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(CNN)   Liz Cheney: I believe my sister is a second class citizen because she is gay   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 133
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2013-08-30 04:26:23 PM  
I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?
 
2013-08-30 04:27:37 PM  
She's certainly treated like one.
 
2013-08-30 04:27:44 PM  
You can choose your friends, but you're stuck with your family
 
2013-08-30 04:29:12 PM  
I like how Cheney is butt hurt about being the subject of a push poll. The ironing is delicious.
 
2013-08-30 04:31:20 PM  
I hope Mary lives a long and happy life with her family. We can tell Liz will die bitter, much like her father.
 
2013-08-30 04:33:04 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Depends. Do you think it should be illegal to marry golddigging biatches?
 
2013-08-30 04:33:42 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Did you release a statement to the press that says you think manipulative golddigging b*tches shouldn't have the same rights as other b*tches? Does it fit into your campaign strategy to win a Senate seat in Wyoming?

If not you're making a bad analogy, which does in fact make you a bad person.

Liz Cheney doesn't need to say this to be a bad person, because she's taken plenty of actions to let us know she's a bad person.
 
2013-08-30 04:36:18 PM  
<shrug>  Family Values.  She has 'em.

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Do you think your bother should be refused the right to marry because he married someone you don't approve of?  Do you consider him a second-class citizen because he his blonde (brown, red, whatever) hair, something he didn't choose?

You have every right to your opinion about his choices.  But you never - ever - turn your back on your blood.
 
2013-08-30 04:37:36 PM  
"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

That line is a load of crap, regardless of who utters it.  Because they'd still oppose it if the state decided it was OK.  Bunch of noncommittal hogwash.
 
2013-08-30 04:39:16 PM  
Republicans just can't shut up about gays and rape and cock. It's like talking to a bunch of second graders. Second graders who can't shut up about gays and cock. And invading other countries. And cock.

/cock
 
2013-08-30 04:40:43 PM  

Diogenes: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

That line is a load of crap, regardless of who utters it.  Because they'd still oppose it if the state decided it was OK.  Bunch of noncommittal hogwash.


Indeed.  They're still against it in Washington, where the people upheld the legislature in a ballot measure.

Hypocritical, lyin' sack o' schitt.
 
2013-08-30 04:41:28 PM  
"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."


Oooo she is just SOOOO bootstrappy!  It almost makes me chubby.
 
2013-08-30 04:44:33 PM  
That's a pretty wishy washy stance to take on anything, "Let's leave it up to the states". Like each state is its own sovereign nation. Like the Civll War was about "State's Rights". Grow a pair and take one stand or the other.
 
2013-08-30 04:45:38 PM  
Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted an African-American baby.
 
2013-08-30 04:48:17 PM  

AirForceVet: Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted fathered/had an African-American baby.


FTFY
 
2013-08-30 04:48:27 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?


If by "everything", you mean "being gay", then yes.
 
2013-08-30 04:53:28 PM  
Liz,

See 1 Timothy 2:12.
 
2013-08-30 04:56:48 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: But you never - ever - turn your back on your blood.


*nods*  'Cause that just gives 'em a chance to knife you in the back.
Gotta keep an eye on the little devils.
 
2013-08-30 05:00:32 PM  
Thanksgiving must be AWESOME at the Cheney house ...
 
2013-08-30 05:05:30 PM  

HawgWild: Thanksgiving must be AWESOME at the Cheney house ...


You don't even want to be there when Dick goes bird hunting
 
2013-08-30 05:19:23 PM  

Mugato: That's a pretty wishy washy stance to take on anything, "Let's leave it up to the states". Like each state is its own sovereign nation. Like the Civll War was about "State's Rights". Grow a pair and take one stand or the other.


It's basically saying "I don't want to offend anyone on this issue".  But, at that point, you still are offending one side.   I mean, if someone said "I'd really like slavery to be made a states rights issue again" right now, you are going to offend a lot of someone's, even though you might think you are making both bigots and non-bigots "happy".

"Civil Rights" issues should in 99.9% of cases never be left up to the states.... the problem with that is, the GOP doesn't believe most people should have civil rights anyway.  Well, most people, other than the corporations that are now "people", Civil rights are probably good for them.
 
