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2013-08-28 08:39:31 AM  
"Immigration reform isn't certain to die if it slips into 2014, some in GOP leadership say. But major progress must be made in 2013 as it would be too difficult for the House to chart a course in 2014, an election year."

Keep delaying immigration reform to appeal to your racist, xenophobic base Republicans. That's a surefire strategy, right up until the election it's not.
 
2013-08-28 08:41:51 AM  
Time Magazine?  At least it's not U.S. Jesus News Jesus and Jesus World Jesus Report Jesus.
 
2013-08-28 08:42:51 AM  
I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.
 
2013-08-28 08:46:29 AM  
Far away, across the field
The tolling of the dog whistles
Have frothed the faithful in a rage
To hear that softly derping magic sound
 
2013-08-28 08:47:37 AM  

Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.


So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!
 
2013-08-28 08:50:06 AM  

Bayou_Boy: Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.


You don't even realize how screwed up our immigration system is. If you come from a country that is thought to be well-represented, your options for an immigrant visa are basically:

a) have family in the US or marry someone in the US
b) be the one best in the world in a professional field

If you come from an underrepresented country, you have the added benefit of a lottery. That's right, a lottery. We let people into our country based on a farking lottery system.
 
2013-08-28 08:50:08 AM  
I suggest a "Farm mechanization and labor improvement" act, but the government would just fark that up. How about a private conservative foundation get established to work on that instead of meddling in big government?
 
2013-08-28 08:52:47 AM  
Biggest enemy of immigration:
funkatopia.com
 
2013-08-28 08:53:04 AM  

wildcardjack: I suggest a "Farm mechanization and labor improvement" act, but the government would just fark that up. How about a private conservative foundation get established to work on that instead of meddling in big government?


The last thing we need is for those jokers to get involved in food production.
 
2013-08-28 08:53:11 AM  
There are fewer than 40 congressional working days until the end of 2013.

Even if you take an entire week for Thanksgiving and the entire last two weeks of the year for Christmas and only work 4 days a week for every other week and don't start counting until the first full week AFTER Labor Day, I still count 56 days. FEWER than 40 working days in FOUR months.

THIS is an outrage.
 
2013-08-28 08:57:09 AM  
I can't comprehend how anyone can fail to grasp the basic mathematics.  What would it cost to deport 14 million people?  If you pack them into cattle cars like the Nazis, and let them die like flies, then I suppose it would be fairly inexpensive (a mere handful of billions).  If you follow the rule of law and deport them humanely, it would cost, at a minimum, several thousand dollars per person, possibly tens of thousands.  And as you push them across the border, they will just stream right back.  I suppose the theory is that the multi-billion dollar "fence" will keep them out.  Good luck with that.

The other basic problem that can't seem to be comprehended is that they're not all "Mexicans" so it isn't a matter of taking them to the Mexican border and cutting them loose.  They would have to be repatriated to their home countries.  And so their home countries also have to deal with hundreds of thousands or millions of cases apiece.  What if they refuse to take the people back?

In short, it would be another War on Drugs, costly, never-ending, eroding civil values and social cohesion, and achieving the opposite of its stated goal.

But blargle hurrdurr I guess.
 
2013-08-28 09:02:21 AM  

BarrRepublican: Far away, across the field
The tolling of the dog whistles
Have frothed the faithful in a rage
To hear that softly derping magic sound


Every bill is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Senators that either come to fought or doink a page on desk of pine
Hanging on in angry desperation is the 'Merican way
The workers are gone, the fight is over, thought you'd something more to pay
 
2013-08-28 09:03:49 AM  

Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.


Well shiat, if moving will solve the problem, why don't you simply move to a country that has an immigration policy you like?
 
2013-08-28 09:09:42 AM  

somedude210: BarrRepublican: Far away, across the field
The tolling of the dog whistles
Have frothed the faithful in a rage
To hear that softly derping magic sound

Every bill is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Senators that either come to fought or doink a page on desk of pine
Hanging on in angry desperation is the 'Merican way
The workers are gone, the fight is over, thought you'd something more to pay


"Home. Home again"
uttered by every Mexi-can
When they go 'home' cold and tired
I'll wonder why my produce costs so much more than it used to

/0_o
 
2013-08-28 09:11:16 AM  

Kibbler: I can't comprehend how anyone can fail to grasp the basic mathematics.  What would it cost to deport 14 million people?  If you pack them into cattle cars like the Nazis, and let them die like flies, then I suppose it would be fairly inexpensive (a mere handful of billions).  If you follow the rule of law and deport them humanely, it would cost, at a minimum, several thousand dollars per person, possibly tens of thousands.  And as you push them across the border, they will just stream right back.  I suppose the theory is that the multi-billion dollar "fence" will keep them out.  Good luck with that.

