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2013-08-28 08:10:36 AM
Kang's families gots to get paid!
 
2013-08-28 08:32:11 AM
I guess MSNBC is playing it in full, I think twice, today.

Maybe it will become a lot easier to watch after that...
 
2013-08-28 08:34:08 AM
Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-08-28 08:55:03 AM
And every time you pay, they chime out "Fee and last, fee at last, thank the almighty dollar I got my fee at last!"
 
2013-08-28 08:56:35 AM

nekom: Thanks, Obama.


I blame and/or credit Obama and/or Bush!

/and possibly Clinton, Ford and LBJ
//Nixon don't get a pass either
 
2013-08-28 08:56:42 AM
I guess it's best we just forget about the guy.
 
2013-08-28 08:57:34 AM
Here  it is on Youtube.
 
2013-08-28 08:58:53 AM
Do they get a royalty check for every boulevard named after him?
 
2013-08-28 08:59:01 AM
Hey, 20" rims ain't cheap!
 
2013-08-28 09:01:04 AM
You'd think that a speech made in a public forum would be public domain but strangely no. The people who recorded King speaking, I guess, violate the copyright.

Just waiting for Nancy Reagan to copyright all of Ron's speeches. Make the Repubs pay for Zombie Reagan's appearances.
 
2013-08-28 09:06:05 AM
"...that is the principal tenant upon which copyright laws were created."

Is there a "Bob the Angry Flower" for this one?
 
2013-08-28 09:07:41 AM
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-28 09:08:25 AM
Protip: Don't take the subway to the memorial in Atlanta if you're white. Just.....don't.
 
2013-08-28 09:09:37 AM
Money was raised to build the statue of MLK on the National Monument and they were all ready to go, had raised enough money. Then here comes the family demanding their cut. The family had already been paid over $700,000 thousand since 2003 from the non profit forpermission to use MLK'simage and words. The family now wanted $800 thousand more or they would stop the project. I don't know if they ever got it. Maybe they did somehow and that is why they had to outsource the project to China.... :)
 
GBB
2013-08-28 09:10:19 AM
www.jonco48.com
 
2013-08-28 09:11:55 AM

offacue: Do they get a royalty check for every boulevard named after him?


Yes, they got paid for ever time a street or whatever was named after him. Those were paid to them with our tax dollars.
 
2013-08-28 09:12:03 AM

nekom: Thanks, Obama.

Disney

/get it right
 
2013-08-28 09:12:21 AM
The real tragedy is that rather than people not be judged by the color of their skin, the US has become hyper race sensitive instead, where everybody's words and actions can be parsed and viewed through the 'is this racist' prism.

Black people and white people are often afraid of talking politics or current events because so often they're painted as black vs white

It's all very sad really.
 
2013-08-28 09:12:42 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Hey, 20" rims ain't cheap!


This will be a good thread to add to my list of racists.

/you're not funny and it isn't ironic
//just sad
 
2013-08-28 09:16:37 AM
o.onionstatic.com
 
2013-08-28 09:18:13 AM
at least until it enters the public domain in 2038

The Mouse ain't gonna let that happen.
 
2013-08-28 09:18:51 AM
Why do I keep getting 'Four Oh Three' when trying to put rotten cocksuckers on my ignore list today?
 
2013-08-28 09:19:39 AM

tetsoushima: [850x714 from http://o.onionstatic.com/images/5/5426/original/700.hq.jpg?2506 image 850x714]


And another racist....
 
GBB
2013-08-28 09:20:31 AM

AdrienVeidt: Why do I keep getting 'Four Oh Three' when trying to put rotten cocksuckers on my ignore list today?


cause you can't ignore yourself?
 
2013-08-28 09:21:43 AM
I see we've got some people railing on his family for what's perceived as greed... not gonna touch that one. I was more weirded out that he himself was the one who essentially applied for the copyright, very shortly after delivering the speech. I'm not sure how to feel about that...
 
2013-08-28 09:23:28 AM
8pm eastern, msnbc.

Some context.
 
2013-08-28 09:24:46 AM
Also on msnbc after Obama's speech at 4pm eastern.
 
2013-08-28 09:26:01 AM
Just think of the Mega-Church MLK would have had by now.