2013-08-30 05:19:47 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: But you never - ever - turn your back on your blood


Damn right, those farkers will stab you in the back faster than ANY stranger!
 
2013-08-30 05:20:39 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Yes.  Because marriage equality, equal rights under the law, and countering institutionalized bigotry is exactly like someone's irrational whim.

0/10.
 
2013-08-30 05:21:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: AirForceVet: Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted fathered/had an African-American baby.

FTFY


You mean like this guy, Strom Thurmond, famous segregationist?

www.mccordfamilyassn.com
 
2013-08-30 05:25:52 PM  
"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?
 
2013-08-30 05:26:27 PM  

AirForceVet: Benevolent Misanthrope: AirForceVet: Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted fathered/had an African-American baby.

FTFY

You mean like this guy, Strom Thurmond, famous segregationist?

[www.mccordfamilyassn.com image 642x390]


Exactly like that guy.
 
2013-08-30 05:40:14 PM  

lockers: I like how Cheney is butt hurt about being the subject of a push poll. The ironing is delicious.


It's probably the starch.
 
2013-08-30 05:40:25 PM  
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ABBONDANZA!!
 
2013-08-30 05:41:12 PM  
Pffft.

Most of the politics tab would have no problem with considering family members with different views or preferences as subhuman.

Liz would fit right in here.
 
2013-08-30 05:44:19 PM  

AirForceVet: I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts.


Well, in Dick's case, with all of an anonymous donor's heart.
 
2013-08-30 05:45:00 PM  
"The people of Wyoming deserve an honest campaign," Cheney said. "They should not be subject to the kind of dirty tricks this push poll represents."

Dirty tricks? Like trying to fool the people of WY into believing you actually live there or care about them, and that your campaign isn't simply a bald-faced power play so you can continue your father's failed agenda?
 
2013-08-30 05:45:18 PM  
"I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Somebody should ask her if she feels the same way about Women's Suffrage.
 
2013-08-30 05:46:34 PM  
"With all due respect, it looks like Liz Cheney is fishing without a license again," NRSC spokesman Brad Dayspring said.

This is going great, Liz. The party is behind you.
 
2013-08-30 05:47:20 PM  

someonelse: AirForceVet: I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts.

Well, in Dick's case, with all of an anonymous donor's heart.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-30 05:47:26 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: AirForceVet: Benevolent Misanthrope: AirForceVet: Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted fathered/had an African-American baby.

FTFY

You mean like this guy, Strom Thurmond, famous segregationist?

[www.mccordfamilyassn.com image 642x390]

Exactly like that guy.


I thought you meant John McCain.

/Well, that's what I heard, anyway.
 
2013-08-30 05:47:41 PM  
The problem with letting the people decide is that guys will always be the minority and decidedly Democrat. They can never win
 
2013-08-30 05:50:37 PM  
Take a spin through your dad's roledex.  You can find the answer to 'why' there.
 
2013-08-30 05:50:54 PM  
Mark Cheney is not a second class citizen because she is gay.  She's a second class citizen because she is a Cheney.  All those nuts haven't fallen far from the main scumbag.
 
2013-08-30 05:51:22 PM  

super_grass: Pffft.

Most of the politics tab would have no problem with considering family members with different views or preferences as subhuman.

Liz would fit right in here.


"Son, could you take out the garbage? Your dad and I are busy doing the dishes."

"And that's why I have you highlighted as 'red' and labelled 'Thinks children should take out the garbage', to remind me that you're a fascist."

"Son, your mom says that you didn't take out the garbage like she asked."

"Yes, because all children should just do their chores as they're asked, right? 0/10. Would not troll again. Welcome to my ignore list, dad."
 
2013-08-30 05:51:54 PM  
"I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Give everyone on an individual basis the opportunity to decide whether or not to get gay married and they will decide. And they will marry or they won't. But somehow I doubt that's what you meant when you said "but by the people themselves."
 
