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2013-08-30 11:59:31 AM
 
2013-08-30 12:24:09 PM
Somebody pointed out in a football forum yesterday that the UNC-USCe game was suspended for longer than Manziel.
 
2013-08-30 12:48:58 PM
Can we start using "a manziel" as a laughably short time the way we use "a favre" to mean a laughably short length?
 
2013-08-30 12:51:36 PM
Not Matt Leinarts time with the bills
 
2013-08-30 12:53:06 PM
Sexual intercourse with Johnny Manziel's mother.
 
2013-08-30 12:54:55 PM
The kessel run
 
2013-08-30 12:57:40 PM
Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.
 
2013-08-30 01:01:35 PM

uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


bjmendelson.com
 
2013-08-30 01:02:52 PM

uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.



dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....
 
2013-08-30 01:05:48 PM

rickythepenguin: uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....


one is a quarterblack?
 
2013-08-30 01:08:29 PM
Manziel is miserable at A&M and his draft stock is falling on a daily basis with all of this controversy. All so he can risk getting hurt in college and live like a pauper. F*ck that. He should drop out, sign all the autographs for cash he can to live on, and save his body until he is a eligible. If he truly wants a degree he can get one after his NFL retirement. Staying on now is just hurting him.
 
2013-08-30 01:11:09 PM
121 "encounters" with Rick Pitino?
 
2013-08-30 01:11:52 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: one is a quarterblack?


come again?
 
2013-08-30 01:12:26 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Manziel is miserable at A&M and his draft stock is falling on a daily basis with all of this controversy. All so he can risk getting hurt in college and live like a pauper. F*ck that. He should drop out, sign all the autographs for cash he can to live on, and save his body until he is a eligible. If he truly wants a degree he can get one after his NFL retirement. Staying on now is just hurting him.


Live like a pauper?  Son, he was born into the Mob.
 
2013-08-30 01:14:01 PM
Will Johnny Football Paycheck be selling autographs in a booth during the first half of the A&M - Rice game?
 
2013-08-30 01:19:46 PM
fark it, I hope my Buckeyes are taking notes on "how to be successful" in this new age of NCAA football. If it's a cheaters game, we might as well start doing it right instead of having the book thrown at us for laughably petty violations.

Straight cash homie, buy all the athletes you want, NCAA gives no farks about that minor stuff. Just don't you dare get any discounts on your tattoos. That is simply unacceptable.

I wonder how long it will be before some of these previously punished athletes bring a lawsuit over the completely nonsensical and random application of the rules over the last few years. One guy's half a game is another guy's half a season. Seems legit.
 
2013-08-30 01:20:56 PM

rickythepenguin: uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....


The Heisman Trophy?  Evidence of wrong doing?
 
2013-08-30 01:23:07 PM
Spaced Cowboy:  previously punished athletes bring a lawsuit over the completely nonsensical and random application of the rules over the last few years. One guy's half a game is another guy's half a season. Seems legit.

dez 10 games for lying to the NCAA when no money changed hands?  and i don't give a shiat about Oklahoma or wherever he played, or the cowboys for that matter.  his team doesn't mean dick to me.  but the NCAA sat him for 10 games about lying, and then they're looking the other way on manziel?

(and just as i don't care about okalahoma, i also don't care about A&M.  i would like to see some integrity or consistency from teh NCAA, but i know that won't happen.)
 
2013-08-30 01:24:41 PM

cettin: The Heisman Trophy? Evidence of wrong doing?



yeha, one of the conspiracy theories was the NCAA doesn't want to jeopardize the "can johnny football repeat?" storyline and/or create "johnny vs. jadeveon" hype.
 
2013-08-30 01:25:06 PM
One phone call to Canon tech support on a brand new wireless printer...They're not in India, but, jeebus, they're the most clueless asshats I've had to deal with, support-wise, and that's saying A LOT.
 
2013-08-30 01:34:12 PM

rickythepenguin: Representative of the unwashed masses: one is a quarterblack?

come again?


just seeing if people read closely.  I know it's actually the opposite!
 
2013-08-30 01:36:17 PM

Lifeless: Live like a pauper?  Son, he was born into the Mob.


The strange thing is, if his parents are so wealthy, why sign autographs for money and a risk a sh*tstorm?
 
2013-08-30 01:38:18 PM
Let's just call it what it is.

