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(Deadspin)   Protip: If you're going to win an Ironman Triathlon, save your gloating until AFTER you cross the finish line   (deadspin.com) divider line 33
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2013-08-28 04:44:33 PM
Half-ironman.
 
2013-08-28 04:47:07 PM
Ironman, airhead.
 
2013-08-28 05:19:22 PM
Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.
 
2013-08-28 05:45:07 PM
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2013-08-28 05:46:29 PM
if they weren't using a doorway as a finish line the 2nd guy could've stepped around the guys block attempt
 
2013-08-28 05:48:53 PM

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.


He's lucky the other guy was a good sport about it, that has to be against the rules.
 
2013-08-28 05:48:56 PM

bdub77: Half-ironman.


Bears repeating.
 
2013-08-28 05:49:05 PM

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.


Yeah, I don't get how there isn't a rule in place for crap like that.
 
2013-08-28 06:19:01 PM
Whatever. FirstPlacey McDouchabag lucky he didn't get hip tossed.
 
2013-08-28 06:26:59 PM
I'll keep that in mind in case I'm ever about to win an Ironman (which will be never).
 
2013-08-28 06:57:56 PM

bdub77: Half-ironman.


Yep. Not to take anything away from the guy who won (or the guy who finished second), but there is a world of difference between "Ironman 70.3" and the classic definition of "Ironman." A good 4.5 hours and 70 more miles, among other things.

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.


Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.
 
2013-08-28 07:05:38 PM

Uzzah: bdub77: Half-ironman.

Yep. Not to take anything away from the guy who won (or the guy who finished second), but there is a world of difference between "Ironman 70.3" and the classic definition of "Ironman." A good 4.5 hours and 70 more miles, among other things.

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.

Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.


no, you stop running when you cross the finish line. the second place finisher should have passed him.
 
2013-08-28 07:08:47 PM

Uzzah: bdub77: Half-ironman.

Yep. Not to take anything away from the guy who won (or the guy who finished second), but there is a world of difference between "Ironman 70.3" and the classic definition of "Ironman." A good 4.5 hours and 70 more miles, among other things.

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.

Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.


I'm not sure I agree with that.  Yes, the guy was in first place.  But let's say he was in first but didn't pace himself properly and ended up losing, when, if he'd remembered his plan, he would have won.  Is it douchey to pass him then?  How about if he tripped because he was looking at the crowd and not the course?  Still a dick move to pass him?

I'm more of the, "If a guy loses because he was an idiot, well, it's on him" school of thought.
 
2013-08-28 07:58:27 PM
I think that should call for a close-line as you're crossing the finish line.
 
2013-08-28 08:11:12 PM
I see there are those here quick to point out it was a "half" Ironman.  I did a 70.3 and there are those that call it a half ironman just to needle me.....Tell me they can't finish a full Ironman either, but they don't wear tee-shirts bragging about it (my 70.3 tee).

I know the formal title used to be half-Ironmans.  Don't know why and when they made the change to just Ironman 70.3 and 140.6.  I like it though.  a 70.3 is still farther than any tri race except a 140.6.
 
2013-08-28 08:22:19 PM

Pumpernickel bread: I see there are those here quick to point out it was a "half" Ironman.  I did a 70.3 and there are those that call it a half ironman just to needle me.....Tell me they can't finish a full Ironman either, but they don't wear tee-shirts bragging about it (my 70.3 tee).

I know the formal title used to be half-Ironmans.  Don't know why and when they made the change to just Ironman 70.3 and 140.6.  I like it though.  a 70.3 is still farther than any tri race except a 140.6.


To be fair, 70.3 is a half ironman but still good job, they are damn grueling races and much harder than a marathon.
 
2013-08-28 08:43:36 PM

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.


he stopped the other guy from crossing and the other guy would have crossed ahead of him.  If I were 2nd place, I would protest the finish.  Sucks for him he is a dumbass.
 
2013-08-28 09:03:44 PM

bdub77: Half-ironman.


Tony! Put your damn pants on!
 
2013-08-28 09:56:01 PM
I have a friend who qualifies and races in these Ironman triathlons every year. Everyone of the racers he's introduced me to have been really kind and laid back guys. Sportsmanship is pretty important to them, it seems.
 
2013-08-28 11:29:07 PM
It would've been really hard for me to not bulldoze the guy in first place. Hell, I'm close to bulldozing people on the last stretch of most races and I'm never anywhere near first place. Huge douche move to arm bar the guy behind you because you were gloating.
 
2013-08-28 11:51:28 PM
My coach always taught me that the finish line was three feet Beyond the marked line. I've seen many races (including a state cross country championship) lost because some slowed down early.
Run through and don't gloat.
 
2013-08-29 12:57:18 AM

Uzzah: Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.


That is some of the dumbest stuff I have heard today.
 
2013-08-29 01:21:28 AM

ongbok: Uzzah: Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.

That is some of the dumbest stuff I have heard today.


That's so weird, I was just going to say that about your post.

The guy won. I found his gloating and touching his opponent distasteful, but as posted above: it was classy of the second guy..
 