2013-08-30 05:53:19 PM  
Nevermind, just happened to actually read TFA.

the Wyoming Senate candidate wasn't supportive of same-sex marriage, despite having a sister who married her longtime partner in Washington, D.C., last year.

It takes a special kind of bigot to want to oppress your own kin.  Civilized countries do not put civil rights up for popular votes.
 
2013-08-30 05:54:25 PM  

Diogenes: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

That line is a load of crap, regardless of who utters it.  Because they'd still oppose it if the state decided it was OK.  Bunch of noncommittal hogwash.


This.

I still don't get how people still trot that shiat out.

Rights should never be up for popular vote. Either everyone has them or no one has them.

End of story.
 
2013-08-30 05:56:28 PM  
"I would like the state to tell me what rights I have." said the candidate for a smaller government.
 
2013-08-30 05:57:47 PM  
It is so nice to see that the evil b*tch is going all-in.
 
2013-08-30 06:01:06 PM  

dletter: Mugato: That's a pretty wishy washy stance to take on anything, "Let's leave it up to the states". Like each state is its own sovereign nation. Like the Civll War was about "State's Rights". Grow a pair and take one stand or the other.

It's basically saying "I don't want to offend anyone on this issue".  But, at that point, you still are offending one side.


That's exactly what it is. Like, "Abortion should be a state's rights issue". Well then people are either going to travel to a blue state to get their abortion or go to a back alley and have the guy who worked on Jack Nicholson in Batman to perform it. The whole "state's rights" thing is bullshiat. Take a stance, even if it's the wrong one.
 
2013-08-30 06:05:08 PM  
What a coont.
 
2013-08-30 06:08:10 PM  
She's obviously just trying to buy a Senate seat. I think the people of Wyoming see this. The more the gay community speaks against her bigotry the more they help her. She's pushing your buttons. Ignore her.
 
2013-08-30 06:11:50 PM  

AirForceVet: Benevolent Misanthrope: AirForceVet: Like her father, Liz Cheney is throwing her lesbian sister under the bus for her political career.

I'm certain she and her father love Mary with all their hearts. But, IMHO, their comments and action are like not supporting civil rights for blacks, even though you adopted fathered/had an African-American baby.

FTFY

You mean like this guy, Strom Thurmond, famous segregationist?


God, every time I see his leather face I imagine that poor terrified 16-year old maid who had no choice but to endure his revolting fumbling rapey advances, and then was cast out of the household after he knocked her up.

/ I actually heard a southern teabagger claim that they 'had an affair'.
 
2013-08-30 06:14:07 PM  
 "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Sure, let's let voters decide who has rights and who doesn't. If we used that strategy most of the South would still have "Negro Schools", and black folks would still be riding in the backs of buses.
 
2013-08-30 06:14:43 PM  
"I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Worked for Ancient Greece.
 
2013-08-30 06:16:21 PM  
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed [...]

Just another goddamned piece of paper, right?
 
2013-08-30 06:17:04 PM  

Karac: Civilized countries do not put civil rights up for popular votes.


Of course they don't.  They put them up to a senate vote.
 
2013-08-30 06:26:06 PM  
"State rights" issues - and still the GOP, periodically, proposes to amend the constitution to make abortions illegal and make same sex marriages illegal.
 
2013-08-30 06:27:34 PM  

thamike: Karac: Civilized countries do not put civil rights up for popular votes.

Of course they don't.  They put them up to a senate vote.


Which is just like putting them up for sale to the highest bidder.  Excuse me, most devoted lobbyist.
 
2013-08-30 06:30:43 PM  

2wolves: thamike: Karac: Civilized countries do not put civil rights up for popular votes.

Of course they don't.  They put them up to a senate vote.

Which is just like putting them up for sale to the highest bidder.  Excuse me, most devoted lobbyist.


If the Koch brothers were gay the GOP would be fighting tooth and nail for gay rights.
 
2013-08-30 06:33:00 PM  
FTFA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

If you're pandering to the religious right, this is actually a very dumb thing to say. All someone has to do then is ask: "Would you be in favor of a Federal Marriage Amendment?" There is no answer she can give that doesn't cause her to lose face with the evangelicals.
 