If the NCAA investigates this any further, they're going to get a smoking gun somewhere. If they do, it's bad for the NCAA, it's bad for the TV partners, and it's bad for the fans who want to see him play. Anyone who thinks the NCAA is consistent with enforcement is seriously deluded. It's all about business, folks, and it's a farking joke.

And, TBH, he should be able to make some money off his own name. He seems to me like an entitled asshole, but I'm sorta on his side of this argument.
 
2013-08-30 01:40:36 PM

oh_please: If the NCAA investigates this any further, they're going to get a smoking gun somewhere.



yet another theory i heard, on jay mohr yesterday.  and a local show said one of the dirty little secrets in college football is THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME and the NCAA wants to look, but not look too closely.
 
2013-08-30 01:41:24 PM
What, we really thought the NCAA was going to get rid of their #1 cash cow for the season? Yeah, right.

NCAA cares about one thing above all else, $$$.
 
2013-08-30 01:41:38 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Lifeless: Live like a pauper?  Son, he was born into the Mob.

The strange thing is, if his parents are so wealthy, why sign autographs for money and a risk a sh*tstorm?


Clearly he wanted to subscribe to a few porn sites and he didn't want his parents to know.
 
2013-08-30 01:44:02 PM
meh.  why suspend him?  he didn't do shiat.  and if he did, even better.  after all, he's just preparing to go pro in something else besides football.  he's not going to make it in the nfl, so why not start prepping for the texas sport memorabilia tours of his future?  think of it as a chemistry class, but with even dorkier middle age white guys.

/also, selling your likeness shouldn't be against ncaa rules.
//fark the ncaa...
 
2013-08-30 01:48:51 PM

Spaced Cowboy: fark it, I hope my Buckeyes are taking notes on "how to be successful" in this new age of NCAA football. If it's a cheaters game, we might as well start doing it right instead of having the book thrown at us for laughably petty violations.

Straight cash homie, buy all the athletes you want, NCAA gives no farks about that minor stuff. Just don't you dare get any discounts on your tattoos. That is simply unacceptable.

I wonder how long it will be before some of these previously punished athletes bring a lawsuit over the completely nonsensical and random application of the rules over the last few years. One guy's half a game is another guy's half a season. Seems legit.


maybe ohio state should hire a coach that won't sign is name to a document stating he knows of no violations when he wrote emails about his plans to cover violations up.  players should get cash for autographs or free tattoos.  head coaches probably should lie to their bosses and the ncaa.  it's not hard to cheat; cash and burner phones.  don't be a tard about it.
 
2013-08-30 01:51:02 PM

A Fark Handle: meh.  why suspend him?  he didn't do shiat.  and if he did, even better.  after all, he's just preparing to go pro in something else besides football.  he's not going to make it in the nfl, so why not start prepping for the texas sport memorabilia tours of his future?  think of it as a chemistry class, but with even dorkier middle age white guys.

/also, selling your likeness shouldn't be against ncaa rules.
//fark the ncaa...


It does seem over-reaching.  Perhaps the rule should be ammended that while a student you can't sign anything with NCAA uniforms or affiliations?  Or that all money earned has to be placed in a trust you can't get at until out of school up to a maximum (say 100k?)  Let the kid earn some money but not anything excessive.
 
2013-08-30 01:52:31 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Lifeless: Live like a pauper?  Son, he was born into the Mob.

The strange thing is, if his parents are so wealthy, why sign autographs for money and a risk a sh*tstorm?


Never underestimate the power of Stupid.
 
2013-08-30 01:52:56 PM

robsul82: Clearly he wanted to subscribe to a few porn sites and he didn't want his parents to know.


LoL - he could probably *create* a few porn sites with all the poontang he's getting.
 
2013-08-30 02:05:47 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: rickythepenguin: uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....

one is a quarterblack?


Exactly. The only color that matters to these farkers is green
 
2013-08-30 02:10:42 PM
On the one hand I say let him sign autographs for money if someone is willing to pay him.
On the other hand I can see how this would be abused by every unscrupulous booster in the country to pay recruits.
 
2013-08-30 02:13:14 PM

rickythepenguin: oh_please: If the NCAA investigates this any further, they're going to get a smoking gun somewhere.


yet another theory i heard, on jay mohr yesterday.  and a local show said one of the dirty little secrets in college football is THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME and the NCAA wants to look, but not look too closely.


