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(Bend Bulletin)   Clinic on why they banned pharma reps: "It just got very, very old and all of us felt that we were whores." Pharma reps unavailable for comment. Too busy whoring   (bendbulletin.com) divider line 94
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2013-08-28 01:01:37 PM  
That's a really good article. Thanks, subby.
 
2013-08-28 01:49:03 PM  
Very short article. Terse. Pithy.
 
2013-08-28 01:49:56 PM  
fark Big Pharma, with their life saving medicines and development of new drugs. We should all use herbal remedies and homeopathy for our ailments the way nature intended.
 
2013-08-28 01:52:06 PM  
article has been pulled :(
At least it was on mobile
 
2013-08-28 01:52:36 PM  
"Wow, are they robots?"
"No, we graduated from Arizona State"
 
2013-08-28 01:53:16 PM  
Not sure it is still the same way, but it used to be that if someone told you that a woman was a pharmaceutical sales rep, it was virtually guaranteed that they were hot.
 
2013-08-28 01:53:33 PM  
Stupid salespeople providing services and all
 
2013-08-28 01:53:53 PM  
Personally, I would like to punch every Essure rep in the cock or vag.
 
2013-08-28 01:54:43 PM  
How much could prescribed drug prices come down if pharma reps were done away with?
 
GBB
2013-08-28 01:55:07 PM  
As having once been a "poor patient" that received free samples from my Gastrointerologist, I take exception to this article.
 
2013-08-28 01:55:32 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Big Pharma, with their life saving medicines and development of new drugs. We should all use herbal remedies and homeopathy for our ailments the way nature intended.


Something about picking battles. Big Pharma does PLENTY they need to be legitimately criticized about. Their practices of influencing physicians in private practice and clinic to prescribe medications are one of them. They're not doing it on the basis of evidence and efficacy, but on the fact of handouts, kickbacks, and shiny pens.

/to be fair. drug rep swag is awesome.
 
2013-08-28 01:56:04 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Big Pharma, with their life saving medicines and development of new drugs. We should all use herbal remedies and homeopathy for our ailments the way nature intended.


The problem is that the pharma reps often convince doctors to prescribe medication people don't really need.  Medication is obviously a good thing, but not when doctors are encouraged to diagnose an illness somebody mostly likely doesn't have just so they can sell more drugs.
 
2013-08-28 01:56:14 PM  
Pharma girl thread?
 
2013-08-28 01:56:37 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: "Wow, are they robots?"
"No, we graduated from Arizona State"


Do you know the definition of robot?

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2013-08-28 01:57:34 PM  
And this is one reason the cost of drugs is so high.  Stupid ads, PR sessions, wining and dining physicians/staff, etc.
 
2013-08-28 01:57:40 PM  
 
2013-08-28 01:58:35 PM  

hardinparamedic: Do you know the definition of robot?


God damnit, I wanted to go see that this weekend. I may try and sneek away on a lunch hour this week
 
2013-08-28 01:59:22 PM  
buying extravagant lunches for a whole office 23 days out of every month times tens of thousands of offices? Now tell us how it's soo expensive to bring a new drug to the market and make us feel bad for your plight, big pharma
 
2013-08-28 01:59:24 PM  
"Ask your doctor if a 24 year-old blonde in a mini skirt is right for you."
 
2013-08-28 01:59:57 PM  
So to recap. Free samples and lunches = 'okay'.
Lobbying bribing lawmakers to allow price fixing = 'not okay'.
 
2013-08-28 02:00:42 PM  
Serious question: can you still make bank as a a rep?

I heard the market was saturated.
 
2013-08-28 02:01:01 PM  
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GBB
2013-08-28 02:01:27 PM  
The only thing worse than Big Phara reps are small, independent, holistic "vitamin" reps.

Had a lady unload her arsenal of "vitamin" breath sprays in front of me, pick one, take a shot, then offered me one.
Awwww, hell naw.
 
2013-08-28 02:02:50 PM  

Witty_Retort: How much could prescribed drug prices come down if pharma reps were done away with they'd stop spending all that money on TV commercials?



FTFY
 
2013-08-28 02:03:41 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Serious question: can you still make bank as a a rep?

I heard the market was saturated.


My ex is a rep for a local MRI company and she makes a shiatload working all of 8 hours a week. And that's just slinging scans to local offices.
 
2013-08-28 02:03:56 PM  
The free market model does not work for health care. Or prisons. Or police. Or the military. Or banks.

It's fine for non essential crap though.

/really a no brainer.
 
