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(Washington Post)   Because the defending Super Bowl champs have to open their season on the road, the NFL decided to decorate the stadium they are visiting with banners celebrating their win; which for Denver fans is adding insult to injury   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 128
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2013-08-28 12:26:05 PM
Insult to Injury, also known as the Raiders starting offense.
 
2013-08-28 12:31:59 PM
It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member
 
2013-08-28 12:33:14 PM
I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.
 
2013-08-28 12:33:35 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member


Wait they did this outside of arrowhead?
 
2013-08-28 12:33:59 PM
i did not know that the ravens and orioles both play at the same stadiums.
 
2013-08-28 12:36:21 PM
Finally an ELITE QB is featured in Denver!

iggyskuz: i did not know that the ravens and orioles both play at the same stadiums.


They don't but they share parking lots and the NFL didn't want to share the spotlight on opening night.
 
2013-08-28 12:36:53 PM

iggyskuz: i did not know that the ravens and orioles both play at the same stadiums.


They are close enough that Chris Davis could probably hit M&T from Camden Yards, however, the stadiums do share parking lots.
 
2013-08-28 12:37:38 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: They don't but they share parking lots and the NFL didn't want to share the spotlight on opening nightAngelos is an asshole.

 
2013-08-28 12:37:45 PM

SenorBenedict: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

Wait they did this outside of arrowhead?

Someone at Arrowhead can top 8 one and dones?
The O&D club will need to move their head quarters again
 
2013-08-28 12:39:33 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: SenorBenedict: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

Wait they did this outside of arrowhead?
Someone at Arrowhead can top 8 one and dones?
The O&D club will need to move their head quarters again


Last time the chiefs won a playoff game Clinton was in office, thats pretty bad. They should at least get points for being uniquely awful.
 
2013-08-28 12:41:03 PM
If the NFL had followed its own precedent and moved the home game to Wednesday this wouldn't even be a problem. They wanted to show they were the most powerful sports league by trying to get the O's to break players union rules, and the NFL ended up losing. Should've just scheduled on Wednesday.
 
2013-08-28 12:42:51 PM

MmmCrime: If the NFL had followed its own precedent and moved the home game to Wednesday this wouldn't even be a problem. They wanted to show they were the most powerful sports league by trying to get the O's to break players union rules, and the NFL ended up losing. Should've just scheduled on Wednesday.


Couldn't, TV contract.
 
2013-08-28 12:42:52 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2013-08-28 12:43:21 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Finally an ELITE QB is featured in Denver!

iggyskuz: i did not know that the ravens and orioles both play at the same stadiums.

They don't but they share parking lots and the NFL didn't want to share the spotlight on opening night.


I'm baffled at why they didn't strongarm the Orioles into playing their game away instead of the Ravens.  I guess someone in the Orioles organization has some pull.
 
2013-08-28 12:48:52 PM
What surprises me (well, not really, but still) is that people are actually upset about this.  It's a picture of a dude.  There's no point in defacing it or complaining about it.
 
2013-08-28 12:49:07 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: MmmCrime: If the NFL had followed its own precedent and moved the home game to Wednesday this wouldn't even be a problem. They wanted to show they were the most powerful sports league by trying to get the O's to break players union rules, and the NFL ended up losing. Should've just scheduled on Wednesday.

Couldn't, TV contract.


Have an article for that? Would like to read it, figure out why the networks wouldn't wanna have the football game on Wednesday vs. Thursday.
 
2013-08-28 12:50:08 PM
With 8 days until the actual game I have to wonder how bad the defacement is going to get.
 
2013-08-28 12:50:59 PM
The last time the Donkeys suffered a heartbreaking first round loss to an inferior team after a dominant regular season, they went on to win two Super Bowls.  So I'm ok with this.
 
2013-08-28 12:53:26 PM
Peter Angelos IS an asshole but the Orioles game was scheduled well in advance
 
2013-08-28 12:56:49 PM

ElwoodCuse: Peter Angelos IS an asshole but the Orioles game was scheduled well in advance


Oh, I know. I would have likely ultimately done the same thing if no other compromise could have been made, but I just like pointing out that scum-bag lawyer extraordinaire Angelos is an asshole whenever I get the chance.
 
2013-08-28 12:58:35 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I'm baffled at why they didn't strongarm the Orioles into playing their game away instead of the Ravens. I guess someone in the Orioles organization has some pull.


Granted I'm a much bigger fan of the Ravens than the Os, but even I can't get too upset with the Os for not budging. I think there were a lot of factors that would make it difficult for the Os to reschedule around the Ravens. Players union rules and travel schedules for both baseball teams for starters. Remember that both baseball teams involved have games/series before and after the series in Baltimore, and just doing a simple switch might not be as simple as it seems.

The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.
 
2013-08-28 01:00:37 PM

MmmCrime: Ow! That was my feelings!: MmmCrime: If the NFL had followed its own precedent and moved the home game to Wednesday this wouldn't even be a problem. They wanted to show they were the most powerful sports league by trying to get the O's to break players union rules, and the NFL ended up losing. Should've just scheduled on Wednesday.

Couldn't, TV contract.

Have an article for that? Would like to read it, figure out why the networks wouldn't wanna have the football game on Wednesday vs. Thursday.


Nope, found the article but it was just speculation from the writer. Nevermind.
 
2013-08-28 01:01:11 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Representative of the unwashed masses: They don't but they share parking lots and the NFL didn't want to share the spotlight on opening nightAngelos is an asshole.


That's a given regardless of the situation...
 
2013-08-28 01:03:31 PM

INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg


Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.
 
2013-08-28 01:03:54 PM
They did put both QB's up at least...

media.zenfs.com
 
2013-08-28 01:06:31 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.


This would have been a good shot

bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com
 
2013-08-28 01:14:46 PM
Did some draw a penis on the one Flacco poster pictured in the article?
 
