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(Gawker)   US intel agents intercepted phone calls FALSE FLAG from the Syrian Ministry of Defense FALSE FLAG asking their chemical weapons unit who in the fark told them FALSE FLAG to launch a chemical attack on a suburb full of civilians   (gawker.com) divider line 549
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2013-08-28 10:34:29 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Considering I didn't vote for either of those guys. I'm so heavily invested in a political party that I cheer for death and destruction when it's my team on the helm.


Yeah, sure you didn't vote for Bush twice.
 
2013-08-28 10:34:37 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Infernalist: I'll ask again.  How many soldiers died in Libya?  Can you answer that?

That's how you measure success??


Answer the question.
 
2013-08-28 10:35:13 AM

Tat'dGreaser: IdBeCrazyIf: And once things are settled down, we'll help them rebuild. We're doing the same thing in Libya. We blew up the asshole who was causing shiat, took a step back and said "Hey, we're here when you want us"

Look up, Libya was no success


Sure it was.
 
2013-08-28 10:35:50 AM
Casualties of the Libyan civil war

Zero Dead U.S. soldiers
 
2013-08-28 10:36:18 AM

Infernalist: f you people are more concerned with trying to equate Libya with Iraq, then you show yourself for what you are: Partisan hacks mostly concerned with trying to paint Obama with the same brush used on Bush and 'that' is why you are mocked, scorned and ignored.


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/Butthurt Obama shill is butthurt
 
2013-08-28 10:36:41 AM

I_C_Weener: Tat'dGreaser: I_C_Weener: Everyone loves chocolate.

They don't even like naked women over there

They would if they were covered in melted chocolate.


I think we all could use a break from this heavy handed discussion to look on some of the more important things in life

www.freshfood.net.au
 
2013-08-28 10:36:47 AM

neversubmit: Casualties of the Libyan civil war

Zero Dead U.S. soldiers


Butbutbut Obama was just as bad as Bush! How can this be?!
 
2013-08-28 10:36:55 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, sure you didn't vote for Bush twice.


Nope. I had never voted before until last election

Infernalist: Answer the question.


Why? So you can take some tiny little point and act like that's your victory? F*cking hell, you are a hypocrite
 
2013-08-28 10:37:24 AM

BullBearMS: Infernalist: f you people are more concerned with trying to equate Libya with Iraq, then you show yourself for what you are: Partisan hacks mostly concerned with trying to paint Obama with the same brush used on Bush and 'that' is why you are mocked, scorned and ignored.

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/Butthurt Obama shill is butthurt


Is what people say when they've lost the argument on merit.
 
2013-08-28 10:37:28 AM

DubtodaIll: cameroncrazy1984: DubtodaIll: cameroncrazy1984: DubtodaIll: And yes, after a decrease in taxes, when taxes go back up, that's called a tax increase.  If they're able to make it "temporarily" go down, then they can make it go down whenever they're able to put it on paper and sign it.

Ah, so you believe that when a product goes on sale, once the sale ends, they increase the price of that product. Because you're a moron.

Is that all you've got to say "You're stupid"?  Just like a Dookie, thinking you're right.  You seem to be OK with the government running itself like a retail store though.

I love how after maybe 30 comments on this topic you finally admitted that it was due to the tax holiday expiring. Do you yell at the store clerk when he charges you full price on an item that went off sale yesterday? A tax holiday has a sunset. Allowing that sunset to occur isn't "raising taxes" anymore than charging the regular price for a movie ticket at night is raising the rates.

I'd rather see tax funerals than holidays.



Why are other people able to succeed despite taxes, but not Republicans?  Either the system is rigged against the middle class and the wealthy elite have advantages the rest of us don't have REGARDLESS of tax breaks, or the rank and file GOP anti-government echo stations are just incapable of doing what everyone at the top has figured out how to do.

Which is it?  Is the system wide open for anyone regardless of taxes and regulations, or are wealthy elites controlling everything and tricking you into thinking what's good for them is good for you?
 
2013-08-28 10:37:31 AM

lordjupiter: DubtodaIll: cameroncrazy1984: DubtodaIll: Right, and I was told by my President that none of them would go up.  It's not like I'm surprised, but I don't see why you're trying to convince me the President is a man of his word when even his rhetoric turns out to be bull.