2013-08-28 02:05:21 PM  

Headso: buying extravagant lunches for a whole office 23 days out of every month times tens of thousands of offices? Now tell us how it's soo expensive to bring a new drug to the market and make us feel bad for your plight, big pharma


Yup. When I worked IT at a large medical office (3 buildings, lab etc) there were reps everyday of the week. They would buy lunch for the entire dept. they were visiting that day. IT would usually get the call and we would go over and get free lunch.
 
2013-08-28 02:07:45 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Serious question: can you still make bank as a a rep?

I heard the market was saturated.



My cousin started off as a rep for Merck in the early '90s. He made bank, but he was on the road so much he really couldn't enjoy it.
He got a gig with a medical supply company (surgical equipment, x-ray machines, etc). He's much happier with them.

He also said that about ten years ago, a lot of the pharma corps were replacing all of their older male reps with hot chicks right out of college, so the whoring part might have been a bit more literal.
 
2013-08-28 02:08:06 PM  
Having had to wait for hours at doctors offices while the pharma reps get in instantly I'm getting a kick out of this thread....No really. The office my mom goes to now charges the pharma reps full price for a visit,which is $200, and makes them wait til all the actual patients are seen or tells them to just come back after business hours are over. It's hilarious to see a pharma rep get all indignant at having to wait like a normal people would. These bastards shouldn't even be allowed to come in when an office is seeing patients.
 
2013-08-28 02:10:20 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just another Heartland Weirdass: Serious question: can you still make bank as a a rep?

I heard the market was saturated.

My ex is a rep for a local MRI company and she makes a shiatload working all of 8 hours a week. And that's just slinging scans to local offices.


There's still money to be made, but you're competing in an industry that is actively recruiting cheerleaders from college campuses to represent them.

There's a few books written on how to be a pharma rep (readily available on Amazon) and they also explain why you may not want to.
 
2013-08-28 02:12:20 PM  

Turfshoe: Not sure it is still the same way, but it used to be that if someone told you that a woman was a pharmaceutical sales rep, it was virtually guaranteed that they were hot.


That's been my experience - whenever I'd see one, it was always a hot girl.
 
2013-08-28 02:12:33 PM  

hardinparamedic: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Big Pharma, with their life saving medicines and development of new drugs. We should all use herbal remedies and homeopathy for our ailments the way nature intended.

Something about picking battles. Big Pharma does PLENTY they need to be legitimately criticized about. Their practices of influencing physicians in private practice and clinic to prescribe medications are one of them. They're not doing it on the basis of evidence and efficacy, but on the fact of handouts, kickbacks, and shiny pens.

/to be fair. drug rep swag is awesome.


In my wife's case, the doctor took her off the medicine that FINALLY worked for her (after trying tons of others) and put her back onto another, higher-priced drug that hadn't worked in the past.  Surprise, it didn't work again, and she ended up in the hospital.  Then when put on the one that WAS working, it no longer worked, and earlier research showed it probably wouldn't if treatment was stopped.

It just so happened that he had tons of "free samples" to give out of the drug that didn't work.  I wonder how he got them or why he had them.  I also wonder how that arsehole sleeps, sometimes... aside from on a pile of money.  >:(
 
2013-08-28 02:14:28 PM  
A few months ago I was waiting in a doctor's office while a family member was being seen inside.

Suddenly there was a crisis.  An all-hands-on-deck crisis.  Doctors stopped treating patients.  Nurses stopped taking samples.  Office workers stopped taking appointments and got the lead doctor on speakerphone to address this massive crisis:

The Big Pharma rep who buys them lunch on Thursdays is on vacation.

They were all freaking out.  Seriously.  At least 15 people who should have otherwise been treating/dealing with patients stopped everything they were doing for 20 minutes until the crisis was resolved.  How did they do it?

The head doctor/partner called the Pharma rep that buys them lunch on Friday, and s/he agreed to call a restaurant and have a catered lunch sent over.

Pathetic.

But better than the doctor's office I used to go to in Bellevue, Washington where they wouldn't even TALK to a patient until you swiped your credit card for the co-pay.  They didn't want to know your name, your illness, even if you had an appointment.  As soon as you walk in they point at the card reader on the counter.  Only after your $30 goes through will they speak to you.
 
2013-08-28 02:14:57 PM  
Thread needs more images of these dangerous drug pushers.
 
2013-08-28 02:16:40 PM  

Detinwolf: Turfshoe: Not sure it is still the same way, but it used to be that if someone told you that a woman was a pharmaceutical sales rep, it was virtually guaranteed that they were hot.

That's been my experience - whenever I'd see one, it was always a hot girl.


Ok... so where are the pictures of hot female pharma sales reps?  WHAR?!?!

/don't disappoint me fark...
 
2013-08-28 02:17:30 PM  
Here's an article from a few years ago about hotness and pharma reps.
 
2013-08-28 02:19:28 PM  

PsyLord: And this is one reason the cost of drugs is so high.  Stupid ads, PR sessions, wining and dining physicians/staff, etc.


