that emits small amounts of hydrogen peroxide if it does get wet.

Interesting? Is that why honey tastes so unpleasant?

YMMV, my friend. Just means more sugary bee barf for me.

Incidentally, if you drizzle honey into natural-style peanut butter and then stir it until it emulsifies, it's like better than crack.

I've had peanut butter and syrup sandwiches with chili but I've never tried peanut butter and honey. I'm intrigued by the idea.

It's really good.  When I'm on a diet and need a low-cal snack, I just mix up a bowl of peanut butter and honey and that does the trick.  If the peanut butter jar is more than 1/3 gone I just pour the honey right in and eat it with a malt spoon. Or drizzle it over a block of cream cheese.


LOL. You're mixing an oily legume puree and pure sugar together, I don't think that's "low-cal".
2013-08-31 12:36:52 AM
1 votes:
Tablespoon of LOCAL raw honey is good for pollen allergies (hay fever)
2013-08-31 12:33:26 AM
1 votes:

whatshisname: Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are best with creamed honey, and butter on the bread. Good crusty, white bread.


OH HELL YES THIS^^^^

/loves me some PB & H
2013-08-31 12:16:32 AM
1 votes:

ciberido: Skyfrog: theorellior: Incidentally, if you drizzle honey into natural-style peanut butter and then stir it until it emulsifies, it's like better than crack.

I've had peanut butter and syrup sandwiches with chili but I've never tried peanut butter and honey. I'm intrigued by the idea.

Are you kidding me?  Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are the best!  Followed only by peanut butter and banana sandwiches and peanut butter and bacon sandwiches.  Mix and match to your personal taste.  Food fit for a King.


Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are best with creamed honey, and butter on the bread. Good crusty, white bread.
2013-08-31 12:11:49 AM
1 votes:

Skyfrog: theorellior: Incidentally, if you drizzle honey into natural-style peanut butter and then stir it until it emulsifies, it's like better than crack.

I've had peanut butter and syrup sandwiches with chili but I've never tried peanut butter and honey. I'm intrigued by the idea.


Are you kidding me?  Peanut butter and honey sandwiches are the best!  Followed only by peanut butter and banana sandwiches and peanut butter and bacon sandwiches.  Mix and match to your personal taste.  Food fit for a King.
2013-08-30 11:52:54 PM
1 votes:

stamped human bacon: scubamage: Gyrfalcon: stamped human bacon: PacManDreaming: MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's bee sh*t puke

FTFY

It's closer to chewing something up and spitting it out as it never goes into the bee's digestive stomach.

/my $.02

The more I learn about honey, the less I WANT TO KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Have I got something to tell you about milk...

Too funny.

/I wasn't technically correct in saying "never".  The bee can consume the honey if it so desires.


Technically, honey is the bees food, and they desire it all the time.  It's what they live off of.  If a greedy keeper takes too much honey in the fall, the hive will starve.   Some will winter feed their hives with sugar water, but I believe that to be completely insane.   Bees make the perfect food for themselves, so lets replace that with sugar water.  I feel the same about feeding humming birds sugar water.
2013-08-30 11:52:19 PM
1 votes:
Just a word of extreme caution out there; NEVER EVER feed anyone six months or younger any honey! Honey is also a breeding ground for a certain type of spore that can totally mess up the undeveloped digestive system of a baby (human or animal).
2013-08-30 11:48:49 PM
1 votes:

433: Above all, how is that not already a lawsuit and a half, if corn syrup isn't listed as ingredient?


This is America.  It is important for things to be cheap.
433 [TotalFark]
2013-08-30 11:44:36 PM
1 votes:

KimNorth: Food Safety News that most store-bought honey had no pollen and contained a lot of additives, like flavored corn syrup and sometimes lead and antibiotics.


WTF are antibiotics doing in honey?  Above all, how is that not already a lawsuit and a half, if corn syrup isn't listed as ingredient?  Well, oh well.
2013-08-30 11:40:10 PM
1 votes:

KimNorth: Most of the honey you buy isn't real. The EU has banned the sale of honey imported from many parts of Asia, but of U.S. honey is reportedly smuggled from India and China.  Food Safety News that most store-bought honey had no pollen and contained a lot of additives, like flavored corn syrup and sometimes lead and antibiotics.

//You're welcome :(


Buy from local beekeepers.
2013-08-30 11:34:11 PM
1 votes:
I find adding water and a small amount of yeast to honey helps to enhance the flavors over time.
What do you mead?
2013-08-30 11:05:03 PM
1 votes:
GungFu:

Well, McDs food is processed and cooked, so it tends to drive out most moisture. A fresh watermelon is like 90-95% moisture, as it's mostly water.

Bacteria thrive on moisture.

So...
2013-08-30 10:40:18 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Because it's sugar.  Sugar doesn't go bad.

What do I nguyen?


RogermcAllen: Cerebral Knievel: Because its almost pure sucrose and no bacteria can live in its environment.

You can pickle things with sugar as well as salt.

No it isn't.  It is almost pure glucose and fructose in a ratio of ~1:1.

downstairs: Sugar doesn't go bad.

It is good to see people are finally starting to realize that glucose and fructose are sugars just like sucrose.