A) Your FICA tax didn't go up and B) He never said they wouldn't go up if you made more money, you dumbass.

I'm not making more money...I'm taking home less.

So stop whining, bootsrap yourself up, and get a better job.  Why do you expect the government to fix the economy and do everything FOR you?

/GOP medicine...why don't they take it?


I didn't say I'm struggling, I said I'm taking home less, and that's not my fault. I'm performing the same kind of work and not being able to use as much of the value I create.  Also the services I'm paying the government for have not improved.  So I'm paying more for the same, and usually worse, service.  Also, prices have been outpacing wages.  Why are you OK with that?
 
2013-08-28 10:37:38 AM

liam76: vygramul: People only release weapons when they have made a decision to use them, and only long enough to use them.

People don't keep weapons in known or suspected stockpiles if they want to be able to use them after a greater power bombs them.


They also don't hand them out to lower-level field commanders who could be bribed by the Mossad to maybe lob one in the opposite direction.

vygramul: The U.S. isn't a dictatorship and has a strong civil-military relationship. Note that I said tyrannies exert more control

The Us has a failry robust system in place to make sure our dangerous pwespons are only used at the right time, yet we still make mistakes.


Yes, but our controls are not, nor do not have to be, as strict. Our president is not scared of our military. Tyrannies tend to be. That's why their militaries tend not to practice much, lest they be effective enough to take power, have watchers, like the Republican Guard, who also have watchers, like the Special Republican Guard... people who do that don't just hand out their regime-ending weapons to lower-level field commanders to use on their own volition.

I have never worked in Syria, but I have worked in Egypt and knwo govt control over things like explosives and raduioactive sources wasn't nearly as tight as it was in the US. Devoting time and energy to safeguarfds liek that is a hallmark of first world countries. It is very easy for me to see someon farking up with what warhead they are using in Syria. Now I am nto saying I know that is what happened, just that it is entirely possible.

There's a difference between losing something and giving a lower-level field commander authority.

(And Egypt has a lot of social classes involved in their militaries. A colleague did a study of why F-16s underperform so much in their hands.)
 
2013-08-28 10:37:50 AM

Infernalist: Look up, Libya was no success

Sure it was.


Arming Al Qaeda and giving them a base of operations is a success?
 
2013-08-28 10:38:22 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Nope. I had never voted before until last election


Wait, so are you saying that sometimes people say things about others in this thread that are not true, and may be putting words into their mouths? Huh. Something to think about.
 
2013-08-28 10:39:31 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Look up, Libya was no success


The less we interfere with trying to make people into something they are not, the less likely a chance they'll want to kill us.

There may be camps setup, but make no mistake the Libyans don't want them there and are actively working with us to try and root them out as they continue to build a coalition government. Like I said, after the consulate attack they rounded up a posse and stormed the compound of the assholes who blew up the building.
 
2013-08-28 10:39:42 AM

Tat'dGreaser: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, sure you didn't vote for Bush twice.

Nope. I had never voted before until last election

Infernalist: Answer the question.

Why? So you can take some tiny little point and act like that's your victory? F*cking hell, you are a hypocrite


No need to get mad, bro.  Just answer the question and we can move on.
 
2013-08-28 10:40:51 AM

DubtodaIll: lordjupiter: DubtodaIll: cameroncrazy1984: DubtodaIll: Right, and I was told by my President that none of them would go up.  It's not like I'm surprised, but I don't see why you're trying to convince me the President is a man of his word when even his rhetoric turns out to be bull.

A) Your FICA tax didn't go up and B) He never said they wouldn't go up if you made more money, you dumbass.

I'm not making more money...I'm taking home less.

So stop whining, bootsrap yourself up, and get a better job.  Why do you expect the government to fix the economy and do everything FOR you?

/GOP medicine...why don't they take it?

I didn't say I'm struggling, I said I'm taking home less, and that's not my fault. I'm performing the same kind of work and not being able to use as much of the value I create.  Also the services I'm paying the government for have not improved.  So I'm paying more for the same, and usually worse, service.  Also, prices have been outpacing wages.  Why are you OK with that?


Why are you lying?
 
