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2013-08-28 08:06:19 AM
He did say he wanted to be like Jeter. Now he gets the chance to miss most of a season to prove it.
 
2013-08-28 08:07:58 AM
Aaaaand subby got me dnrtfaing. +1, bastard.
 
2013-08-28 09:23:23 AM
Nice work subby, that was well done.  And this most likely sets up a future "This is not a repeat" headline for Harvey.
 
2013-08-28 09:24:25 AM

Gulper Eel: Aaaaand subby got me dnrtfaing. +1, bastard.


Nope. Subby is docked his +1 due to inappropriate use of the followup tag to carry out his deceit.
 
2013-08-28 11:02:45 AM
I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.
 
2013-08-28 11:05:04 AM
i think TJ himself could get a spot in their rotation at this point
 
2013-08-28 11:09:23 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: i think TJ himself could get a spot in their rotation at this point


The Mets issue is not starting pitching.

/Please ignore the DiceK on the pitchers mound.
 
2013-08-28 11:31:44 AM

Gunny Highway: I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.


The Wilpons, despite what many Mets fans think, aren't nefarious supervillains plotting the destruction of the team.  They've ponied up for expensive payrolls in the past, and I think they'll do it again.  I do think Harvey's injury means they slow down, which is actually a good thing.  It's not the best free agent class out there, and trying to fill every hole with it (and with a trade for Elvis Andrus' hilariously expensive contract) at once would be a mistake.

Plus, it's worth seeing if Wilmer Flores could play 2b.  And 2012 Ruben Tejada, at age 22, was a fine SS.  You don't need an allstar at every position.

Of course, the Mets have Tejada in AAA and Flores at 3b because crickets.
 
2013-08-28 12:02:45 PM

Gunny Highway: I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.


As long as there is someone worth overpaying for.  I didn't mind Sandy laying low this past offseason and not giving any of last year's free agents a huge deal.  Even this upcoming offseason I'm not so thrilled with the guys that are available.

Do you really want to unload the bank for Choo or Ellsbury?  Are those guys going to change anything?  Obviously if they can sign them for a reasonable deal I'm good with it because they are good players, but I don't want either of those guys to be the reason they can't spend money in the future.
 
2013-08-28 02:54:54 PM

Dafatone: Gunny Highway: I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.

The Wilpons, despite what many Mets fans think, aren't nefarious supervillains plotting the destruction of the team.  They've ponied up for expensive payrolls in the past, and I think they'll do it again.  I do think Harvey's injury means they slow down, which is actually a good thing.  It's not the best free agent class out there, and trying to fill every hole with it (and with a trade for Elvis Andrus' hilariously expensive contract) at once would be a mistake.

Plus, it's worth seeing if Wilmer Flores could play 2b.  And 2012 Ruben Tejada, at age 22, was a fine SS.  You don't need an allstar at every position.

Of course, the Mets have Tejada in AAA and Flores at 3b because crickets.


Flores at 3b because Wright is injured and Murphy is still decent 2b. Tejada at AAA because he  was hitting worse than most of the pitching staff.
 
2013-08-28 04:05:14 PM

mrjared: Dafatone: Gunny Highway: I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.

The Wilpons, despite what many Mets fans think, aren't nefarious supervillains plotting the destruction of the team.  They've ponied up for expensive payrolls in the past, and I think they'll do it again.  I do think Harvey's injury means they slow down, which is actually a good thing.  It's not the best free agent class out there, and trying to fill every hole with it (and with a trade for Elvis Andrus' hilariously expensive contract) at once would be a mistake.

Plus, it's worth seeing if Wilmer Flores could play 2b.  And 2012 Ruben Tejada, at age 22, was a fine SS.  You don't need an allstar at every position.

Of course, the Mets have Tejada in AAA and Flores at 3b because crickets.

Flores at 3b because Wright is injured and Murphy is still decent 2b. Tejada at AAA because he  was hitting worse than most of the pitching staff.


Murphy can play 2b, and we need to see what Flores does at 2b.  Certainly his future isn't at third with Wright there.

Tejada was good last year, and super-crazy-terrible for 50 games this year.  He's still very young, and Omar Quintanilla is known to be awful and won't be getting any better, so what do the Mets have to lose bringing Tejada up?

/And Quintanilla really is that bad.  He has zero range.  I don't care that he makes a flashy play once in a while.
 
2013-08-28 06:14:31 PM

Dafatone: mrjared: Dafatone: Gunny Highway: I realize this is a huge blow for the Mets (Harvey not subby's trick) but does this change the "We will be competitive in 2014" shiat Sandy and his boys have been selling?  Harvey, as good as he is, only plays every fifth day.  I really hope those jokers dont use Harvey's injury as an excuse because the fact that they dont have a SS, 2B, RF, and LF is reason this team will be bad again next year.  Spend some farking money.  They are going to have to overpay for free agents now, they need to come to grips with that.

The Wilpons, despite what many Mets fans think, aren't nefarious supervillains plotting the destruction of the team.  They've ponied up for expensive payrolls in the past, and I think they'll do it again.  I do think Harvey's injury means they slow down, which is actually a good thing.  It's not the best free agent class out there, and trying to fill every hole with it (and with a trade for Elvis Andrus' hilariously expensive contract) at once would be a mistake.

Plus, it's worth seeing if Wilmer Flores could play 2b.  And 2012 Ruben Tejada, at age 22, was a fine SS.  You don't need an allstar at every position.

Of course, the Mets have Tejada in AAA and Flores at 3b because crickets.

Flores at 3b because Wright is injured and Murphy is still decent 2b. Tejada at AAA because he  was hitting worse than most of the pitching staff.

Murphy can play 2b, and we need to see what Flores does at 2b.  Certainly his future isn't at third with Wright there.

Tejada was good last year, and super-crazy-terrible for 50 games this year.  He's still very young, and Omar Quintanilla is known to be awful and won't be getting any better, so what do the Mets have to lose bringing Tejada up?

/And Quintanilla really is that bad.  He has zero range.  I don't care that he makes a flashy play once in a while.


It's not like Tejada is exactly playing his way back up...he's batting .286 with a .691 OPS. In AAA. In the PCL. And he has 8 errors.
 
2013-08-28 06:16:03 PM

Dafatone: Tejada was good last year, and super-crazy-terrible for 50 games this year.  He's still very young, and Omar Quintanilla is known to be awful and won't be getting any better, so what do the Mets have to lose bringing Tejada up?


A year of club control. Tejada entered the year with a little over 2 years of service time. I think if they keep him down the rest of the year, his first year of arbitration gets pushed back (or he becomes a Super 2 guy, which means they have to pay him more but still get the extra year), which pushes back his free agency. That would be my immediate guess. He'll have 2014 to prove himself. If he's as good as advertised, you'll be happy when they have another year before he goes to free agency.
 
2013-08-28 07:36:45 PM
mrjared: It's not like Tejada is exactly playing his way back up...he's batting .286 with a .691 OPS. In AAA. In the PCL. And he has 8 errors.

True, but he didn't hit at all when he first went down, so that .286 and .691 mean he's been hitting more lately.  And errors are a problem, but I trust him more than Quintanilla's complete lack of range.

Basically, there's no reason not to have him up and seeing if he can be part of the future.  Except for delaying his arbitration/FA clock, but that's pretty presumptuous if currently, the team doesn't see him as being around down the road.
 
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