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2013-08-29 09:44:25 PM
This is really good news for the strip clubs around here.

/CSB, sorta: I knew this guy and wife who were in town visiting relatives and decided to go sight-seeing.  They were driving down Greenville and saw "The Million Dollar Saloon".  They thought, hey this is cool: an old fashioned saloon.  This will be fun, maybe get our pictures made in some old-timey outfits and whatnot.  Needless to say, it wasn't that at all (and is now out of business), and they left quite embarrassed.  No word on how long they stayed or how much they spent...
 
2013-08-29 09:44:40 PM
Way to go, Texas!!!
/spoken as I would speak it to a 3 year old who just learned to poop in a bucket
 
2013-08-29 09:51:52 PM

North_Central_Positronics: Cerebral Knievel: no problem, I fully admit that I should have at least thrown a (sp) behind that.

Haha, sorry, I was trying to make a Rotsky.


MadAzza: Cerebral Knievel: North_Central_Positronics: Cerebral Knievel: ...movies where Valarie BertonalieBertandernie gets into...

Sorry, pet peeve.

no problem, I fully admit that I should have at least thrown a (sp) behind that.

LOL. Did you read it?


well.. I'm a horrible speeler to begin with and after a long day working the beer mines, then getting home and enjoying a long island iced tea ( or three ).. I can't say I was in the best mind set to catch sarcasm

:D

you kooky, far out kidz you.
 
2013-08-29 09:52:52 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Saved! is my favorite Christian film.

"I'm FULL of the love of Christ!" *throws bible*


I was kind'a hoping for "Delilah Does Dallas".
 
2013-08-29 09:59:26 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Christian porn industry!?!


Do you buh-LIEVE in the power of the penis?
 
2013-08-29 10:04:16 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: MadAzza: jmayson: Okay, I'm tired and cranky right now.  But I think the point here isn't so much there is a Christian film industry or that they finally found a home in the buckle of the Bible Belt.  It's the fact the report said it would be the "mecca" of the industry.

/Yes, I know Capt. Obvious
//And we have never been seen together

Yeah, but it did seem like a lot of people were missing that.

Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place. And if it's used incorrectly ("Nordstrom is a shoe mecca for fashionistas!"), that's extremely offensive to members of a certain religion. (Also, by the way, capital "M.")

Fark them. It's like Christians getting pissed when books use bible in the title, ie. PhotoShop Bible.



I guess it depends on the subject matter...

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2013-08-29 10:05:46 PM

echomike23: [Holywood.jpg]


I'm going to be a big star in the clicks!

/ I'm from a little town you never ever heard of
 
2013-08-29 10:07:31 PM
 But it's in the subgenre of faith-based and family films that Dallas and Fort Worth may be poised to make their biggest mark.

Well, duh.  If you include "and Fort Worth" in the area you're talking about, then literally  any category you could name is going to have a 90% incidence of it coming with a free 10-foot statue of a crucified Jesus spray-painted gold with rhinestones studded on it at randomly on the side.

Like, I'm pretty sure that's the standard happy-meal toy, and any car without a 2-foot cross made of glued-on rhinestones on each door is automatically ticketed as abandoned junk and towed.

They have a little too much Jesus going on even for the average Jesus nut, is what I'm getting at here.  They're considered uncomfortably new-age protestant by  the rest of North Texas, that's kind of like if the Grand High Wizard of the North Carolina legislature was uncomfortable around you because you're "a bit racist".

//Dallas in itself is pretty much fine, they make the rhinestones for the little old ladies in Fort Worth but they don't actually apply them.
 
2013-08-29 10:14:32 PM

MadAzza: Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place.


Capital-M Mecca, sure.  Lower-case-m mecca is a standard english noun referring to a place that devotees of a given subject feel merits at least one obligatory visit in their life.  FYI, the same applies to lower-case-b bible, it means a book that's considered fully authoritative in its field.

Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.
 
2013-08-29 10:16:59 PM
Dallas is really working on being America's whitest city
 
2013-08-29 10:22:21 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Christian porn industry!?!


Here ya go.... Enjoy!
 
2013-08-29 10:25:58 PM

loonatic112358: Dallas is really working on being America's whitest city


Pasty white at that. This is good news for the mega churches.
 
