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2013-08-29 10:15:19 AM  
That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....
 
2013-08-29 10:16:50 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Nicotine is not the thing to fear in cigarettes or e-cigs.  It's not the thing that stains smokers' fingers or makes their clothes smell or the walls of their houses yellow.  Nicotine doesn't cling to the lungs and turn them black with tumors.

The thing that does that is the tar (and who knows how many other ingredients) in regular cigarettes.

Nicotine itself is a simple, naturally occurring pesticide found in most, if not all, nightshades from tomatoes to peppers to eggplants and more.  I would put it in the same category as caffeine. Yes.  It's toxic in large doses, but it's almost impossible to consume in those doses.

Ecigs remove most (if not all) of the toxins that traditional cigarettes contain, and the amount of nicotine you're inhaling should you walk through a cloud of vapor is probably less than that of sticking your nose over a steaming pot of marinara.


Thanks.  Now they're going to try to ban marinara.
 
2013-08-29 10:17:07 AM  
Thanks to everybody who had suggestions on best brands to try.  I had no idea there were so many.  The only one I've seen with any frequency were Blu, but now I see there is SO much more - Yay!!
 
2013-08-29 10:17:31 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


At least try the Volcano liquid.
 
2013-08-29 10:19:03 AM  

new_york_monty: AngryDragon: Elegy: Cold_Sassy: Do any present e-cig users recommend a particular brand of e-cig?  I tried NJOY brand, they are O.K. but hard to hit (takes a great deal of effort for nicotine "delivery") They also have a slightly soapy taste.

Some of the other benfits of e-cigs and that your house/car/self don't smell, no ashes mess - I'm on board, just wish I could find a more satisfying brand.

Seconding that request for information. I want a nice vape with a couple of rechargeable batteries, not the cheap disposables you see at the gas station.

Most importantly though, it needs carts made in America that have a farking ingredient list, as I'd prefer to to vaporize anything unknown thats made in China...

http://www.blucigs.com/blu-starter-pack

and they use this

http://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com

I'm all for the johnson creek juice, but Blu was bought out by Altria, ie Big Tobacco. That and their advertising turns me off from them, especially when there are so many better options.

/like the Provari on its way to me in the mail


God I can't stand that damn Blu commercial. The black and white one with the guy who sounds exactly like Christian Slater and just looks like a douche in general. Something about "it's time to take our freedom back" or some other sensationalist bullshiat.

I'm 2 weeks smoke-free, completely cold turkey, but I also haven't really been drinking which is the main motivation for my smoking. A buddy of mine has a couple of really elaborate e-cigs, but he gets some pretty crazy looks when he whips out the MIB Mind eraser in public and starts puffing on it. I will say it tastes and hits way better than any of the ones I've tried in the gas stations. Still, I'm going to see how long I can go cold turkey. If I happen to be drinking and get the urge maybe I'll try one again.
 
2013-08-29 10:19:22 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


sounds good.  Pick up some good flavors, and maybe grab a box of the tobacco-flavored Blu cartridges should you find yourself needing a quick fix of tobacco taste (they screw right into the 510 threads and are great for the occasional hit).
 
2013-08-29 10:21:59 AM  

AngryDragon: Cold_Sassy: Do any present e-cig users recommend a particular brand of e-cig?  I tried NJOY brand, they are O.K. but hard to hit (takes a great deal of effort for nicotine "delivery") They also have a slightly soapy taste.

Some of the other benfits of e-cigs and that your house/car/self don't smell, no ashes mess - I'm on board, just wish I could find a more satisfying brand.

Blu.  Best I've tried hands down.


Blu is a good 510 type but is fairly pricey (15$ per 5 pack of cartridges) . If you plan on vaping long term I would look into an ego twist or something similar. For the same price of the Blu starter kit (60$) you can get yourself a very nice ego setup with a fark load of liquid/juice. Also I've had more than one bum cartridge in a Blu pack store usually takes them back, but still annoying and Blu just basically said "oh sorry kthanksbye" when I called them. I will say that the Blu tobacco flavor is nice. Im currently using a Ego EVOD (bottom coil) atomizer with two 950ohm batteries purchased from fasttech for 18$ shipped from china (takes about a week weekandahalf).
 
2013-08-29 10:25:46 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


I think you'll like it a lot. Good luck!
 
2013-08-29 10:26:05 AM  

Elegy: And the fact that quitting was easy with an e-cig gives me hope, as I'm planning on moving to an e-cig soon...