There are a few factors as to why honey doesn't spoil.
1.  Honey has such a high solids level that microbes (with the exception of a few hardcore yeasts that don't actually spoil the honey) can't grow in it
2.  Honey is very thick.  It is literally difficult for molecules to move around and undergo chemical reactions.  Things like oxidation can't happen when oxygen molecules can't make their way into the honey
3.  Bee spit has anti-microbials

No chemical spoilage and no microbial spoilage = stable product

/HFCS is also almost pure glucose and fructose in a ratio of ~1:1


Honey contains trace amounts of peroxide which inhibits microbial growth (guess that's what you meant by anti-microbials). That's why it could be put on wounds to dress them (stops infection, or adds flavor for bears, either way...).

It's amazing stuff. Behold the power of waggle dance.
2013-08-30 10:34:00 PM
1 votes:

GungFu: [www.bubblews.com image 605x640]


morgan spurlock is a farking idiotic, science-hating coont. That is the politest true statement I can say about him.

/covering something in salt will help prevent microbial growth
//as will adding chemical preservatives
2013-08-30 10:31:09 PM
1 votes:
io9 is pretty much a site written by morons that keeps getting Fark greenlights.
2013-08-30 10:27:15 PM
1 votes:
www.bubblews.com

/currently eating oats that were in its unopened plastic packaging - bought over 3 years ago; still tastes yummy!
2013-08-30 10:25:06 PM
1 votes:

Canton: MrHappyRotter: TomD9938: I've got a Fruit Fly population in my garage / shop that is growing increasingly annoying.

Recently I tried making a trap by drizzling some honey onto a paper plate, expecting that the next morning a bunch of the little bastards would be caught up in it like a herd of Mastodons in a tar pit.

As it happens, not one farking fly in two days and nights.  TFA says that honey is fairly acidic, so maybe that's why they wouldnt touch it.

Fruit flies are attracted to vinegar.  Take notes.  No need to thank me later.

Wow. I seriously thought you were making a honey/vinegar joke, but apparently you were not.

Maybe vinegar used as bait in a homemade flytrap would solve the fruit fly problem...


I have used those and it does work. I used clear cellophane with small holes poked in it to cover a small cup of vinegar; they can get in but they can't find their way out.
2013-08-30 10:22:30 PM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Hot sauce, pickles, and lowfat milk also never go bad.


Pickles don't go bad because they are already evil.


One of my favorite memories as a kid, was going out with my Grandfather to tend his bee hives. He always made sure to get stung at least once on the back of each hand before he was done. I asked him why, and he said it made his arthritis a lot less painful for about a week.
2013-08-30 10:19:58 PM
1 votes:

TomD9938: I've got a Fruit Fly population in my garage / shop that is growing increasingly annoying.

Recently I tried making a trap by drizzling some honey onto a paper plate, expecting that the next morning a bunch of the little bastards would be caught up in it like a herd of Mastodons in a tar pit.

As it happens, not one farking fly in two days and nights.  TFA says that honey is fairly acidic, so maybe that's why they wouldnt touch it.


Fruit flies are attracted to vinegar.  Take notes.  No need to thank me later.
2013-08-30 10:16:15 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Canton: theorellior: There's also a protein in the sugary bee barf that emits small amounts of hydrogen peroxide if it does get wet.

Interesting? Is that why honey tastes so unpleasant?

YMMV, my friend. Just means more sugary bee barf for me.

Incidentally, if you drizzle honey into natural-style peanut butter and then stir it until it emulsifies, it's like better than crack.


Hmm. I may have to try that, if I can track down a small jar of local honey. My only fear is that it would be totally wasted on me.

Awful, isn't it? I love insects, I don't fear bees, and I'd have no problem eating their vomit if only my taste buds appreciated the stuff.

/Le sigh
//At least there's always maple syrup
///Mmm, tree sap...
2013-08-30 09:56:22 PM
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: neither does Marmite.


Something cannot "go" bad when it's already there.
2013-08-30 09:52:39 PM
1 votes:
FTFA:
"So the final key to honey remaining unspoiled is making sure it's well sealed and stored in a dry place."

If it's well sealed, why in the King Fark does it matter where you store it?
2013-08-30 09:42:18 PM
1 votes:

Nick Nostril: Bullshiat. Bourbon doesn't go bad either.


Mine doesn't last long enough for me to find out.
2013-08-30 09:36:07 PM
1 votes:
There's also a protein in the sugary bee barf that emits small amounts of hydrogen peroxide if it does get wet.
2013-08-30 09:35:33 PM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: Less known is that sago also doesn't go bad.  When it is first processed, within a day or so it starts smelling like it's spoiled.  But that's it.  It doesn't go bad (the smell goes away when it is cooked).  It can be left unrefrigerated for long periods of time in tropical areas in which pretty much everything immediately rots.


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When it goes off, it tastes exactly the same as when it's fresh.
2013-08-30 09:30:58 PM
1 votes:

empres77: But the remaining honey in the bottle always hardens and crystallizes... is that not considered "going bad"?


If you got bored halfway through the article, I suggest going back to it for your answer.
2013-08-30 09:26:00 PM
1 votes:
The term is actually hygroscopic.
2013-08-30 09:22:30 PM
1 votes:
Hey, haggis never goes bad. Or at least it can't get any worse.
2013-08-30 09:02:59 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: It's bee sh*t

/how bad could it get?


No it isn't

/Bee barf
2013-08-30 08:05:29 PM
1 votes:
Because it's sugar.  Sugar doesn't go bad.

What do I nguyen?
2013-08-30 05:33:56 PM
1 votes:
It's bee sh*t

/how bad could it get?
 
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