The other basic problem that can't seem to be comprehended is that they're not all "Mexicans" so it isn't a matter of taking them to the Mexican border and cutting them loose.  They would have to be repatriated to their home countries.  And so their home countries also have to deal with hundreds of thousands or millions of cases apiece.  What if they refuse to take the people back?

In short, it would be another War on Drugs, costly, never-ending, eroding civil values and social cohesion, and achieving the opposite of its stated goal.

But blargle hurrdurr I guess.


and don't forget dropping $40 billion on building a new border fence with Mexico.

Nevermind that nothing prevents people from flying into the US and overstaying their tourist visas, a method extremely popular with eastern europeans & russians. But they are white, so they are obviously not a problem.
 
2013-08-28 09:16:51 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

Well shiat, if moving will solve the problem, why don't you simply move to a country that has an immigration policy you like?


Because America is the Land of Opportunity!*

*Some restrictions apply
 
2013-08-28 09:17:32 AM  
I got bored halfway through reading the headline.

/No coffee yet
//ADHD
 
2013-08-28 09:32:55 AM  
This headline totally syncs up with Wizard of Oz.
 
2013-08-28 09:37:35 AM  

theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!


What problem?
 
2013-08-28 09:46:08 AM  

give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?


Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?
 
2013-08-28 09:49:33 AM  
First off, the GOP in the House have no intention of actually passing an immigration reform bill.  There might be a few who want it, but Cantor and Boehner won't allow for it.

The other fun thing hitting my Facebook feed in recent days is some ridiculous propaganda about how good the illegal immigrants have it.  It hypothetically looks at a person living here legally making $50k / year and his taxes and medical insurance expenses versus an illegal immigrant making $15 / hour and not paying taxes and getting free medical care at emergency rooms.

Now, see if you can spot the glaring error in the above.
 
2013-08-28 09:49:46 AM  

theknuckler_33: There are fewer than 40 congressional working days until the end of 2013.

Even if you take an entire week for Thanksgiving and the entire last two weeks of the year for Christmas and only work 4 days a week for every other week and don't start counting until the first full week AFTER Labor Day, I still count 56 days. FEWER than 40 working days in FOUR months.

THIS is an outrage.


Sorry, can't cut into fund-raising days.

It's amusing that Fox News can spend hours on Obama taking a vacation here or there (and again, the quality of said vacation for a sitting president is a bit different with regards to actual downtime than the rest of us), but doesn't really get into the House schedule of only 9 working days in September.
 
2013-08-28 09:50:12 AM  

theknuckler_33: somedude210: BarrRepublican: Far away, across the field
The tolling of the dog whistles
Have frothed the faithful in a rage
To hear that softly derping magic sound

Every bill is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Senators that either come to fought or doink a page on desk of pine
Hanging on in angry desperation is the 'Merican way
The workers are gone, the fight is over, thought you'd something more to pay

"Home. Home again"
uttered by every Mexi-can
When they go 'home' cold and tired
I'll wonder why my produce costs so much more than it used to

/0_o


I am going to open the "The Wizard of Oz" in a new browser tab, then start reading this thread when the MGM Lion roars.
 
2013-08-28 09:55:34 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Biggest enemy of immigration:
[617x409 from http://funkatopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/original.jpg image 617x409]


C... O-O-L.

What's that spell?
 
2013-08-28 09:59:15 AM  
Don't you feel time gaining on you?  It's like a predator; it's stalking you. Oh,you can try and outrun it with doctors, medicines, new technologies but in the end, time is going to hunt you down... and make the kill.
 
2013-08-28 10:00:05 AM  

theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?


There is nothing in the US immigration system that causes people to come here. It makes it difficult to come here, and that's not a problem.
 
2013-08-28 10:02:14 AM  

HighOnCraic: Don't you feel time gaining on you?  It's like a predator; it's stalking you. Oh,you can try and outrun it with doctors, medicines, new technologies but in the end, time is going to hunt you down... and make the kill.


I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment because they'll never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.
 
2013-08-28 10:03:46 AM  

theknuckler_33: somedude210: BarrRepublican: Far away, across the field
The tolling of the dog whistles
Have frothed the faithful in a rage
To hear that softly derping magic sound

Every bill is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Senators that either come to fought or doink a page on desk of pine
Hanging on in angry desperation is the 'Merican way
The workers are gone, the fight is over, thought you'd something more to pay

"Home. Home again"
uttered by every Mexi-can
When they go 'home' cold and tired
I'll wonder why my produce costs so much more than it used to


And you run and you run to catch up with the son but hes stinking
Mowing around to clean up behind you again
The son is the same in that relative way, but he's older
Poorer of wealth and one day closer to death
 
2013-08-28 10:16:22 AM  

give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?

There is nothing in the US immigration system that causes people to come here. It makes it difficult to come here, and that's not a problem.