2013-08-28 01:28:14 PM

Gecko Gingrich: ElwoodCuse: Peter Angelos IS an asshole but the Orioles game was scheduled well in advance

Oh, I know. I would have likely ultimately done the same thing if no other compromise could have been made, but I just like pointing out that scum-bag lawyer extraordinaire Angelos is an asshole whenever I get the chance.


I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.
 
2013-08-28 01:29:40 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I'm baffled at why they didn't strongarm the Orioles into playing their game away instead of the Ravens. I guess someone in the Orioles organization has some pull.


I'm sure 23,000 O's fans will be happy to watch their third place team, with a very attenuated hope for the Wild Wild card, host the last place ChiSox 4-5 game when they could have had 65,000 or so sell out the home game that same night.

oh baseball.  continuously tap dancing on your dick.
 
2013-08-28 01:32:50 PM

sammyk: With 8 days until the actual game I have to wonder how bad the defacement is going to get.


ah yes, the Jacksonville games. Have they gone back to the playoffs since?
 
2013-08-28 01:34:56 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.


i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?
 
2013-08-28 01:34:58 PM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-28 01:36:09 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: Gecko Gingrich: ElwoodCuse: Peter Angelos IS an asshole but the Orioles game was scheduled well in advance

Oh, I know. I would have likely ultimately done the same thing if no other compromise could have been made, but I just like pointing out that scum-bag lawyer extraordinaire Angelos is an asshole whenever I get the chance.

I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.


The town probably could (not as many people would go see the Os). However, the parking lots couldn't handle it since both fields share the parking lots. I mean, they have 3 teams play in the same building in Staples center and at times the Dodgers are playing a few miles down the freeway and LA can handle that.
 
2013-08-28 01:38:33 PM

rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?


Wait two shiatty teams fight for nothing? Don't be ragging on the Mariners @ Astros!
 
2013-08-28 01:41:02 PM
The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!
 
2013-08-28 01:44:41 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!


I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.
 
2013-08-28 01:46:20 PM

ddam: AdmirableSnackbar: Gecko Gingrich: ElwoodCuse: Peter Angelos IS an asshole but the Orioles game was scheduled well in advance

Oh, I know. I would have likely ultimately done the same thing if no other compromise could have been made, but I just like pointing out that scum-bag lawyer extraordinaire Angelos is an asshole whenever I get the chance.

I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

The town probably could (not as many people would go see the Os). However, the parking lots couldn't handle it since both fields share the parking lots. I mean, they have 3 teams play in the same building in Staples center and at times the Dodgers are playing a few miles down the freeway and LA can handle that.


And in Philly the three arenas are right next to each other and share parking lots, and there have been days with all three in use without much trouble.  I guess in Baltimore they figured attendance would never be much of an issue, and for the most part they wouldn't have been wrong.
 
2013-08-28 01:47:56 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!


Let me fuel your anger some more...

media.nola.com
 
2013-08-28 01:51:41 PM

SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.


Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!
 
2013-08-28 01:52:46 PM

rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?


If nothing else it seems like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night, Maryland doesn't have anything going on that day and Byrd Stadium has fieldturf, so it wouldn't mess the field up for their game on Saturday.
 
2013-08-28 01:53:03 PM

Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!


If I was your bookie I'd take that bet with a big smile on my face. Frankenhead is going to throw so many pics you'll think Tebow showed up.
 
2013-08-28 01:53:05 PM

Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!


He should add in a thank you for Elvis too...
 
2013-08-28 01:58:56 PM

TuteTibiImperes: rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?

If nothing else it seems like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night, Maryland doesn't have anything going on that day and Byrd Stadium has fieldturf, so it wouldn't mess the field up for their game on Saturday.


It's got about 20,000 less seats then M&T among other things.
 
2013-08-28 01:59:58 PM

mjones73: TuteTibiImperes: rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?

If nothing else it seems like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night, Maryland doesn't have anything going on that day and Byrd Stadium has fieldturf, so it wouldn't mess the field up for their game on Saturday.

It's got about 20,000 less seats then M&T among other things.


Would've still been better for the local fans than putting the game in Denver.
 
2013-08-28 02:02:52 PM

Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!


Playing what? Beer pong?
 
2013-08-28 02:03:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: mjones73: TuteTibiImperes: rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?

If nothing else it seems like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night, Maryland doesn't have anything going on that day and Byrd Stadium has fieldturf, so it wouldn't mess the field up for their game on Saturday.

It's got about 20,000 less seats then M&T among other things.

Would've still been better for the local fans than putting the game in Denver.


Yeah, still would have been a nightmare with ticketing between PSL owners and the other tickets sold for the game.
 
2013-08-28 02:03:48 PM
That's just wrong. I hope the fans riot and burn the stadium down.
 
2013-08-28 02:16:02 PM
That's okay. They'll get the last laugh when the Ravens suck balls this year.
 
2013-08-28 02:16:08 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Angelos is an asshole.


Generally I agree with you, but not in this situation.  The whole stadium complex is sitting empty the day before but Dear Leader Goodell didn't want to move the game to a Wednesday night.  The Orioles schedule was announced way back (~1 year ago, before LAST football season even kicked off).  And because the O's are playing the White Sox, it would've been a really complicated swap.  The Orioles played a 3-game series in Chicago over the 4th of July whereas the Sox are playing 4 in Baltimore next week.  Swapping the series would involve forcing the teams to play a double-header, mess up travel schedules, and force the White Sox to abandon their tradition of hosting a game on the 4th of July.  They even looked at playing in the afternoon, but that proved to be difficult since both teams are flying in the night before, and it would be really difficult to clear the lots after the Orioles game and reopen for the Ravens, especially on a weeknight when a lot of Baltimore is also just trying to get home.  And if game 1 goes into extra innings, you're screwed.

