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2013-08-30 10:10:04 AM
It sounds more like he was talking with them about their breakdown and some inattentive coont proceeded to run him over
 
2013-08-30 10:10:13 AM
How was he "shielding" them?  They were inside the car.  He was outside (I think?).  It sounds like he was just trying to help them with their broken-down car.
 
2013-08-30 10:10:15 AM
Sorry to see you get taken out while trying to help others. Your grandma is proud of you.
 
hej
2013-08-30 10:11:02 AM
Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."
 
2013-08-30 10:13:01 AM
Thanks for trying to make the world a better place.  Sorry to see it cost you your life.
 
2013-08-30 10:13:52 AM

hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."


Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...
 
2013-08-30 10:15:31 AM
 
2013-08-30 10:16:00 AM
Alternative headline: "Former sailor turned into road sausage by inattentive driver; anyone hungry for a hero?"
 
2013-08-30 10:18:34 AM
It's sad but yeah the dude didn't shield anyone from anything, some shiathead just ran him over while he was trying to help a family in need of help, a mildly heroic act on it's own.
 
2013-08-30 10:21:39 AM

LandOfChocolate: It sounds more like he was talking with them about their breakdown and some inattentive coont proceeded to run him over


This
 
2013-08-30 10:22:12 AM

chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...


Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor
 
2013-08-30 10:22:19 AM

chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...


I think you meant to say Marines.

;)
 
2013-08-30 10:24:08 AM
Yeah, he shielded them.
 
2013-08-30 10:24:10 AM
My hometown.  Bland Blvd. is a fairly busy road people use to cut between the two main roads through town.  It's two lanes each way, with no shoulder to pull over on at it's busiest stretch.  There's one overpass where you are kind of blind coming over the top of it.  If you broke down right on the other side of that, I could see it being very dangerous.
 
2013-08-30 10:25:40 AM
Navy sailor as opposed to maybe Air Force sailor?
 
2013-08-30 10:27:56 AM
He was strong to the finish
 
2013-08-30 10:28:19 AM

LandOfChocolate: It sounds more like he was talking with them about their breakdown and some inattentive coont proceeded to run him over


This is what I got out of it as well.  Especially since the occupants weren't hurt by the crash.  He's a good guy for stopping to help but not a hero.
 
2013-08-30 10:28:46 AM

Crewmannumber6: Navy sailor as opposed to maybe Air Force sailor?


Or an America's cup guy...
 
2013-08-30 10:28:51 AM
Appropriate use of the Hero tag by Fark. How rare as it is normally is reserved for somebody doing something gayish or stoner like.
 
2013-08-30 10:28:59 AM
Translation:  A guy who someone loved got killed by someone inattentive.

I hate "glurges."  There are real examples of people doing heroic things, there's no need to pump up a perfectly ordinary story by attaching extraordinary falsehoods to it.
 
2013-08-30 10:29:47 AM
 
2013-08-30 10:30:18 AM
I know we've now been conditioned to think of anyone in the armed forces as some sort of autohero to be held in awe and all, but the guy was standing by the road and got hit by a vehicle. That doesn't make him a hero.

The vast majority of people who join the military do it simply to have a job.
 
2013-08-30 10:32:54 AM

TheAlgebraist: chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...

Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor


No, they're part of the Department of the Navy.

/the men's department.
 
2013-08-30 10:32:56 AM
Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.
 
2013-08-30 10:33:59 AM

Disgruntled Goat: I know we've now been conditioned to think of anyone in the armed forces as some sort of autohero to be held in awe and all, but the guy was standing by the road and got hit by a vehicle. That doesn't make him a hero.

The vast majority of people who join the military do it simply to have a job.


Yeah, but you tell them they're heroes so that they won't mind it so much when you underpay them, forget about them when they come home, underfund all their veterans programs etc.
 
2013-08-30 10:36:27 AM

Headso: Crewmannumber6: Navy sailor as opposed to maybe Air Force sailor?

Or an America's cup guy...


Well there is Navy pilot so why not Air Force sailor?
 
2013-08-30 10:44:28 AM

Molavian: TheAlgebraist: chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...

Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor

No, they're part of the Department of the Navy.

/the men's department.


"My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment"
 
2013-08-30 10:45:29 AM

TheAlgebraist: chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...

Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor


Yea, men's division.
 
2013-08-30 10:51:29 AM

Crewmannumber6: Navy sailor as opposed to maybe Air Force sailor?


As an Air Force vet, I can attest to the fact that a lot of people in the USAF "can't swim"
/Trained Seals, believe it or now.
 
2013-08-30 10:53:38 AM
That really sucks. This happened to a Co worker a few years back in the way to Chicago for a funeral. I believe they were in Indiana his wife was driving she hit ice and their SUV flipped. He was helping his wife and pre teen son out when another car spun in the ice and he was hit and killed instantly.

When l read the headline l figured it was his personal family. No way l would be out in the open in the road for strangers. Too many non driving, texting morans out there!

I would suggest everyone carry emergency road triangles like big rigs do. They are cheap under 20 bucks at Harbor Freight. Also like they say in Interstate 76: "never, ever get out of the car"


/That is not flipped or unsafe.
 
2013-08-30 10:54:17 AM

croesius: Molavian: TheAlgebraist: chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...

Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor

No, they're part of the Department of the Navy.

/the men's department.

"My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment"


I love it when the branches fight. Like watching a bunch of siblings bicker over who is the best offspring in their parents' eyes.

/siding with the Navy here
//Dad was a QMC
 
2013-08-30 10:54:51 AM

TheAlgebraist: Disgruntled Goat: I know we've now been conditioned to think of anyone in the armed forces as some sort of autohero to be held in awe and all, but the guy was standing by the road and got hit by a vehicle. That doesn't make him a hero.

The vast majority of people who join the military do it simply to have a job.

Yeah, but you tell them they're heroes so that they won't mind it so much when you underpay them, forget about them when they come home, underfund all their veterans programs etc.


This has pretty much always been my take on it.
 
2013-08-30 10:59:16 AM

advex101: Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.


they were just showing up for work
 
2013-08-30 11:00:18 AM
a woman driving a van hit him and the vehicle

Come on Fark, you're slipping.
 
2013-08-30 11:01:15 AM

Beeblebrox: He's a good guy for stopping to help but not a hero.


You are wrong.

HE.RO
1.a pers'on, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

Stopping to help someone was more than anyone else did as they drove by.
/always stop to help women
//especially if they have kids
///dudes, you're on your own. Suck it up
////Yes, it IS a double standard
 
2013-08-30 11:06:36 AM
Navy sailor versus merchant marine sailor...
 
2013-08-30 11:08:02 AM

AirForceVet: From another article, same story

"I wish I could've met him. To me he's a hero because he really helped my girls out. From what my daughter was telling me how things went, he pretty much pushed her out the way from what she was telling me," said Valerie Robinson. "I'm sorry that things happened the way it did. He's a hero to me. I'm going to always think about him."


And, as another article linked in this thread noted, Robinson is 22...that's a little kid he pushed out of the way. If she wants to think of this man as a hero, I'm OK with it.
 
2013-08-30 11:10:04 AM
Just the fact that he was trying to help give him thumbs up from me. Maybe it's because I was raised in a rural area, a farm kid, but that's what everyone used to do. It's hard to find someone who would do that now.

As someone who tried to join the Navy, but who's eyes would not pass the physical, and is proud that my father served as a Corpsman, what he did is in the best tradition of the Navy.
 
2013-08-30 11:11:28 AM

Farking Sweet: That really sucks. This happened to a Co worker a few years back in the way to Chicago for a funeral. I believe they were in Indiana his wife was driving she hit ice and their SUV flipped. He was helping his wife and pre teen son out when another car spun in the ice and he was hit and killed instantly.

When l read the headline l figured it was his personal family. No way l would be out in the open in the road for strangers. Too many non driving, texting morans out there!

I would suggest everyone carry emergency road triangles like big rigs do. They are cheap under 20 bucks at Harbor Freight. Also like they say in Interstate 76: "never, ever get out of the car"


/That is not flipped or unsafe.