2013-08-29 10:31:42 PM

phrawgh: DFW didn't want to be left behind.


I've been left behind at DFW once.
 
2013-08-29 10:32:59 PM

kendelrio: Fuggin Bizzy: Christian porn industry!?!

Here ya go.... Enjoy!


That christianmingle escort service is a bunch of bullshiat.  The chick kept blabbering on about a "father" and a "ghost" and calling it a Trinity or something. 

I just wanted a three-way.
 
2013-08-29 10:33:53 PM

echomike23:


Don't go giving them any ideas!
 
2013-08-29 10:37:31 PM

jmayson:

Okay, I'm tired and cranky right now.  But I think the point here isn't so much there is a Christian film industry or that they finally found a home in the buckle of the Bible Belt.  It's the fact the report said it would be the "mecca" of the industry.

/Yes, I know Capt. Obvious
//And we have never been seen together

Yeah...  I KNEW something about that title wasn't Kosher.
 
2013-08-29 10:39:53 PM

loonatic112358: Dallas is really working on being America's whitest city


It's gonna be like some white Christian nirvana!
 
2013-08-29 10:41:30 PM

Jim_Callahan: Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.


Is that the literal literal or the figurative literal?  Both are literally in the dictionary now as well, in a literal sense.
 
2013-08-29 10:42:28 PM

Mr. Cat Poop:

MadAzza: jmayson: Okay, I'm tired and cranky right now.  But I think the point here isn't so much there is a Christian film industry or that they finally found a home in the buckle of the Bible Belt.  It's the fact the report said it would be the "mecca" of the industry.

/Yes, I know Capt. Obvious
//And we have never been seen together

Yeah, but it did seem like a lot of people were missing that.

Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place. And if it's used incorrectly ("Nordstrom is a shoe mecca for fashionistas!"), that's extremely offensive to members of a certain religion. (Also, by the way, capital "M.")

Fark them. It's like Christians getting pissed when books use bible in the title, ie. PhotoShop Bible.

No, it's not like that.  Christians generally don't go on beheading rampages or blow crap up when they get annoyed.
 
2013-08-29 10:52:29 PM
As a Dallasite by birth and 30+ years in the region (currently living in the Land of Entrapment), this both sickens me yet comes as no surprise.

/ Dallas - you're better than this. Really.
 
2013-08-29 11:01:20 PM

Jim_Callahan: MadAzza: Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place.

Capital-M Mecca, sure.  Lower-case-m mecca is a standard english noun referring to a place that devotees of a given subject feel merits at least one obligatory visit in their life.  FYI, the same applies to lower-case-b bible, it means a book that's considered fully authoritative in its field.

Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.


that's all well and true,

unfortunately though,  the ass hats, on either side, that get bent out of shape about such things don't understand, nor care about the finer points of the usage of grammar and language. Litle case mecca and Mecca are the same thing, as well as bible and Bible.  for all those concerned and the WILL throw a hissy fit if they feel slighted in any way
 
2013-08-29 11:08:13 PM

North_Central_Positronics: kendelrio: Fuggin Bizzy: Christian porn industry!?!

Here ya go.... Enjoy!

That christianmingle escort service is a bunch of bullshiat.  The chick kept blabbering on about a "father" and a "ghost" and calling it a Trinity or something. 

I just wanted a three-way.


Spilled coffee.... new monitor and keyboard.... you know the drill.....
 
2013-08-29 11:10:26 PM

Cerebral Knievel: So, these Christian movies... My familiarity with them tells me that they are a lot like those lifetime movie network  made for TeeVee movies where Valarie Bertonalie gets into an abuse relationship and has the crap beat out of her and she finally gathers the strength to leave the abusive alcoholic douche bag because JESUS! and her sassy chick friends and everyone lives happily ever after, but in the christian movies, its follows the abusive douche-bag who eventually discovers that he is an abusive douche-bag, finds Christ and accepts his love and stops being and abusive douche-bag because JESUS!!!! and everyone lives happily ever after.


That's my general observation at least... how far off am I?


