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(Washington Post)   Because the defending Super Bowl champs have to open their season on the road, the NFL decided to decorate the stadium they are visiting with banners celebrating their win; which for Denver fans is adding insult to injury   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 127
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2013-08-28 02:17:40 PM  
Let's see if Chump Bailey can go a game without gambling and getting burned for a long TD. Until then, Flacco has just as much right to cockstamp the field as Manning does.
 
2013-08-28 02:21:01 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: The last time the Donkeys John Elway suffered a heartbreaking first round loss to an inferior team after a dominant regular season, they went on to win two Super Bowls.  So I'm ok with this.


fixed

/Peyton's very good at favring it up in the playoffs
 
2013-08-28 02:21:56 PM  
Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?
 
2013-08-28 02:22:25 PM  

abhorrent1: That's okay. They'll get the last laugh when the Ravens suck balls this year.


i guess they'll just have to cry into their wads of money and lombardi trophy
 
2013-08-28 02:24:55 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: And in Philly the three arenas are right next to each other and share parking lots, and there have been days with all three in use without much trouble. I guess in Baltimore they figured attendance would never be much of an issue, and for the most part they wouldn't have been wrong.


No offense but designing for peak usage is kind of stupid.  This is the first time this has been an issue in ~15 years the two teams have shared a lot.  Should they really spend money to build out parking infrastructure for a conflict that has come up once in fifteen years?  Even then, it was completely avoidable if it wasn't for Roger Goodell's ego.

The O's attendance didn't really dip after the new stadium opened until ~04 so the point is invalid -- they spent 6-7 years housing fairly full stadiums next to each other.

Maybe Philly residents should look into which politicians' friends got contracts to build parking lots that get used once a year?
 
2013-08-28 02:26:53 PM  
With no dog in this fight, I don't think they should have ads for the other team. It seems in poor taste.
 
2013-08-28 02:28:38 PM  

rickythepenguin: TuteTibiImperes: like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night,

yeah, i hadn't thought of that......the NFL does that in very unusual circumstances.  Katrina forced the Saints to play "home" games at what, 3-4 different venues, and i think one was a college stadium.  And didn't the Bears play somewhere else when Soldier Field was renovated?  And didn't hte Vikings play elsewhere when snow collapsed the dome?

the only other that immediately comes to mind was about a decade ago, when the San Diego wildries were really bad, and Qualcomm was used as an emergency shelter, so the Bolts/Dolphins game got moved to Sun Devil.  Yeah, that wasn't weird.

(it was billed as a charity game, the price of admission being whatever you felt like throwing in.....shiatty farking arizona fans raised the princely sum of like, something ridiculous like $32,000 dollars, which after doing the math versus attendnace, was determined to be a per-fan donation of like, a buck fiddy per fan. not a great moment for the Phoenix NFL fanbase....)


A few years ago (2002 or 2003) the Chargers played a home game in Arizona due to the wild fires we had down there at the time and the poor air quality. The game was also moved from a Sunday to a Monday so NFL could have been more flexible like they have been in the past.
 
2013-08-28 02:28:43 PM  

under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?


nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.
 
2013-08-28 02:30:11 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?

nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.


heh, way to go Fark!
 
2013-08-28 02:31:03 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?

nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.


Damnit, Goodell is acting like Hitler.
 
2013-08-28 02:39:04 PM  

rickythepenguin: yeah, i hadn't thought of that......the NFL does that in very unusual circumstances. Katrina forced the Saints to play "home" games at what, 3-4 different venues, and i think one was a college stadium. And didn't the Bears play somewhere else when Soldier Field was renovated? And didn't hte Vikings play elsewhere when snow collapsed the dome?


* The Saints played home games at the Meadowlands, San Antonio and LSU's stadium after Katrina
* The Chargers played a home game in Arizona during the wildfires
* Minnesota played a home game in Detroit, and one at the University of Minnesota's stadium after the roof collapse (this was a fun one because Minnesota's stadium isn't really built for Minnesota winters as college football is generally over in November.  There are no heating coils for the field so there was snow all over a really hard playing surface and I'm pretty sure Brian Urlacher gave Brett Favre a concussion that night)
* The Bears played at the University of Illinois during the renovation of Soldier Field (I was a grad student there at the time.  It sounds fun in theory, but campus life sucked that semester.  The bars were empty on Bears weekends because everyone jacked up their prices and charged cover).

Generally, most stadium leases require teams to play at least 10 games in the stadium that season unless some sort of emergency requires them to move -- that prevents teams from pulling a Buffalo Bills-esque move by moving the team without actually moving it.
 
2013-08-28 02:40:00 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Maryland football won't have anything going on that day

this entire season

FTFY
 
2013-08-28 02:43:56 PM  

mjones73: Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!

