drewbob21: Yeah, because mega-deals always work out. Just look at Pujols, Hamilton, and ARod.
Jeteupthemiddle: Harper isn't even arbitration eligible. Seems silly to give an extension this year. Start the discussion next year.
satanorsanta: Why would the Nats want this? They are guaranteed to have Harper until 2018 for a lot less money. It would end up hurting them in the short run for a possibility that it helps them in the long run. Therefore I hope they do it./Phillies fan//bitter
bulldg4life: Did I miss the math or something? It says 12-year extension that kicks in at 2016 and he'll be 32 when it is finished. Is Harper really 15 right now?
dragonchild: Not gonna click the Moonie Times so to answer subby's question directly, it depends on how the contract is structured. But knowing Boras it's probably for $750 million for a guy who hit .257 in AAA with guaranteed back-loaded pay of $50 million per year for each year the guy's over 30. And some MLB team will be dumb enough to accept it. And then all the owners will wail about how contracts are out of control.
Night Night Cream Puff: WaPo is not the Moonie Times, FYI.
thecpt: I'd love to have Boras' job; just be an absurd asshole and you'll do great.
dragonchild: Night Night Cream Puff: WaPo is not the Moonie Times, FYI.I know. I could've sworn it was Moonie Times earlier, but the caffeine hadn't kicked in at that point, so. . . eh.
WTF Indeed: The best argument against Trout is WAR and last place. Are you telling me that the Angels would only have 51 wins if Trout was not on the team? Because if you build your team with WAR, that's what you're saying.
degenerate-afro: People underestimate how much ass you have to kiss to do an agent's job.
bulldg4life: It was the Washington times 30 minutes ago. The link stopped working and an admin changed it.
MugzyBrown: With the way baseball free agency works, this is probably the future of contracts.Teams will be shying away from signing the 30 year old free agent to big bucks, so players will need to get their big bucks earlier... though Harper may not be worth such a commitmentThough if I'm Mike Trout, I'm not stepping on the field next year without a multi-year deal.
dragonchild: steering them into bad situations for bigger pay
dragonchild: degenerate-afro: People underestimate how much ass you have to kiss to do an agent's job.It's acting. I can act. It's the sociopathy requirement that makes me unsuited for the job. He even screws over his own clients for more money, steering them into bad situations for bigger pay, which to me makes saying he's "good" at the job rather subjective.
MugzyBrown: It's his job to get the best deal for his client. If his client wants a 'better situation' for less pay, then it's their job to communicate that to the agent.
degenerate-afro: Do you think that the other agents out there aren't sociopathic liars? There's a reason why he's the best at what he does and it's not a fluke.
dragonchild: degenerate-afro: Do you think that the other agents out there aren't sociopathic liars? There's a reason why he's the best at what he does and it's not a fluke.I'm not quite sure what you're arguing, but it definitely has nothing to do with what I said.
dragonchild: The agent doesn't work for the client; the agent works for the commission. To get the best commission many will manipulate the client (Boras is anything but unique here), because the "best deal" for the client isn't the "best deal" for the agent. Not that I feel sorry for these players because you only hire Scott Boras if your intentions are greedy to begin with, but my point is less about these players being victims (dude's going to make a ton of money no matter where he goes) and more about how Boras is a jackass. To that extent this is a really odd responsibility you're imposing here. You wouldn't expect Scott Boras to be able to strike out Bryce Harper, but you expect Bryce Harper -- who isn't even old enough to drink -- to effectively control a sociopathic battle-scarred negotiator like Scott Boras? I think a more expected result of that conversation is that the kid would get Boras' hand shoved so far up his ass he turns into his sock puppet, because that's exactly what Boras would do to get the best deal for himself.
MugzyBrown: Though if I'm Mike Trout, I'm not stepping on the field next year without a multi-year deal.
satanorsanta: MugzyBrown: Though if I'm Mike Trout, I'm not stepping on the field next year without a multi-year deal.I have always wondered what would happen if a player decides to start playing poorly on purpose. If they were pre-arbitration it would kill their next contract since it is based on their performance. But after a contract I don't know what the teams could do to penalize them.
Hoopy Frood: Nope. Not a chance.Remember how bright Starlin Castro's future looked after a year-plus? The Cubs gave him eight years and $60 million.
degenerate-afro: You stated that you could lie, but you weren't a sociopath. I'm stating that even if you were, you still couldn't do it.
MugzyBrown: Broas works for the player. The player can change agents if he doesn't like who he's working with. If the player is concerned more about this situation, he can tell Boras: I'll only sign with X, Y or Z, and I won't sign for less than 3 years, so make the best deal under those parameters. Not that tricky,
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