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(The Hill)   Dennis Kucinich emerges from spending time alone with his insanely hot wife to say something really smart about US military invention in Syria   (thehill.com) divider line 71
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2013-08-28 11:10:06 AM
Actually, he's a regular FOXNews contributor, now.
 
2013-08-28 11:11:04 AM
to same something?
 
2013-08-28 11:12:22 AM
Meet the new boss, say as the old boss.
 
2013-08-28 11:12:43 AM
Hey, we gave bin Laden his start in the old days, why not follow through and help out al Caca?
 
2013-08-28 11:13:20 AM
Step 1: Let the inspectors finish. Will take about a month.
Step 2: During that month, let Congress debate this. Then have them pass a resolution, no backsies.
 
2013-08-28 11:13:53 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days


By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.
 
2013-08-28 11:15:26 AM
Well what do you know.  Absolute power really does corrupt absolutely.

I predict that Kucinich will get the same treatment from the Democrats that the dissenters got from the Republicans pre-Iraq.  The only difference?  At least some of the Democrats were against Iraq.  You will probably be hard pressed not to find a Republican itching to push the button on Syria.

We are truly farked.
 
2013-08-28 11:17:14 AM
Oh, that nut. That crazy, crazy nut. Doesn't he know that all problems can be solved by shooting some people in the face?
 
2013-08-28 11:17:41 AM

AngryDragon: I predict that Kucinich will get the same treatment from the Democrats that the dissenters got from the Republicans pre-Iraq. The only difference? At least some of the Democrats were against Iraq. You will probably be hard pressed not to find a Republican itching to push the button on Syria.


He got gerrymandered out of his district for a more Blanche Lincoln-esque Democrat who's more "$$$willing to play$$$" than he ever was. Did the DNC do anything to stop it? Heavens, no! Kucinich is unelectable! Not like that dreamy John Edwards...
 
2013-08-28 11:17:53 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if Putin's operators encouraged this chemical attack just to give Obama the chance to really fark up.
 
2013-08-28 11:18:12 AM
No mentioning wife of Kuci if no pic of wife of Kuci. Uncool. I almost sprained my clicky finger.
 
2013-08-28 11:18:24 AM

Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.


More lies.  How droll.
 
2013-08-28 11:18:41 AM
What did we invent, and why did we do it in Syria?
 
2013-08-28 11:20:54 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Wouldn't surprise me if Putin's operators encouraged this chemical attack just to give Obama the chance to really fark up.


If Russia can sell ramp up arms to Syria, that is a no-brainer for them.
 
2013-08-28 11:21:06 AM
cdn01.dailycaller.com
What a gold digger may look like.
 
2013-08-28 11:21:17 AM
John Kerry said Monday that the United States would soon be sharing "undeniable" evidence of Assad's involvement.

Shades of Powell + Iraq. Yes?
 
2013-08-28 11:22:50 AM

Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.


Google "Soviet war in Afghanistan".
 
2013-08-28 11:22:58 AM

stuhayes2010: [630x886 from http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Kucinich-e1352 912324488.jpeg image 630x886]
What a gold digger may look like.


Dennis must be standing on a chair in that photo.
 
2013-08-28 11:23:35 AM
What, exactly, is the correct response here? We do nothing and allow Syria to use chemical weapons on its citizens?

We invade and get thousands of poor Americans killed?

We drop bombs and hope they hit the right targets?

Man, I wouldn't want Obama's job right now. He's farked any which way you look at it.
 
2013-08-28 11:24:07 AM

Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.


Nope. Study it out.
Don't be afraid. The truth won't hurt you.
 
2013-08-28 11:24:14 AM
Kucinich is right.

Also, the dumbass comparisons the FOX & Friends morons were making today have no bearing on Syria, Bush sold Iraq based on a pack of lies he knew to be lies.  We KNOW what is happening in Syria. The whole situation a farking powderkeg.

