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(Las Vegas Sun)   California wildfires prompts unhealthy air warnings in Nevada. Air quality now rated between "casino" and "brothel"   (lasvegassun.com) divider line 27
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2013-08-30 07:52:16 AM  
Our Pompeii.
 
2013-08-30 07:55:22 AM  
Yeah. There's a giant fire. What are you going to do? Run away?
 
2013-08-30 08:09:40 AM  
Wake me when the air quality gets to "China".
 
2013-08-30 08:13:40 AM  
Not so much anymore, but I can remember nights not too long ago where I'd get home and want to burn my clothes.  I had at least two shirts that I couldn't wear any more because of the stench.  But, once I moved up to the $10 hookers, the problem eased up a LOT.
 
2013-08-30 08:14:48 AM  
So it smells like cigarettes and astroglide?
 
2013-08-30 08:37:58 AM  
It's ok. Even the wildfires in California have to be smog checked.
 
2013-08-30 08:57:02 AM  
With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.
 
2013-08-30 09:04:58 AM  

The Rim Fire has already burned about 200,000 acres in California. That's more area than everything inside Rt. 128. pic.twitter.com/u8hc6j3dbD

- Tim Caputo (@Tim_Caputo) August 30, 2013


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2013-08-30 09:05:04 AM  

capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.


That sounds really inconvenient.  Why don't they just have that forest fire somewhere else?  Better yet, why don't they just stop having them altogether? More trouble than they are worth if you ask me.
 
2013-08-30 09:27:59 AM  

tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

That sounds really inconvenient.  Why don't they just have that forest fire somewhere else?  Better yet, why don't they just stop having them altogether? More trouble than they are worth if you ask me.


Boy, you're right. Because there's nothing we can do about it, there's no need to recognize or be concerned about the adverse effects. Yes, our collective primary concern is for the firefighters risking their lives to control the blaze and to the residents and regional employees whose lives and livelihoods have been uprooted by the fire. If you're expecting us to ignore the physical, psychological, and financial harm this is doing to our community--never mind, I know. Welcome to FARK.
 
2013-08-30 09:30:23 AM  
I don't know what casinos you've been to, but the ones I've been to have had great air quality. Probably better than my apartment.
 
2013-08-30 11:03:05 AM  

capngroovy: tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

That sounds really inconvenient. Why don't they just have that forest fire somewhere else? Better yet, why don't they just stop having them altogether? More trouble than they are worth if you ask me.

Boy, you're right. Because there's nothing we can do about it, there's no need to recognize or be concerned about the adverse effects. Yes, our collective primary concern is for the firefighters risking their lives to control the blaze and to the residents and regional employees whose lives and livelihoods have been uprooted by the fire. If you're expecting us to ignore the physical, psychological, and financial harm this is doing to our community--never mind, I know. Welcome to FARK.


Yes, but the way you're wording your bellyaching makes it sound as if you're blaming someone, as if some kind of policy action or maybe asking it to please kindly stop burning now could have fixed all of this. Firefighters are stretched as thin as possible. What more do you want?

And yeah, zeroing in on adverse effects of something completely out of your control has been shown to be long-term psychologically damaging, so you might want to find something else to do with your head until you can take control again and start repairing the damage.
 
2013-08-30 11:06:26 AM  
In case you missed it, here's what the air quality was like outside my home in the sleepy town of Dayton, Nevada (outside Carson City) a few days ago:

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And here's some video of it:


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clicky poppy
 
2013-08-30 11:36:49 AM  
beginning to leak out this way, too.

I hate California. (always have)
 
2013-08-30 11:54:09 AM  

capngroovy: tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

That sounds really inconvenient.  Why don't they just have that forest fire somewhere else?  Better yet, why don't they just stop having them altogether? More trouble than they are worth if you ask me.

Boy, you're right. Because there's nothing we can do about it, there's no need to recognize or be concerned about the adverse effects. Yes, our collective primary concern is for the firefighters risking their lives to control the blaze and to the residents and regional employees whose lives and livelihoods have been uprooted by the fire. If you're expecting us to ignore the physical, psychological, and financial harm this is doing to our community--never mind, I know. Welcome to FARK.


Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.
 
2013-08-30 12:22:46 PM  

tetsoushima: Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.