Logistically, moving the Ravens game by one day was easily the simplest solution to this problem but Goodell chose to screw the Ravens and try to pass the blame to MLB.
 
2013-08-28 02:17:02 PM

TuteTibiImperes: like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night,


yeah, i hadn't thought of that......the NFL does that in very unusual circumstances.  Katrina forced the Saints to play "home" games at what, 3-4 different venues, and i think one was a college stadium.  And didn't the Bears play somewhere else when Soldier Field was renovated?  And didn't hte Vikings play elsewhere when snow collapsed the dome?

the only other that immediately comes to mind was about a decade ago, when the San Diego wildries were really bad, and Qualcomm was used as an emergency shelter, so the Bolts/Dolphins game got moved to Sun Devil.  Yeah, that wasn't weird.

(it was billed as a charity game, the price of admission being whatever you felt like throwing in.....shiatty farking arizona fans raised the princely sum of like, something ridiculous like $32,000 dollars, which after doing the math versus attendnace, was determined to be a per-fan donation of like, a buck fiddy per fan. not a great moment for the Phoenix NFL fanbase....)
 
2013-08-28 02:17:40 PM
Let's see if Chump Bailey can go a game without gambling and getting burned for a long TD. Until then, Flacco has just as much right to cockstamp the field as Manning does.
 
2013-08-28 02:21:01 PM

AliceBToklasLives: The last time the Donkeys John Elway suffered a heartbreaking first round loss to an inferior team after a dominant regular season, they went on to win two Super Bowls.  So I'm ok with this.


fixed

/Peyton's very good at favring it up in the playoffs
 
2013-08-28 02:21:56 PM
Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?
 
2013-08-28 02:22:25 PM

abhorrent1: That's okay. They'll get the last laugh when the Ravens suck balls this year.


i guess they'll just have to cry into their wads of money and lombardi trophy
 
2013-08-28 02:24:55 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: And in Philly the three arenas are right next to each other and share parking lots, and there have been days with all three in use without much trouble. I guess in Baltimore they figured attendance would never be much of an issue, and for the most part they wouldn't have been wrong.


No offense but designing for peak usage is kind of stupid.  This is the first time this has been an issue in ~15 years the two teams have shared a lot.  Should they really spend money to build out parking infrastructure for a conflict that has come up once in fifteen years?  Even then, it was completely avoidable if it wasn't for Roger Goodell's ego.

The O's attendance didn't really dip after the new stadium opened until ~04 so the point is invalid -- they spent 6-7 years housing fairly full stadiums next to each other.

Maybe Philly residents should look into which politicians' friends got contracts to build parking lots that get used once a year?
 
2013-08-28 02:26:53 PM
With no dog in this fight, I don't think they should have ads for the other team. It seems in poor taste.
 
2013-08-28 02:28:38 PM

rickythepenguin: TuteTibiImperes: like the Ravens could have worked out a deal with the Terps to use their stadium for the night,

yeah, i hadn't thought of that......the NFL does that in very unusual circumstances.  Katrina forced the Saints to play "home" games at what, 3-4 different venues, and i think one was a college stadium.  And didn't the Bears play somewhere else when Soldier Field was renovated?  And didn't hte Vikings play elsewhere when snow collapsed the dome?

the only other that immediately comes to mind was about a decade ago, when the San Diego wildries were really bad, and Qualcomm was used as an emergency shelter, so the Bolts/Dolphins game got moved to Sun Devil.  Yeah, that wasn't weird.

(it was billed as a charity game, the price of admission being whatever you felt like throwing in.....shiatty farking arizona fans raised the princely sum of like, something ridiculous like $32,000 dollars, which after doing the math versus attendnace, was determined to be a per-fan donation of like, a buck fiddy per fan. not a great moment for the Phoenix NFL fanbase....)


A few years ago (2002 or 2003) the Chargers played a home game in Arizona due to the wild fires we had down there at the time and the poor air quality. The game was also moved from a Sunday to a Monday so NFL could have been more flexible like they have been in the past.
 
2013-08-28 02:28:43 PM

under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?


nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.
 
2013-08-28 02:30:11 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?

nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.


heh, way to go Fark!
 
2013-08-28 02:31:03 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: under a mountain: Wednesday the 4th is the eve of a Jewish Holiday, and every good Farker knows the Jews control everything.

/Godwined?

nope. It'shiatler/Nazis for a Godwin, not Jews.


Damnit, Goodell is acting like Hitler.
 
2013-08-28 02:39:04 PM

rickythepenguin: yeah, i hadn't thought of that......the NFL does that in very unusual circumstances. Katrina forced the Saints to play "home" games at what, 3-4 different venues, and i think one was a college stadium. And didn't the Bears play somewhere else when Soldier Field was renovated? And didn't hte Vikings play elsewhere when snow collapsed the dome?


* The Saints played home games at the Meadowlands, San Antonio and LSU's stadium after Katrina
* The Chargers played a home game in Arizona during the wildfires
* Minnesota played a home game in Detroit, and one at the University of Minnesota's stadium after the roof collapse (this was a fun one because Minnesota's stadium isn't really built for Minnesota winters as college football is generally over in November.  There are no heating coils for the field so there was snow all over a really hard playing surface and I'm pretty sure Brian Urlacher gave Brett Favre a concussion that night)
* The Bears played at the University of Illinois during the renovation of Soldier Field (I was a grad student there at the time.  It sounds fun in theory, but campus life sucked that semester.  The bars were empty on Bears weekends because everyone jacked up their prices and charged cover).

Generally, most stadium leases require teams to play at least 10 games in the stadium that season unless some sort of emergency requires them to move -- that prevents teams from pulling a Buffalo Bills-esque move by moving the team without actually moving it.
 
2013-08-28 02:40:00 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Maryland football won't have anything going on that day

this entire season

FTFY
 
2013-08-28 02:43:56 PM

mjones73: Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!