I've been smoking a pack of Marlboros a day, more or less, for 35 years. Bought a Blu a couple weeks ago, slowly weaning myself off the Marbs. Start replacing every fourth cig with a vape, then every third, then every other one. Bingo. You're now a vaper and the stench is off your clothes.

Bonus: I can "smoke" at my computer again!

*vapes*
 
2013-08-29 10:26:49 AM  

dickfreckle: eyemarten: My absolute favorite is watching an obese non-smoker harping about this stuff.

Really? You think you should tell me how to live porky?

Put down the donuts and then we'll talk.

[southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com image 480x360]


That was one of the best episodes of Southpark ever. They really ripped on the sanctimonious Mr. Reiner.
 
2013-08-29 10:26:59 AM  

Elegy: Cold_Sassy: Do any present e-cig users recommend a particular brand of e-cig?  I tried NJOY brand, they are O.K. but hard to hit (takes a great deal of effort for nicotine "delivery") They also have a slightly soapy taste.

Some of the other benfits of e-cigs and that your house/car/self don't smell, no ashes mess - I'm on board, just wish I could find a more satisfying brand.

Seconding that request for information. I want a nice vape with a couple of rechargeable batteries, not the cheap disposables you see at the gas station.

Most importantly though, it needs carts made in America that have a farking ingredient list, as I'd prefer to to vaporize anything unknown thats made in China...


You can make your own liquid and buy refillable cartridges very easily seeing as there's only four basic and easily purchased ingredients.
 
2013-08-29 10:29:29 AM  

Elegy: I now realize I smoke for simply one reason, and that is spite. I hate you non-smokers with all of my little black farking heart, you obnoxious, self-righteous, whining little farks, my biggest fear, if I quit smoking, is that I'll become one of you.

I have something to tell you non-smokers, and this is for you and you only, because I know for a fact that you don't know this. And I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times, so that we can all learn, evolve, and get the fark off this planet. Non-smokers, this is for you and you only, ready? Non-smokers die every day. Sleep tight...


lol
you sound wheezy through your yellowed teeth
 
2013-08-29 10:29:30 AM  
OK guys use your powers of common sense.  E-cigs are safer than cigarettes, in the sense that nicotine vapor is free of the thousands of carcinogens that are produced when you smoke tobacco, therefore there is a reasonable expectation that they won't give you cancer.  E-cigs are the same as cigarettes in that they deliver the same "rush" as cigarettes due to the nicotine, as in constriction of the blood vessels and increased heart rate, both of which tax your circulatory system causing the stroke and heart attack risks associated with cigarette use.  So yes, E-cigarettes are safer than cigarettes, and people should use them over actual cigarettes.  Safe, though?  Don't kid yourself.
 
2013-08-29 10:30:35 AM  

dpaul007: Elegy: And the fact that quitting was easy with an e-cig gives me hope, as I'm planning on moving to an e-cig soon...

I've been smoking a pack of Marlboros a day, more or less, for 35 years. Bought a Blu a couple weeks ago, slowly weaning myself off the Marbs. Start replacing every fourth cig with a vape, then every third, then every other one. Bingo. You're now a vaper and the stench is off your clothes.

Bonus: I can "smoke" at my computer again!

*vapes*


Wait until you discover the passthrough eGo batteries.  Plug it right into your USB and vape away.

The Blu batteries are trash and didn't really help me out.  I'd burn through one, the other wasn't charged all the way, I'd burn through that, and before I knew it, I'm grabbing for a smoke while waiting for two batteries to get into working order.
 
2013-08-29 10:33:14 AM  

litmusdragon: OK guys use your powers of common sense.  E-cigs are safer than cigarettes, in the sense that nicotine vapor is free of the thousands of carcinogens that are produced when you smoke tobacco, therefore there is a reasonable expectation that they won't give you cancer.  E-cigs are the same as cigarettes in that they deliver the same "rush" as cigarettes due to the nicotine, as in constriction of the blood vessels and increased heart rate, both of which tax your circulatory system causing the stroke and heart attack risks associated with cigarette use.  So yes, E-cigarettes are safer than cigarettes, and people should use them over actual cigarettes.  Safe, though?  Don't kid yourself.


Yeah.  I had the same sort of complaints when someone told me that Di-hydrogen-monoxide was "safe."
 