2013-08-30 06:52:04 PM  

Piizzadude: The problem with letting the people decide is that guys will always be the minority and decidedly Democrat. They can never win


This is a fun and strange comment.
 
2013-08-30 06:57:59 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: FTFA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."


...which should make her unqualified to run for elected office, as we're a representative republic; we do not do things by plebiscite.
 
2013-08-30 06:58:47 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


You're a bad person because you have zero concept of how to compare things.
 
2013-08-30 07:01:01 PM  

Nadie_AZ: We can tell Liz will die bitter, much like her father.


Falls.
Dick Cheney will never die.
 
2013-08-30 07:08:47 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


For starters, you're either a troll or an idiot for making such an obvious strawman.  And if you think you're brother should be a second class citizen because you don't like the girl he married...yes, you're a bad person.

"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

You don't get to vote on equal rights, bigot.
 
2013-08-30 07:10:05 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Yes, you're a shiatbag. Happy now?
1/10, only for all the bites
 
2013-08-30 07:15:46 PM  
That's what I call living by your principles.  Alienating your own family with a stir-up-the-rubes hatefest so that you can have a shot at being a carpetbagger bloodsucking Dr. Strangelove like Blackhearted Daddy.

Let us know if it was worth it, Darthena.
 
2013-08-30 07:18:49 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


If you somehow convinced your brother not to marry the person he married, there's still women available in the marriage pool that he presumably would be willing to marry. But if he were gay and living in, say, Texas, his marriage pool would be empty. That's profoundly unfair. And if you advocate for keeping someone's marriage pool empty, then you are 100% acting like a farking bigot. Bigoted behavior makes me vomitous.
 
2013-08-30 07:27:11 PM  

Old enough to know better:  "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Sure, let's let voters decide who has rights and who doesn't. If we used that strategy most of the South would still have "Negro Schools", and black folks would still be riding in the backs of buses.


What would happen if a state banned strait marriage? I doubt she'd have the same response.
 
2013-08-30 07:27:25 PM  

Emposter: You don't get to vote on equal rights, bigot.


Comments like hers make me think that modern Republicans as a group have never read Plato's Republic and are unfamiliar with the concept of the "tyranny of the majority", which is especially ironic as their ideals aren't the majority opinion any more.
 
2013-08-30 07:32:22 PM  

johnryan51: If the Koch brothers were gay the GOP would be fighting tooth and nail for gay rights.


The Koch brothers support gay marriage.
 
2013-08-30 07:41:07 PM  
Conservatism is fertile ground for the world's worst kinds of hatred, bigotry, and evil.
 
2013-08-30 07:42:14 PM  

PanicMan: Old enough to know better:  "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Sure, let's let voters decide who has rights and who doesn't. If we used that strategy most of the South would still have "Negro Schools", and black folks would still be riding in the backs of buses.

What would happen if a state banned strait marriage? I doubt she'd have the same response.


Good point. And their answer no matter what opens them up to questions. If you'd be apathetic, why do you care about what happens to legal marriage? If you'd be outraged, why is your outrage more worthy of being addressed than gay people's outrage?
 
2013-08-30 07:44:32 PM  
So she thinks that states should be able to decide if her sister's sexual orientation means she's not deserving of basic civil rights.  At least she's ideologically consistent.
 
2013-08-30 07:49:07 PM  
The Founding Fathers would have called them all a bunch of tyrants.

Jesus would have condemned them and cast them out of his sight.

Don't they realize?  Can't they see where they stand?  Do they really think that God cares about something so insignificant as all that?
 
2013-08-30 07:49:14 PM  
Wow, she's using the same logic that segregationists used. "Let the states and people decide!". Sorry you coont...basic human rights aren't a matter of popularity.
 
2013-08-30 07:50:44 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Conservatism is fertile ground for the world's worst kinds of hatred, bigotry, and evil.


Teahadist accusing you of being intolerant of their intolerance in 5...4...3...
 
2013-08-30 07:52:55 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Conservatism is fertile ground for the world's worst kinds of hatred, bigotry, and evil.


upload.wikimedia.org Hmmm
 
2013-08-30 07:55:43 PM  
A 'Right' that can be voted on is not a 'Right'.
 