He should add in a thank you for Elvis too...


isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?
 
2013-08-28 02:44:35 PM

balki1867: AdmirableSnackbar: And in Philly the three arenas are right next to each other and share parking lots, and there have been days with all three in use without much trouble. I guess in Baltimore they figured attendance would never be much of an issue, and for the most part they wouldn't have been wrong.

No offense but designing for peak usage is kind of stupid.  This is the first time this has been an issue in ~15 years the two teams have shared a lot.  Should they really spend money to build out parking infrastructure for a conflict that has come up once in fifteen years?  Even then, it was completely avoidable if it wasn't for Roger Goodell's ego.

The O's attendance didn't really dip after the new stadium opened until ~04 so the point is invalid -- they spent 6-7 years housing fairly full stadiums next to each other.

Maybe Philly residents should look into which politicians' friends got contracts to build parking lots that get used once a year?


They're not designed for peak usage.  Each of the parking lots - for the Linc, CBP, and Wells Fargo Center - can handle a good portion of the parking required and use each others' lots as overflow parking.  It just becomes an issue when there are two or three teams playing on the same day, but even then people work around it.  Then again, you're less likely to get stabbed on the Philly subway than you are on Baltimore public transit.

As for the O's, attendance dipped as early as '99.  I'm pretty sure I remember '98 being easy to get tickets, but by 2001 they were practically giving tickets away and playing before just a couple thousand on most nights.
 
2013-08-28 02:47:13 PM

UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.


Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?
 
2013-08-28 02:52:47 PM

mjones73: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

This would have been a good shot

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Hey they have a bronco picture up too. This should have matched it www.denverbroncos.com

I don't think that gets shown enough.
 
2013-08-28 02:54:46 PM

The Singing Bush: UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.

Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?


Being told to "build a museum" by the commissioner before he grants a team to the cluster-fark that is Jacksonville tends to do that.
 
2013-08-28 02:55:57 PM
Also, fark Thursday night football.
 
2013-08-28 03:00:55 PM

SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?


it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.


yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.
 
2013-08-28 03:01:18 PM

Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.


I'm a Bronco fan, and this cracked me up. :D

under a mountain: Damnit, Goodell is acting like Hitler.


He is an advocate of the Blitz.
 
2013-08-28 03:10:42 PM

Deneb81: The Singing Bush: UDel_Kitty: The NFL could have more easily played the game on Wednesday. I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.

Of course you do.  You can't be a true Ravens fan without the Baltimore Persecution ComplexTM now can you?

Being told to "build a museum" by the commissioner before he grants a team to the cluster-fark that is Jacksonville tends to do that.


Why would something Tags said like 20 years ago lead you to believe that Goodell hates Baltimore?  The Ravens are held in very high regards as a model franchise.
 
2013-08-28 03:12:34 PM

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: mjones73: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

This would have been a good shot

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Hey they have a bronco picture up too. This should have matched it [550x300 from http://www.denverbroncos.com/assets/images/imported/DEN/photos/article -images/2013/01-January/130112_moore_inside.jpg image 550x300]

I don't think that gets shown enough.


Now that's something to be irate about. :D

It was glorious to watch on TV, the shot of the line of scrimage, Flacco stepping up in the pocket to avoid pressure then heaving the ball down the field and the camera panning out to see Jacoby Jones over the defense, all I could do was pray he caught it then sit there in disbelief that just happened.
 
2013-08-28 03:26:46 PM

rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.


The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?
 
2013-08-28 03:29:50 PM

Deneb81: rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.

The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?


That's where I hope Stokely and Clark come into play.. Let Smith and Rice keep the defenders busy, it should open up opportunities in the middle.
 
2013-08-28 03:45:13 PM

mjones73: Deneb81: rickythepenguin: SlothB77: isn't the Vegas line around 7 or 6.5?

it was i hitnk 8.5 yesterday, which is lunacy.


Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Also, fark Thursday night football.

yeah....i just can never get into it.  the matchups always seem lame and the game just doesn't feel right.

The Raven's O is a mess right now because none of the receivers but Torrey Smith are playing well, and their top two TEs are out (Dickson may be back by game 1). The O-line is still getting in its groove. Dumervil being gone and von Miller being suspended will lessen Denver's pass rush though.

But the front 7 on D are scary good, which doesn't bode we'll for a Broncos O-line that's shaky from injury right now. (Ngata on a third string center, with Suggs and Dumervil on the tackles is a hard charge to stop. They have 7 d-linemen to rotate that could start on most teams, and Daryl Smith is underrated. Back end is a little weak - Jimmy Smith isn't much, neither is Ihedigbo.)

The plus for the Broncos are that they're likely looking at a quick passing game anyway and that helps with the rush. Expect a lot of slants and screens.

The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

That's where I hope Stokely and Clark come into play.. Let Smith and Rice keep the defenders busy, it should open up opportunities in the middle.


It should be interesting. For at least a quarter. We'll probably know if it'll be a game by then.

Webb has had great success on Welker in the past, but Jimmy Smith will be out-matched by Thomas. Luckily, there likely won't be a lot of time for the double moves Smith falls for like Charlie Brown.
 
2013-08-28 03:49:35 PM

Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?


....yeah, but still.  8.5?
 
2013-08-28 04:02:15 PM

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?



That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points
 
2013-08-28 04:09:22 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points


It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.
 
2013-08-28 04:13:24 PM

SenorBenedict: Wadded Beef: SenorBenedict: ShadowLAnCeR: The stupid dirty Ravens will get whats coming to them when the Ponies trample all over them.

/Niners fan
// Go Ponies!

I'd say how can you cheer for the broncos as a niners fan, but the only times you guys met in the superbowl it was roflstomping, so not much of a rivalry on your side.

Broncos by 18 over Baltimore next Thursday, taking the first step toward playing this February.
/Got tickets to Thursday's game.
//Has Flacco cut Rahim Moore a check yet? At least a thank-you phone call?
///Go Ponies!