Most of them, that's completely accurate. Then there is this one... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman%27s_Curse_%28film%29

This one is about an (somehow) FBI trained family (even the kids somehow, who go undercover as students [ripping off 21 Jump Street]) who are hired by law enforcement privately to solve unexplainable mysteries (or just do a regular undercover drug bust, which is what happens when we're introduced to this family). The kids go into a high school where the football jocks are getting ill from some mysterious illness somehow assumed to be supernatural in origin and it's suspected that the Goth kids are involved in this. Strangely enough instead of either child infiltrating the Goths directly, the son of the family goes in with the nerdy kids and the daughter gets in with the popular girls. Supposedly the Goth kids are invoking the spirit of a deceased student who hanged himself in a now blocked off part of the school. The Goth kids in the story are portrayed mainly as mall goths, but at least they're portrayed as attacked for who they are as Goths (one jock taking a Goth's lunch money answers what problem the jock has with the Goth with, "You're weird, and that costs extra.") but all in all it turns out the author (who plays a scientist in the movie, a really creepy old one!) just doesn't like to end the film that way. In the end the Goths are vindicated as innocent, a lonely nerd kid had turned out to be breeding poisonous spiders to attack the jocks that the Goths marked the lockers of (yeah, stupid premise) which eventually infested the whole school (fumigation time!). At the end the author shows his colors as the two lead Goth characters (the other 15 - 20 were just extras, no story about if they did the same) go into "normal" clothes, are now friends with the jocks (and even try to start using slang words) for some reason, and completely gave up their Goth personality because JESUS!

It's insanely stupid and insulting to say (to me at least) that the Goth kids were attacked for being different, but the author's answer to that isn't that "people are different and it's better to let people be who they are", it's "Become a Christian and you too can get out of your Goth clothes and become buddy buddy with the jocks who previously tortured you in school."
 
2013-08-29 11:16:37 PM

skinink: People react to this like this country doesn't have freedom of religion. If Christians have found a place they can easily make films, then good for them. It doesn't harm anyone.


There is freedom of religion, as well as freedom of speech. There is no freedom from ridicule for exercising the former.
 
2013-08-29 11:18:00 PM
Assuming we are not just talking about passion plays and other low budget religious scenes refilmed, I am pretty sure these have been done already.

Anyone been in the position to see the movie of the week on the hallmark channel, or on the lifetime movie channel?

They are all about family, relationships and positive values.   No meth cooking, killing people, no zombies are found there.  The normal stuff that makes  the internet light up.
 
2013-08-29 11:18:34 PM
Well Christians have this so why not why not a Hollywood to further there self separation.
 
2013-08-29 11:19:07 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Jim_Callahan: MadAzza: Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place.

Capital-M Mecca, sure.  Lower-case-m mecca is a standard english noun referring to a place that devotees of a given subject feel merits at least one obligatory visit in their life.  FYI, the same applies to lower-case-b bible, it means a book that's considered fully authoritative in its field.

Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.

that's all well and true,

unfortunately though,  the ass hats, on either side, that get bent out of shape about such things don't understand, nor care about the finer points of the usage of grammar and language. Litle case mecca and Mecca are the same thing, as well as bible and Bible.  for all those concerned and the WILL throw a hissy fit if they feel slighted in any way


Wouldn't mecca be derived from the proper noun, while Bible and God are derived from the generic nouns. So basically, the opposite. Do you understand or care about that finer point?
 
2013-08-29 11:27:43 PM

Cerebral Knievel: So, these Christian movies... My familiarity with them tells me that they are a lot like those lifetime movie network  made for TeeVee movies where Valarie Bertonalie gets into an abuse relationship and has the crap beat out of her and she finally gathers the strength to leave the abusive alcoholic douche bag because JESUS! and her sassy chick friends and everyone lives happily ever after, but in the christian movies, its follows the abusive douche-bag who eventually discovers that he is an abusive douche-bag, finds Christ and accepts his love and stops being and abusive douche-bag because JESUS!!!! and everyone lives happily ever after.


That's my general observation at least... how far off am I?


You certainly can't stop watching them half-way and come away with the right impression.

One night I was channel surfing and came across some professional looking movie on TV, but there was an 800 number at the bottom of the screen so I figured something was up. So, this young husband and wife apparently are part of the Oklahoma land grab, and the movie starts with them arriving at their plot of land in the prairie schooner and marveling at the beauty. They then share a very long (at least a minute) passionate kiss, but turns out the wife has to make camp while the husband rides off to get some food. It starts to rain.