2013-08-29 10:34:52 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


This is my eGo 900mah battery with Kanger Protank II:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-29 10:35:30 AM  

Vodka Zombie: litmusdragon: OK guys use your powers of common sense.  E-cigs are safer than cigarettes, in the sense that nicotine vapor is free of the thousands of carcinogens that are produced when you smoke tobacco, therefore there is a reasonable expectation that they won't give you cancer.  E-cigs are the same as cigarettes in that they deliver the same "rush" as cigarettes due to the nicotine, as in constriction of the blood vessels and increased heart rate, both of which tax your circulatory system causing the stroke and heart attack risks associated with cigarette use.  So yes, E-cigarettes are safer than cigarettes, and people should use them over actual cigarettes.  Safe, though?  Don't kid yourself.

Yeah.  I had the same sort of complaints when someone told me that Di-hydrogen-monoxide was "safe."


Jesus, man, you think that stuff is safe?! Do you know how many people drown in it each year? It's hell on society, I tell you, and I don't know why we stand for it.
 
2013-08-29 10:36:58 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


Get a kanger mini protank 2. Juice tastes better when it's not in a plastic tank!
 
2013-08-29 10:37:10 AM  

new_york_monty: Vodka Zombie: litmusdragon: OK guys use your powers of common sense.  E-cigs are safer than cigarettes, in the sense that nicotine vapor is free of the thousands of carcinogens that are produced when you smoke tobacco, therefore there is a reasonable expectation that they won't give you cancer.  E-cigs are the same as cigarettes in that they deliver the same "rush" as cigarettes due to the nicotine, as in constriction of the blood vessels and increased heart rate, both of which tax your circulatory system causing the stroke and heart attack risks associated with cigarette use.  So yes, E-cigarettes are safer than cigarettes, and people should use them over actual cigarettes.  Safe, though?  Don't kid yourself.

Yeah.  I had the same sort of complaints when someone told me that Di-hydrogen-monoxide was "safe."

Jesus, man, you think that stuff is safe?! Do you know how many people drown in it each year? It's hell on society, I tell you, and I don't know why we stand for it.


I know.  And now they make it with bubbles and flavorings DESIGNED to attract children. We need to think of the children!
 
2013-08-29 10:39:36 AM  

litmusdragon: OK guys use your powers of common sense.  E-cigs are safer than cigarettes, in the sense that nicotine vapor is free of the thousands of carcinogens that are produced when you smoke tobacco, therefore there is a reasonable expectation that they won't give you cancer.  E-cigs are the same as cigarettes in that they deliver the same "rush" as cigarettes due to the nicotine, as in constriction of the blood vessels and increased heart rate, both of which tax your circulatory system causing the stroke and heart attack risks associated with cigarette use.  So yes, E-cigarettes are safer than cigarettes, and people should use them over actual cigarettes.  Safe, though?  Don't kid yourself.


Safer than a ride in a car.
 
2013-08-29 10:41:22 AM  

EngineerAU: [www.logosdatabase.com image 139x140]
(hot, like stepping bare footed on a smoldering cigarette butt)

For close to a century smokers have acted like entitled obnoxious jerks and now they're surprised few have sympathy for them anymore? While not all smokers were/are jerks, smoking culture in general was one of exceptionalism. Blow back was bound to happen eventually and it's a bit too late to say "can't we just get along?"


Much like WVU football fans.
 
2013-08-29 10:47:54 AM  

James!: I think Ecigs would have a better time if they dropped the association with cigarettes all together.  Make them look more like asthma inhalers than cigarettes and see if anyone gives a shiat.


I like this idea.

Smoker who dabbles in e-cigs.
 
2013-08-29 10:48:58 AM  

LandOfChocolate: E-cigarettes use replaceable cartridges in which nicotine or flavors are heated, vaporized, and inhaled
...
In fact, the inability to show proof of harm was one of the reasons the Food and Drug Administration's 2010 bid to control e-cigarettes as a "drug-delivery device"

I guess proof of harm is necessary to legally classify them that way but the sole purpose of the device is to deliver the drug, nicotine.  I'm not sure what the big deal is here.


If the FDA classifies e-cigs as a "drug delivery device" then vapers would need a prescription to purchase them... theraputic effects and whatnot.  You effectively remove all vaping devices from the shelves and put them in the hands of doctors, require a prescription to get them, and saddle the insurance companies with the responsibility of covering the costs (yeah right!).  Why do that when regular cigs are KNOWN to be harmful (likely orders of magnitude more harmful) is beyond me.  Oh yeah, money.  Tax money, lobbying money, big tobacco money...