2013-08-30 07:58:37 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Conservatism is fertile ground for the world's worst kinds of hatred, bigotry, and evil.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 245x343] Hmmm


I'm trying to figure out if the poster is agreeing or if he's one of those guys that thinks since the Z in nazi stands for socialism, it means they were left leaning and socialist.
 
2013-08-30 08:02:57 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: <shrug>  Family Values.  She has 'em.

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?

Do you think your bother should be refused the right to marry because he married someone you don't approve of?  Do you consider him a second-class citizen because he his blonde (brown, red, whatever) hair, something he didn't choose?

You have every right to your opinion about his choices.  But you never - ever - turn your back on your blood.


Fark that. I will have next to nothing to do with my brother once my mother dies and I will be happy for it. He is a farking asshole with a superiority complex who has been little more than a pain as far back as I can remember.
 
2013-08-30 08:03:14 PM  
This just in: Liz Chaney is running for office, which brings out her repellent side. Just like her old man
 
2013-08-30 08:07:00 PM  

dywed88: He is a farking asshole with a superiority complex who has been little more than a pain as far back as I can remember.


And yet here you are, in the politics tab.

HMMMMMMMM
 
2013-08-30 08:07:12 PM  
FTA:
"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

Translation:
I support fetus's unless they DECIDE to become gay.  At that point, I think you people are justified in hating them and denying them basic human rights and any judge who says otherwise is bad.  So everybody vote for me... m'kay?
 
2013-08-30 08:08:45 PM  

Infernalist: The Founding Fathers would have called them all a bunch of tyrants.

Jesus would have condemned them and cast them out of his sight.

Don't they realize?  Can't they see where they stand?  Do they really think that God cares about something so insignificant as all that?


I think that the problem here is that you are misunderstanding what their vision of God truly is. Your vision of God may be that of a Great and Grand Benevolent Creator however, that isn't really what their vision of God is. This is what you end up with when you boil down their vision of what God really is:

God is an ill tempered five year old boy sitting by an ant hill on a sunny day while holding a magnifying glass. He is grinning as there are many scorched ant bodies laying lifeless around the hill.

And this is also what they are desperately trying to emulate.

tmyk_swoosh.jpg
 
2013-08-30 08:10:55 PM  

dywed88: Benevolent Misanthrope: <shrug>  Family Values.  She has 'em.

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?

Do you think your bother should be refused the right to marry because he married someone you don't approve of?  Do you consider him a second-class citizen because he his blonde (brown, red, whatever) hair, something he didn't choose?

You have every right to your opinion about his choices.  But you never - ever - turn your back on your blood.

Fark that. I will have next to nothing to do with my brother once my mother dies and I will be happy for it. He is a farking asshole with a superiority complex who has been little more than a pain as far back as I can remember.


My family, outside of my sister and my parents, are largely leeches and/useless assholes. Fark em all.
 
2013-08-30 08:12:37 PM  

Infernalist: The Founding Fathers would have called them all a bunch of tyrants.

Jesus would have condemned them and cast them out of his sight.

Don't they realize?  Can't they see where they stand?  Do they really think that God cares about something so insignificant as all that?


At some point, they have to believe that one day, they will be standing before St. Peter and the Gates of Heaven, and Peter is going to say "So you did everything you could to help rich people become richer?  You spent no effort to help you common man in need, and you hated on those gay people.  Come on it... have a seat next to Ronald over there."
 
2013-08-30 08:18:46 PM  
Isn't this Liz Cheney pretty much the spawn of Satan.
 
2013-08-30 08:21:40 PM  

Diogenes: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

That line is a load of crap, regardless of who utters it.  Because they'd still oppose it if the state decided it was OK.  Bunch of noncommittal hogwash.


Basically she is saying interracial should be illegal in 16 states.

If the courts and Federal government weren't involved in marriage and it was left up to the states, I would put money on anti-miscegenation still being on the books in several of those states.
 
2013-08-30 08:28:43 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


Do you also believe your brother shouldn't legally be allowed to raise children, work as a teacher, or should be jailed due to his sexuality?