Only only has to look on Ebay to see all the authenticated college football players autographed items. Sure, a lot of them could have been signed with no money or other benefits changing hands but does NCAA want to investigate all of them? No freaking way.
 
2013-08-30 02:15:53 PM

rickythepenguin: uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....


Evidence, Heisman trophy, the potential outlash, the current state of the NCAA, Manziel is white, he's a quarterback, SEC,his parents are rich and white, um... that's off the top of my head. But the ONLY reason they get away with it is the first one. No evidence. It's all circumstantial because "Straight Cash Homey."

NCAA is a farking joke right now.
 
2013-08-30 02:18:00 PM

rickythepenguin: uncleacid: Does the NCAA even know how stupid it looks.


dez bryant:  10 games for lying about a lunch with Deion
aj green:  4 games for selling a signed jersey
johnny manziel:  30 minutes

hmm...what sets them apart....hmmmmm.......hmm....


Cam Newton?
 
2013-08-30 02:19:30 PM
That's gonna be a great What I Learned speech to his teammates.
 
2013-08-30 02:30:38 PM

Krymson Tyde: On the other hand I can see how this would be abused by every unscrupulous booster in the country to pay recruits.


yeah, it would terrible if a school paid 200K and an suv or two for a defensive tackle from memphis...

/what's wrong with players getting a cut?
//i would go wherever mr booster paid me to, and there's nothing wrong with that.
///after all that's why the schools give scholarships and build lockers with ps3s/xboxes in them.
 
2013-08-30 02:39:03 PM

A Fark Handle: Krymson Tyde: On the other hand I can see how this would be abused by every unscrupulous booster in the country to pay recruits.

yeah, it would terrible if a school paid 200K and an suv or two for a defensive tackle from memphis...

/what's wrong with players getting a cut?
//i would go wherever mr booster paid me to, and there's nothing wrong with that.
///after all that's why the schools give scholarships and build lockers with ps3s/xboxes in them.


I've never defended Alabama regarding Albert Means, they deserved to be biatch slapped for that.

The problem I have with it is it basically guarantees boosters with the deepest pockets are going to often get the best athletes to come to their school.
I'm not naive, I know boosters there are boosters paying players all over the country, I would just like to keep it as limited as possible. Allowing pay-for-sign opens it up to huge bonuses which can only lead to inevitable problems.
 
2013-08-30 02:40:27 PM
Please excuse grammatical errors in grammar.
 
2013-08-30 02:52:11 PM
This is a good reminder of an alternative reason why they didn't give Heisman awards to underclassmen until very recently.

A Fark Handle: /what's wrong with players getting a cut?


If you really can't see the problems with this...wow.
 
2013-08-30 02:54:27 PM

Krymson Tyde: The problem I have with it is it basically guarantees boosters with the deepest pockets are going to often get the best athletes to come to their sch

ool.I'm not naive, I know boosters there are boosters paying players all over the country, I would just like to keep it as limited as possible. Allowing pay-for-sign opens it up to huge bonuses which can only lead to inevitable problems.

because the last recruiting rankings had toledo, idaho, and northern illnois as 1, 2, and 3 for 2013.  the schools with the deepest booster pockets already get the best players.  the difference would be that if there was more of an "olypmic" model the players might actually might get paid above the board.  who cares if the local car dealership wants to pay david ash 50k to appear in a poorly produced tv ad?

and what are the "inevitable problems?"  boosters going broke after a drunken recruit spending spree?  i'm ok with that...it's their money.  and won't the market correct eventually?  if old men want to hand out piles of cash to young men, what's the issue?  it's not like the young men actually have to do anything "immoral" for the cash.
 
2013-08-30 02:54:33 PM

Krymson Tyde: The problem I have with it is it basically guarantees boosters with the deepest pockets are going to often get the best athletes to come to their school.


They'd just have to establish a salary cap and other rules to create parity :-)
 
2013-08-30 02:58:06 PM

IAmRight: This is a good reminder of an alternative reason why they didn't give Heisman awards to underclassmen until very recently.

A Fark Handle: /what's wrong with players getting a cut?

If you really can't see the problems with this...wow.


no, i can't see what's wrong with people being allowed to receive what the market determines is a fair price for their appearance fees.  what's wrong with it?  if i wanted to pay you $2000 and expenses to appear at the next fark party would it be wrong for you to accept?