Call me paranoid, because I remember the very real threat of nuclear war in the 80s, but here's one wild-ass scenario:

US attacks Syrian military sites
Syria, unable to strike at U.S. military assets, attacks Israel
Israel bombs the shiat out Damascus, pissing the Russians off
Russia blockades Israel, nobody goes in or out
At this point, the U.S. and Russia, already the highest state of alert, are now prone to fatigue and paranoia, and could trigger a global nuclear exchange


What to do?  Well I don't know, but I hope cooler heads prevail and this shiat blows over, eventually.
 
2013-08-28 11:24:24 AM

AngryDragon: I predict that Kucinich will get the same treatment from the Democrats that the dissenters got from the Republicans pre-Iraq. The only difference? At least some of the Democrats were against Iraq. You will probably be hard pressed not to find a Republican itching to push the button on Syria.


To be perfectly fair, a lot of Democrats have always not been on the same page as Kucinich, for better or worse.
 
2013-08-28 11:24:26 AM

stuhayes2010: [630x886 from http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Kucinich-e1352 912324488.jpeg image 630x886]
What a gold digger may look like.


His wife is rich? That explains why he's with the likes of her.
 
2013-08-28 11:25:04 AM

Mad Scientist: stuhayes2010: [630x886 from http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Kucinich-e1352 912324488.jpeg image 630x886]
What a gold digger may look like.

Dennis must be standing on a chair in that photo.


He just spent the night with his wife at a Holiday Inn Express.
 
2013-08-28 11:25:23 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Wouldn't surprise me if Putin's operators encouraged this chemical attack just to give Obama the chance to really fark up.


Russia has every motivation to keep the Middle East as unstable as possible.  It keeps the price of oil (and presumably other energy commodities) high, which is more money for Russia.

Saudi Arabia doesn't appear to like that plan much.
 
2013-08-28 11:26:21 AM

Joe Peanut: Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.

Google "Soviet war in Afghanistan".


Bin Laden and U.S. both helped the Afghan mujihadeen. That doesn't mean the U.S. "gave bin Laden his start." Bin Laden was independently wealthy and formed al-Q after and independently of the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan against the Soviets.
 
2013-08-28 11:26:39 AM

AngryDragon: You will probably be hard pressed not to find a Republican itching to push the button on Syria.


Well, they're in a tough spot. You see, they desperately want to blow stuff up, but their terrified of agreeing with Obama.
 
2013-08-28 11:27:59 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Oh, that nut. That crazy, crazy nut. Doesn't he know that all problems can be solved by shooting some people in the face?


Puhhhlleeease.... the administration is NOT talking about 'shooting some people in the face'.

They propose lobbing a few expensive smart weapons in the general direction of peoples faces....   big dif
 
2013-08-28 11:29:01 AM
Russian kids grow up playing chess.
American kids grow up ... whatever.

My guess is that Obama didn't play chess.
Putin certainly did.
 
2013-08-28 11:31:13 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: My guess is that Obama didn't play chess.
Putin certainly did.


So, that's why Putin's so terrified of the power of queens?
 
2013-08-28 11:36:17 AM
1. Repeat. It's 2 links down, guys.
2. You know where else we're on al-Qaeda's side? Iran - they hate them motherfarkers something FIERCE.
3:

Witty_Retort: Step 1: Let the inspectors finish. Will take about a month.
Step 2: During that month, let Congress debate this. Then have them pass a resolution, no backsies.


That.
 
2013-08-28 11:42:10 AM

Dr Dreidel: You know where else we're on al-Qaeda's side? Iran - they hate them motherfarkers something FIERCE.


Just for my general edification, which group is AQ with? I thought they were shiates, `cause Saddam hated them, but Iran also hates them.
Maybe Southern Baptist shiates?
 
2013-08-28 11:43:59 AM
Nearly three dozen posts and only one Bigfootblurry pic of the hot wife?

 Fark, I am disapoint
 
2013-08-28 11:50:23 AM

The Fifth Dentist: Nearly three dozen posts and only one Bigfootblurry pic of the hot wife?

 Fark, I am disapoint


I also am disapoint.  Also, I think posts of any hot red-heads would be appropriate in this thread.
 
2013-08-28 11:51:24 AM

wxboy: HotIgneous Intruder: Wouldn't surprise me if Putin's operators encouraged this chemical attack just to give Obama the chance to really fark up.