2013-08-29 08:46:39 AM
 
2013-08-29 10:31:05 AM

downstairs: Should have been penalized for pushing the other guy out of the way.


Yeah, I'd have knocked his dick in the dirt for that. I wasn't sure what I'd see by clicking on the link, maybe some normal 'hands up to cross the finish line' stuff that everyone does, but then I watch the video and the asshole is dancing around on the WRONG side of the tape, then tries to make it look like the other dude was in the wrong for trying to win? I'd have run the sack of shiat over. Fark this dude.
 
2013-08-29 10:34:07 AM

Uzzah: Meh, the showboater beat him in the race fair and square. He wasn't demonstrating very good positional awareness of his competition, but he was unambiguously the first guy to the finish. Trying to sneak across and win just because the real winner was being a dumbass by whooping it up with the crowd before crossing the line would be a pretty douchey move itself. Being cool about the whole thing just shows that second place guy is a good sportsman and acknowledges that he got beat.


Um, no he wasn't. The "finish" is when you break the tape. It's why it's there. He hadn't finished yet, and every set of rules out there would confirm it. When they have to do photo finishes to determine who won, they don't look on the camera to see who got "close" first, they look to see who crossed the ACTUAL FINISH LINE first, which this asshat hadn't done. The second guy was the only one of the two following the rules at that point, and this dude deserves to be penalized enough to lose the 'W'.
 
2013-08-29 10:49:16 AM
I am not a triathlete, but a runner.  There seems to be a huge difference between the two camps on this issue.

Runners take the approach that you go all out until you finish the race and that happens at the finish line.

Triathletes seem to take a much more laid back approach and feel that this type of thing is ok and acceptable.  Though this guy seemed to take it beyond what is normal even for them, and I had never seen someone else almost catch a showboater like that in a tri.

Some random high school examples:
2005 Illinois XC (showing why you run through the line):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wh7RQL5oAA8# t =511
Everyone loved this effort.

2010 Footlocker:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VHxCzlTUM6I# t =904
Lot's of people got mad that he waved and walked it in, but Lukas is more of a triathlete than a runner, so he always did that.
 
2013-08-29 10:53:32 AM

Pumpernickel bread: I see there are those here quick to point out it was a "half" Ironman.  I did a 70.3 and there are those that call it a half ironman just to needle me.....Tell me they can't finish a full Ironman either, but they don't wear tee-shirts bragging about it (my 70.3 tee).

I know the formal title used to be half-Ironmans.  Don't know why and when they made the change to just Ironman 70.3 and 140.6.  I like it though.  a 70.3 is still farther than any tri race except a 140.6.


They why is for the exact reason you stated: people were dismissing it as less of a challenge than the full.  Also "Ironman" is a trademark, not a distance, so as the sport grew people were getting confused as why non-Ironman tri's were different distances.

It is the same with the half-marathon v. marathon.  A lot of non or new runners don't really respect the half distance even though in many ways it is harder than a full.

Though really any race that takes you over 12 minutes to complete can be enough to leave you dead if you do it right.  F'n 5ks...
 
2013-08-29 11:01:49 AM

puckrock2000: Lindsey Jacobellis approves.


I don't get this one... It doesn't really seem relevant, she didn't stop boarding to do a bunch of celebrating, she did a little move on a jump, something I see people do all the time, it just seems like since she was in front, it immediately means that she was "showboating". But hey, I'd never seen this one before, and don't really know who these people are anyway, so maybe she admitted it later, or it's something she's done before, but based on this, it would be the equivalent of the runner continuing to run, but holding his arms up and waving(As he ran at his normal speed) until he crossed the tape.
 
2013-08-29 11:18:12 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I have a friend who qualifies and races in these Ironman triathlons every year. Everyone of the racers he's introduced me to have been really kind and laid back guys. Sportsmanship is pretty important to them, it seems.


Yeah, and showboating is bad sportsmanship, as is physically pushing back another racer so that you finish first. IMHO, the "winner" crossed a line, so to speak, and he should lose the win.
 
2013-08-29 01:26:20 PM

Mikey1969: puckrock2000: Lindsey Jacobellis approves.

I don't get this one... It doesn't really seem relevant, she didn't stop boarding to do a bunch of celebrating, she did a little move on a jump, something I see people do all the time, it just seems like since she was in front, it immediately means that she was "showboating". But hey, I'd never seen this one before, and don't really know who these people are anyway, so maybe she admitted it later, or it's something she's done before, but based on this, it would be the equivalent of the runner continuing to run, but holding his arms up and waving(As he ran at his normal speed) until he crossed the tape.


She doesn't/didn't care which pissed people off.
 
2013-08-29 04:12:14 PM
My Google-fu is failing me but I remember seeing the leader lose a woman's marathon (Chicago?) because she was high 5ing the crowd on the way down the stretch.
 
2013-08-29 04:13:05 PM

bacongood: It is the same with the half-marathon v. marathon. A lot of non or new runners don't really respect the half distance even though in many ways it is harder than a full.


Half the distance, twice the fun.
 
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