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2013-08-30 12:01:24 AM
People actually watch the special features?
 
2013-08-30 12:14:58 AM

Aar1012: People actually watch the special features?


Oh, I do! Especially gag reels.

Another dick move studios will do is block all the extras on the rental copy.

But splitting the extra features like this? That's just wicked.

/I was just gonna Netflix it anyway
 
2013-08-30 01:03:00 AM
The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.

I have no problem with a cheaper 'basic' release that just has the movie and a 'special edition' that has the special features, but making three different versions that all have different features?  Yeah, that's bullshiat.
 
2013-08-30 01:13:13 AM
I liked it a lot better on a second viewing. I didn't know Khan was in it the first time, so when he said, I'm Khan, I was like wtf? and then I got sort of taken out of the movie, and the homages didn't help, sheesh. But knowing it this time I could appreciate it more. Still should have made him a unique villain though.
 
2013-08-30 01:49:30 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.


I wouldn't have said "great", but it was pretty decent. Definitely an entertaining sci-fi-ish action movie, and stands up okay as a Star Trek movie.

Confabulat: I liked it a lot better on a second viewing. I didn't know Khan was in it the first time, so when he said, I'm Khan, I was like wtf? and then I got sort of taken out of the movie, and the homages didn't help, sheesh. But knowing it this time I could appreciate it more. Still should have made him a unique villain though.


Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of this. I actually didn't care for most of the homages, because it came across to me more like lazy recycling of material than homage to the original. Spock's "KHAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!" was pretty weak. Also, while they were recycling so much, they missed a golden opportunity to recycle Kirk's final line from Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country as the final line to this movie (in ST6, upon learning the Enterprise was to be decommissioned and responding to Chekov's request for a course, Kirk replied "Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning". That would have worked well to end this movie, too, I though).

Still, I definitely liked it well enough. :)
 
2013-08-30 02:37:53 AM

HawgWild: /I was just gonna Netflix it anyway


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Like that was gonna happen.  Last I checked Netflix only had KHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN and The Search for Spock in its library; Amazon Prime had all the films save for the 2009 reboot.  But yeah, I came oh so close to going the iTunes route since I went that route with the 2009 film (got it for free since I got my tickets through Fandango this time around) but then I decided having it in DVD, Blu-ray and digital would cost the same as just digital.
 
2013-08-30 03:01:19 AM
This has been standard procedure for years now... the store exclusive version is exclusive because it has something that the other versions don't. ALL the studios are doing it.
 
2013-08-30 03:03:38 AM
Into Darkness was the first and only Star Trek movie so far that I did not see in the theatre. I might watch it when it's on TV some day but otherwise I have no interest in seeing it.

I just don't find the reboot Star Trek interesting.

These are not stories about THE Kirk and THE Spock. They're a Kirk and a Spock from a fan fiction version of Star Trek that has no more validity than those fan fictions posted on the internet where everyone are furries. It's just not Star Trek. Even Leonard Nemoy's Spock in it is not THE Spock, it's just a fan fiction Spock. Worst of all it's fan fiction from a guy who says he hates Star Trek.

It's a pity because the reboots mean that there will never be a return to the real Star Trek.
 
2013-08-30 03:30:11 AM
It's quite silly to think one made-up universe is more "real" than another made-up universe.
 
2013-08-30 03:34:33 AM
Besides, there's plenty of "real" Star Trek online. Some of the fan films are far better than most of the TV episodes of all incarnations, and use a lot of the same actors. But do those not count, because they are "fan fiction?" Star Trek is like 50 years old now. Everyone who is going to write for it is going to be writing a form of fan fiction.
 
2013-08-30 04:41:21 AM
I can't wait for my Blu-Ray of "Into Darkness" to arrive from Amazon. Then again, I'm one of the few Star Trek geeks who enjoyed the reboot, so...
 