2013-08-28 10:42:12 AM
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2013-08-28 10:42:44 AM

BullBearMS: Infernalist: Look up, Libya was no success

Sure it was.

Arming Al Qaeda and giving them a base of operations is a success?


We're not God and we can't control the actions of every person in Africa.  We can simply do the right thing, which we did, and deal with all consequences as they arise.

But, Libya was not only a success, but it was the singularly most successful use of our military in recent history.  No deaths, no great loss of treasure, a complete strategic victory resulting in a friendly government and a new ally in the region.
 
2013-08-28 10:42:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: neversubmit: Casualties of the Libyan civil war

Zero Dead U.S. soldiers

Butbutbut Obama was just as bad as Bush! How can this be?!


Another easy question, He (Mr. Obama) is not as bad as Mr. Bush
 
2013-08-28 10:43:11 AM

Tat'dGreaser: cameroncrazy1984: No, it's not hard to understand that you're a crazy person.

Because I don't want this country to get involved in more conflicts that we have no place getting involved in?

I lost two good friends over one. I want to keep it at that


I believe for the past two years the US did not want to get involved, but wanted to stay out of it while we clear up our own domestic issues. My question is what does one do when you see innocent people getting murdered by a regime for NO reason? Do we sit back and watch this brutal regime kill their own people by using chemical weapons?

I would prefer the UN to get more involved but it seems as though they're becoming powerless.
 
2013-08-28 10:44:09 AM

neversubmit: cameroncrazy1984: neversubmit: Casualties of the Libyan civil war

Zero Dead U.S. soldiers

Butbutbut Obama was just as bad as Bush! How can this be?!

Another easy question, He (Mr. Obama) is not as bad as Mr. Bush


My rolling chair would have made a better President than Bush did.  A chair can't get us into a quagmire of an occupation resulting in thousands of dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians.
 
2013-08-28 10:45:17 AM
Well, it was an interesting thread, but it looks like the discussion has turned from Syria to the usual party cheer leading.


/Go Team!
 
2013-08-28 10:45:17 AM
I've been saying this all along. Assad had nothing to gain from a chemical attack, but lower-level commanders who are sick of getting sniped at sure did. Although I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like, uh, General Ripper exceeded his authority.
 
2013-08-28 10:45:57 AM

lordjupiter: DubtodaIll: lordjupiter: DubtodaIll: cameroncrazy1984: DubtodaIll: Right, and I was told by my President that none of them would go up.  It's not like I'm surprised, but I don't see why you're trying to convince me the President is a man of his word when even his rhetoric turns out to be bull.

A) Your FICA tax didn't go up and B) He never said they wouldn't go up if you made more money, you dumbass.

I'm not making more money...I'm taking home less.

So stop whining, bootsrap yourself up, and get a better job.  Why do you expect the government to fix the economy and do everything FOR you?

/GOP medicine...why don't they take it?

I didn't say I'm struggling, I said I'm taking home less, and that's not my fault. I'm performing the same kind of work and not being able to use as much of the value I create.  Also the services I'm paying the government for have not improved.  So I'm paying more for the same, and usually worse, service.  Also, prices have been outpacing wages.  Why are you OK with that?

Why are you lying?


I'm not, when did you stop beating your wife?
 
2013-08-28 10:46:04 AM

Infernalist: As for spending billions....Do you honestly think that this President is going to do to Syria what the GOP did to Iraq?


I don't know that he has a choice. The only player not interested in ethnically cleansing all the losers once this is over is the Kurds, and they have no interest in running the non-Kurdish areas of Syria (i.e. most of it).

But there's going to be a reckoning, it's just a matter of who is going to be exterminated for it.
 
2013-08-28 10:46:11 AM
If that intercept is true, that does point to the fact that the leadership of Syria had no idea what was happening, and that this action is not a valid reason to enter the conflict.

Not sure what the Obama administration is trying to do here.

It also could be the Syrian government trying to figure out WTF is happening. Like "yo, just making sure that our sh*t is still there."
 
2013-08-28 10:46:33 AM

Infernalist: Look up, Libya was no success

Sure it was.


Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links
Handing over a nation to the guys we are fighting a "global war on terror" against is a success?
 
