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(Townhall)   UNC Student Committee: So OK for the 2013-2014 academic year every single student group will get full funding except for the college republicans, they get a 75% cut. We can't have diversity of thought on campus   (townhall.com) divider line 214
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2013-08-30 06:29:30 PM
Rush said if I wanted workers at McDonald's to get $15/hr, I should very voluntarily pay more for my Big Mac.

I guess that means Republicans should pay more tuition if they want College Republicans to get more funding?
 
2013-08-30 06:30:09 PM

Munchausen's Proxy: Like this group or not, they should not be singled out


It's a good thing that they weren't as has been explained above.  But they are still free to whine about it.
 
2013-08-30 06:31:25 PM

DrPainMD: Then overpay. The IRS will gladly take your money.


If you feel the wealthy are paying too much then please send them a portion of your income.
 
2013-08-30 06:32:59 PM

homelessdude: I dunno, an anarchist group with a Facebook page? can't be all that radical.

From the UNControllables FB page.........
Description:
We are your local, UNC anarchists. We're also anti-authoritarians, anti-capitalists, and up-to-no-good do-gooders. We seek out a world without rulers and rules, where we can live freely without having to compete against each other. We seek out a movement of uncontrollable dreamers who don't believe in authority for its own sake. We want to seduce YOU.

Besides, given the behavior of members of Republican Party over the past few years, I submit the "anarchists" are the GOP themselves.


The GOP are nihilists, not anarchists.
 
2013-08-30 06:33:27 PM

Munchausen's Proxy: SenorBenedict: Munchausen's Proxy: If you don't have a problem with this, you are certainly a hypocrite.  If the campus democrats or LGBT or any other group you like had funding reduced most would be screaming.  Like this group or not, they should not be singled out just as no other should be singled out.

They went from 12 grand to 3 grand, maybe they couldn't justify having the 12 grand and their budget got cut. Isn't that a good thing?

In this case fair is the good thing.  You and others can hide behind the bootstrappy comments, but they don't negate this smacks of unfair to say the least.  If you can honestly say they you would not complain at all regardless of which group is singled out, I will call you a liar.


Well seeing as someone above you explained the situation I would not say its unfair since they got more than the average amount.
 
2013-08-30 06:51:10 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: SenorBenedict: You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill?

How do you figure? Let's take into account that many if not most have been filling the lock box for 60+ years.


IOW: Gimme
 
2013-08-30 06:55:18 PM

HighOnCraic: They should just borrow money from their parents. . .


Why do that when they ought to make tough sacrifices, like selling off some of their stock options?
 
2013-08-30 07:03:39 PM
Late to the party.

Have any liberals suggested equal funding for all legitimate student organizations?
 
2013-08-30 07:06:42 PM
So because this is coming from a Townhall link on Freeper Friday, I assume that this never happened and is a complete fabrication....
 
2013-08-30 07:06:57 PM

cchris_39: Late to the party.

Have any liberals suggested equal funding for all legitimate student organizations?


I will suggest that.

/I don't consider College Republicans a legitimate student organization.
 
2013-08-30 07:12:20 PM
Yeah nice conflict of Interest in the article,  Town hall is biatching about how the funding the the young Republicans got is keeping one of their own from getting (presumably) paid to speak.
 
2013-08-30 07:13:19 PM

Warlordtrooper: I will suggest that.

/I don't consider College Republicans a legitimate student organization.


man, so clever
 
2013-08-30 07:13:39 PM
Yakk:

A little on the angry side, but I cant argue with the analysis.

There's me in a nutshell.
 
2013-08-30 07:15:15 PM

SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?


The money for student groups comes from... student association fees, which everyone has to pay.  This money these greedy kids are demanding is... their own money.

/you know, after all my years here, I still don't know if DIA is the stupidest asshole on the planet or the best troll Fark has ever seen.
 
2013-08-30 07:17:48 PM
It's highly possible people are tired of the 24/7 Derpfest from "Conservatives"
 
2013-08-30 07:26:07 PM

DrPainMD: Liberal voices also preach intolerance.