Because Liz Cheney does.

She really hates your brother.
 
2013-08-30 08:35:11 PM  

Mercutio74: So she thinks that states should be able to decide if her sister's sexual orientation means she's not deserving of basic civil rights.  At least she's ideologically consistent.


Except for the small governmnet staying out of people's lives while banning abortion and gay marriage thing. And probably a hell of a lot of others.
 
2013-08-30 08:49:31 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: HawgWild: Thanksgiving must be AWESOME at the Cheney house ...

You don't even want to be there when Dick goes bird hunting


I bet fishing with Evil Dick is a hoot, too:

i78.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-30 09:01:23 PM  
img.fark.net

"I'm the Sith and you are the apprentice!  Got it?"
 
2013-08-30 09:22:04 PM  
If you don't like your family or don't agree with them or flat out hate them, cut them off.  Works for both sisters in this family.  Biological family doesn't mean shiat if they're bad people.
 
2013-08-30 09:22:09 PM  

BSABSVR: serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?

You're a bad person because you have zero concept of how to compare things.


You're right.  The point I intended to make was just that people shouldn't be expected to change their positions just to stick up for their family members.
But yeah, in hindsight I really dropped the ball there.
 
2013-08-30 09:26:36 PM  

FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?


I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.
 
2013-08-30 09:36:05 PM  
"I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

By the states, but not by judges or legislators? In reality, what is wanted is for the people to decide the issue of marriage for themselves; however, right now there are statutes in Wyoming which ban same-sex marriages, ergo homosexuals are unable to decide the issue of marriage for themselves. Heard here folks, Liz Cheney is for same-sex marriage but against forcible same-sex marriage.
 
2013-08-30 10:10:02 PM  

serial_crusher: FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?

I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.


For a definitive answer to your question we need the rates of married lesbians that have affairs with men and end up getting pregnant...got those stats handy?
 
2013-08-30 10:11:44 PM  
Ridiculous. She's a second class citizen because she's butt-ugly.
 
2013-08-30 10:20:43 PM  

serial_crusher: I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.


It's 1000x.  For every one abortion a straight married woman has, a married lesbian has 1000.
 
2013-08-30 10:29:04 PM  

Etchy333: serial_crusher: I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.

It's 1000x.  For every one abortion a straight married woman has, a married lesbian has 1000.


I wonder why gay women have a thousand times more sex with men than straight women do. Maybe being married to a dude really does kill your sex drive.
 
2013-08-30 10:42:32 PM  
Voters  oughtto consider that the kind of person who would throw their own family members under the bus to get elected are the kind who will throw the electorate under the bus if it will increase their power. Of course, the kind of voters who would vote for Liz Cheney won't think that way.
 
2013-08-30 10:44:42 PM  

HawgWild: Thanksgiving must be AWESOME at the Cheney house ...


Liz absolutely believes in marriage equality. She's lying to win a Senate seat, just as Dick admits that he believed in marriage equality in 2004, but couldn't say so because it would've hurt he and Bush's reelection chances. Mary Cheney has clearly sold her soul and doesn't care if her father or sister lie in order to advance their careers. Thanksgiving is a wonderful time at their house. Dick waterboards the turkey personally.
 
2013-08-30 11:01:22 PM  

SilentStrider: Nadie_AZ: We can tell Liz will die bitter, much like her father.

Falls.
Dick Cheney will never die.


I swear I typed false, not falls.
 
2013-08-30 11:06:48 PM  
for lack of a better argument, i recommend love and kindness
 
2013-08-30 11:28:58 PM  
"I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote. "I believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states, and by the people in the states, not by judges and not even by legislators, but by the people themselves."

[sarcasm]
I know, right? We didn't need Loving v Virginia; we should have left the states to decide for themselves.
[/sarcasm]

Diogenes: That line is a load of crap, regardless of who utters it.  Because they'd still oppose it if the state decided it was OK.  Bunch of noncommittal hogwash.


And this.
 
2013-08-31 12:17:07 AM  
regulations should be handled at the state level.