"underlying system" referring to the ease with which illegals can get 'undocumented' jobs here in the US... you know, the main reason most come here in the first place. Dealing with that is also part of 'immigration reform'.
 
2013-08-28 10:30:55 AM  

Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.


Imagine the unemployment rate here was around 40%. Even higher outside the cities. In addition, there were huge numbers of drug gangs and subsequent violence (now whose fault would that be?).

Across the border in Canada, there were a lot of jobs available.  Hard work, but they pay far better than anything you can find.

Would you put in an application for a visa, which will go nowhere, and watch your family starve? Literally, starve.

Or would you cross that border,, get a job, and feed your family?

Honestly, which would you choose? You're asking people to let their family starve rather than commit a non-violent misdemeanor that results in no direct loss or harm to anyone.
 
2013-08-28 10:33:51 AM  

theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?

There is nothing in the US immigration system that causes people to come here. It makes it difficult to come here, and that's not a problem.

"underlying system" referring to the ease with which illegals can get 'undocumented' jobs here in the US... you know, the main reason most come here in the first place. Dealing with that is also part of 'immigration reform'.


You mean all those jobs it's already unlawful of them to have according to 8 U.S.C. sec. 1324a?
How do you want to reform it?
 
2013-08-28 10:39:21 AM  

give me doughnuts: HighOnCraic: Don't you feel time gaining on you?  It's like a predator; it's stalking you. Oh,you can try and outrun it with doctors, medicines, new technologies but in the end, time is going to hunt you down... and make the kill.

I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment because they'll never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.


Well played!
 
2013-08-28 10:42:57 AM  

Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.


Wow. Someone has mommy issues.
 
2013-08-28 10:48:28 AM  

give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?

There is nothing in the US immigration system that causes people to come here. It makes it difficult to come here, and that's not a problem.

"underlying system" referring to the ease with which illegals can get 'undocumented' jobs here in the US... you know, the main reason most come here in the first place. Dealing with that is also part of 'immigration reform'.

You mean all those jobs it's already unlawful of them to have according to 8 U.S.C. sec. 1324a?
How do you want to reform it?


I'm not a legislator. The fact that those jobs are unlawful to have doesn't seem to have been much of a deterrent (much like entering the country unlawfully has not been a deterrent either).   Your view seems to be "we already have laws so do nothing" or perhaps "do a better job of enforcing our existing laws" which is nothing more than a cop out. The laws cannot be enforced 'better' to such a degree as to eliminate or at least mostly eliminate the problem. In other words, the laws, as they are, are not good. That is why they need reforming. I don't know what the answer is myself, that's not my job to figure out, but what I do know is that doing nothing is NOT an answer.
 
2013-08-28 10:49:31 AM  

Kibbler: In short, it would be another War on Drugs, costly, never-ending, eroding civil values and social cohesion, and achieving the opposite of its stated goal.


That's not a bug.  That's a feature.
 
2013-08-28 10:52:05 AM  

give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?


The problem is with our current immigration structure. It bleeds money and does a terrible job.
 
2013-08-28 10:54:43 AM  
If you play this thread backwards you can hear Bohner getting a handy at a youngstown truckstop.
 
2013-08-28 10:58:25 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Kibbler: In short, it would be another War on Drugs, costly, never-ending, eroding civil values and social cohesion, and achieving the opposite of its stated goal.

That's not a bug.  That's a feature.


This.

The War on Drugs may not have started out as a mechanism for perpetuating poverty but that's a well known consequence. It's been a well known consequence for more than a decade.

And there have been various efforts to capitalize on this fact by distributing punishment on racial lines (ex. how we previously dealt with crack vs cocaine).
 
2013-08-28 11:26:28 AM  

Bontesla: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

The problem is with our current immigration structure. It bleeds money and does a terrible job.



Then we can lay off 90% of the people who process immigration applications, and save money that wat.
 
2013-08-28 11:46:53 AM  

HighOnCraic: Satanic_Hamster: Biggest enemy of immigration:
[617x409 from http://funkatopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/original.jpg image 617x409]

C... O-O-L.

What's that spell?


It's the greatest band in the farking world, lead by God's representative on Earth Morris Day, the mother farking Time!
 
2013-08-28 12:33:05 PM  

theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

Millions of illegals currently in the country and the underlying system that causes them to come here in the first place?

There is nothing in the US immigration system that causes people to come here. It makes it difficult to come here, and that's not a problem.

"underlying system" referring to the ease with which illegals can get 'undocumented' jobs here in the US... you know, the main reason most come here in the first place. Dealing with that is also part of 'immigration reform'.

You mean all those jobs it's already unlawful of them to have according to 8 U.S.C. sec. 1324a?
How do you want to reform it?

