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(Townhall)   UNC Student Committee: So OK for the 2013-2014 academic year every single student group will get full funding except for the college republicans, they get a 75% cut. We can't have diversity of thought on campus   (townhall.com) divider line 214
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2013-08-30 05:38:01 PM
HAHAHAHA

REPUBICANS ARE DUM
 
2013-08-30 05:38:50 PM

SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?


Good point. Agree totally. How much should we cut social security benefits so that it'll be solvent and younger generations won't get stuck with the bill? 5%? 10% 15?
 
2013-08-30 05:39:42 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: FTA:


"I'm disappointed by this decision but not surprised. The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."


Duh.

Obvious tag get its funding cut or something?


Derp!
 
2013-08-30 05:41:48 PM
Sliding Carp: Why do the republicans want socialism?

Except they were forced to pay into this with their tuition and now the liberals are stealing their money at disbursement time to shut them up. Liberalism can't exist with free speech, open discussion, and transparency. It can only survive by shutting the other guy up.
 
2013-08-30 05:43:06 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?

Good point. Agree totally. How much should we cut social security benefits so that it'll be solvent and younger generations won't get stuck with the bill? 5%? 10% 15?


It's the Social Security uncertainty principal.

If a boomer depends on it, then it's an entitlement program used by old leeches who don't deserve young America's hard-earned money. If some TP-er attacks it, then he wants grandma to die on the street.
 
2013-08-30 05:43:42 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?

Good point. Agree totally. How much should we cut social security benefits so that it'll be solvent and younger generations won't get stuck with the bill? 5%? 10% 15?


What does Paul Ryan say?
 
2013-08-30 05:44:26 PM

Yakk:

MooseUpNorth: derpy: One anarchist group got $4,000. Still trying to wrap my mind around an organized anarchy group with funding. [userserve-ak.last.fm image 400x300] This is what immediately popped into my head.

There was an Anarchists' Club on the Michigan State University campus a while back.  They decided they wanted the benefits (free room, power, and a small stipend) that other political clubs got, and applied.   MSU told them they'd have to elect a president in order to receive benefits.  Classic!

So they put in a system whereby the last person to show up at the meeting each month was the president of the club for the next month.  Satisfied MSU, and their quirky sense of power issues.  Apparently, it also increased on-time arrivals for the meetings.  Win, win, win.   Plus, lots of people got to put "President of the Anarchists' Club" on their resumes....  </CSB>

 
2013-08-30 05:44:39 PM
"The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.
 
2013-08-30 05:46:25 PM

rko281: Except they were forced to pay into this with their tuition and now the liberals are stealing their money at disbursement time to shut them up.


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2013-08-30 05:46:29 PM
"Why do we need a zoo when we could just put up a fence around Chapel Hill?" - Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC)
 
2013-08-30 05:46:39 PM
Maybe the little b*tches can open a water park filled with their tears.
 
2013-08-30 05:46:39 PM
Wait till they find out that College Republicans can't vote in local elections.
 
2013-08-30 05:46:48 PM
Elections Have Consequences. I remember when I was in college student government and our coalition ran the show. I was going to smoke ins in DC. Went and saw Mandela in ATL. right after his release. We sponsored friends organization to go protest for Lenard Peltier.

The outgoing greek lead party had conniptions.  HAHAHAHAAAA  HA


/HA
 
2013-08-30 05:48:47 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Corvus: What's funny, is my Republican friends are also the first one who cry about lack of government services (at least for them). I had one friend biatching that they should increase hours on trolly lines until 2 am. When I had explained to him that they are cutting funding for things like schools and he is against any tax increases and ask him how would they pay for it, he did the ol' "That's just a ploy, they have lots of money they are just cutting it from important things to get back at us".

I hear that shiat all the time from my conservative family members. Its farking mystifying to them that voting down tax increases and biatching about government spending can actually cut government spending.

On the other hand, i always observe liberals asking for more spending and whining about how terrible it is when spending is cut. But ask them to chip in a little bit by funding it with a VAT or sales tax increase and you are almost always met with indignation.

Apparently the programs aren't really that important if we aren't willing to pay for them!


Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.  I'd be fine with a larger income tax though, even if it meant I pay more myself.  The data clearly shows that those in the top income brackets are gaining and retaining far more wealth than the middle and working class though, and that the rates at which they're doing so is increasing, so if I accept a tax increase on my own middle class income, I expect a larger tax increase on the upper tax brackets and capital gains to help balance out the wealthy inequality and make those people feel it as much as the average citizen does.
 
2013-08-30 05:48:50 PM

James!: Thank god Townhall is keeping us informed infromed on this very important schoolyard gossip.


FTFY
 
2013-08-30 05:49:43 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.

Generation Gimmie? You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill? That generation gimmie?

Good point. Agree totally. How much should we cut social security benefits so that it'll be solvent and younger generations won't get stuck with the bill? 5%? 10% 15?


100%, then with our fantasy dollars because there is no way that will happen, we can pay off the war in syria.
 
2013-08-30 05:49:46 PM

NightSteel:

"The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.

So, you prefer intolerance put into action, as compared with intolerance claimed for others? So, you like to claim Republicans are racists, but ignore the fact that Democrats founded the KKK and the Jim Crow laws, right?
 
2013-08-30 05:51:47 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.


To him that isn't a bug it's a feature.  We have to stick it to the poor so they won't want to be poor anymore.
 
2013-08-30 05:52:13 PM

SenorBenedict: You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill?


How do you figure? Let's take into account that many if not most have been filling the lock box for 60+ years.
 
2013-08-30 05:54:09 PM

HighOnCraic: [warthog.co.za image 550x308]

They should just borrow money from their parents. . .


I thought the thread was over... and then this. Oh man, that's gold.

/welcome to the "parents just didn't give you everything" real world. Sucks when Republicans try to oppress everyone else, huh?
//I mean, except the rich white old men, of course
 
2013-08-30 05:54:20 PM
That's not what it says!  These kind of "facts" belong on FOX, not FARK.
 
2013-08-30 05:54:55 PM
www.bluecollarphilosophy.com
If only I had checked the GAY box on my application.
 
2013-08-30 05:55:05 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.


That's not a bug.  That's a feature.
 
2013-08-30 05:56:39 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: TuteTibiImperes: Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.

That's not a bug.  That's a feature.


What we need is something called The Fair Tax.  The Fair Tax has "fair" right in the name.
 
2013-08-30 05:56:41 PM

Maynotlast: That's not what it says!  These kind of "facts" belong on FOX, not FARK.


You come here for facts? Bless your heart. That's just too precious.
 
2013-08-30 05:58:02 PM

clintster: Considering what their older brethren have done to education funding in North Carolina, I'd say 75% is a good start.


I was going to say something along those lines. Plus using Republican ideology this will just make them more efficient by forcing them to cut waste. You know, "starving the beast".
 
2013-08-30 06:00:47 PM
Is there a source for this article that isn't a Theocrat Party propaganda site?
 
2013-08-30 06:01:18 PM
Townhall?

*chortle*
 
2013-08-30 06:03:36 PM
 
2013-08-30 06:06:27 PM
Sounds like the student association applied a procedural cut to all of the organizations. In other words, student organizations request money, but all of the requests exceed the money allocated to the student association. So, the student association then cuts EVERY organization's funding by the same percentage to equal the allocations amount the student association actually has. Either that, or there was a specific reason to cut the funding request that Townhall, in its infinite journalistic integrity, didn't bother to investigate or report.

Did they receive less money than other orgs? Undoubtedly. Are the likely reasons for that entirely non discriminatory? Yes. I'd bet money that other conservative organizations on campus received more money, too.
 
2013-08-30 06:08:11 PM

GeneralJim: NightSteel: "The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.
So, you prefer intolerance put into action, as compared with intolerance claimed for others? So, you like to claim Republicans are racists, but ignore the fact that Democrats founded the KKK and the Jim Crow laws, right?


You sound very infromed.
 
2013-08-30 06:08:13 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: SenorBenedict: You mean the baby boomers and their looting of social security and sticking their children with the bill?

How do you figure? Let's take into account that many if not most have been filling the lock box for 60+ years.


Filling the lock box, than voting in politicians to loot it, and now sticking us with the bill for their politicians farking up. Social security was farked long before I was ever 18 to fix it, yet people in their 40's and 50's feel the need to shiat on my generation because "You damn kids just want everything handed to you".
 