While the husband is out riding around, he falls off the horse and bangs his head on the rocks. Meanwhile, the wife is getting worried. It's nearly nightfall when some older man in a black coat carries her husband back to her camp, and obviously she's all OMG and they wrap him up in a blanket and tend to his wounds. Now, you'd think Jesus was going to save him, but he dies within a few days. The older man is part of some larger community, so naturally his family, some other people, and a preacher come by for a proper burial. Well, right there at the graveside the older man explains he was recently widowed, and seeing how the young woman was out here all alone she'd be needing a husband and all... so he proposes and she accepts.

The older man starts telling her about his faith in God against the background of her losing her husband and receiving a new one, blah blah blah. That 800 number was some 24-hour prayer hotline so viewers could be rescued from their hardship by the Gospel.

So, God will send a man of faith to propose to you at your husband's funeral, then you'll have faith and God will provide lots of babies or something.

Hope that clears up the genre for you!
 
2013-08-29 11:27:58 PM
^This poor sap lives in DFW^

God help me....
 
2013-08-29 11:31:53 PM

Saberus Terras: ^This poor sap lives in DFW^

God help me....


Have you tried opening up a Family Values Jesus catering company? Movie people got to eat.
 
2013-08-29 11:36:53 PM
Are all the actors required to wear condoms?
 
2013-08-29 11:46:15 PM

MadAzza: FlippityFlap: "It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether...."

"IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT KIND OF FLYING."


I have no idea how you pulled that joke off using just text, but you did...at least for me!
 
2013-08-29 11:51:48 PM

nytmare: Cerebral Knievel: Jim_Callahan: MadAzza: Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place.

Capital-M Mecca, sure.  Lower-case-m mecca is a standard english noun referring to a place that devotees of a given subject feel merits at least one obligatory visit in their life.  FYI, the same applies to lower-case-b bible, it means a book that's considered fully authoritative in its field.

Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.

that's all well and true,

unfortunately though,  the ass hats, on either side, that get bent out of shape about such things don't understand, nor care about the finer points of the usage of grammar and language. Litle case mecca and Mecca are the same thing, as well as bible and Bible.  for all those concerned and the WILL throw a hissy fit if they feel slighted in any way

Wouldn't mecca be derived from the proper noun, while Bible and God are derived from the generic nouns. So basically, the opposite. Do you understand or care about that finer point?


oh.. but you see, I DO understand the finer point you pointed out, what I POINTED out is that if someone wants to get their panties in a bind over language they are going to well do it despite the derivatives of the proper noun. So, it DOESN'T farkING MATTER IF THE ENGLISH IS CORRECT OR NOT!!!!!

*ploinks you in the middle of the forehead*
 
2013-08-30 12:14:41 AM
This bothers you?
 
2013-08-30 12:16:39 AM

Cerebral Knievel: So, these Christian movies... My familiarity with them tells me that they are a lot like those lifetime movie network  made for TeeVee movies where Valarie Bertonalie gets into an abuse relationship and has the crap beat out of her and she finally gathers the strength to leave the abusive alcoholic douche bag because JESUS! and her sassy chick friends and everyone lives happily ever after, but in the christian movies, its follows the abusive douche-bag who eventually discovers that he is an abusive douche-bag, finds Christ and accepts his love and stops being and abusive douche-bag because JESUS!!!! and everyone lives happily ever after.


That's my general observation at least... how far off am I?


Or the woman who gets the crap beat out of her finally finds Jesus and learns to behave herself and make a decent sandwich so her husband no longer has to beat her so much.
 
2013-08-30 12:17:30 AM

Cerebral Knievel: So, these Christian movies... My familiarity with them tells me that they are a lot like those lifetime movie network  made for TeeVee movies where Valarie Bertonalie gets into an abuse relationship and has the crap beat out of her and she finally gathers the strength to leave the abusive alcoholic douche bag because JESUS! and her sassy chick friends and everyone lives happily ever after, but in the christian movies, its follows the abusive douche-bag who eventually discovers that he is an abusive douche-bag, finds Christ and accepts his love and stops being and abusive douche-bag because JESUS!!!! and everyone lives happily ever after.


That's my general observation at least... how far off am I?