/Starting vaping before Xmas last year when the doc found a couple of spots on my lungs, haven't touched a cigarette since
//They were determined to be benign, thank you flying spaghetti monster
 
2013-08-29 10:52:46 AM  

vegaswench: James!: I think Ecigs would have a better time if they dropped the association with cigarettes all together.  Make them look more like asthma inhalers than cigarettes and see if anyone gives a shiat.

I like this idea.

Smoker who dabbles in e-cigs.


You're thinking of Nicotrol by Pfizer.  Same ingredients, same results, just controlled by big pharma and approved for prescription use.
 
2013-08-29 10:54:22 AM  
So,

How long before the tax man clamps down on the ingredients and devices?

You don't think the govt is just going to let all those revenues go up in vapor do you?

No, I'm not sure what the justification will be.  Probably something along the lines of, "Fark you - that's why."
 
2013-08-29 10:54:32 AM  

vegaswench: James!: I think Ecigs would have a better time if they dropped the association with cigarettes all together.  Make them look more like asthma inhalers than cigarettes and see if anyone gives a shiat.

I like this idea.

Smoker who dabbles in e-cigs.


My wife and I already do this.  We started after an ashmatic on a bus in Boston asked us if they were inhalers.  He then showed us his (actual) inhaler, which was rather bulky, and then mused about creating one that would model the ecig design.

Our takeaway was that if an ashmatic person, in close quarters, had no problem with them then why the hell should anyone else?

The guy was some MIT faculty member, BTW.  Not exactly a moron....
 
2013-08-29 10:56:17 AM  

Cold_Sassy: Do any present e-cig users recommend a particular brand of e-cig?  I tried NJOY brand, they are O.K. but hard to hit (takes a great deal of effort for nicotine "delivery") They also have a slightly soapy taste.

Some of the other benfits of e-cigs and that your house/car/self don't smell, no ashes mess - I'm on board, just wish I could find a more satisfying brand.


Kanger T2 Cartomizer , eGo-T  battery, green Apple flavor VG/PG juice. Great for beginners ... cheap, easy to find and one tank and charge lasts all day.
 
2013-08-29 10:56:47 AM  
I use a V2 the batteries with cartrige attached fit perfectly in the pen pockets on my uniform, and the refillable tanks are adequate.  If I sat around more the big tanks and huge batteries would probably be great.
 
2013-08-29 11:01:29 AM  

Slaxl: Elegy: I now realize I smoke for simply one reason, and that is spite. I hate you non-smokers with all of my little black farking heart, you obnoxious, self-righteous, whining little farks, my biggest fear, if I quit smoking, is that I'll become one of you.

I have something to tell you non-smokers, and this is for you and you only, because I know for a fact that you don't know this. And I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times, so that we can all learn, evolve, and get the fark off this planet. Non-smokers, this is for you and you only, ready? Non-smokers die every day. Sleep tight...

Bill Hicks was a funny man, I was a smoker when I first saw him. I'm glad I didn't turn into a self righteous anti-smoker when I quit.

e-cigarettes made quitting easy and almost incidental.


Yes

Without e-cigs I would still be smoking a pack a day - I now smoke one a month.
 
2013-08-29 11:03:01 AM  

ralanprod: So,

How long before the tax man clamps down on the ingredients and devices?

You don't think the govt is just going to let all those revenues go up in vapor do you?

No, I'm not sure what the justification will be.  Probably something along the lines of, "Fark you - that's why."


Yeah, it's coming, I'm sure.
 
2013-08-29 11:11:11 AM  

doyner: Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....

At least try the Volcano liquid.


I will, and thanks for the suggestion on the vape. I'm thinking the eGo because its cheaper and seems to be compatable with more accessories.
 
2013-08-29 11:15:08 AM  
My boyfriend uses the V2 kind, and it's awesome because not only did he stop smoking (wasn't too heavy, a few a day) but he also stopped chewing which is a big deal, since that has a much larger "kick" to it than cigarettes, I hear. For me, it's nice that there's no smell & no more spitters in the house. He does complain a little about the batteries and he didn't feel the refill liquid was as good as the regular cartridges. If you buy cigs in Chicago, and you switch to V2 you save around $7-10 a pack.