/maybe we should stop soiling college athletics with these athletic scholarships and go back to the gentlemen roots where if you couldn't afford college you didn't belong there.
 
2013-08-30 03:00:23 PM

A Fark Handle: and what are the "inevitable problems?"  boosters going broke after a drunken recruit spending spree?


I can't imagine why it might not be a good idea to have athletes more beholden to the rich person that's paying them than to the team they're playing for. It's also not a big deal for pros to owe a sh*tton of money to the mob, either.
 
2013-08-30 03:02:27 PM

A Fark Handle: maybe we should stop soiling college athletics with these athletic scholarships and go back to the gentlemen roots where if you couldn't afford college you didn't belong there.


Athletic scholarships are great.

Now, if you want to discuss the lowering of standards in order to admit athletes whose only business in college is to play sports, I'm wholeheartedly on the side of "f*ck that, ACTUAL student-athletes only."
 
2013-08-30 03:09:47 PM

IAmRight: A Fark Handle: and what are the "inevitable problems?"  boosters going broke after a drunken recruit spending spree?

I can't imagine why it might not be a good idea to have athletes more beholden to the rich person that's paying them than to the team they're playing for. It's also not a big deal for pros to owe a sh*tton of money to the mob, either.


it's probably not good that jordan got so much money from nike, i mean, what if phil knight wanted the rockets to win two championships?  or what about peyton manning getting all that money from the bronocs?  maybe the ownership group bet on the ravens last year?  just asking questions here...

why would they be beholden to a person that's already given them the cash?
 
2013-08-30 03:25:14 PM

A Fark Handle: or what about peyton manning getting all that money from the bronocs?


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A Fark Handle: why would they be beholden to a person that's already given them the cash?


Because rich people aren't going to give cash, NSA, to some damn kid who hasn't proven anything yet. Unless they're really, really, really stupid rich people. It's already bad enough when one super-rich donor wants to get in and start making athletic decisions because they're donating enough to the school. You're basically asking for 100x those headaches when each player has investors.

It would be interesting to start seeing, because it would be legal, some contracts where rich donors buy players for the schools, and then eventually have clauses where said player HAS to play a minimum of whatever number of downs.
 
2013-08-30 03:38:16 PM

IAmRight: A Fark Handle: or what about peyton manning getting all that money from the bronocs?

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A Fark Handle: why would they be beholden to a person that's already given them the cash?

Because rich people aren't going to give cash, NSA, to some damn kid who hasn't proven anything yet. Unless they're really, really, really stupid rich people. It's already bad enough when one super-rich donor wants to get in and start making athletic decisions because they're donating enough to the school. You're basically asking for 100x those headaches when each player has investors.

It would be interesting to start seeing, because it would be legal, some contracts where rich donors buy players for the schools, and then eventually have clauses where said player HAS to play a minimum of whatever number of downs.


there are lots of stupid rich people.  the schools can choose not to accept kids that are being paid. their choice.  after all team rules don't have to be the same as ncaa rules.  and a school/team/coach would have to be a god damn farktard to ever accept a "contract" that stipulated playing time...  there's a world of difference from a local car dealership paying johnny football to appear in tv spots, to the dealership calling plays/subs on 3rd and 4 in the 4th quarter.  the contract might be legal, but why the fark would it ever be signed?

and my point about peyton was he accepted a large sum of money to play football for the denver broncos. maybe the broncos ownership planned to have him throw games.  you can't prove that they weren't planning that...(oh the old can't prove a negative)  no one worries about rich nfl owners paying players to play.  why not?  are the players not beholden to them?
 
2013-08-30 04:09:32 PM

A Fark Handle: you can't prove that they weren't planning that...(oh the old can't prove a negative)  no one worries about rich nfl owners paying players to play.  why not?  are the players not beholden to them?


Because it would be in their interests for them to win, and because there would be huge ramifications for an owner ordering his players to throw a game? There's a difference between being paid by your employer and being paid by a third party with no real connection or liability (and no concern for your career).

A Fark Handle: and a school/team/coach would have to be a god damn farktard to ever accept a "contract" that stipulated playing time...


I'm sure they would start off rejecting them outright. Then there would be a "once in a lifetime" recruit where someone would be okay with it and then it would trickle down into others. I'm sure everyone wants high schoolers to start hiring agents and hawking them to schools. Seems like a good idea.
 
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