If I was your bookie I'd take that bet with a big smile on my face. Frankenhead is going to throw so many pics you'll think Tebow showed up.


Throw so many pics of what?
 
2013-08-28 04:15:53 PM
Wait, Denver is actually picked to win?  That's the lunacy.
 
2013-08-28 04:16:10 PM

UDel_Kitty: I think Goodell just hates Baltimore.


Goodell just hates football.
 
2013-08-28 04:16:32 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Gecko Gingrich: I think the NFL should have turned the troll factor up to 11 and made giant banners of Elvis Dumervil.

I'm a Bronco fan, and this cracked me up. :D


They should have also included a huge banner of the fax machine.
 
2013-08-28 04:23:35 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.


PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.
 
2013-08-28 04:31:40 PM
Wadded Beef:

Throw so many pics of what?

His mangled frankenpenis having sex with a papa johns pizza.
 
2013-08-28 04:33:47 PM

Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.


Agreed. Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is. And the Jets ARE god awful, which is why they are a 3 pt dog at home to friggin' TB.
 
2013-08-28 04:34:05 PM
Deneb81:
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.



Amazing

The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens are sharing a dog house with the Emergency QB Buffalo Bills and the Cap Casualty Oakland Raiders.

I would like to know what the lines where for the first games of previous years champions just to see how much of an outlier this situation is.
 
2013-08-28 04:35:12 PM

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


Remember their last duel? The Ponies were 9 point favorites.

/9.
//9!
 
2013-08-28 04:44:47 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: Deneb81:
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.


Amazing

The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens are sharing a dog house with the Emergency QB Buffalo Bills and the Cap Casualty Oakland Raiders.

I would like to know what the lines where for the first games of previous years champions just to see how much of an outlier this situation is.


The Ravens lost a lot from last year's team. Overwhelmingly, folks seem to feel they lost too much to be legit contenders again. Time will tell, but they are on the road against a conference favorite. The number might be high, but people are obviously willing to put their money on the Ravens not being as good as last year.
 
2013-08-28 04:55:54 PM

Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.


Mostly these spreads mean that Vegas isn't getting enough action on the Ravens, Titans, Raiders etc.  The line is not a prediction.\

/that said, there are football reasons for not betting on these teams
 
2013-08-28 05:07:22 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Deneb81: Ow! That was my feelings!: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


That's a huge spread in the NFL. Huge.
The sort of spread you normally only see when a team like Buffalo is  starting an undrafted emergency backup QB against the Patriots.

If I bet on football I would take the points

It's a huge spread because that is the way people are betting. It actually does makes sense from a 'gambling' viewpoint.

PIT is favored by 7 hosting TEN.
IND is favored by 10 hosting OAK.
NE is favored by 10.5 hosting BUF.
TB is favored by 3 over the host NYJ.

People that bet on the first week of NFL games are not rational.

ONE of those makes sense. Maybe 2. But PIT is not a 7 pt favorite team. And the Jets are god awful.

Mostly these spreads mean that Vegas isn't getting enough action on the Ravens, Titans, Raiders etc.  The line is not a prediction.\

/that said, there are football reasons for not betting on these teams


Vegas wants to set the line so half the people put money on one side of the line and the other half o the other side because they are guaranteed to pay off the winning bets with the amount that the losers lost while keeping the money from the difference in odds (usually a line starts at -110 on both sides so vegas makes 10 dollars for each 100 bet).

Vegas does not like it when 80% of the people are on one side of the line because while they might profit a lot if there is a huge upset, they can also be out a lot of money if the side with 80% of the bets come on top. Vegas has lines for NFL football amazingly accurate for what they want to accomplish.
 
2013-08-28 05:27:04 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.


He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.
 
2013-08-28 05:43:57 PM

SenorBenedict: Wadded Beef:

Throw so many pics of what?

His mangled frankenpenis having sex with a papa johns pizza.


Ah, but wait til you see what happens NEXT!
 
2013-08-28 05:54:31 PM

redmid17: CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.

He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.


You are right of course but I had to go to wikipedia to convince myself of that.
It is a little frightening how those memories have become conflated in my mind.
If we were drunk in a bar you could have taken me for a lot of money on that bet.
 
2013-08-28 06:00:09 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.


due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
 
2013-08-28 06:01:54 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: redmid17: CodeMonkey4Life: INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: It is the NFL promoting the NFL, not the "One and Done" club celebrating its most accomplished member

notsureifserious.jpg

Not :)

Teams win and lose.
Manning is a great player, as far as his playoff record goes what I really remember best is the furious comeback in an AFC championship game where he was so scary the Pats went for it on 4th and 2, deep in their own territory.
As disappointed as I was with the result I still consider that the right call because I was certain the Colts would score no matter where they started from.

He was so scary he made you combine the 2006 AFC CG and the 2009 regular season Colts/Pats game ;)

It was the right call though. If they punt there, the Colts are definitely going to score on the way back. Pats D was gassed and had been getting torched in the 2nd half.

You are right of course but I had to go to wikipedia to convince myself of that.
It is a little frightening how those memories have become conflated in my mind.
If we were drunk in a bar you could have taken me for a lot of money on that bet.


If we were drunk in a bar, I'd be arguing that Marlin Jackson intercepted that 4th and 2  to end the game and send the Colts to the SB.

Sobriety can be overrated.
 
2013-08-28 06:12:27 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.


Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.
 
2013-08-28 06:23:04 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


I would be, their first team offense hasn't looked good at all this preseason. Broncos may win against a field stripped ravens team, and they'll probably pad their record on the rest of the garbage in the afc (3 of those teams being in their own damn division) but once they face a real play off team they'll fold faster than Jeff Tuel facing the patriots.
 
2013-08-28 06:24:06 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets
 
2013-08-28 06:26:48 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.