You sound ugly......
 
2013-08-28 02:20:44 PM  

PsyLord: Detinwolf: Turfshoe: Not sure it is still the same way, but it used to be that if someone told you that a woman was a pharmaceutical sales rep, it was virtually guaranteed that they were hot.

That's been my experience - whenever I'd see one, it was always a hot girl.

Ok... so where are the pictures of hot female pharma sales reps?  WHAR?!?!

/don't disappoint me fark...



Look at teh article I linked.
 
2013-08-28 02:25:12 PM  

hitlersbrain: The free market model does not work for health care. Or prisons. Or police. Or the military. Or banks.

It's fine for non essential crap though.

/really a no brainer.


So food, shelter, clothing and transportation are non-essentials in your mind?

The free market has been working pretty well for these items.

/its really a no brainer
 
2013-08-28 02:25:51 PM  

Klippoklondike: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Big Pharma, with their life saving medicines and development of new drugs. We should all use herbal remedies and homeopathy for our ailments the way nature intended.

The problem is that the pharma reps often convince doctors to prescribe medication people don't really need.  Medication is obviously a good thing, but not when doctors are encouraged to diagnose an illness somebody mostly likely doesn't have just so they can sell more drugs.


Wouldn't it be the doctors at fault then? For over prescribing medicine because they got a free pen?
 
2013-08-28 02:28:22 PM  

give me doughnuts: Here's an article from a few years ago about hotness and pharma reps.


Cool. Im farked. But good article.

/early-mid 30s male RN with 3 undergrad degrees to pay for and mouths to feed. Any ideas?
 
2013-08-28 02:28:56 PM  
Dr. ChipNASA, I was told you would have free samples of blondes in miniskirts posing as sales reps.  I would also like to here about the Brunettes and Redheads, in the interest of both sides of the research.
 
2013-08-28 02:31:04 PM  
I remember reading an article about this way back when titled "America's other drug problem"

They had stories about "seminars" and "conferences" that were half-day events (if that) at Hawaii where everything was paid for, including the airfare.
 
2013-08-28 02:31:07 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: give me doughnuts: Here's an article from a few years ago about hotness and pharma reps.

Cool. Im farked. But good article.

/early-mid 30s male RN with 3 undergrad degrees to pay for and mouths to feed. Any ideas?


Stripping?
 
2013-08-28 02:32:02 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Serious question: can you still make bank as a a rep?

I heard the market was saturated.


No.  But you can make plenty of coin, scratch and cheddar
 
2013-08-28 02:34:06 PM  
I was in a gratute program (M.Ed) about a dozen years ago with a 23 year oldwoman who had a BS in Chem and wanted to be a teacher.  It's at this point that I should mention she was an equal blend of "Damn cute" and "Smokin' Hot" - anyway, 90% of the way through the program, with graduation in sight, she dropped to go be a drug rep - convinced by her friend (same attributes) that she could make bank.

She probably made more in those first 5 years than she would make teaching for 20.... can't say it was a bad decision but I wonder if she's still got that gig now.
 
2013-08-28 02:34:35 PM  
I used to manage a small cardiology office that was part of a large practice.

We got bought out by a large hospital and ended our meetings with drug reps. New legislation implemented to present more transparency + new ownership + general pain in the ass eventually limited the doctors meetings to very brief educational sessions with no food or gifts. I think up to $10 was ok but beyond that had to be reported by the doc.

We used to get free food all the time. Everyone. Even the secretary. Huge sushi boats, panera, olive garden, etc.

As for the girls, none of ours were good looking with the exception of two hot milfs who worked as partners. I know of some pharmaceutical companies that are full of hot girls (go look at who Nephron hires) but for the most part they want these people to build good relationships with very busy and often intimidating doctors. The docs don't give a fark about them and usually take the free lunch so all the employees get free food and that's always a morale booster in a work environment.
 
2013-08-28 02:36:23 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: give me doughnuts: Here's an article from a few years ago about hotness and pharma reps.

Cool. Im farked. But good article.

/early-mid 30s male RN with 3 undergrad degrees to pay for and mouths to feed. Any ideas?


Be a sales rep that caters towards proctologists?
 
2013-08-28 02:36:51 PM  

give me doughnuts: Witty_Retort: How much could prescribed drug prices come down if pharma reps were done away with they'd stop spending all that money on TV commercials?


FTFY


Why not both?
 
2013-08-28 02:37:56 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: give me doughnuts: Here's an article from a few years ago about hotness and pharma reps.

Cool. Im farked. But good article.

/early-mid 30s male RN with 3 undergrad degrees to pay for and mouths to feed. Any ideas?


Gay for Pay?
 
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