"Bbb bbb but both sides..."

/this is why we don't need to subsidize a conservative presence
//you guys have been flogging the same three dead horses for decades
 
2013-08-30 07:27:55 PM

Dwight_Yeast: SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?

The money for student groups comes from... student association fees, which everyone has to pay.  This money these greedy kids are demanding is... their own money.

/you know, after all my years here, I still don't know if DIA is the stupidest asshole on the planet or the best troll Fark has ever seen.


He's not the best troll fark has ever seen.  Does that help?
 
2013-08-30 07:30:35 PM

born_yesterday: He's not the best troll fark has ever seen. Does that help?


Then I'm depressed that someone could be that brain-numbingly stupid and yet still be literate.

Unless he has a helper money who types out his posts for him.  I'm going to pretend there's a helper monkey involved, as t will keep my brain from imploding.
 
2013-08-30 07:34:47 PM

Dwight_Yeast: born_yesterday: He's not the best troll fark has ever seen. Does that help?

Then I'm depressed that someone could be that brain-numbingly stupid and yet still be literate.

Unless he has a helper money who types out his posts for him.  I'm going to pretend there's a helper monkey involved, as t will keep my brain from imploding.


Everything gets better when a monkey gets involved.
 
2013-08-30 07:34:50 PM
You know why UNC doesn't fund the "Chemtrails, 9/11 Was a Government Conspiracy, and HAARP is a Government Mind Control Program" group?  Because you don't give money to whackjobs to sit around and mewl about their stupid, stupid ideas.  This is why the College Republicans shouldn't have been funded at all.  Let's face it -- basically every one of the Republican platform issues has either been debunked, dismissed, or destroyed with logic, facts, and statistics, or it's outright bigotry.  Neither of those things has any place being funded by a university which is built around the notion of education and the use of empiricism to draw logical conclusions based on observable data.  It's really just about as silly as funding the College Crusade for Christ, or the Aryan Nation.  Nobody in their right mind would dedicate public funds to either of those groups, and the Republican Party has basically become enslaved to its base, which is a pathetic, bizarre amalgamation of both of them.
Zero out the group and tell them when they come back with a platform that differs from the RNC's platform in that it's not cravenly toadying to religious fundamentalists, racists, and bigots, then they can play in the sandbox again.  Otherwise, go rent the Knights of Columbus hall and talk there.
 
2013-08-30 07:38:25 PM

dahmers love zombie: You know why UNC doesn't fund the "Chemtrails, 9/11 Was a Government Conspiracy, and HAARP is a Government Mind Control Program" group?  Because you don't give money to whackjobs to sit around and mewl about their stupid, stupid ideas.  This is why the College Republicans shouldn't have been funded at all.  Let's face it -- basically every one of the Republican platform issues has either been debunked, dismissed, or destroyed with logic, facts, and statistics, or it's outright bigotry.  Neither of those things has any place being funded by a university which is built around the notion of education and the use of empiricism to draw logical conclusions based on observable data.  It's really just about as silly as funding the College Crusade for Christ, or the Aryan Nation.  Nobody in their right mind would dedicate public funds to either of those groups, and the Republican Party has basically become enslaved to its base, which is a pathetic, bizarre amalgamation of both of them.
Zero out the group and tell them when they come back with a platform that differs from the RNC's platform in that it's not cravenly toadying to religious fundamentalists, racists, and bigots, then they can play in the sandbox again.  Otherwise, go rent the Knights of Columbus hall and talk there.


5/10 not bad
 
2013-08-30 07:39:27 PM
Anyone else notice that TFA failed to list the numbers for the college republicans? Interesting, no?
 
2013-08-30 07:41:12 PM
Wow college Republicans sure have taken to the whining early. So arguably the two others aren't really political groups. One could be said that one is explicitly anti politics.

/And bootstraps biatches
//also took it from McCrory's book, cut their funding and gave their friends raises
 
2013-08-30 07:47:13 PM
Good.  Let the Koch brothers pick up the tab.  Of all student groups, the College Republicans are probably the LAST ones that need university funding.
 