I'm not a betting guy, but you always have to wonder why Vegas is tempting folks to bet on the Ravens with that big of a spread.
 
2013-08-28 06:26:58 PM
Here's the thing -

The Raven's defense is arguably more athletic and talented than last year. Especially on the line. But it may not be in sync yet.

Denver's offense is arguably better than last year. Except on the line where it's arguably weaker. But with some limited preseason time for Welker and others it may not be in sync yet.

The Raven's O is weaker without a couple playmakers.

The Broncos D is arguably weaker, and without a couple playmakers.

I do get the feeling the Broncos may want it more.
Losing a playoff game - especially as a 9 pt favorite does that. So we'll see. But 8.5 points based on the above? That's crazy talk.
 
2013-08-28 06:28:01 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets


And the Bills.
 
2013-08-28 06:28:50 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets


But nobody is picking the Broncos by 8.5. That is a Vegas number created to spur gambling. I'm a Broncos fan and I think the number is BS, it's a damn gambling number, not a prediction!
 
2013-08-28 06:30:43 PM

Deneb81: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets

And the Bills.


Well the bills are as of right now starting a qb who's last team when 3 and farking 8. And they just lost one of their corner backs. Even with Brady throwing to the waterboy and the one guy on the patriots not convicted of a serious crime they can still burn the buffallo bums.
 
2013-08-28 06:32:59 PM

ladodger34: Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

I'm not a betting guy, but you always have to wonder why Vegas is tempting folks to bet on the Ravens with that big of a spread.


It's not a wonder at all. The number is 8.5 because people keep betting up the Broncos. It is GAMBLERS driving the number, not Vegas or fans or the NFL. Way more people seem to think the Broncos are gonna romp, that is why the number is where it is. Take advantage, if you disagree. I'm guessing Vegas would love some disagreement money on the Ravens, at this point.
 
2013-08-28 06:36:35 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: ladodger34: Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Early season games can be very greasy and no way would I bet DEN/BAL with the line where it is.

due to it being 8.5, i am very tempted to take BAL.  that's FOREVER points.  i've said this for a few days now.  now, denver may win by 13, you never know.  but you don't know dick in the first 2 weeks of the season, arguably 4.  honestly, would a ravens win by 10 shock you?  that's the thing.  the ravens + 8.5, that's ALL DAY ARRADAY, sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Yeah, smart money is now heading in the Ravens direction, don't blame them, but nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

I'm not a betting guy, but you always have to wonder why Vegas is tempting folks to bet on the Ravens with that big of a spread.

It's not a wonder at all. The number is 8.5 because people keep betting up the Broncos. It is GAMBLERS driving the number, not Vegas or fans or the NFL. Way more people seem to think the Broncos are gonna romp, that is why the number is where it is. Take advantage, if you disagree. I'm guessing Vegas would love some disagreement money on the Ravens, at this point.


Actually, let me correct myself. I KNOW Vegas wants money on the Ravens, because 8.5. Vegas is BEGGING people to place money on the Ravens.
 
2013-08-28 06:38:44 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: That is a Vegas number created to spur gambling. I


thanks, i know how lines work.  it is too much for week 1.  the end.

the only logical reason for there to be an 8.5 spread in THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE is, as i've said for a few days now, is if you have a 4-0, 7-2 team atop every other offensive/defensive category taking on a 1-3, 2-6 team whose season is already over.

week 1, this number is just illogical.  two playoff teams, transition on both, and.....gah.  i cannot STFU about how nutbag this line is.
 
2013-08-28 06:42:05 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: That is a Vegas number created to spur gambling. I

thanks, i know how lines work.  it is too much for week 1.  the end.

the only logical reason for there to be an 8.5 spread in THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE is, as i've said for a few days now, is if you have a 4-0, 7-2 team atop every other offensive/defensive category taking on a 1-3, 2-6 team whose season is already over.

week 1, this number is just illogical.  two playoff teams, transition on both, and.....gah.  i cannot STFU about how nutbag this line is.


OK, so...it's a conspiracy? WTF do you think is going on? Vegas stopped wanting to make money?

Yeah, it's a ridiculous line, it happens, geez.
 
2013-08-28 06:44:52 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: OK, so...it's a conspiracy? WTF do you think is going on? Vegas stopped wanting to make money?


no, but if they get slammed with Ravens money vegas will lose more, if in fact they keep it close.  all i'm saying is this is an extremely suspect line for week 1.  week 12, or the post-Spygate Pats year, when they were being installed at like, -12, -14.5, and i think 16 or 17 (?), like NCAA lines, i understand that but that was when they were murdering people left and right.

week 1, illogical.  week 6, week 10, week 15, with empirical data?  ok, i'll buy that.  the end.
 
2013-08-28 06:49:59 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: OK, so...it's a conspiracy? WTF do you think is going on? Vegas stopped wanting to make money?

no, but if they get slammed with Ravens money vegas will lose more, if in fact they keep it close.  all i'm saying is this is an extremely suspect line for week 1.  week 12, or the post-Spygate Pats year, when they were being installed at like, -12, -14.5, and i think 16 or 17 (?), like NCAA lines, i understand that but that was when they were murdering people left and right.

week 1, illogical.  week 6, week 10, week 15, with empirical data?  ok, i'll buy that.  the end.


ok, I think the line is too much, but most folks think the Broncos are contenders and most folks don't think the Ravens are(off season losses). The game is in Denver. 1st game of the season....

//If you feel so strongly, put your house on the under. Prove Vegas wrong.
 