2013-08-28 10:46:42 AM

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Infernalist: f you people are more concerned with trying to equate Libya with Iraq, then you show yourself for what you are: Partisan hacks mostly concerned with trying to paint Obama with the same brush used on Bush and 'that' is why you are mocked, scorned and ignored.

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/Butthurt Obama shill is butthurt

Is what people say when they've lost the argument on merit.

Speaking of butthurt Obama shills.

Perhaps you can explain why Obama's lying us into a war for oil in Libya that resulted in giving a huge weapons cache to Al Qaeda as well as giving them a base of operations is a great success.


It's complicated. It's going to happen no matter who is in office, you can get on board or get ran over.
 
2013-08-28 10:47:01 AM

cowsspinach: I would prefer the UN to get more involved but it seems as though they're becoming powerless.


In the words of President Bush, albeit paraphrased, "If the UN fails to act, it risks becoming irrelevant."  Then we invaded Iraq.  Bush was right though.  The UN is irrelevant because it cannot act to prevent or help in these situations.  That is what the entire Cold War was about....the US/USSR sniping at each other while preventing the UN from acting.

Then the UN went one further and added countries like Syria to its Human Rights Council
 
2013-08-28 10:48:06 AM

This text is now purple: Infernalist: As for spending billions....Do you honestly think that this President is going to do to Syria what the GOP did to Iraq?

I don't know that he has a choice. The only player not interested in ethnically cleansing all the losers once this is over is the Kurds, and they have no interest in running the non-Kurdish areas of Syria (i.e. most of it).

But there's going to be a reckoning, it's just a matter of who is going to be exterminated for it.


Oh, he has a choice.  He knows plain and simple that to get involved in Syria, to occupy the country would be to cede control of the government to the GOP for the next three election cycles and he's not insane.

I can't see any situation where he'd put military forces on the ground in Syria.  Not one.  It would be political suicide and he knows it.
 
2013-08-28 10:48:46 AM

Tat'dGreaser: IdBeCrazyIf: And once things are settled down, we'll help them rebuild. We're doing the same thing in Libya. We blew up the asshole who was causing shiat, took a step back and said "Hey, we're here when you want us"

Look up, Libya was no success


We accomplished precisely what we set out to do: get Gaddhafi killed for all the crap he's pulled over the years.
 
2013-08-28 10:49:02 AM

BullBearMS: Handing over a nation to the guys we are fighting a "global war on terror" against is a success?


Surely there must be some reason these people want us dead......maybe if we addressed that concern this stupid global war on terror can be put down like a rabid dog
 
2013-08-28 10:49:40 AM

BullBearMS: Infernalist: Look up, Libya was no success

Sure it was.

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links
Handing over a nation to the guys we are fighting a "global war on terror" against is a success?


Like I said before, we can't control the actions of every person in Africa.  We can simply do the right thing and deal with the consequences as they arise.

The Libyan conflict was an amazing success and I personally like the fact that it drove a stake through the heart of the old adage that Democrats don't do war well.
 
2013-08-28 10:50:53 AM

Infernalist: This text is now purple: Infernalist: As for spending billions....Do you honestly think that this President is going to do to Syria what the GOP did to Iraq?

I don't know that he has a choice. The only player not interested in ethnically cleansing all the losers once this is over is the Kurds, and they have no interest in running the non-Kurdish areas of Syria (i.e. most of it).

But there's going to be a reckoning, it's just a matter of who is going to be exterminated for it.

Oh, he has a choice.  He knows plain and simple that to get involved in Syria, to occupy the country would be to cede control of the government to the GOP for the next three election cycles and he's not insane.

I can't see any situation where he'd put military forces on the ground in Syria.  Not one.  It would be political suicide and he knows it.


I can't help but think that Republicans who are arguing this will be a land war (like they said Libya would be) are just hoping that the assertion will have the same effect that an actual land-war in Iraq had in 2006.
 
2013-08-28 10:50:57 AM
His whole stupid argument begs the question that the Nation as a whole was handed over to and is controlled by Al Qaeda. It's ridiculous. Don't engage him as if his premise were sound.
 
2013-08-28 10:51:01 AM

cowsspinach: I believe for the past two years the US did not want to get involved, but wanted to stay out of it while we clear up our own domestic issues. My question is what does one do when you see innocent people getting murdered by a regime for NO reason? Do we sit back and watch this brutal regime kill their own people by using chemical weapons?

