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(STLToday)   MO Chamber of Commerce invites governor who is airing ads in Missouri to persuade businesses to move out of Missouri to Texas to speak on their behalf   (stltoday.com) divider line 48
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2013-08-30 05:51:38 PM  
Hey look, it's that guy who was too stupid to compete in a GOP primary debate that spends more time stirring shiat in Missouri than governing the state he was elected in. Let's make him the president.
 
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2013-08-30 05:51:48 PM  
Good.  They will have to import educated non-rednecks from outside of Texas thus turning Texas into a blue state.
 
2013-08-30 05:52:49 PM  
This isn't ironic, it is par for the course for the GOP
 
2013-08-30 05:55:17 PM  
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2013-08-30 05:55:34 PM  
You have to sort of ask yourself, if Texas is so despite to get these jobs, why does the state not have the infrastructure that creates the types of companies with good jobs in the first place?
 
2013-08-30 05:55:58 PM  
He is touting the fact that Texas doesn't have an income tax, so businesses should move there. He is skipping over the fact that Missouri has lower property taxes, lower fees, smaller class sizes, and better educational outcomes.

The MO Chamber of Commerce should be run out of town for hosting that turd.
 
2013-08-30 05:57:11 PM  
It's only ironic if you don't realize that the state and local Chamber of Commerce orgs only care about the world's top .1%.  They WANT a race to the bottom.
 
2013-08-30 06:09:26 PM  
The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.
 
2013-08-30 06:14:36 PM  

CruiserTwelve: The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.


I never could understand people who would listen and follow others who constantly spout off crap that is proven to be false.
 
2013-08-30 06:16:16 PM  
Texas is so poor as a state they are having to turned paved roads back into gravel because they can't afford to maintain them. But yes big business go to the cowboy state YEEHAW!
 
2013-08-30 06:23:36 PM  
Anyone wish to explain entropy to that fool?
 
2013-08-30 06:26:21 PM  
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2013-08-30 06:26:24 PM  
 
2013-08-30 06:28:28 PM  
Perry's snouting about is really nothing more but a reason for Gov. Nixon to take advantage of a useful tool to point out the actual differences (probably attract more business to Missouri).  `Trumping up' Texas will excite only those who really should take a hike.  Nixon has been an excellent Gov. who has been able to ride herd on the `trending derpwise legislature'.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/27/4440780/nixon-fires-back-at-per ry -you.html
 
2013-08-30 06:31:44 PM  
That chamber of commerce group has run a lot of TV ads lately.. 'stop spending, and start growing jobs'.  Those are contradictory goals, you fools.
 
2013-08-30 06:34:04 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope:


NY was 18th in job growth. According to that Scott Walker thread earlier in the day. Not as good as Texas but they won't be blown to smithereens.
 
2013-08-30 06:45:48 PM  
The USA is in the middle of an energy boom.
The price of oil and gas are high and new technologies are allowing Texas to tap new reserves.
The amount of oil being produced in the US is higher than ever and yet the price remains quite high.
Texas is also headquarters for bunch of oil companies that are currently making insane profits.
Texas is also home to a bunch of refineries and petrochemical plants.... allowing Texans to profit off wells drilled up in North Dakota.
None of these factors has ANYTHING to do with Rick Perry or his policies.
Hair-boy is taking credit for job growth that has nothing to do with him.
Don't listen to Rick Perry.  He is a fool.
 
2013-08-30 06:46:06 PM  
I missed the part where Perry also suggested putting a lot of easily accessed oil and gas under Missouri.

Texas: 48th in math education, 1st in high school stadium jumbo-tron size. Priorities, man.
 
2013-08-30 06:57:20 PM  
I would never move a business to a state where the majority of people were stupid enough to vote for Rick Perry.

/apologies to blue Texans, I know you're out there.
 
2013-08-30 07:10:46 PM  

ongbok: CruiserTwelve: The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.

I never could understand people who would listen and follow others who constantly spout off crap that is proven to be false.


Just to clarify, you believe, that raising/increasing the state's take/share of income, encourages the wealthy to put capital at risk?
 
2013-08-30 07:22:31 PM  
Let the shiat states fight over the scraps that the race to the bottom will get them. They aren't getting anything I want.
 
2013-08-30 07:40:24 PM  
So does tough love only work for those that have not earned their own way or it is effective for all human behavior?
 
2013-08-30 07:41:06 PM  
What does Perry know about anything other than being an abject failure?  Texas is in the toilet and getting worse, his drug addled primary performance speaks to deep personal problems and he's just a buffoon.  Kind odd to have him speak at anything.
 
2013-08-30 07:45:40 PM  

jso2897: Let the shiat states fight over the scraps that the race to the bottom will get them. They aren't getting anything I want.


Exactly.  Any company that would move to Texas to save a few bucks on tax is a shiatty company that's probably going to fark over their employees as hard as they can.
 
2013-08-30 07:45:49 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Just to clarify, you believe, that raising/increasing the state's take/share of income, encourages the wealthy to put capital at risk?