2013-08-28 06:50:38 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: OK, so...it's a conspiracy? WTF do you think is going on? Vegas stopped wanting to make money?

no, but if they get slammed with Ravens money vegas will lose more, if in fact they keep it close.  all i'm saying is this is an extremely suspect line for week 1.  week 12, or the post-Spygate Pats year, when they were being installed at like, -12, -14.5, and i think 16 or 17 (?), like NCAA lines, i understand that but that was when they were murdering people left and right.

week 1, illogical.  week 6, week 10, week 15, with empirical data?  ok, i'll buy that.  the end.

ok, I think the line is too much, but most folks think the Broncos are contenders and most folks don't think the Ravens are(off season losses). The game is in Denver. 1st game of the season....

//If you feel so strongly, put your house on the under Ravens. Prove Vegas wrong.

 
2013-08-28 06:56:52 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: OK, so...it's a conspiracy? WTF do you think is going on? Vegas stopped wanting to make money?

no, but if they get slammed with Ravens money vegas will lose more, if in fact they keep it close.  all i'm saying is this is an extremely suspect line for week 1.  week 12, or the post-Spygate Pats year, when they were being installed at like, -12, -14.5, and i think 16 or 17 (?), like NCAA lines, i understand that but that was when they were murdering people left and right.

week 1, illogical.  week 6, week 10, week 15, with empirical data?  ok, i'll buy that.  the end.

ok, I think the line is too much, but most folks think the Broncos are contenders and most folks don't think the Ravens are(off season losses). The game is in Denver. 1st game of the season....

//If you feel so strongly, put your house on the under. Prove Vegas wrong.


Weeks 1 and 2 are the best time to get in on crazy lines because Vegas (and the world) doesn't know what the hell these teams are going to come out looking like.

8.5 is real nice teaser territory, though, since you're getting either Ravens +14.5 or Broncos -2.5, which puts you in the "Broncos have to win by 3 possessions (basically)" or "Broncos only have to win by a FG at home" category, depending on what you believe.
 
2013-08-28 06:59:16 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: //If you feel so strongly, put your house on the under. Prove Vegas wrong.


CSB:  arizona's super bowl year, we were i think 4.5 or 5.5 HOME dogs to the Eagles.  I had a chunk of change in an account that may or may not still exists *cough*.  i ran a bunch of numbers -- the threads could be found by someone extremely bored -- and I concluded, from memory, that D-Mac had gotten home wins versus younger QBs but aside from not performing well OTR (??), the Eagles hadn't done well against more experienced QBs.  Took the moneyline.  cards were 220?  240?  i don't know.  i just felt there was no way we'd lose, based upon my numbers.    won big motherfarking time.  bigtime.

driving home fromt eh game, i was like, "ok, good news, bad news.  won like a BANDIT.  bad news.  i gotta tell the wife i've been gambling." she was pissed but when she saw the check she got over it.  and i told her i wouldn't bet again.  and that was about 4 years ago.  so there is precedent fro betting the proverbial house.

/winnings:  more than $1500, less than $7,000
 
2013-08-28 07:05:58 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: //If you feel so strongly, put your house on the under. Prove Vegas wrong.

CSB:  arizona's super bowl year, we were i think 4.5 or 5.5 HOME dogs to the Eagles.  I had a chunk of change in an account that may or may not still exists *cough*.  i ran a bunch of numbers -- the threads could be found by someone extremely bored -- and I concluded, from memory, that D-Mac had gotten home wins versus younger QBs but aside from not performing well OTR (??), the Eagles hadn't done well against more experienced QBs.  Took the moneyline.  cards were 220?  240?  i don't know.  i just felt there was no way we'd lose, based upon my numbers.    won big motherfarking time.  bigtime.

driving home fromt eh game, i was like, "ok, good news, bad news.  won like a BANDIT.  bad news.  i gotta tell the wife i've been gambling." she was pissed but when she saw the check she got over it.  and i told her i wouldn't bet again.  and that was about 4 years ago.  so there is precedent fro betting the proverbial house.

/winnings:  more than $1500, less than $7,000


Cool, then you're a gambler and should know to be cautious when Vegas appears to be giving away free money, like Broncos -8.5.
iampierremenard.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-28 07:27:40 PM

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: The question is really whether after a spy is on Rice and Smith is bracketed, can the Ravens actually get someone the ball?

....yeah, but still.  8.5?


Everything positive for Denver in terms of betting is ridiculous.  Want the over on 11 wins?  -170 two weeks ago at the MGM casinos.  Super Bowl? 9:2, 3:1 to win the AFC Title and I believe I saw -260 at Caesar's for them to win the AFC West.  I'm guessing all of their lines are going to be high this year until they can find a middle number.  You gotta lay the wood on anything for them.  Which would be great if we weren't potentially one Peyton Manning blindside hit away from the Brock Osweiler era.
 
2013-08-28 07:35:36 PM
Ravens/Broncos is now 9.5...

Wow.
 
2013-08-28 07:36:06 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Cool, then you're a gambler and should know to be cautious when Vegas appears to be giving away free money, like Broncos -8.5.


I guess i just got served.  or something.


Ken VeryBigLiar: Brock Osweiler


CSB:  i saw "Mamma Mia!" (don't laugh) with the wife and afriend of hers a few years back, afterwards, we went to a Chipotle across the theater.  Brock was there.  Hard to miss a 6'7" athlete.  anyways, i said to my wife, "hey, be cool about it, but, that's ASU's QB over there."  she's like, "cool, don'tyou want his autograph?"  i said, "no, how about he takes us to a freaking bowl game for a change, then I'll slob his knob."

i then told our friend, "hey, that's ASU's QB, if you care."  she then is like, "hey!  HEY!  You!  *flashes ASU fork sign* WHOOO GO DEVILS!  YOU ROCK!" and he's flashing the fork back, with a embarassed look of like, "ok, 45 year old lady, settle down, you're starting to scare me......"
 
2013-08-28 07:36:51 PM

Deneb81: Ravens/Broncos is now 9.5...


and for all my grousing about it, the final score will be Donks 38, Ravens 9.
 