That's pretty accurate, but what really makes these movies special is how spectacularly bad they are in both concept and execution.  One thing I remember from my time as a Christian school student and regular churchgoer was these movies' self-conscious attempts to be "hip" and current to appeal to the younger generation.  They never quite pulled it off.  The kids' characters' clothes were about ten years out of date and made them look like they were attending an '80s party, and cultural references rarely got more specific than "rap music" or "rock and roll."  You could tell right off the bat that these movies were put together entirely by Pat Robertson types.
 
2013-08-30 12:32:20 AM
Any time I've been approached to work on a "Faith-Based" project it's always "deferred compensation"
AKA lunch and no check, "But we'll send you a copy of the project!"
And you know, the lunch sucks, celery stick and a cherry tomato kind of thing when you're looking for something more substantial.

The head line?  Just typical stupid, just dumb luck it happens to be the capital of stupid, Fexas
 
2013-08-30 12:58:26 AM
Got no problem with this. They already deal in fiction.
 
2013-08-30 01:18:18 AM

Mrtraveler01: phrawgh: DFW didn't want to be left behind.

I've been left behind at DFW once.


Does Fort Worth ever cross your mind?
 
2013-08-30 01:23:01 AM

Jim_Callahan: MadAzza: Former journalist here, and I remember a few years ago the AP issued a memo reminding us idiots (not me in particular, of course) not to use "Mecca" as a synonym for "the subject's ideal gathering spot," because Mecca is considered a proper name for a specific place.

Capital-M Mecca, sure.  Lower-case-m mecca is a standard english noun referring to a place that devotees of a given subject feel merits at least one obligatory visit in their life.  FYI, the same applies to lower-case-b bible, it means a book that's considered fully authoritative in its field.

Both these definitions are literally in the dictionary, if not necessarily in exactly those words.  Welcome to English, half our words are reference and the other half are loan-words used for metaphor.


I understand that. Associated Press guidelines don't necessarily reflect others' reality.
 
2013-08-30 01:50:46 AM

skinink: People react to this like this country doesn't have freedom of religion. If Christians have found a place they can easily make films, then good for them. It doesn't harm anyone.




Freedom of speech religion does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shiat.
 
2013-08-30 03:27:36 AM

Otto's_Jacket: MadAzza: FlippityFlap: "It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether...."

"IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT KIND OF FLYING."

I have no idea how you pulled that joke off using just text, but you did...at least for me!


:-D
 
2013-08-30 03:51:21 AM
www.hollywoodreporter.com
What...
 
2013-08-30 08:01:51 AM
I'm not surprised by this.  Hell, you can't swing a wired mouse in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex without hitting a church.  Trinity Broadcasting has their studios in Irving and there's at least a half-dozen megachurches in the area, including the Copeland Ministries "anti-vaxxer" group responsible for the current measles outbreak in the area.

Downside of living in this area is the neighbors all notice when the car does not leave the driveway on a Sunday morning... and ask pointed questions.
 
2013-08-30 08:25:47 AM

Paris1127: [www.hollywoodreporter.com image 648x365]
What...




I wonder if that movie made a prophet.
 
2013-08-30 08:56:09 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

maybe they will pick up where Andy Sidaris left off...
 
2013-08-30 10:24:08 AM

sn82: loonatic112358: Dallas is really working on being America's whitest city

Pasty white at that. This is good news for the mega churches.


This is why you need to move to houston
 
2013-08-30 12:37:03 PM
Are Christian films like Christian clothing and music, where they unashamedly infringe on existing intellectual property and trademarks?  Expressing disdain for the material they're stealing, even though their products only have meaning when contrasted?

Sounds AWESOME.
 
2013-08-30 03:07:11 PM

Paris1127: [www.hollywoodreporter.com image 648x365]
What...


When I saw this, my first thought was Darwin Deez's video "Radar Detector", when he's lost in the "desert" and about to drink from his Gatorade bladder. My next thought was Napoleon calling his brother: "but my lips hurt really bad."
 
2013-08-30 10:33:24 PM

sn82: loonatic112358: Dallas is really working on being America's whitest city

Pasty white at that. This is good news for the mega churches.


Not Dallas, it is rather brown.  The surrounding burbs (Plano, Southlake, Frisco, etc): yes.  Because of this, Dallas is solidly in the D column, few years back there was a straight D run on all of the judicial elections.
 
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