First, nobody is raising taxes. The governor is vetoing a tax cut.  Second, wealthy people will put capital at risk only if it will be profitable for them. Since they are already wealthy, there's no point in risking capital simply because they get a tax cut. It's just more money in their pockets. As long as spending remains low or flat there will be no reason to increase employment.

The real "job creators" are the middle class. If you put more money in their pockets they'll spend more, thus creating more jobs to provide the goods and services they spend it on. Cutting taxes for the rich simply makes them richer.

If it were true that the rich were "job creators," the unemployment rate would have dropped to nothing after the Bush tax cuts. Instead unemployment skyrocketed and the distribution of wealth shifted strongly to the already rich.

The way the government can create jobs is to spend. Build bridges, roads, buildings, etc. At first it will cost money, but as that money is spent it will create more jobs and more taxable income. As the economy grows stronger, the jobs can be shifted to the private sector and government spending can be reduced.
 
2013-08-30 07:46:48 PM  
That headline is a mess.
 
2013-08-30 07:51:29 PM  

CruiserTwelve: The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.


The excuse is that we just haven't cut them enough.
 
2013-08-30 07:59:23 PM  

Fart_Machine: CruiserTwelve: The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.

The excuse is that we just haven't cut them enough.


Also, too many job-killing regulations. And "uncertainty."
 
2013-08-30 07:59:31 PM  

jake_lex: jso2897: Let the shiat states fight over the scraps that the race to the bottom will get them. They aren't getting anything I want.

Exactly.  Any company that would move to Texas to save a few bucks on tax is a shiatty company that's probably going to fark over their employees as hard as they can.


This is a good point.  And as the shiatty business centralize in Texas, it makes it easier for the rest of the states to function without the shiat clogging up their economies.
 
2013-08-30 08:07:54 PM  

Infernalist: This is a good point. And as the shiatty business centralize in Texas, it makes it easier for the rest of the states to function without the shiat clogging up their economies.


It'll also set up an interesting effect where they'll need to draw revenue from sensible economies while tanking the Texas economy.
 
2013-08-30 08:16:06 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Zeb Hesselgresser: Just to clarify, you believe, that raising/increasing the state's take/share of income, encourages the wealthy to put capital at risk?

First, nobody is raising taxes. The governor is vetoing a tax cut.  Second, wealthy people will put capital at risk only if it will be profitable for them. Since they are already wealthy, there's no point in risking capital simply because they get a tax cut. It's just more money in their pockets. As long as spending remains low or flat there will be no reason to increase employment.

The real "job creators" are the middle class. If you put more money in their pockets they'll spend more, thus creating more jobs to provide the goods and services they spend it on. Cutting taxes for the rich simply makes them richer.

If it were true that the rich were "job creators," the unemployment rate would have dropped to nothing after the Bush tax cuts. Instead unemployment skyrocketed and the distribution of wealth shifted strongly to the already rich.

The way the government can create jobs is to spend. Build bridges, roads, buildings, etc. At first it will cost money, but as that money is spent it will create more jobs and more taxable income. As the economy grows stronger, the jobs can be shifted to the private sector and government spending can be reduced.


Had to repost this because it is so true.  I wish more people would realize that the Middle Class is the the economic engine, not the wealthy.
 
2013-08-30 08:19:45 PM  
 
2013-08-30 09:02:09 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: ongbok: CruiserTwelve: The chamber "is totally on the side of Missouri businesses. They do not agree that the governor should have vetoed a tax cut," said Perry. "They understand that if you reduce the tax burden on job creators," it spurs the economy.

Never mind that this has never, ever worked.

I never could understand people who would listen and follow others who constantly spout off crap that is proven to be false.

Just to clarify, you believe, that raising/increasing the state's take/share of income, encourages the wealthy to put capital at risk?


It doesn't matter were taxes are at. If there is a demand for their product, a company is going to invest capital to expand to meet that demand.
 
2013-08-30 09:18:33 PM  

ongbok: It doesn't matter were taxes are at. If there is a demand for their product, a company is going to invest capital to expand to meet that demand.


As long as people can afford to buy the product. No corporation is going to invest capital in a product that won't sell because it's too expensive. Raise the wages of the working class so they can afford to buy your products and the economy will grow.

Henry Ford had it right when he raised his employee's wages to a point where they could afford to buy the cars they were making. Everybody benefited from that.
 
2013-08-30 09:39:58 PM  

CruiserTwelve: ongbok: It doesn't matter were taxes are at. If there is a demand for their product, a company is going to invest capital to expand to meet that demand.

As long as people can afford to buy the product. No corporation is going to invest capital in a product that won't sell because it's too expensive. Raise the wages of the working class so they can afford to buy your products and the economy will grow.

Henry Ford had it right when he raised his employee's wages to a point where they could afford to buy the cars they were making. Everybody benefited from that.