2013-08-30 06:09:35 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: wee: Actually, that's not a bad idea for all the college groups.

Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.


Oh, you mean the Boomers?  I didn't think many of them were still in college anymore.
 
2013-08-30 06:10:43 PM

SenorBenedict: Filling the lock box, than voting in politicians to loot it, and now sticking us with the bill for their politicians farking up


That's YOUR money, isn't it?

Gimme gimme gimme.
 
2013-08-30 06:11:07 PM
Nobody is more intolerant than those who preach tolerance.
 
2013-08-30 06:14:59 PM
If you don't have a problem with this, you are certainly a hypocrite.  If the campus democrats or LGBT or any other group you like had funding reduced most would be screaming.  Like this group or not, they should not be singled out just as no other should be singled out.
 
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2013-08-30 06:15:18 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Indeed it is...but try to convince Generation Gimme that.


I mean, if tuition's getting too expensive, why not go look for private funding for campus groups?  Surely the RNC can kick down a couple grand or whatever.
 
2013-08-30 06:16:13 PM

homelessdude: I dunno, an anarchist group with a Facebook page? can't be all that radical.

From the UNControllables FB page.........
Description:
We are your local, UNC anarchists. We're also anti-authoritarians, anti-capitalists...


Which is pretty funny, as the only way to get rid of capitalism is to be extremely authoritarian.
 
2013-08-30 06:17:22 PM

Munchausen's Proxy: If you don't have a problem with this, you are certainly a hypocrite.  If the campus democrats or LGBT or any other group you like had funding reduced most would be screaming.  Like this group or not, they should not be singled out just as no other should be singled out.


They went from 12 grand to 3 grand, maybe they couldn't justify having the 12 grand and their budget got cut. Isn't that a good thing?
 
2013-08-30 06:17:36 PM

DrPainMD: Nobody is more intolerant than those who preach tolerance.


- Taylor Swift
 
2013-08-30 06:18:27 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Corvus: What's funny, is my Republican friends are also the first one who cry about lack of government services (at least for them). I had one friend biatching that they should increase hours on trolly lines until 2 am. When I had explained to him that they are cutting funding for things like schools and he is against any tax increases and ask him how would they pay for it, he did the ol' "That's just a ploy, they have lots of money they are just cutting it from important things to get back at us".

I hear that shiat all the time from my conservative family members. Its farking mystifying to them that voting down tax increases and biatching about government spending can actually cut government spending.

On the other hand, i always observe liberals asking for more spending and whining about how terrible it is when spending is cut. But ask them to chip in a little bit by funding it with a VAT or sales tax increase and you are almost always met with indignation.

Apparently the programs aren't really that important if we aren't willing to pay for them!

Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.  I'd be fine with a larger income tax though, even if it meant I pay more myself.


Then overpay. The IRS will gladly take your money.
 
2013-08-30 06:20:20 PM

NightSteel: "The same institutions preaching tolerance are the first to shut the door on conservative voices."

Maybe because conservative voices consistently preach INtolerance?

"You must tolerate my intolerance" doesn't fly too far with anyone of average or better intelligence.


Liberal voices also preach intolerance. Apparently, that intolerance must be tolerated.
 
2013-08-30 06:23:05 PM
Some more insight here from someone on the budget committee there (underlining mine):

...The CR request was cut in the 2nd biggest percentage in part because it was the 2nd largest request last night. The reality of UNC Student Congress Finance Committee is that we don't have enough money to fund everything, and we try to make our appropriations as widespread and helpful as we can. Part of this process is cutting large requests so that there will be money there in a few weeks when other groups' requests are heard. The only group who requested more money last night was UNControllables, who requested about $15,000 and received only $4,000. We cut their request down from 5 speakers to one. As much as I appreciate the irony of an anarchist group and conservative group requesting more money than anyone else on a given night from Student Government, the reality is that that means that most likely those groups will be cut the most-not because of their political leanings or missions, but because by definition the largest requests have the most to lose in the funding process. However, even though CR funding was cut by 5000 dollars last night, the amount received was just over $3,000 dollars. That isn't nothing, and is actually about 30% more than the average amount groups received last night. No discrimination took place, and it is sad to see again that Student Congress can't function around policy actions without devolving to accusations of discrimination and unfair bias. We should be better than this.
 