I guess you haven't heard about police getting struck even with their lit up patrol cars blocking as a warning to motorists.  If idiots won't notice a full car with flashing lights, what makes you think they will notice an orange triangle less than a square foot.  The hazard lights are enough unless you are on a tight curve.  It does suck when folks aren't able to get away from the road.
 
2013-08-30 11:16:20 AM

TheAlgebraist: chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...

Oh, don't be pedantic, marines are a type of sailor


Saying that at a bar will get your ass kicked.
 
2013-08-30 11:20:09 AM

kvinesknows: advex101: Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.

they were just showing up for work


The difference is that they were aware of a dangerous situation from the get go.    Some jobs are by definition have a "heroic" aspect.  It's a touchy subject with some but I think that people are tagged as heroes too often.  It cheapens the term.
 
2013-08-30 11:23:22 AM

AirForceVet: From another article, same story

"I wish I could've met him. To me he's a hero because he really helped my girls out. From what my daughter was telling me how things went, he pretty much pushed her out the way from what she was telling me," said Valerie Robinson. "I'm sorry that things happened the way it did. He's a hero to me. I'm going to always think about him."


Thanks for the link.
Was about to come in here and say the same thing as the Boobies.
The link should be changed for the one you provided.
 
2013-08-30 11:26:58 AM

advex101: kvinesknows: advex101: Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.

they were just showing up for work

The difference is that they were aware of a dangerous situation from the get go.    Some jobs are by definition have a "heroic" aspect.  It's a touchy subject with some but I think that people are tagged as heroes too often.  It cheapens the term.


Would they be considered heros if the buildings never fell?
 
2013-08-30 11:29:08 AM

chaosweaver: hej: Alternative headline; "Former Navy sailor honestly thought he'd be able to stop a speeding car with his bare hands."

Everyone knows that only marines can do that, Jeeze...


Marines don't use their hands, hell, they dont need guns! They rip their clothes off, have a massive erection and swat the enemy bullets (or vans in this case) with their massive rock hard dicks! Or so a drunken Marine told me once.

/GO ARMY!
//ducks
 
2013-08-30 11:30:40 AM

Crewmannumber6: Navy sailor as opposed to maybe Air Force sailor?


What an Air Force sailor may look like:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-30 11:34:49 AM
This is why when your vehicle breaks down, you get out of it and far away from the roadway.
 
2013-08-30 11:35:13 AM
Another kind of sailor:
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-30 11:35:26 AM

kvinesknows: advex101: kvinesknows: advex101: Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.

they were just showing up for work

The difference is that they were aware of a dangerous situation from the get go.    Some jobs are by definition have a "heroic" aspect.  It's a touchy subject with some but I think that people are tagged as heroes too often.  It cheapens the term.

Would they be considered heros if the buildings never fell?


I don't think that because you chose to be there in that situation makes you not a hero.  Some may be less heroic based upon individual actions than others but I think the fact that you knew the building was on fire when you chose to go in means that you knew that you were potentially putting your life at risk in the service of others.  That's kind of heroic.
 
2013-08-30 11:36:21 AM

advex101: kvinesknows: advex101: Not trying to put too fine a point on this and I appreciate what he was doing when he was run over but he was no more a hero than the folks who died on 9/11 whose heroic act consisted of showing up for work that day.  The first responders who went up into the burning towers, different story.

they were just showing up for work

The difference is that they were aware of a dangerous situation from the get go.    Some jobs are by definition have a "heroic" aspect.  It's a touchy subject with some but I think that people are tagged as heroes too often.  It cheapens the term.


Are you a firefighter?? Those I consider heroes mostly across the board. The majority of the firefighters in the US are volunteers. As in not in on a major city's payroll, and have to drop what they are doing and use their own time, equipment, vehicles, and money to save lives and property. Many are crosstrained as EMTs as well. This is not their career, but they do it to protect their community. That is the definition of heroism.

I'll go to the mat on this one.
 
2013-08-30 11:42:29 AM
Was this the guy?

i641.photobucket.com
 
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