/ also Metra has quiet cars on their trains, so you can drink and "smoke" in peace
 
2013-08-29 11:17:28 AM  
I would like to mention that E-cigs do have a smell, though that smell is relatively minor compared to a regular cigarette.  Also, it doesn't linger for more than a couple of seconds, so it isn't like when I would have to come home after going to a bar smelling like an ash tray even though I don't smoke.  (Not that it is legal to smoke in bars around here anymore.)
 
2013-08-29 11:20:04 AM  

imfallen_angel: Elegy: And the fact that quitting was easy with an e-cig gives me hope, as I'm planning on moving to an e-cig soon...

My wife smoked for most of her life, tried to quit every possible way (seriously... everything)... the e-cig worked overnight.


Same here. Makes you seriously wonder about the motivations of everyone who wants to mess with that.
 
2013-08-29 11:24:30 AM  

Elegy: That's for all of the great suggestions in this thread!

After doing some research, I think I'm going to go with new_york_monty's suggestion of an eGo battery with a Kanger clearomizer.

You guys rock....


I'd highly recommend that whatever clearomizer you get, you make it a pyrex one, rather than one of the polycarbonate ones.  Like the Kanger ProTank rather than the T3s.  Most every fruit flavor and several of the beverage flavors will straight up melt polycarbonate plastic tanks.   So not only will it dissolve and spill nicotine liquid everywhere, you're also inhaling that crap while it still manages to hold together.

I use a Smoktech ARO Pyrex with 1.8 Ohm dual coils, and a stainless steel eGo battery from my eGo-C starter kit from over a year and a half ago.
 
2013-08-29 11:25:21 AM  

tetsoushima: I would like to mention that E-cigs do have a smell, though that smell is relatively minor compared to a regular cigarette.  Also, it doesn't linger for more than a couple of seconds, so it isn't like when I would have to come home after going to a bar smelling like an ash tray even though I don't smoke.  (Not that it is legal to smoke in bars around here anymore.)


Yes, and it's completely dependent on the flavor of the liquid. Every one of my nonsmoker friends (with the exception of an ex) enjoys the smell of the liquid I usually use (hazelnut tobacco--smells yummy!). The nonsmoking girl I'm dating now will stick her face in front of me for a whiff when I exhale, and she can't stand cigarette smoke.

The one person who disapproved was a an old smoker buddy who chainsmoked Marlboro reds in his car as he biatched about the sweet, cookie-like smell of my e-cig. My other smoker buddy in the car didn't mind the smell at all, but found the whole thing pretty damned funny.
 
2013-08-29 11:27:14 AM  
Friends of mine in the Kansas City area have started making juices and sell them at http://rocketfuelvapes.com/ I particularly like the Ol River Tobacco blend
 
2013-08-29 11:34:27 AM  
I'm just going to back up what a few have already said. If you want to start, get yourself an eGo battery (I like the eGo C Twist which gives you variable voltage) and one of the Kanger Protank 2 series clearomizers.

Here is a good resource with more info than you can imagine. You can find anything you need to know.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

My favorite juice vendor: White Rabbit is so good.

http://vapeland.org/
 
2013-08-29 11:40:34 AM  

ChuDogg: I'm just gonna step in here and suggest not listening to anyone that recommends njoy, Blu Cig, or any other e-cig that is designed to look like an actual cigarette. Because quite clearly they don't know what they are talking about.


I second this motion. Get something with a refillable tank and a large enough battery to last a full day or don't even bother.
 
2013-08-29 11:40:58 AM  
Rockin a ZMAX with dual coil cartomizer pyrex tank and delicious homemade strawberry lemonade juice.  Anti-Ecig people can fark right off.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-29 11:46:07 AM  

EngineerAU: smoking culture in general was one of exceptionalism


You mean like when you could smoke literally anywhere?  At work, at church, on an airplane, at the movies, on a bus, etc?  Like when soldiers were given packs of Lucky Strikes in their supplies?  Like when 30-40% of the US population smoked?  Is that what you meant?

/former 1+ pack a day smoker - thanks Chantix!
 
2013-08-29 12:14:04 PM  
Waiting for the one that looks like Vader's Lightsaber.
 
2013-08-29 12:18:10 PM  
eyemarten: Really? You think you should tell me how to live porky?  Put down the donuts and then we'll talk.

Unlikely, considering you've already admitted to wishing you could physically harm people who make you feel ostracized because of your choices.

Smoking is a badge of honor for "fierce individualists" everywhere. If you're going to continue to smoke, maybe you should act like a farking man, and not be so sensitive about what non-smokers whisper to each other while they quietly judge you.
 