I would prefer the UN to get more involved but it seems as though they're becoming powerless.


Yet we've done nothing for countries like Rwanda. Besides, we are the UN.

We can't afford to get involved in every single conflict in this world.
 
2013-08-28 10:51:39 AM

Purdue_Pete: So, as I have said in since being a college kid during the Clinton years... why do we want any part of the Middle East? It's a cluster fudge of insanity. Why don't we just buy our oil and wish them good luck? Either they will work it out eventually or finally blow up the whole damn place, correct?


Because they can cut that oil off if they want to.   Just like they did in the 1970s.

In fact, entire wars have started because of oil embargoes.
 
2013-08-28 10:52:26 AM
I'm tired of war. I just don't care anymore.
They can all go blow themselves off the face of the Earth.
Just keep me out of it and don't make it more than a 10 second spot on the news.
 
2013-08-28 10:52:49 AM

vygramul: Infernalist: This text is now purple: Infernalist: As for spending billions....Do you honestly think that this President is going to do to Syria what the GOP did to Iraq?

I don't know that he has a choice. The only player not interested in ethnically cleansing all the losers once this is over is the Kurds, and they have no interest in running the non-Kurdish areas of Syria (i.e. most of it).

But there's going to be a reckoning, it's just a matter of who is going to be exterminated for it.

Oh, he has a choice.  He knows plain and simple that to get involved in Syria, to occupy the country would be to cede control of the government to the GOP for the next three election cycles and he's not insane.

I can't see any situation where he'd put military forces on the ground in Syria.  Not one.  It would be political suicide and he knows it.

I can't help but think that Republicans who are arguing this will be a land war (like they said Libya would be) are just hoping that the assertion will have the same effect that an actual land-war in Iraq had in 2006.


If Obama was a deaf-mute, that might be a concern, but the man only has to open his mouth and speak and that assertion gets destroyed.  "Despite the assertions of my colleagues on the right, Syria is not Iraq and I am not George W Bush.  There will no occupation of Syria under my watch."
 
2013-08-28 10:53:25 AM

Infernalist: neversubmit: cameroncrazy1984: neversubmit: Casualties of the Libyan civil war

Zero Dead U.S. soldiers

Butbutbut Obama was just as bad as Bush! How can this be?!

Another easy question, He (Mr. Obama) is not as bad as Mr. Bush

My rolling chair would have made a better President than Bush did.  A chair can't get us into a quagmire of an occupation resulting in thousands of dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead civilians.


Bill Clinton wouldn't invade Iraq and look at all the grief he got for it. Al Gore would not have invaded either so he was replaced by Mr. Bush. It could have been done better but the ones who could have done it better wouldn't do it at all.
 
2013-08-28 10:53:41 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: I_C_Weener: Tat'dGreaser: I_C_Weener: Everyone loves chocolate.

They don't even like naked women over there

They would if they were covered in melted chocolate.

I think we all could use a break from this heavy handed discussion to look on some of the more important things in life

[834x1500 from http://www.freshfood.net.au/images/Chocolate-Covered-Girl.jpg image 834x1500]


She shouldn't've been standing so close to tubgirl.
 
2013-08-28 10:53:57 AM

The Irresponsible Captain: I'm tired of war. I just don't care anymore.
They can all go blow themselves off the face of the Earth.
Just keep me out of it and don't make it more than a 10 second spot on the news.


Once we get 100% supplied by green energy sources located within our borders, we can do that.
 
2013-08-28 10:56:23 AM

lordjupiter: Why are other people able to succeed despite taxes, but not Republicans?  Either the system is rigged against the middle class and the wealthy elite have advantages the rest of us don't have REGARDLESS of tax breaks, or the rank and file GOP anti-government echo stations are just incapable of doing what everyone at the top has figured out how to do.

Which is it?  Is the system wide open for anyone regardless of taxes and regulations, or are wealthy elites controlling everything and tricking you into thinking what's good for them is good for you?


Third option: nobody is able to succeed despite taxes, only those with special personal exemptions to the taxes are able to succeed. You're just pretending that success is possible without exemptions because you're disingenously trying to pretend crony capitalism is the same as all capitalism, much like the Romans tried to make Jesus drink gall while insisting it was water.