I guess she'd have to believe that regulations regarding polygamy should be handled at the state level, as well.

If a state legalized group marriage, I wonder if other states would have to recognize it if they move to another state.
 
2013-08-31 12:19:05 AM  
Liz. That's one letter away from lez.
 
2013-08-31 12:28:50 AM  
These regressive morons are too farking stupid to realize they already lost this debate...
 
2013-08-31 12:37:38 AM  
I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.
 
2013-08-31 12:39:33 AM  

keylock71: These regressive morons are too farking stupid to realize they already lost this debate...


Men marrying other men is progressive. It is progress because it progresses towards progressiveness.
 
2013-08-31 12:43:50 AM  

spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.


Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.
 
2013-08-31 01:16:49 AM  
With Liz, the rancid apple didn't fall far from the tree.
 
2013-08-31 01:18:20 AM  

HighOnCraic: spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.

Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.

 
Out of print Sister Lynne Cheney
On Amazon used costs 42.89 or more
 
2013-08-31 01:19:41 AM  

spongeboob: HighOnCraic: spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.

Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.
 
Out of print Sisters Lynne Cheney
On Amazon used costs 42.89 or more


FTFM
 
2013-08-31 01:27:53 AM  

spongeboob: HighOnCraic: spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.

Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.
 
Out of print Sister Lynne Cheney
On Amazon used costs 42.89 or more


Thanks!  Giggity!
 
2013-08-31 01:56:37 AM  

Otto's_Jacket: serial_crusher: FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?

I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.

For a definitive answer to your question we need the rates of married lesbians that have affairs with men and end up getting pregnant...got those stats handy?


Nope, I'm going to have to do some research on this.  Send the lesbians my way.  That's right.  all the lesbians
 
2013-08-31 02:03:52 AM  

serial_crusher: FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?

I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.


Hahaha, oh wow.

Seriously, wow. I'm shocked.

Invent something unprovable about a group I don't like it, then act like it's true!

You're scum.
 
2013-08-31 02:25:16 AM  

LavenderWolf: Invent something unprovable about a group I don't like it, then act like it's true!


How did you not interpret that as a joke?
 
2013-08-31 03:45:35 AM  

FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?


You're missing the big picture. It's about the babies. Lots and lots of babies. The gays need to be marginalised and shamed into loveless shams of heterosexual marriages so they can make babies. Abortion has to go so there can be more babies.

Babies that will grow up to be good little soldiers to be fed into the meat grinder to make more profits for the military-industrial complex.

See? Doesn't it all make sense now?
 
2013-08-31 09:39:15 AM  

serial_crusher: FloydA: "I am strongly pro-life and I am not pro-gay marriage," Cheney wrote.

You know which demographic group has very, very few abortions?

I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.


Hey look, much like EVERYTHING, Serial Crusher doesn't understand what a Lesbian is!
 
2013-08-31 10:54:49 AM  

serial_crusher: Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


It sounds like you are.  You kind of defeated your own analogy, there.
 
2013-08-31 10:57:22 AM  

forever_blowing_bubbles: I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.

Hey look, much like EVERYTHING, Serial Crusher doesn't understand what a Lesbian is!


I have known lesbians who were emotionally devastated when a woman they thought would be their partner for the rest of their life left them for a man.  Life is complicated.
 
2013-08-31 11:05:11 AM  

spongeboob: HighOnCraic: spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.

Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.
 
Out of print Sister Lynne Cheney
On Amazon used costs 42.89 or more


The full text can be had as a PDF at http://whitehouse.georgewbush.org/administration/lynne-cheney-sisters - complete.pdf

This whole thing is the best example of "You can't make this shiat up" that I have seen in a long time.
 
2013-08-31 11:05:58 AM  

DarwiOdrade: "The people of Wyoming deserve an honest campaign," Cheney said. "They should not be subject to the kind of dirty tricks this push poll represents."

Dirty tricks? Like trying to fool the people of WY into believing you actually live there or care about them, and that your campaign isn't simply a bald-faced power play so you can continue your father's failed agenda?