He should add in a thank you for Elvis too...


isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?
 
2013-08-28 02:44:35 PM  

balki1867: AdmirableSnackbar: And in Philly the three arenas are right next to each other and share parking lots, and there have been days with all three in use without much trouble. I guess in Baltimore they figured attendance would never be much of an issue, and for the most part they wouldn't have been wrong.

No offense but designing for peak usage is kind of stupid.  This is the first time this has been an issue in ~15 years the two teams have shared a lot.  Should they really spend money to build out parking infrastructure for a conflict that has come up once in fifteen years?  Even then, it was completely avoidable if it wasn't for Roger Goodell's ego.

The O's attendance didn't really dip after the new stadium opened until ~04 so the point is invalid -- they spent 6-7 years housing fairly full stadiums next to each other.

Maybe Philly residents should look into which politicians' friends got contracts to build parking lots that get used once a year?


They're not designed for peak usage.  Each of the parking lots - for the Linc, CBP, and Wells Fargo Center - can handle a good portion of the parking required and use each others' lots as overflow parking.  It just becomes an issue when there are two or three teams playing on the same day, but even then people work around it.  Then again, you're less likely to get stabbed on the Philly subway than you are on Baltimore public transit.

As for the O's, attendance dipped as early as '99.  I'm pretty sure I remember '98 being easy to get tickets, but by 2001 they were practically giving tickets away and playing before just a couple thousand on most nights.
 
2013-08-28 02:47:13 PM  

UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.


Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?
 
2013-08-28 02:52:47 PM  

mjones73: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

This would have been a good shot

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Hey they have a bronco picture up too. This should have matched it www.denverbroncos.com

I don't think that gets shown enough.
 
2013-08-28 02:54:46 PM  

The Singing Bush: UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.

Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?


Being told to "build a museum" by the commissioner before he grants a team to the cluster-fark that is Jacksonville tends to do that.
 
2013-08-28 02:55:57 PM  
Also, fark Thursday night football.
 
2013-08-28 03:00:55 PM  

SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?


it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.


yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.
 
2013-08-28 03:01:18 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.


I'm a Bronco fan, and this cracked me up. :D

under a mountain: Damnit, Goodell is acting like Hitler.


He is an advocate of the Blitz.
 
2013-08-28 03:10:42 PM  

Deneb81: The Singing Bush: UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.

Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?

Being told to "build a museum" by the commissioner before he grants a team to the cluster-fark that is Jacksonville tends to do that.


Why would something Tags said like 20 years ago lead you to believe that Goodell hates Baltimore?  The Ravens are held in very high regards as a model franchise.
 
2013-08-28 03:12:34 PM  

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: mjones73: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

This would have been a good shot

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Hey they have a bronco picture up too. This should have matched it [550x300 from http://www.denverbroncos.com/assets/images/imported/DEN/photos/article -images/2013/01-January/130112_moore_inside.jpg image 550x300]

I don't think that gets shown enough.


Now that's something to be irate about. :D

It was glorious to watch on TV, the shot of the line of scrimage, Flacco stepping up in the pocket to avoid pressure then heaving the ball down the field and the camera panning out to see Jacoby Jones over the defense, all I could do was pray he caught it then sit there in disbelief that just happened.
 
2013-08-28 03:26:46 PM  

rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.


The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?
 
2013-08-28 03:29:50 PM  

Deneb81: rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.

The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?


That's where I hope Stokely and Clark come into play.. Let Smith and Rice keep the defenders busy, it should open up opportunities in the middle.
 
2013-08-28 03:45:13 PM  

mjones73: Deneb81: rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.

The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

That's where I hope Stokely and Clark come into play.. Let Smith and Rice keep the defenders busy, it should open up opportunities in the middle.


It should be interesting. For at least a quarter. We'll probably know if it'll be a game by then.

Webb has had great success on Welker in the past, but Jimmy Smith will be out-matched by Thomas. Luckily, there likely won't be a lot of time for the double moves Smith falls for like Charlie Brown.
 
2013-08-28 03:49:35 PM  

Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?


....yeah, but still.  8.5?
 
2013-08-28 04:02:15 PM  

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?



That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points
 
2013-08-28 04:09:22 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points


It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.
 
2013-08-28 04:13:24 PM  

SenorBenedict: Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!

If I was your bookie I'd take that bet with a big smile on my face. Frankenhead is going to throw so many pics you'll think Tebow showed up.


Throw so many pics of what?
 
2013-08-28 04:15:53 PM  
Wait, Denver is actually picked to win?  That's the lunacy.
 
2013-08-28 04:16:10 PM  

UDel_Kitty: I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.


Goodell just hates football.
 