/PTL
 
2013-08-28 09:27:42 AM

asynchron: I see we've got some people railing on his family for what's perceived as greed... not gonna touch that one. I was more weirded out that he himself was the one who essentially applied for the copyright, very shortly after delivering the speech. I'm not sure how to feel about that...


He was a pastor involved in the civil rights movement, and he had a family. It's not a lucrative field to go into, and he wanted to leverage his career as a civil rights leader to make sure that his family was provided for after his death. He knew that his life would most likely be cut tragically short, in fact, he mentioned it almost prophetically in his final speech. If you're a poor, black widow living during that time, it's going to be very, very rough on you, and he made sure that his family was supported by his work. I have nothing but respect for that decision.
 
2013-08-28 09:27:44 AM
Meh.  Every so often, there's whiny outrage over MLK's family establishing their legal rights.  This right allows them to, for example, make sure that his likeness doesn't end up being used to sell Coca-Cola.  Or beer.  I think this is good.

And they want money for his words to be used.  You know what?  After decades of this country's commercial media completely farking over black citizens - where'd you get those songs from, Elvis? - I find it hard to care about one black man's family demanding to be paid for the things he created.
 
2013-08-28 09:29:16 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Hey, 20" rims ain't cheap!

This will be a good thread to add to my list of racists.

/you're not funny and it isn't ironic
//just sad


What?
Have a cup of coffee and check what site you're at again...
 
2013-08-28 09:33:53 AM

gonegirl: Meh.  Every so often, there's whiny outrage over MLK's family establishing their legal rights.  This right allows them to, for example, make sure that his likeness doesn't end up being used to sell Coca-Cola.  Or beer.  I think this is good.

And they want money for his words to be used.  You know what?  After decades of this country's commercial media completely farking over black citizens - where'd you get those songs from, Elvis? - I find it hard to care about one black man's family demanding to be paid for the things he created.


On the surface, I agree with this.  However, on the other hand, I think some things are just too important and belong to history.  I think this is one of those things.
 
2013-08-28 09:34:07 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: asynchron: I see we've got some people railing on his family for what's perceived as greed... not gonna touch that one. I was more weirded out that he himself was the one who essentially applied for the copyright, very shortly after delivering the speech. I'm not sure how to feel about that...

He was a pastor involved in the civil rights movement, and he had a family. It's not a lucrative field to go into, and he wanted to leverage his career as a civil rights leader to make sure that his family was provided for after his death. He knew that his life would most likely be cut tragically short, in fact, he mentioned it almost prophetically in his final speech. If you're a poor, black widow living during that time, it's going to be very, very rough on you, and he made sure that his family was supported by his work. I have nothing but respect for that decision.


Life insurance?
 
2013-08-28 09:37:47 AM

Mugato: Kang's families gots to get paid!


Damn, borderline racist comment at position 1 in the thread.  Mark 'er done and done.
 
GBB
2013-08-28 09:38:30 AM

KimNorth: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Hey, 20" rims ain't cheap!

This will be a good thread to add to my list of racists.

/you're not funny and it isn't ironic
//just sad

What?
Have a cup of coffee and check what site you're at again...


"Have a cup of coffee..."??
Coffee is black.... I see what you're doing.
/sarcasm
 
2013-08-28 09:41:46 AM

Mugato: Kang's families gots to get paid!


It's a bit more complicated then that.

King himself is the reason why they copyrighted the entire speech.  Maybe two months after it was given.  And do you know why?

Sony started putting the speech out on records.  And pocketing all the money.
 
2013-08-28 09:42:49 AM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2013-08-28 09:43:03 AM

KimNorth: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Hey, 20" rims ain't cheap!

This will be a good thread to add to my list of racists.
/you're not funny and it isn't ironic
//just sad

What?
Have a cup of coffee and check what site you're at again...


Thinskinnedubersrsbznz.com

/racism is a pack of cards
 
2013-08-28 09:43:18 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: If you're a poor, black widow living during that time, it's going to be very, very rough on you, and he made sure that his family was supported by his work. I have nothing but respect for that decision.


Poor? I bet they had a refrigerator!
 
2013-08-28 09:43:41 AM

MugzyBrown: The real tragedy is that rather than people not be judged by the color of their skin, the US has become hyper race sensitive instead, where everybody's words and actions can be parsed and viewed through the 'is this racist' prism.