Hey dumbass, you know how we know you didn't read the article?   Reno isn't particularly flammable, it is the freaking desert.  The fire is down by Yosemite, ~150 miles away.  That is like saying, "Crime is bad in Baltimore, so you better move out of Brooklyn"

It also isn't exactly new, it has been pretty bad for about 2 weeks.  Last weekend it was horrible, down to about 3/4 mile visibility (like yukichigai's photo above)
http://www.rgj.com/article/20130828/NEWS/308290026/Heavy-smoke-shows -n o-sign-letting-up-Reno-area

It has been a lot better the last couple days.  Still hazy, but if you look up, you see mostly blue.
 
2013-08-30 12:35:22 PM  

foxyshadis: capngroovy: tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

Yes, but the way you're wording your bellyaching makes it sound as if you're blaming someone, as if some kind of policy action or maybe asking it to please kindly stop burning now could have fixed all of this. Firefighters are stretched as thin as possible. What more do you want?

And yeah, zeroing in on adverse effects of something completely out of your control has been shown to be long-term psychologically damaging, so you might want to find something else to do with your head until you can take control again and start repairing the damage.


Perhaps it could be worded better, I'll concede that. I do not blame anybody for the fire and, as I've mentioned in previous threads about said fire, am grateful for the efforts of those fighting it. To those that are trivializing the impact on our region, I was simply trying to point out that, yes, there are legitimate areas of concern. Rest assured, I have plenty else to occupy my time and mind, but as you can extrapolate from Yukichigai's photos, it's hard to not be affected and a bit irritating when others are trivializing the effects. But then, as I said, welcome to FARK.

And to Tetsoushima, who said:  Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.

What, like maybe 220 miles away from the fire?
 
2013-08-30 12:50:40 PM  

capngroovy: foxyshadis: capngroovy: tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

Yes, but the way you're wording your bellyaching makes it sound as if you're blaming someone, as if some kind of policy action or maybe asking it to please kindly stop burning now could have fixed all of this. Firefighters are stretched as thin as possible. What more do you want?

And yeah, zeroing in on adverse effects of something completely out of your control has been shown to be long-term psychologically damaging, so you might want to find something else to do with your head until you can take control again and start repairing the damage.

Perhaps it could be worded better, I'll concede that. I do not blame anybody for the fire and, as I've mentioned in previous threads about said fire, am grateful for the efforts of those fighting it. To those that are trivializing the impact on our region, I was simply trying to point out that, yes, there are legitimate areas of concern. Rest assured, I have plenty else to occupy my time and mind, but as you can extrapolate from Yukichigai's photos, it's hard to not be affected and a bit irritating when others are trivializing the effects. But then, as I said, welcome to FARK.

And to Tetsoushima, who said:  Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.

What, like maybe 220 miles away from the fire?


Hey, you know what.  You're right, I'm being a twat.  I dnrtfa and it probably really does suck to deal with next to no visibility and have a hard time doing anything.  I woke up this morning with a foot of water in my basement (the main broke above the valve, so it had to be shut off from the street) and wanted to fight, Fark seemed as good a place as any.  You didn't sign up for a fire, nor do you wish other people to have their homes, lives, or livelihoods put in jeopardy by said fire.  You were venting a legitimate gripe, which, at the time, seemed small in comparison to the bigger issue here.  That being said, you have every right to feel like this sucks, and who the hell am I to give you a hard time about it?  I am (genuinely, without a trace of sarcasm) sorry.
 
2013-08-30 01:03:26 PM  

tetsoushima: capngroovy: foxyshadis: capngroovy: tetsoushima: capngroovy: With visibility dropping to a half mile, yeah we have cause for concern. It affects our health, it is driving precious tourism money away (rib cookoff, balloon races, and air races are the next three weekends), and, frankly, we are getting a bit stir crazy out here.

Yes, but the way you're wording your bellyaching makes it sound as if you're blaming someone, as if some kind of policy action or maybe asking it to please kindly stop burning now could have fixed all of this. Firefighters are stretched as thin as possible. What more do you want?

And yeah, zeroing in on adverse effects of something completely out of your control has been shown to be long-term psychologically damaging, so you might want to find something else to do with your head until you can take control again and start repairing the damage.

Perhaps it could be worded better, I'll concede that. I do not blame anybody for the fire and, as I've mentioned in previous threads about said fire, am grateful for the efforts of those fighting it. To those that are trivializing the impact on our region, I was simply trying to point out that, yes, there are legitimate areas of concern. Rest assured, I have plenty else to occupy my time and mind, but as you can extrapolate from Yukichigai's photos, it's hard to not be affected and a bit irritating when others are trivializing the effects. But then, as I said, welcome to FARK.

And to Tetsoushima, who said:  Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.

What, like maybe 220 miles away from the fire?