Yeah. She can't win here, and few Wyomingites are stupid enough to buy the line that she's from here. It's funny because as conservative as this state is, folks here really hate neocons, and typically view the Cheneys' claims of residency/origin as a stain on the good state's reputation.
 
2013-08-31 11:11:41 AM  

flondrix: forever_blowing_bubbles: I wonder what the abortion rates are for married lesbians compared to married straight women.
Can't hide the affair by telling your spouse it's her baby, so abortion's your only way out.

Hey look, much like EVERYTHING, Serial Crusher doesn't understand what a Lesbian is!

I have known lesbians who were emotionally devastated when a woman they thought would be their partner for the rest of their life left them for a man.  Life is complicated.


Do you know the difference between Gay, Lesbian, and Bi-Sexual?
 
2013-08-31 11:18:19 AM  

flondrix: spongeboob: HighOnCraic: spongeboob: I would recommend for the next push poll bringing up her mother's lesbian romance novel.

Citation, please?

Not that I think you're wrong, I'm just curious.
 
Out of print Sister Lynne Cheney
On Amazon used costs 42.89 or more

The full text can be had as a PDF at http://whitehouse.georgewbush.org/administration/lynne-cheney-sisters - complete.pdf

This whole thing is the best example of "You can't make this shiat up" that I have seen in a long time.


Thanks
 
2013-08-31 11:27:53 AM  
Thanksgiving at the Cheney house must rock!

Dad, the VP for one of the worst, if not the worst, President in the history of the United States.
Mom, married to a neo-con troll who grunts against same-sex marriage, even as she writes lesbian romance novels.
Mary, the daughter who married her long-time female partner.
Liz, the daughter who is campaigning against same-sex marriage.

"Stony silence" probably doesn't begin to describe that turkey-carving moment.
 
2013-08-31 11:34:15 AM  

forever_blowing_bubbles: I have known lesbians who were emotionally devastated when a woman they thought would be their partner for the rest of their life left them for a man. Life is complicated.

Do you know the difference between Gay, Lesbian, and Bi-Sexual?


Yes, and so did the women in question.  Or thought they did.  As I said, life is complicated.
 
2013-08-31 11:59:30 AM  

zerkalo: This just in: Liz Chaney is running for office, which brings out her repellent side. Just like her old man


She has a non-repellent side?
 
2013-08-31 01:35:21 PM  

DrPainMD: Ridiculous. She's a second class citizen because she's butt-ugly.


Then how did she get that hot wife?

www.usmagazine.com
 
2013-08-31 02:18:58 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't agree with everything my brother does.  Am I a bad person because of that?
I didn't think he should have married the girl he married.  Am I bigoted against manipulative golddigging biatches?


That's not even a remotely analogous situation.

Let's say instead of a "manipulative gold-digging biatch," your brother was marrying a man he loves and who also loves him. You disapprove because they're both men. That makes you a bigot.
 
2013-08-31 02:43:04 PM  

serial_crusher: LavenderWolf: Invent something unprovable about a group I don't like it, then act like it's true!

How did you not interpret that as a joke?


Yeah I realized my error immediately after posting. My bad.
 
2013-08-31 03:32:01 PM  

jackiepaper: My family, outside of my sister and my parents, are largely leeches and/useless assholes.


What are they like when they're inside of your sister?
 
2013-08-31 03:46:00 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: jackiepaper: My family, outside of my sister and my parents, are largely leeches and/useless assholes.

What are they like when they're inside of your sister?


Well to be honest, if he ever has a nephew or niece via his sister, they will literally be feeding off her blood while inside her too.
 
2013-08-31 05:04:45 PM  

Blues_X: See 1 Timothy 2:12.


Thread is over, can't get better than this.
 
2013-09-01 12:45:39 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: DrPainMD: Ridiculous. She's a second class citizen because she's butt-ugly.

Then how did she get that hot wife?

[www.usmagazine.com image 467x707]




I see some pleasant looking women in that photo, but no hot ones. There may not be too much overlap in the Venn diagram for what straight guys think is hot, and lesbians think is hot. Though there's probably some straight guy out there that thinks diesel dykes are the hottest women ever.
 
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