2013-08-30 05:12:18 AM
Step 1: Go to Pirate Bay

Step 2: Type "Into Darkness Special Features"

Step 3: Loss of profit
 
2013-08-30 05:15:54 AM

Ghastly: Into Darkness was the first and only Star Trek movie so far that I did not see in the theatre. I might watch it when it's on TV some day but otherwise I have no interest in seeing it.

I just don't find the reboot Star Trek interesting.

These are not stories about THE Kirk and THE Spock. They're a Kirk and a Spock from a fan fiction version of Star Trek that has no more validity than those fan fictions posted on the internet where everyone are furries. It's just not Star Trek. Even Leonard Nemoy's Spock in it is not THE Spock, it's just a fan fiction Spock. Worst of all it's fan fiction from a guy who says he hates Star Trek.

It's a pity because the reboots mean that there will never be a return to the real Star Trek.


Good point, but consider the other side of the coin.
 
2013-08-30 05:16:06 AM
Bought the digital version from iTunes the morning it was released, watched it twice that day.  (9 days ago?)

Dunno if I'll ever get around to bothering with extras.
 
2013-08-30 05:20:52 AM
I remember my father with the Shrek extras.. 'no, stop watching the dance number with the female ogre, when you haven't seen any of the movie yet!'
 
2013-08-30 05:22:59 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.

I have no problem with a cheaper 'basic' release that just has the movie and a 'special edition' that has the special features, but making three different versions that all have different features?  Yeah, that's bullshiat.


Or in the more likely scenario, release the film with just a few trailers on the disc, then six to twelve months later announce a special edition with the extras so that the fans buy it a second time.

Personally it's a non-issue as I like cheap independent films and B-movies. Many of my DVDs proudly claim extras such as "title menu" and "chapter selection."* And I still haven't bothered with Blu-ray as a film that looks and sounds like a direct transfer from VHS without any attempt at cleanup or colour correction isn't going to look any less shiate in HD.


*The one major exception is Troma. They cram so many extras onto the disc the film itself almost seems like an afterthought.
 
2013-08-30 05:36:02 AM

alkhemy: This has been standard procedure for years now... the store exclusive version is exclusive because it has something that the other versions don't. ALL the studios are doing it.


No. Generally up til now, a store exclusive meant you got a figurine, a lithograph, or some sort of bonus packaging, like a steelbook. The disk content was always pretty much the same

Not going to get into a fight about the merits of the film, but yeah, this is bullshiat.
 
2013-08-30 05:47:47 AM
It's time to retire the Star Trek franchise and make something new and exciting. But it'll never happen. Sad but true.
 
2013-08-30 05:49:41 AM

Freschel: It's time to retire the Star Trek franchise and make something new and exciting. But it'll never happen. Sad but true.


Just because Star Trek exists doesn't mean other things can't.
 
2013-08-30 05:57:12 AM
Meh. I liked it better under it's original name: Wrath of Kahn.
 
2013-08-30 06:01:37 AM

Confabulat: Freschel: It's time to retire the Star Trek franchise and make something new and exciting. But it'll never happen. Sad but true.

Just because Star Trek exists doesn't mean other things can't.


It does mean that they'll spend their time and money making something else and not pissing all over the rotting corpse of Star Trek.
 
2013-08-30 06:02:25 AM

Ed Grubermann: Meh. I liked it better under it's original name: Wrath of Kahn.


This Khan had never met Kirk before.  And wasn't quite so fanatical.
 
2013-08-30 06:04:34 AM

Aar1012: People actually watch the special features?


People actually buy movies?
 
2013-08-30 06:09:17 AM
I don't understand, Star Trek Into Darkness got great reviews.  72% on Metacritic.
 
2013-08-30 06:13:36 AM

bifford: I don't understand, Star Trek Into Darkness got great reviews.  72% on Metacritic.


It's a good movie. Just because it upsets Trekkies who don't like all their toys to be messed with, doesn't make it a bad movie.
 
2013-08-30 06:26:49 AM
Subby, if you thought the movie was a ripoff, why are you worried about the Blu-Ray?
 