That is the point about thinking that cutting taxes for corporations is going to get them to increase growth. That tax money that has to be made up somewhere, and that somewhere is going to be from increases in taxes on the working class. If the working class have less to spend of products, then demand for products doesn't increase, which means corporations aren't going to invest money to expand because there isn't any business need for them to expand.
 
2013-08-30 09:42:43 PM  
At this rate, we're going to have to call the Aristocrats joke "The Republicans."
 
2013-08-30 10:29:07 PM  

Cagey B: Hey look, it's that guy who was too stupid to compete in a GOP primary debate that spends more time stirring shiat in Missouri than governing the state he was elected in. Let's make him the president.


Can't we just lure him into the interior of an oil pipeline and turn the pressure on?

That would be more fun.
 
2013-08-30 10:41:59 PM  
Nixon needs some heavy one-liners:

-In Missouri schools, our children learn know how to hold 3 things in their head at once.
-If Rick Perry went to a Missouri school, he'd have gotten a lot further in the GOP primary.

/Excludes KC schools
 
2013-08-30 11:23:20 PM  
Perry has been making waves in Missouri recently with radio ads here touting Texas' business environment.

newsbusters.org
 
2013-08-31 12:27:38 AM  
Meanwhile in Texas, the Texas Department of Transportation is actually starting to un-pave roads that are getting torn up by all the oilfield traffic in the Eagle Ford shale region. Because the hugely profitable oil business can't be bothered to pay for the roads their trucks are tearing up. So we're going back to dirt roads.

Thanks Rick Perry.
 
2013-08-31 12:37:15 AM  

cepson: Meanwhile in Texas, the Texas Department of Transportation is actually starting to un-pave roads that are getting torn up by all the oilfield traffic in the Eagle Ford shale region. Because the hugely profitable oil business can't be bothered to pay for the roads their trucks are tearing up. So we're going back to dirt roads.

Thanks Rick Perry.


I imagine in the future, when gasoline is $45 a gallon and the Blue States are all using Tesla-style electric cars, the Red states will have all new Ford and Chevy endorsed lines of horse-driven carriages for sale.
 
2013-08-31 01:13:42 AM  

Infernalist: cepson: Meanwhile in Texas, the Texas Department of Transportation is actually starting to un-pave roads that are getting torn up by all the oilfield traffic in the Eagle Ford shale region. Because the hugely profitable oil business can't be bothered to pay for the roads their trucks are tearing up. So we're going back to dirt roads.

Thanks Rick Perry.

I imagine in the future, when gasoline is $45 a gallon and the Blue States are all using Tesla-style electric cars, the Red states will have all new Ford and Chevy endorsed lines of horse-driven carriages for sale.


As gas surpasses $20/gal and the world is in flames, Texas will be standing strong on not allowing Tesla to sell in Texas.
 
2013-08-31 02:07:23 AM  

johnryan51: DarkSoulNoHope:

NY was 18th in job growth. According to that Scott Walker thread earlier in the day. Not as good as Texas but they won't be blown to smithereens.


Yeah, but Lewis Black had it right. F*ck Texas!
 
2013-08-31 03:38:15 AM  

fenianfark: He is touting the fact that Texas doesn't have an income tax, so businesses should move there. He is skipping over the fact that Missouri has lower property taxes, lower fees, smaller class sizes, and better educational outcomes.

The MO Chamber of Commerce should be run out of town for hosting that turd.


Yes. Any area CoC that encourages its businesses to leave its area should be taken down, and taken down hard. They are acting against their own best interests.
 
2013-08-31 09:51:36 AM  

IlGreven: fenianfark: He is touting the fact that Texas doesn't have an income tax, so businesses should move there. He is skipping over the fact that Missouri has lower property taxes, lower fees, smaller class sizes, and better educational outcomes.

The MO Chamber of Commerce should be run out of town for hosting that turd.

Yes. Any area CoC that encourages its businesses to leave its area should be taken down, and taken down hard. They are acting against their own best interests.


Taken down by who? They're private organizations.
 
2013-08-31 12:29:30 PM  
Nixon, you dolt!
 
2013-08-31 01:18:46 PM  

vpb: Good.  They will have to import educated non-rednecks from outside of Texas thus turning Texas into a blue state.


"So your economy is doing better than other states' economies, huh? Well ... uh ... YOU'RE STUPID! AND YOU'RE REDNECKS!" Jesus, try out some new themes once in a while lefties, or you might as well replace yourselves with a Perl script.
 
2013-08-31 04:56:02 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: IlGreven: fenianfark: He is touting the fact that Texas doesn't have an income tax, so businesses should move there. He is skipping over the fact that Missouri has lower property taxes, lower fees, smaller class sizes, and better educational outcomes.

The MO Chamber of Commerce should be run out of town for hosting that turd.

Yes. Any area CoC that encourages its businesses to leave its area should be taken down, and taken down hard. They are acting against their own best interests.

Taken down by who? They're private organizations.


And they're basically saying that they want to go out of business by supporting Rick Perry.
 
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