Russia has every motivation to keep the Middle East as unstable as possible.  It keeps the price of oil (and presumably other energy commodities) high, which is more money for Russia.

Saudi Arabia doesn't appear to like that plan much.


Well, the only real reason they want oil prices to stay high is that is the only real thing propping their economy up right now.  If oil prices go down, they have a lot of issues crop up with their economy, and things get even worse again in Russia.

Seriously though, anyone who has been following their economic situation the past few years should realize they are yet another house of cards that will take another massive blow should oil & energy prices take a tumble.  So they'll end up looking like they did in the late 80's, early 90's.
 
2013-08-28 11:53:20 AM

Jake Havechek: Kucinich is right.

Also, the dumbass comparisons the FOX & Friends morons were making today have no bearing on Syria, Bush sold Iraq based on a pack of lies he knew to be lies.  We KNOW what is happening in Syria. The whole situation a farking powderkeg.

Call me paranoid, because I remember the very real threat of nuclear war in the 80s, but here's one wild-ass scenario:

US attacks Syrian military sites
Syria, unable to strike at U.S. military assets, attacks Israel
Israel bombs the shiat out Damascus, pissing the Russians off
Russia blockades Israel, nobody goes in or out
At this point, the U.S. and Russia, already the highest state of alert, are now prone to fatigue and paranoia, and could trigger a global nuclear exchange


What to do?  Well I don't know, but I hope cooler heads prevail and this shiat blows over, eventually.


I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't have the Navy required to blockade Israel. The US still controls the Mediterranean Sea and our CSG-2, I think, is sitting there.

Now, if Syria were to strike at Israel, Iran might jump in. Who knows, though.
 
2013-08-28 11:53:33 AM
When was the last time Dennis K, said anything smart about foreign policy?

It appears he is now fully buying the Syrian regime's argument that anyone opposing it, and actively fighting against it, is al Qaeda, or an al Qaeda ally. It's so stupid, I don't even know what to say, except that Kucinich should just go back to pleasing his woman, it appears that's all he's really good at.

First, the people fighting in Syria against the regime started off as peaceful protests asking the government to address their grievances, the regime turned its guns on them with the result that various army units revolted against the government and joined an opposition movement that then turned military in nature.

Are the Islamists, and al Qaeda sympathizers among these? Yes, many came over from Iraq, and other places to fight against Assad. He's used them as a means to tar the whole opposition as al Qaeda or Islamist terrorists, but this is not the case. In fact, Turkey and other countries in the region are actively backing non-Islamist/non-al Qaeda sponsored fighters to ensure that once the fighting is done, al Qaeda, or hard core militants don't gain the upper hand.

Kucinich seems to dismiss all the nuance and complexity of the issue, to blurt out crap he has no business talking about. It's a shame people still take him seriously.
 
2013-08-28 11:54:12 AM
Climb down off the ledge, Dennis. At most, we'll blow up a few vacant office buildings just to show that we care, but that'll be it.
 
2013-08-28 12:00:36 PM

dr_blasto: Jake Havechek: Kucinich is right.

Also, the dumbass comparisons the FOX & Friends morons were making today have no bearing on Syria, Bush sold Iraq based on a pack of lies he knew to be lies.  We KNOW what is happening in Syria. The whole situation a farking powderkeg.

Call me paranoid, because I remember the very real threat of nuclear war in the 80s, but here's one wild-ass scenario:

US attacks Syrian military sites
Syria, unable to strike at U.S. military assets, attacks Israel
Israel bombs the shiat out Damascus, pissing the Russians off
Russia blockades Israel, nobody goes in or out
At this point, the U.S. and Russia, already the highest state of alert, are now prone to fatigue and paranoia, and could trigger a global nuclear exchange


What to do?  Well I don't know, but I hope cooler heads prevail and this shiat blows over, eventually.

I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't have the Navy required to blockade Israel. The US still controls the Mediterranean Sea and our CSG-2, I think, is sitting there.

Now, if Syria were to strike at Israel, Iran might jump in. Who knows, though.