2013-08-30 06:28:28 AM
This just in, stores offer several versions of the same movie in order to capitalize on profit. Ric Romero reporting.
 
2013-08-30 06:29:38 AM
Paramount has also decided to re-release Into Darkness in theaters this week paired up with World War Z as a double feature. I hope to god this doesn't become another dumbass money grab studios jump on board with like 10pm Thu night openings. Just stop it studios. Movies opening on Friday is fine and has been fine for decades. Opening up 10pm on Thursdays to pad your opening weekend numbers is just retarded.
 
2013-08-30 06:32:34 AM
"The official Blu-ray has seven mini-featurettes. Seems kind of bare bones for such a major summer release, eh? "

Not farking really, you dumb whiners
 
2013-08-30 06:35:17 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.

I have no problem with a cheaper 'basic' release that just has the movie and a 'special edition' that has the special features, but making three different versions that all have different features?  Yeah, that's bullshiat.


I agree. It was really well done. My only huh in the whole thing is the "My name is Khan"...from a white guy. Maybe "Khan" was adopted or something, but somehow he doesn't look like the typical Peshwar Pakistani you'd find that name attached to.
 
2013-08-30 06:36:23 AM
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2013-08-30 06:40:04 AM

Night Night Cream Puff: Paramount has also decided to re-release Into Darkness in theaters this week paired up with World War Z as a double feature. I hope to god this doesn't become another dumbass money grab studios jump on board with like 10pm Thu night openings. Just stop it studios. Movies opening on Friday is fine and has been fine for decades. Opening up 10pm on Thursdays to pad your opening weekend numbers is just retarded.


They've been doing Thursday 10 showings for nearly 20 years. I remember seeing Jurassic Park 2 at a Thursday 10 showing. The rule they had back then was, as long as the movie ended after midnight, it counted as Friday gross.

And how is it padding the numbers? Lots of movies open on Wednesday, and have for decades. Why is it padding the numbers to give people an extra chance to see something?

I miss the days when studios would do sneak preview showings of movies. On Saturday night's they'd do a 7 o'clock show of a movie that was coming out the next week, and then you could stick around to see the late show of another flick for free.
 
2013-08-30 06:42:00 AM

stoli n coke: And how is it padding the numbers? Lots of movies open on Wednesday, and have for decades. Why is it padding the numbers to give people an extra chance to see something?


Do you really not understand?
 
2013-08-30 06:52:23 AM
The Grand Nagus approves.
 
2013-08-30 06:54:10 AM
It's not going to rip me off because I'm not buying that nonsensical mess.

/fark you sideways, Orci, Kurtzman, Lindoff
 
2013-08-30 06:55:13 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: stoli n coke: And how is it padding the numbers? Lots of movies open on Wednesday, and have for decades. Why is it padding the numbers to give people an extra chance to see something?

Do you really not understand?



It's padding the numbers to give people something they want? Is it giving an unfair disadvantage to films (not movies, films) that have less potential for an audience?

Theaters are scrambling to stay afloat. They're not worried about being fair.
 
2013-08-30 07:06:46 AM

Mugato: It's not going to rip me off because I'm not buying that nonsensical mess.

/fark you sideways, Orci, Kurtzman, Lindoff


Compare and contrast the plot of "Generations" to "Into Darkness."

Get back to me on nonsensical messes.
 
2013-08-30 07:16:23 AM
Confabulat, you're supposed to talk to a doctor when you get a case of priapism that bad.
 
2013-08-30 07:18:50 AM

Confabulat: Compare and contrast the plot of "Generations" to "Into Darkness."

Get back to me on nonsensical messes.


I didn't say the TNG movies weren't crap (except FC). Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
2013-08-30 07:20:17 AM

JudgeItoBox: Confabulat, you're supposed to talk to a doctor when you get a case of priapism that bad.