Black people and white people are often afraid of talking politics or current events because so often they're painted as black vs white

It's all very sad really.


Statements like this are most often made by people who have no understanding of the current racial situation in America and can't understand why people won't just 'let it go.' There is a massive chunk of the American population that is under represented politically, economically, and socially - but let's all pretend that has nothing to do with their race, and the social uphill battle they've been fighting for years.

People look for racism because, while it may not be rampant and overt in this country the way it was 50 years ago, it is still very much a part of some people's live. I'm sorry if that's hard for you to accept, but just because you don't experience, that's no reason to believe it doesn't exist.
 
2013-08-28 09:43:52 AM
 
2013-08-28 09:44:49 AM
Is this the thread to discuss King's rampant infidelity and the subsequent hypocrisy of his status as a religious leader?

King wouldn't make it past the gossip section of the 24 hr news network morning shows today. It doesn't mean he wasn't a great man - he was - but our ongoing prissy puritanical bs keeps us stuck.

/there's a great segment from NPR out there covering a book about forgiving King's (and others')kind of indiscretions.
 
2013-08-28 09:46:33 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-28 09:47:17 AM
Wow, the first handful of posts went right in the gutter.
//shameful
 
GBB
2013-08-28 09:48:22 AM

INeedAName: MugzyBrown: The real tragedy is that rather than people not be judged by the color of their skin, the US has become hyper race sensitive instead, where everybody's words and actions can be parsed and viewed through the 'is this racist' prism.

Black people and white people are often afraid of talking politics or current events because so often they're painted as black vs white

It's all very sad really.

Statements like this are most often made by people who have no understanding of the current racial situation in America and can't understand why people won't just 'let it go.' There is a massive chunk of the American population that is under represented politically, economically, and socially - but let's all pretend that has nothing to do with their race, and the social uphill battle they've been fighting for years.

People look for racism because, while it may not be rampant and overt in this country the way it was 50 years ago, it is still very much a part of some people's live. I'm sorry if that's hard for you to accept, but just because you don't experience, that's no reason to believe it doesn't exist.


Which is to Mugzy's point.  "there is a massive chunk of the American population that is under-represented politically, economically, and socially".  But, "Black people and white people are often afraid of talking politics or current events because so often they're painted as black vs white ", so they don't talk about it.  Which is how they become under-represented.
 
2013-08-28 09:48:25 AM
Bah. What really pisses me off is those jerks who own the copyright to happy birthday. Protecting MLK's image from predatory marketing and using the funds to support a family is fine. Trying to make royalties off a hundred year old american kid's song is what's truly asinine.
 
2013-08-28 09:50:12 AM
It's on youtube and linked near the bottom of "officialmlkdream50.com"
 
2013-08-28 09:50:45 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: asynchron: I see we've got some people railing on his family for what's perceived as greed... not gonna touch that one. I was more weirded out that he himself was the one who essentially applied for the copyright, very shortly after delivering the speech. I'm not sure how to feel about that...

He was a pastor involved in the civil rights movement, and he had a family. It's not a lucrative field to go into, and he wanted to leverage his career as a civil rights leader to make sure that his family was provided for after his death. He knew that his life would most likely be cut tragically short, in fact, he mentioned it almost prophetically in his final speech. If you're a poor, black widow living during that time, it's going to be very, very rough on you, and he made sure that his family was supported by his work. I have nothing but respect for that decision.


Wow I can see the white guilt dripping off of you across the internet. I guess the public schools did their brainwashing job correctly with you so uh, congratulations to them!
 
2013-08-28 09:52:15 AM

Mugato: Kang's families gots to get paid!


Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
 
2013-08-28 09:53:25 AM

gonegirl: Meh.  Every so often, there's whiny outrage over MLK's family establishing their legal rights.  This right allows them to, for example, make sure that his likeness doesn't end up being used to sell Coca-Cola.  Or beer.  I think this is good.

And they want money for his words to be used.  You know what?  After decades of this country's commercial media completely farking over black citizens - where'd you get those songs from, Elvis? - I find it hard to care about one black man's family demanding to be paid for the things he created.


in a public forum... copyrighted after the event.
 
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