2013-08-30 07:48:27 PM
Ya know, this article would have more credibility if it actually identified why the spending cuts occurred, the makeup of the committee, information on the finance committee's policy toward political organizations, information on their overall budget and the scope of their powers...

It'd also have more credibility if TownHall wasn't going to receive a direct financial benefit from this group getting funded.
 
2013-08-30 07:51:29 PM
These students will now have no way to learn the political views of Townhall editors.
 
2013-08-30 07:52:05 PM
Good. fark em. Why reason with ideologies that refuse to reciprocate?
 
2013-08-30 07:52:31 PM
Years ago I served on a University committee to allocate housing and discovered every group that did not get what they wanted had not bothered to submit the proper forms.  My guess is that the  College Republicans just didn't bother to submit the proper forms and so the bulk of their funding was just summarily denied by a committee that has to follow the University rules.  I remember having groups we would like to help but they had just not bothered to make any attempt to fill out the correct paperwork, so we had to just deny their request - and almost all of them complained like crazy and just denied that they had failed to submit the proper paperwork even when we showed them what they had (or had not) submitted.
 
2013-08-30 07:56:49 PM

vpb: Do college Republicans do anything thought related?


politic365.com
They're great at thinking up ways to piss off everyone who isn't from a rich, white, Christian family up to their ears in old money.
 
2013-08-30 07:57:07 PM

Munchausen's Proxy: If you don't have a problem with this, you are certainly a hypocrite.  If the campus democrats or LGBT or any other group you like had funding reduced most would be screaming.  Like this group or not, they should not be singled out just as no other should be singled out.


You should investigate the meaning of "singled out".
 
2013-08-30 07:57:52 PM
so much unintended lol in this thread... seriously, do you warm, inclusive types in the progressive brain trust ever take a step back and see what a bigoted, piece of shiat attitude you've got towards people you disagree with?
 
2013-08-30 08:00:33 PM
This is higher education. They're trying to teach people to be open minded. It's hard to do that when you have conservatives walking around and spewing their derp.
 
2013-08-30 08:03:14 PM

the_dude_abides: a bigoted, piece of shiat attitude


Nobody here is interested in your autobiography.
 
2013-08-30 08:05:13 PM

the_dude_abides: so much unintended lol in this thread... seriously, do you warm, inclusive types in the progressive brain trust ever take a step back and see what a bigoted, piece of shiat attitude you've got towards people you disagree with?


Once you hate somebody enough, everything they do is offensive to you. That goes double if you're surrounded by people who think the same and have just as little self-awareness.
 
2013-08-30 08:06:59 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: DrPainMD: Liberal voices also preach intolerance.

"Bbb bbb but both sides..."

/this is why we don't need to subsidize a conservative presence
//you guys have been flogging the same three dead horses for decades


"You guys?" What the hell makes you think I'm a conservative?
 
2013-08-30 08:07:19 PM
Why are they throwing away the Young Republican label?  They most certainly aren't conservatives.
 
2013-08-30 08:08:05 PM

DrPainMD: LouDobbsAwaaaay: DrPainMD: Liberal voices also preach intolerance.

"Bbb bbb but both sides..."

/this is why we don't need to subsidize a conservative presence
//you guys have been flogging the same three dead horses for decades

"You guys?" What the hell makes you think I'm a conservative?


You're either with him or you're part of the problem.
 
2013-08-30 08:08:55 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: vpb: Do college Republicans do anything thought related?

[politic365.com image 640x427]
They're great at thinking up ways to piss off everyone who isn't from a rich, white, Christian family up to their ears in old money.


If they wanted any accuracy they'd be charging asians more than whites.
 
2013-08-30 08:10:20 PM

super_grass: Once you hate somebody enough, everything they do is offensive to you. That goes double if you're surrounded by people who think the same and have just as little self-awareness.


well, it goes without saying that both sides do it. but considering that progressives love to trumpet the whole "we're the inclusive party that cares" thing, it's especially hypocritical that they're always raging bile against anyone who doesn't conform to their outlook. not a lot of happy warriors out there anymore.
 