I'm not a legislator. The fact that those jobs are unlawful to have doesn't seem to have been much of a deterrent (much like entering the country unlawfully has not been a deterrent either).   Your view seems to be "we already have laws so do nothing" or perhaps "do a better job of enforcing our existing laws" which is nothing more than a cop out. The laws cannot be enforced 'better' to such a degree as to eliminate or at least mostly eliminate the problem. In other words, the laws, as they are, are not good. That is why they need reforming. I don't know what the answer is myself, that's not my job to figure out, but what I do know is that doing nothing is NOT an answer.


The underlying issue is that Mexico is one big cesspool of crime, poverty, and corruption. Actually, most of South and Central America have the same issues. The people who want a better life and going to where it is better and they don't have to deal with the drug cartels. The problem is there is no incentive for companies to not hire illegals.
 
2013-08-28 01:06:44 PM  

give me doughnuts: Bontesla: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

The problem is with our current immigration structure. It bleeds money and does a terrible job.


Then we can lay off 90% of the people who process immigration applications, and save money that wat.


That doesn't structurally change what's broken.
 
2013-08-28 01:43:46 PM  

Bontesla: give me doughnuts: Bontesla: give me doughnuts: theknuckler_33: Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.

So, ignore the problem. Brilliant!

What problem?

The problem is with our current immigration structure. It bleeds money and does a terrible job.


Then we can lay off 90% of the people who process immigration applications, and save money that wat.

That doesn't structurally change what's broken.



But it saves money.
The remaining employees can just stamp all of the applications as "DENIED" and clear through the back-log in a couople of years.
Tourism and student visas can be handled as they are now.
 
2013-08-28 02:58:33 PM  

dumbobruni: Kibbler: I can't comprehend how anyone can fail to grasp the basic mathematics.  What would it cost to deport 14 million people?  If you pack them into cattle cars like the Nazis, and let them die like flies, then I suppose it would be fairly inexpensive (a mere handful of billions).  If you follow the rule of law and deport them humanely, it would cost, at a minimum, several thousand dollars per person, possibly tens of thousands.  And as you push them across the border, they will just stream right back.  I suppose the theory is that the multi-billion dollar "fence" will keep them out.  Good luck with that.

The other basic problem that can't seem to be comprehended is that they're not all "Mexicans" so it isn't a matter of taking them to the Mexican border and cutting them loose.  They would have to be repatriated to their home countries.  And so their home countries also have to deal with hundreds of thousands or millions of cases apiece.  What if they refuse to take the people back?

In short, it would be another War on Drugs, costly, never-ending, eroding civil values and social cohesion, and achieving the opposite of its stated goal.

But blargle hurrdurr I guess.

and don't forget dropping $40 billion on building a new border fence with Mexico.


I'm not sure, but that may be what I meant by "the multi-billion dolar 'fence'".
 
2013-08-28 03:52:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: HighOnCraic: Satanic_Hamster: Biggest enemy of immigration:
[617x409 from http://funkatopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/original.jpg image 617x409]

C... O-O-L.

What's that spell?

It's the greatest band in the farking world, lead by God's representative on Earth Morris Day, the mother farking Time!


Band?
Yes?
Anybody hot?
No.
You know why?
Why?
'Cause we're cool.
Cool.
 
2013-08-28 05:07:44 PM  

Bayou_Boy: I love all the "reunite families" signs.   If its all about reuniting families, then they can return to their country of origin and live with their families.
Otherwise, there is a perfectly legitimate and legal process to live in our country.  In fact, every country has a process in place for immigration.  In fact, most countries have far more difficult processes than we do.


Yes, because the American kids of illegal immigrants should return to their parents' home countries. Brilliant! And it has the added bonus of fewer brown people in white America!
 
2013-08-28 08:46:20 PM  
Speaking as someone whose culture successfully bleached the population white over a fifty-year period, expecting the minorities that we couldn't deport to die: It doesn't farking work.
 
2013-08-28 10:15:41 PM  

TalenLee: Speaking as someone whose culture successfully bleached the population white over a fifty-year period, expecting the minorities that we couldn't deport to die: It doesn't farking work.


Yes, but complaining and stomping feet and yelling bumper sticker slogans is much easier than dealing with a complex issue.
 
2013-08-29 01:27:14 AM  

Nadie_AZ: TalenLee: Speaking as someone whose culture successfully bleached the population white over a fifty-year period, expecting the minorities that we couldn't deport to die: It doesn't farking work.

Yes, but complaining and stomping feet and yelling bumper sticker slogans is much easier than dealing with a complex issue.


Well, let's see, our stubborn clinging to racism led to such things as a massive crack in the Treaties of Versailles (don't get me wrong, America wanted it too, but we were the ones willing to SAY we were racist about it), which in turn induced Japan to blow the shiat out of us; a slow-release genocide in the form of the stolen generation; our being humiliated publically by a single nerdy journalist; and hampered our trade relations with Indonesia, China and Japan for the latter half of the 20th Century.
 
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