2013-08-28 07:47:10 PM

rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: Cool, then you're a gambler and should know to be cautious when Vegas appears to be giving away free money, like Broncos -8.5.

I guess i just got served.  or something.



Ken VeryBigLiar: Brock Osweiler


CSB:  i saw "Mamma Mia!" (don't laugh) with the wife and afriend of hers a few years back, afterwards, we went to a Chipotle across the theater.  Brock was there.  Hard to miss a 6'7" athlete.  anyways, i said to my wife, "hey, be cool about it, but, that's ASU's QB over there."  she's like, "cool, don'tyou want his autograph?"  i said, "no, how about he takes us to a freaking bowl game for a change, then I'll slob his knob."


i then told our friend, "hey, that's ASU's QB, if you care."  she then is like, "hey!  HEY!  You!  *flashes ASU fork sign* WHOOO GO DEVILS!  YOU ROCK!" and he's flashing the fork back, with a embarassed look of like, "ok, 45 year old lady, settle down, you're starting to scare me......"



Here, *cough*...


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-28 09:01:55 PM
This would never happen in Pittsburgh.

Just last week at the Pirate game they showed Mario Lemieux and Art Rooney III bullshiatting up in a box.

All through the Stanley Cup playoffs they kept showing Brett Keisel, Willie Colon, Neil Walker, etc in the stands.

Because Pittsburgh teams play for the city and that's why they all wear the same city colors.

No excuse for a championship team not opening at home - this just shows what a second rate sports town looks like.
 
2013-08-28 09:14:45 PM
I would like to apologize for that last post.

After reading it I was ashamed of how badly it was written let alone it was 90 minutes after the last posting in this thread.

Again, sorry - need to get my head back in the game and stop these stupid mistakes.

Baltimore sucks.
 
2013-08-28 09:31:30 PM

Deneb81: rickythepenguin: Ow! That was my feelings!: nobody would be surprised by a Broncos win by 17 going away, either.

that's the thing thoguh, anybody winning by 17 can't be termed a surprise.  not in week 1.  and that game could end up 24-21 (advantage ravens) due to first week sloppies and i twouldn't surprise anyone.  8.5 is just stupid for week one when we don't know dick about anybody.

except the jets

And the Bills.


And the Jags
 
2013-08-28 09:54:04 PM

rickythepenguin: Deneb81: Ravens/Broncos is now 9.5...

and for all my grousing about it, the final score will be Donks 38, Ravens 9.


Honestly, it doesn't matter. It was a beating 3 weeks before the playoff game when the teams met.

None of that changes the final score of the game in January. Or Februaruy. Deface a poster, hell, win the game next week. Bottom line is it doesn't change the loss. Deal with it.

It also doesn't change the fact that a 9.5 spread is stupid.
 
2013-08-29 04:01:18 AM

This Looks Fun: With no dog in this fight, I don't think they should have ads for the other team. It seems in poor taste.


Sort of moving into NBA style marketing, forget about your own team and promote playing against the super bowl winners.  

I would loved to have seen Goddel try this with the Skins when JKC was alive. I seriously doubt JKC would have allowed another teams banners hanged on his stadium.
 
2013-08-29 06:25:52 AM

Waldo Pepper: This Looks Fun: With no dog in this fight, I don't think they should have ads for the other team. It seems in poor taste.

Sort of moving into NBA style marketing, forget about your own team and promote playing against the super bowl winners.  

I would loved to have seen Goddel try this with the Skins when JKC was alive. I seriously doubt JKC would have allowed another teams banners hanged on his stadium.


Then you don't get the prime time game. Bottom line is the whole raft of opening day hullabaloo that Denver is getting is because Baltimore won the Super Bowl, got dicked out of hosting, and Denver happened to be on their schedule.
 
2013-08-29 09:06:56 AM

SenorBenedict: rickythepenguin: AdmirableSnackbar: I think it shows how shiatty of a sports town Baltimore is that it can't handle two events on the same day.

i kinda recall discussions between MLB and the NFL when the scheduleing snafu was first revealed, of moving the game from a night start to a day start, which in theory would have permitted the MLB game to proceed, end at say, 3PM, which would give some time for the shared parking lot to empty so the night football game crowd could fill in....

the parking lot is the issue, especially since you're gonna have 65K-70K for the football game when OPACY only holds -- which they won't for reason i said above, 3rd place team hosting last place team -- perhaps 45K, but will draw maybe what, the high 20s?  who wants to go watch two shiatty teams fight for nothing?

Wait two shiatty teams fight for nothing? Don't be ragging on the Mariners @ Astros!


*sigh* Now I has a sad. Hard to be a Mariners fan.

/M's for life.
 
2013-08-29 11:34:57 AM

Deneb81: Waldo Pepper: This Looks Fun: With no dog in this fight, I don't think they should have ads for the other team. It seems in poor taste.

Sort of moving into NBA style marketing, forget about your own team and promote playing against the super bowl winners.  

I would loved to have seen Goddel try this with the Skins when JKC was alive. I seriously doubt JKC would have allowed another teams banners hanged on his stadium.

Then you don't get the prime time game. Bottom line is the whole raft of opening day hullabaloo that Denver is getting is because Baltimore won the Super Bowl, got dicked out of hosting, and Denver happened to be on their schedule.


As a Denverite I see no problem with the banners. It's the NFL promoting the marquee game featuring the two captains of two high-profile teams much like a UFC poster. If there's a problem it's the graphic nightmare they have on the south side of the stadium as they placed the banners with Manning and Flacco facing away from each other (tsk tsk tsk).
 
2013-08-29 01:20:38 PM
Primetime games are great for TV, but suck for the fans in the stands. I'd rather a full season of 1pm Sunday kickoffs, so i dont have to deal with getting home after 1am and then limp to into work the next day.
 
2013-08-29 02:25:44 PM
I don't blame them - I'd be pissed too!
 
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