2013-08-30 08:15:07 PM
University campuses:  The platform for the closed mind
 
2013-08-30 08:16:32 PM

the_dude_abides: super_grass: Once you hate somebody enough, everything they do is offensive to you. That goes double if you're surrounded by people who think the same and have just as little self-awareness.

well, it goes without saying that both sides do it. but considering that progressives love to trumpet the whole "we're the inclusive party that cares" thing, it's especially hypocritical that they're always raging bile against anyone who doesn't conform to their outlook. not a lot of happy warriors out there anymore.



25.media.tumblr.com 

There's openness, and then there's OPENNESSTM.


That being said, there's very little progressivism in Fark Progressives. Would you call the SJW hamplanets at Tumblr women?
 
2013-08-30 08:22:02 PM

GeneralJim: NightSteel: "The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.
So, you prefer intolerance put into action, as compared with intolerance claimed for others? So, you like to claim Republicans are racists, but ignore the fact that Democrats founded the KKK and the Jim Crow laws, right?


Herpity Derpity Doooo.....!
 
2013-08-30 08:28:33 PM

iaazathot: GeneralJim: NightSteel: "The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.
So, you prefer intolerance put into action, as compared with intolerance claimed for others? So, you like to claim Republicans are racists, but ignore the fact that Democrats founded the KKK and the Jim Crow laws, right?

Herpity Derpity Doooo.....!


I don't understand how a guy who's clearly living in the 1800s is posting on the internet.

/The General, I mean.
 
2013-08-30 08:30:13 PM

SnakeLee: I ran a student group and never wanted any funding from the school, because I didn't want them nosing into our business.  I just paid for everything myself.  I tried pretty hard to get us an office, but there just wasn't space for it.  The group would probably still be going today if we had gotten one, probably for the best that it isn't.


You were a pimp, weren't you?

/Gator don't play that!
 
2013-08-30 08:35:13 PM

muck4doo: This is higher education. They're trying to teach people to be open minded. It's hard to do that when you have conservatives walking around and spewing their derp.


They got banned from campus?
 
2013-08-30 08:51:36 PM
They should have gotten three fifths.
 
2013-08-30 08:52:28 PM

ShadowKamui: MooseUpNorth: derpy: One anarchist group got $4,000.

Still trying to wrap my mind around an organized anarchy group with funding.

Its called fraud and embezzlement


And it's far more common with student groups than people think.  I used to work on the board for student activities fees budgeting at my University.  The most notorious fraud I found was a group of five students who formed three separate student groups, all made up of the same five students and no one else, all with similar yet slightly differently-phrased objectives.  Each group requested $15,000, with their group's budgets all pretty much going to the creation and marketing of an album.  One group was going to foot the bill for a recording studio and a camera to record a video, another group was going to pay for printing CD's and a launch party for the album, and the other was going to pay for a cameraman to record the video as well as for flyers and other advertisements.  It was blatant and obvious what they were doing when I interviewed the groups.

We killed all of their funding and referred them to the Student Activities Committee for reconsideration of their charter.  They had been doing this for two years prior, but no one apparently had looked into it that deeply and until I and another committee member started questioning the ridiculousness of their expenses.
 
2013-08-30 09:03:42 PM
The solution is simple -- Cut the UNC Student Committee's funding by 75%
 
2013-08-30 09:06:50 PM
Munchausen's Proxy:
In this case fair is the good thing.  You and others can hide behind the bootstrappy comments, but they don't negate this smacks of unfair to say the least.  If you can honestly say they you would not complain at all regardless of which group is singled out, I will call you a liar.

They got 30% more than the average.  Is that fair?
 
2013-08-30 09:07:05 PM
Funny for me anyways the UNControllables looks like a hyperlink but it doesn't work like one, but a Google search shows that they are hosting this on 9/4/2013 I would think that it might be of interest to the Conservatives as there is a Democrat in the White House
https://uncstudentorgs.collegiatelink.net/organization/UNControllabl es /calendar/details/267400
 
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