2013-08-30 06:24:14 PM
I graduated in May. While I was there they asked for $20,000 to  bring Ann Coulter for a speech and there was a huge amount of butthurt when that was declined. Pretty sure that group just exists to whine about persecution by libruls.
 
2013-08-30 06:25:25 PM

SenorBenedict: Munchausen's Proxy: If you don't have a problem with this, you are certainly a hypocrite.  If the campus democrats or LGBT or any other group you like had funding reduced most would be screaming.  Like this group or not, they should not be singled out just as no other should be singled out.

They went from 12 grand to 3 grand, maybe they couldn't justify having the 12 grand and their budget got cut. Isn't that a good thing?


In this case fair is the good thing.  You and others can hide behind the bootstrappy comments, but they don't negate this smacks of unfair to say the least.  If you can honestly say they you would not complain at all regardless of which group is singled out, I will call you a liar.
 
2013-08-30 06:26:10 PM

Somacandra: Some more insight here from someone on the budget committee there (underlining mine):

...The CR request was cut in the 2nd biggest percentage in part because it was the 2nd largest request last night. The reality of UNC Student Congress Finance Committee is that we don't have enough money to fund everything, and we try to make our appropriations as widespread and helpful as we can. Part of this process is cutting large requests so that there will be money there in a few weeks when other groups' requests are heard. The only group who requested more money last night was UNControllables, who requested about $15,000 and received only $4,000. We cut their request down from 5 speakers to one. As much as I appreciate the irony of an anarchist group and conservative group requesting more money than anyone else on a given night from Student Government, the reality is that that means that most likely those groups will be cut the most-not because of their political leanings or missions, but because by definition the largest requests have the most to lose in the funding process. However, even though CR funding was cut by 5000 dollars last night, the amount received was just over $3,000 dollars. That isn't nothing, and is actually about 30% more than the average amount groups received last night. No discrimination took place, and it is sad to see again that Student Congress can't function around policy actions without devolving to accusations of discrimination and unfair bias. We should be better than this.


TLDR, I'm still oppressed.  How else do you explain this meager income, disappointing marriage, and general feeling of powerlessness?
 
2013-08-30 06:26:19 PM
So they put in a rather large request, got more than the average amount, and then whined about persecution based on idealogy when it was more they put in an early request and the council had to budget for other requests after theirs.

Wow that seems rational and not at all some kind of stifling of conservaderp speech.
 
2013-08-30 06:28:19 PM

DrPainMD: TuteTibiImperes: Debeo Summa Credo: SenorBenedict: Corvus: What's funny, is my Republican friends are also the first one who cry about lack of government services (at least for them). I had one friend biatching that they should increase hours on trolly lines until 2 am. When I had explained to him that they are cutting funding for things like schools and he is against any tax increases and ask him how would they pay for it, he did the ol' "That's just a ploy, they have lots of money they are just cutting it from important things to get back at us".

I hear that shiat all the time from my conservative family members. Its farking mystifying to them that voting down tax increases and biatching about government spending can actually cut government spending.

On the other hand, i always observe liberals asking for more spending and whining about how terrible it is when spending is cut. But ask them to chip in a little bit by funding it with a VAT or sales tax increase and you are almost always met with indignation.

Apparently the programs aren't really that important if we aren't willing to pay for them!

Because VAT and Sales taxes are regressive.  I'd be fine with a larger income tax though, even if it meant I pay more myself.

Then overpay. The IRS will gladly take your money.


That's one of the most boneheaded arguments out there.  I'm willing to do my part, but the tax burden on the working and middle class is felt much more than it is by the extremely wealthy.  We need everyone to pay in to get things done, and I want the 1%s to feel it like everyone else.
 
2013-08-30 06:28:57 PM
step 1: attack the source
step 2: pretend it's not happening

this is the progressive response to every single criticism levied against their party or agenda. it's sad and pathetic.
 
2013-08-30 06:29:16 PM
2 things:  DNRTFA, but since this is Townhall, can I safely assume that the author has engaged in massive intellectual dishonesty here?

Secondly, since the state level Republicans are at war with Democrats, trying to keep them from voting, is it not fair for said Democrats to return fire, even if it's just some symbolic cheap shot?  Republicans are the only people who can punch you in the face and demand an apology for your nose hurting their fist.
 
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