/Detroit was the first to burn
//it will not be the last, due in part to your actions
///keep on deflecting, you'll only die in the fires you set, while the people you hate will survive and rebuild from the ashes
 
2013-08-28 10:56:31 AM

vygramul: They also don't hand them out to lower-level field commanders who could be bribed by the Mossad to maybe lob one in the opposite direction.


they coudl be handed out to higher level or completely trusted commanders who weren't good at hiding them.  nobody is saying it must eb a Mossad plot.

vygramul: Yes, but our controls are not, nor do not have to be, as strict. Our president is not scared of our military. Tyrannies tend to be. That's why their militaries tend not to practice much, lest they be effective enough to take power, have watchers, like the Republican Guard, who also have watchers, like the Special Republican Guard... people who do that don't just hand out their regime-ending weapons to lower-level field commanders to use on their own volition.


I am sorry, but you are mkaing a good case for them farking up.

There are only so many places they could hide them, and in ammo depots for conventioanl weaposn is a great place in many aspects.


vygramul: There's a difference between losing something and giving a lower-level field commander authority.


I think we just aren;t going to agree here, but to be clear I am not sayingt hey were handed out and given to commaders to do with as they wished.  I think they were given out "for safe keeping" and whoever had them farked up (or somebodey below them did).

vygramul: (And Egypt has a lot of social classes involved in their militaries. A colleague did a study of why F-16s underperform so much in their hands


I only worked in the oil field, but my father was involved in FMS with soem arab countries.  He had some hilarious/sad stories abotu piltos who were there because of their family vice skill.
 
2013-08-28 10:58:30 AM

Carth: There was no real evidence to go to war with Iraq and we made some up to justify it. Why can't we ignore real evidence of war crimes in Syria and make up evidence to not go to war?


actually worse! Saddam actually DID use WMD on the Kurds and other sects so there was at least actual evidence he used it before yet it was still a big giant clusterfark.
Now, we're not even 100% sure Assad used it at all in this case and we're already parking AEGIS ships and the USS Eisenhower Strike Group not far from the coast of Syria and threatening strikes!
WTF Obama!
 
2013-08-28 10:59:43 AM

vygramul: We accomplished precisely what we set out to do: get Gaddhafi killed for all the crap he's pulled over the years.


So we're in the business of assassination now?

IdBeCrazyIf: Surely there must be some reason these people want us dead......maybe if we addressed that concern this stupid global war on terror can be put down like a rabid dog


Dude.........they've expressly stated that American involvement in their countries is why they want us dead
 
2013-08-28 11:00:48 AM

SuperNinjaToad: Carth: There was no real evidence to go to war with Iraq and we made some up to justify it. Why can't we ignore real evidence of war crimes in Syria and make up evidence to not go to war?

actually worse! Saddam actually DID use WMD on the Kurds and other sects so there was at least actual evidence he used it before yet it was still a big giant clusterfark.
Now, we're not even 100% sure Assad used it at all in this case and we're already parking AEGIS ships and the USS Eisenhower Strike Group not far from the coast of Syria and threatening strikes!
WTF Obama!


To be fair, the State dept has come out and said in no uncertain terms that it was the Syrian government behind this last CW attack and they tend not to be so direct without unmistakable proof.  Diplomats don't use unequivocal terminology without very very very very good reason.  Smoking-gun levels of proof, even.
 
2013-08-28 11:01:23 AM
Few things warm the heart more than the fact that Americans hold the entity subjugating them as completely dishonest, and believe not a word that exits their mouth. The US government has absolutely ZERO credibility.

How's that peace President doing for you? Guess he doesn't care what Article 2, Section 8 of the Constitution says, either. When did Syria attack the United States?
 
2013-08-28 11:02:32 AM

jpbreon: Few things warm the heart more than the fact that Americans hold the entity subjugating them as completely dishonest, and believe not a word that exits their mouth. The US government has absolutely ZERO credibility.

How's that peace President doing for you? Guess he doesn't care what Article 2, Section 8 of the Constitution says, either. When did Syria attack the United States?


When did he attack Syria?
 
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