What are you talking about? I'm not even a huge fan of Into Darkness but listening to people cry about it like it's some horrible abomination in the name of Star Trek is just silly. I mean, it's in the top half of Star Trek movies easy. Lots of great time with Simon Pegg's Scotty, lots of get set sequences, a lot of fun all around. Yeah, with Khan was stupid and the plot was overly complicated three times over, but still, top half of Star Trek, easy.
 
2013-08-30 07:22:52 AM

JudgeItoBox: Confabulat, you're supposed to talk to a doctor when you get a case of priapism that bad.


And really, explain to me again what your point was? That I'm saying a movie was better than little crying fanboys claim it was? Oh I'm the one with a sexual defect, huh.
 
2013-08-30 07:27:11 AM
FTFA: Despite its mixed reviews,

And that is when you know the author is a whining fanboy. The movie had 87% positive reviews and was the highest rated action movies of the summer.
 
2013-08-30 07:27:45 AM

Confabulat: JudgeItoBox: Confabulat, you're supposed to talk to a doctor when you get a case of priapism that bad.

And really, explain to me again what your point was? That I'm saying a movie was better than little crying fanboys claim it was? Oh I'm the one with a sexual defect, huh.


But fanboys are always right about the movie business. That's why Kick Ass 2 was such a box office juggernaut.
 
2013-08-30 07:28:30 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.

I have no problem with a cheaper 'basic' release that just has the movie and a 'special edition' that has the special features, but making three different versions that all have different features?  Yeah, that's bullshiat.


No, it wasn't a good movie. It wasn't a terrible movie like Man of Steel exactly, but the homages were lazy, the writing was useless. I know, its an action movie and what am I to expect an actual story with actual plot development?
 
2013-08-30 07:30:54 AM

bbfreak: TuteTibiImperes: The movie wasn't a ripoff, it was great.

I have no problem with a cheaper 'basic' release that just has the movie and a 'special edition' that has the special features, but making three different versions that all have different features?  Yeah, that's bullshiat.

No, it wasn't a good movie. It wasn't a terrible movie like Man of Steel exactly, but the homages were lazy, the writing was useless. I know, its an action movie and what am I to expect an actual story with actual plot development?



Have you ever seen Star Trek? Are you really surprised that a movie based on the campiest sci-fi show of all time wasn't exactly King Lear in the plot department?
 
2013-08-30 07:34:05 AM

Confabulat: And really, explain to me again what your point was? That I'm saying a movie was better than little crying fanboys claim it was?


Jesus, all I said was that the script was a mess. No one's allowed to have anything but a glowing opinion of everything or they're a crying fanboy? Do you cup JJ's balls while you're down there?
 
2013-08-30 07:34:15 AM
The new Star Trek is like if they took Scooby Doo and gave them a spaceship. The lack of gravitas of every single character in the movies makes it unwatchable.
 
2013-08-30 07:36:33 AM

bbfreak: No, it wasn't a good movie. It wasn't a terrible movie like Man of Steel exactly,


Widening your troll to another movie?
 
2013-08-30 07:37:11 AM

stoli n coke: Confabulat: JudgeItoBox: Confabulat, you're supposed to talk to a doctor when you get a case of priapism that bad.

And really, explain to me again what your point was? That I'm saying a movie was better than little crying fanboys claim it was? Oh I'm the one with a sexual defect, huh.

But fanboys are always right about the movie business. That's why Kick Ass 2 was such a box office juggernaut.


Kick-ass 2 has made back nearly 150% of its production budget. That is the nice thing about making a movie that costs under 30 million it is really easy to turn a profit.
 
2013-08-30 07:37:46 AM

bbfreak: but the homages were lazy, the writing was useless. I know, its an action movie and what am I to expect an actual story with actual plot development?


The was my big issue. I remember watching it with a friend in a theater and towards the end he just blurts out, "What is going on? Everything has gone cuckoo crazy!"

In the inevitable discussion afterwards we agreed a lot of it was written to feel like they made a trailer and shot a movie around it.

Why the fark were the transporters so god damn unreliable all the time? "We can only beam one person down for an action packed climax sequence... for some reason!"
 
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