Exactly.  The "who knows how the whole thing will pan out" is the worst part.  The Middle East is so farked up now, with so many big players like Russia and China and the USA with lots at stake, a bombing campaign to support the Syrian rebels and average citizens could push things in unpredictable directions.
 
2013-08-28 12:02:42 PM

Shadow writer: He's used them as a means to tar the whole opposition as al Qaeda or Islamist terrorists


Well not really.
But we'd be assisting AQ in Syria in achieving their goals there by hitting Assad's forces.
So there's that.

jjorsett: Climb down off the ledge, Dennis. At most, we'll blow up a few vacant office buildings just to show that we care, but that'll be it.


Putin has Obama in check now, so he'll have to do something in order to appear to save face.
We'll blow up some buildings. Maybe some government offices.
 
2013-08-28 12:04:37 PM
Putin is a wild card.  Former KGB spook, now longs for the days of the USSR, and bans funny pics of him and puts punk rock girls in jail for singing a song.

Never trust a Russian.
 
2013-08-28 12:10:09 PM

Aristocles: Joe Peanut: Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.

Google "Soviet war in Afghanistan".

Bin Laden and U.S. both helped the Afghan mujihadeen. That doesn't mean the U.S. "gave bin Laden his start." Bin Laden was independently wealthy and formed al-Q after and independently of the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan against the Soviets.


OBL was a mujihadeem commander.  He didn't just help finance them.  He was an officer of a military that received weapons and training from the CIA.  Yes, after the war he went on to create al-q, and the mujihadeem that stayed behind became the Taliban who assisted OBL.
 
2013-08-28 12:10:55 PM

Aristocles: HotIgneous Intruder: we gave bin Laden his start in the old days

By "we," I assume you mean radical Islamists. You certainly don't mean the U.S.... because that would be nonsense.


You'll get bites.
 
2013-08-28 12:12:21 PM

ristst: You'll get bites.


Sorry...bites have already begun.
 
2013-08-28 12:14:46 PM

Jake Havechek: Putin is a wild card.  Former KGB spook, now longs for the days of the USSR, and bans funny pics of him and puts punk rock girls in jail for singing a song.

Never trust a Russian.


Putin will have to meet his doom one of these days.
 
2013-08-28 12:15:49 PM

ristst: ristst: You'll get bites.

Sorry...bites have already begun.


So you confess that you're trolling.
Nice.
Somebody want to can this guy?
 
2013-08-28 12:16:57 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Shadow writer: He's used them as a means to tar the whole opposition as al Qaeda or Islamist terrorists

Well not really.
But we'd be assisting AQ in Syria in achieving their goals there by hitting Assad's forces.
So there's that.

jjorsett: Climb down off the ledge, Dennis. At most, we'll blow up a few vacant office buildings just to show that we care, but that'll be it.

Putin has Obama in check now, so he'll have to do something in order to appear to save face.
We'll blow up some buildings. Maybe some government offices.


Using that logic, allowing the fall of Mubarak and the fall of Qaddafi duck also meant we were helping al Qaeda, because some minority within the larger opposition. It's a nonsense argument, and Kucinich probably knows it.
 
2013-08-28 12:33:20 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Jake Havechek: Putin is a wild card.  Former KGB spook, now longs for the days of the USSR, and bans funny pics of him and puts punk rock girls in jail for singing a song.

Never trust a Russian.

Putin will have to meet his doom one of these days.


I thought he would be gone before we hit Syria, I was wrong so I moved the goal post to before we hit Iran.

/crosses fingers
 
2013-08-28 12:40:11 PM

Jake Havechek: We KNOW what is happening in Syria.


Must be nice to go through life with that kind of certainty of the unknown.

Also:  Dennis Kucinich emerges from spending time alone with his insanely hot wife to say something really smart about US military invention in Syria
Exactly how many patents does our military hold or are we planning to create a military in Syria?
 
2013-08-28 12:46:12 PM

Magruda: Jake Havechek: We KNOW what is happening in Syria.

Must be nice to go through life with that kind of certainty of the unknown.


We have a damn lot more info than when Gee Dubya spun tall tales about Iraq which turned out to be 100% bullshiat.
 
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