2013-08-29 12:18:53 PM  
Right now, I've got an ego twist with some Halo Cafe-Mocha (with a little vanilla I tossed in) in the little plastic Joye tank.  In another tank on another twist, I've got some Hawaiian Punch.  And, on an eGo-C battery, I've got a Blu Cherry Crush cartridge (I grabbed them when I was at the store and my tank ran out.  They work great in a pinch).

My Protanks are sitting on the edge of my sink getting dry.
 

GanjSmokr: thanks Chantix!


Man...  I'm afraid to try those meds.  Ages ago (like, 15 years-ish), a friend's wife was on Zyban, and it freaked her right the hell out.  She was terrified (almost to the point of screaming and crippling panic) whenever she saw anything even remotely related to smoking (lighters, ash trays, people on TV, and friends who still smoked).

Eventually, she managed to quit, but those early drugs were terrifying.  Glad the Chantrix worked for you.  I'm thinking those things will be a last resort for me.  But, I'm doing well on the e-cigs.  Went from smoking two packs a day to smoking less than two packs a week or so.  The first time I started vaping, it dawned on me that I'd not had a cigarette in two days, and I didn't even realize it.
 
2013-08-29 12:19:20 PM  
I see plenty of these large vaporizers, but do they make anything shorter? It isn't the girth I have an issue with, but the overall length (That's a sentence I never thought I would type). I'm kicking the habit slowly, having just picked up a Blu (I know, I know, don't roast me yet) starter kit at a gas station one day.
My problem is I'm a barge welder, and spend most of my nights high off the floor wearing a harness welding overhead. Something that takes up that much space in my pockets would be a hindrance I presume.
 
2013-08-29 12:20:42 PM  

stuffy: Waiting for the one that looks like Vader's Lightsaber.


I've got a friend making a sonic screwdriver.  I think the lightsaber would be cool, but probably a little big and unwieldy and about as clumsy as a blaster..  No one wants e-cigs from a more elegant age, after all.
 
2013-08-29 12:22:44 PM  

croesius: I see plenty of these large vaporizers, but do they make anything shorter? It isn't the girth I have an issue with, but the overall length (That's a sentence I never thought I would type). I'm kicking the habit slowly, having just picked up a Blu (I know, I know, don't roast me yet) starter kit at a gas station one day.
My problem is I'm a barge welder, and spend most of my nights high off the floor wearing a harness welding overhead. Something that takes up that much space in my pockets would be a hindrance I presume.


I just ordered a Provari, which is one of the biggies. I know they make a 'mini' version too, which is stubby but shorter. If you're worried about pocket space, you could always pick up a lanyard and tuck it beneath your shirt/coveralls.
 
2013-08-29 12:26:49 PM  

croesius: I see plenty of these large vaporizers, but do they make anything shorter? It isn't the girth I have an issue with, but the overall length (That's a sentence I never thought I would type). I'm kicking the habit slowly, having just picked up a Blu (I know, I know, don't roast me yet) starter kit at a gas station one day.
My problem is I'm a barge welder, and spend most of my nights high off the floor wearing a harness welding overhead. Something that takes up that much space in my pockets would be a hindrance I presume.


The Joye 510 is about the same size as a Blu and the battery last longer and has more oomph.  The standard Joye eGo-C battery is a little bit thicker, but still very short (smaller than a lighter) and lasts a lot longer and both can take the Blu cartridges.

That's what turned me off of the Blu batteries.  They just don't last all that long between charges.
 
2013-08-29 12:30:04 PM  

addy2: imfallen_angel: Elegy: And the fact that quitting was easy with an e-cig gives me hope, as I'm planning on moving to an e-cig soon...

My wife smoked for most of her life, tried to quit every possible way (seriously... everything)... the e-cig worked overnight.

Same here. Makes you seriously wonder about the motivations of everyone who wants to mess with that.


It doesn't make me wonder. I know a morally bankrupt subhuman sack of fark who would do anything to line their own pockets when I see one.
 
2013-08-29 12:35:13 PM  

s2s2s2: I guess it will surprise no one that the big tobacco corporations are the ones lobbying for these bans, to help pave the say for them to introduce their vaping devices.


No they're not. They're buying the "cig-alike" companies up (see: Lorillard buying Blu). It's big pharma lobbying against ecigs because it's a more effective smoking cessation product that's a hell of a lot cheaper than their products.
 
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