Hey, you know what.  You're right, I'm being a twat.  I dnrtfa and it probably really does suck to deal with next to no visibility and have a hard time doing anything.  I woke up this morning with a foot of water in my basement (the main broke above the valve, so it had to be shut off from the street) and wanted to fight, Fark seemed as ...


No worries, and I suppose I shouldn't be so sensitive--for that I WILL blame the smoke, if only for triggering  migraines.

 If I could get my sump pump to you in time to make a difference, I'd send it your way, but can certainly appreciate that frustration. I hope the damage is limited to the pipe and that the repair is quick and (relatively) painless.
 
2013-08-30 01:37:25 PM  
It really freaks the girls out if your wheezing before they get you to the back room.
 
2013-08-30 01:44:02 PM  

jack21221: I don't know what casinos you've been to, but the ones I've been to have had great air quality. Probably better than my apartment.


Yeah, I came to say basically this. Actually, the casinos are advertising 'fresh air and loose slots' now...

/I kid thee not
//But yeah, casinos usually have  really good filters, because not everyone can tolerate the smoke. For someone like me, it's mildly annoying most of the time; right now I look forward to being in a place with a good filtering system because it means I can breathe.

yukichigai: In case you missed it, here's what the air quality was like outside my home in the sleepy town of Dayton, Nevada (outside Carson City) a few days ago:

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And here's some video of it:


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clicky poppy


Seriously, that needs to go to the Historical Society or something, that was a freaky-ass day.

/But go check it out tonight--the stars are back! *glee*
 
2013-08-30 02:07:54 PM  

PsiChick: Yeah, I came to say basically this. Actually, the casinos are advertising 'fresh air and loose slots' now...

/I kid thee not
//But yeah, casinos usually have  really good filters, because not everyone can tolerate the smoke. For someone like me, it's mildly annoying most of the time; right now I look forward to being in a place with a good filtering system because it means I can breathe.


Not only that, but many casinos are either non-smoking or have a little heavily ventilated smoking area.
 
2013-08-30 02:38:46 PM  

jack21221: PsiChick: Yeah, I came to say basically this. Actually, the casinos are advertising 'fresh air and loose slots' now...

/I kid thee not
//But yeah, casinos usually have  really good filters, because not everyone can tolerate the smoke. For someone like me, it's mildly annoying most of the time; right now I look forward to being in a place with a good filtering system because it means I can breathe.

Not only that, but many casinos are either non-smoking or have a little heavily ventilated smoking area.


Where are you? I've never seen a non-smoking casino, most of them just are really well-ventilated and filtered. That's why they have fresh air in the smoke, they're already set up to handle fine smoke particles.

/And if you go to a big casino it actually is smelly, there's too many smokers for the ventilation to handle.
 
2013-08-30 04:43:54 PM  

PsiChick: Where are you? I've never seen a non-smoking casino, most of them just are really well-ventilated and filtered. That's why they have fresh air in the smoke, they're already set up to handle fine smoke particles.


http://www.delawarepark.com/about-us/

Non Smoking
Delaware Park is a Non Smoking facility. Delaware Park has set aside conveniently located areas where smoking will be permitted.
 
2013-08-30 05:27:46 PM  

jack21221: PsiChick: Where are you? I've never seen a non-smoking casino, most of them just are really well-ventilated and filtered. That's why they have fresh air in the smoke, they're already set up to handle fine smoke particles.

http://www.delawarepark.com/about-us/

Non Smoking
Delaware Park is a Non Smoking facility. Delaware Park has set aside conveniently located areas where smoking will be permitted.


Hunh. Cool.
 
2013-08-30 06:18:29 PM  

jack21221: PsiChick: Where are you? I've never seen a non-smoking casino, most of them just are really well-ventilated and filtered. That's why they have fresh air in the smoke, they're already set up to handle fine smoke particles.

http://www.delawarepark.com/about-us/

Non Smoking
Delaware Park is a Non Smoking facility. Delaware Park has set aside conveniently located areas where smoking will be permitted.


Far more effective than some of the "smoke-free" options we've seen out here. Shortly after Grand Sierra Resort announced their smoke-free section, I went to check it out. Basically, they were the oldest games on the floor in an area elevated  slightly above and directly adjacent to the smoking area. Basically as effective as the smoking sections on the old 707s.
 
2013-08-30 10:04:39 PM  

tetsoushima: Well, when you're done rescheduling the rib cook-off and the balloon race, consider moving somewhere less flammable.


Actually the fire is in California, far south of here.
 
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