2013-08-28 04:16:32 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

I'm a Bronco fan, and this cracked me up. :D


They should have also included a huge banner of the fax machine.
 
2013-08-28 04:23:35 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.


PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.
 
2013-08-28 04:31:40 PM  
Wadded Beef:

Throw so many pics of what?

His mangled frankenpenis having sex with a papa johns pizza.
 
2013-08-28 04:33:47 PM  

Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.


Agreed. Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is. And the Jets ARE god awful, which is why they are a 3 pt dog at home to friggin' TB.
 
2013-08-28 04:34:05 PM  
Deneb81:
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.



Amazing

The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens are sharing a dog house with the Emergency QB Buffalo Bills and the Cap Casualty Oakland Raiders.

I would like to know what the lines where for the first games of previous years champions just to see how much of an outlier this situation is.
 
2013-08-28 04:35:12 PM  

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


Remember their last duel? The Ponies were 9 point favorites.

/9.
//9!
 
2013-08-28 04:44:47 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: Deneb81:
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.


Amazing

The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens are sharing a dog house with the Emergency QB Buffalo Bills and the Cap Casualty Oakland Raiders.

I would like to know what the lines where for the first games of previous years champions just to see how much of an outlier this situation is.


The Ravens lost a lot from last year's team. Overwhelmingly, folks seem to feel they lost too much to be legit contenders again. Time will tell, but they are on the road against a conference favorite. The number might be high, but people are obviously willing to put their money on the Ravens not being as good as last year.
 
2013-08-28 04:55:54 PM  

Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.


Mostly these spreads mean that Vegas isn't getting enough action on the Ravens, Titans, Raiders etc.  The line is not a prediction.\

/that said, there are football reasons for not betting on these teams
 
2013-08-28 05:07:22 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.

Mostly these spreads mean that Vegas isn't getting enough action on the Ravens, Titans, Raiders etc.  The line is not a prediction.\

/that said, there are football reasons for not betting on these teams


Vegas wants to set the line so half the people put money on one side of the line and the other half o the other side because they are guaranteed to pay off the winning bets with the amount that the losers lost while keeping the money from the difference in odds (usually a line starts at -110 on both sides so vegas makes 10 dollars for each 100 bet).

Vegas does not like it when 80% of the people are on one side of the line because while they might profit a lot if there is a huge upset, they can also be out a lot of money if the side with 80% of the bets come on top. Vegas has lines for NFL football amazingly accurate for what they want to accomplish.
 
2013-08-28 05:27:04 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.


He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.
 
2013-08-28 05:43:57 PM  

SenorBenedict: Wadded Beef:

Throw so many pics of what?

His mangled frankenpenis having sex with a papa johns pizza.


Ah, but wait til you see what happens NEXT!
 
2013-08-28 05:54:31 PM  

redmid17: CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.

He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.


You are right of course but I had to go to wikipedia to convince myself of that.
It is a little frightening how those memories have become conflated in my mind.
If we were drunk in a bar you could have taken me for a lot of money on that bet.
 
2013-08-28 06:00:09 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.


due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
 
2013-08-28 06:01:54 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: redmid17: CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.

He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.

You are right of course but I had to go to wikipedia to convince myself of that.
It is a little frightening how those memories have become conflated in my mind.
If we were drunk in a bar you could have taken me for a lot of money on that bet.


If we were drunk in a bar, I'd be arguing that Marlin Jackson intercepted that 4th and 2  to end the game and send the Colts to the SB.

Sobriety can be overrated.
 
2013-08-28 06:12:27 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.


Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.
 
2013-08-28 06:23:04 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


I would be, their first team offense hasn't looked good at all this preseason. Broncos may win against a field stripped ravens team, and they'll probably pad their record on the rest of the garbage in the afc (3 of those teams being in their own damn division) but once they face a real play off team they'll fold faster than Jeff Tuel facing the patriots.
 
2013-08-28 06:24:06 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets
 
2013-08-28 06:26:48 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


I'm not a betting guy, but you always have to wonder why Vegas is tempting folks to bet on the Ravens with that big of a spread.
 
2013-08-28 06:26:58 PM  
Here's the thing -

The Raven's defense is arguably more athletic and talented than last year. Especially on the line. But it may not be in sync yet.

Denver's offense is arguably better than last year. Except on the line where it's arguably weaker. But with some limited preseason time for Welker and others it may not be in sync yet.

The Raven's O is weaker without a couple playmakers.

The Broncos D is arguably weaker, and without a couple playmakers.

I do get the feeling the Broncos may want it more.
Losing a playoff game - especially as a 9 pt favorite does that. So we'll see. But 8.5 points based on the above? That's crazy talk.
 
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