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(CBS New York)   6,000 people lose power due to a criminal mastermind's decision to steal a bucket truck and press the "up" button   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 46
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2013-08-27 10:05:43 PM
How unenlightened.  Such a dim-witted fellow.  Not a bright idea.
 
2013-08-27 10:05:48 PM
Hopefully he gets sentenced to watts of time.
 
2013-08-27 10:09:03 PM
I wonder if that was on his bucket list
 
2013-08-27 10:09:10 PM
"There was a series of explosions last night like something out of a 'Frankenstein' movie,"

Michael Bay did a version of Frankenstein?
 
2013-08-27 10:10:16 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I wonder if that was on his bucket list


Can you have a cherry-picker list?
 
2013-08-27 10:11:45 PM
I'm sure his union rep will be glad to stand next to him and force the company to let him keep his job.
 
2013-08-27 10:16:22 PM

LemSkroob: I'm sure his union rep will be glad to stand next to him and force the company to let him keep his job.


The United Brotherhood of Criminal Masterminds Local 462 has a long history of standing up for their thieving members.
 
2013-08-27 10:17:44 PM
The charges he's about to get zapped with will be quite extensive.
 
2013-08-27 10:20:50 PM
Meh.  Let them use candles and cook on a fire in the backyard.  It'll be easy and even fun.  We don't really need electric power to survive; people may feel like this is a disaster but it's really not.
 
2013-08-27 10:22:23 PM
Yea, thats a Stinger crane(straight boom) and not a cherry picker.

/But thanks for playing anyway you idiot media.
 
Ni
2013-08-27 10:22:34 PM
Gyrfalcon: Can you have a cherry-picker list?

I sure do.
 
2013-08-27 10:26:16 PM

Ni: Gyrfalcon: Can you have a cherry-picker list?

I sure do.


It's not the same as a cherry-POPPER list, okay?
 
2013-08-27 10:31:17 PM
As someone who had to paint two stories up this spring with a trick knee and sh*tty ladder..... Never again.  I'll need a manlift with hookers and blackjack or else all bets are off.
 
2013-08-27 10:34:13 PM
He hit up on the truck, truck, truck.
Shorts like what what what
Wires got cut.
 
2013-08-27 10:39:29 PM
www.ssrfanatic.com
 
2013-08-27 10:40:08 PM

LemSkroob: I'm sure his union rep will be glad to stand next to him and force the company to let him keep his job.


Those 23 years seniority should weigh heavily in his favor.

Also, you'd think an inside job could have been pulled off in a little more of a low key manner than this dude managed, FFS.

/ and all for a big ass welder
// there's more to life than a big ass welder
 
2013-08-27 10:44:58 PM

TomD9938: LemSkroob: I'm sure his union rep will be glad to stand next to him and force the company to let him keep his job.

Those 23 years seniority should weigh heavily in his favor.

Also, you'd think an inside job could have been pulled off in a little more of a low key manner than this dude managed, FFS.

/ and all for a big ass welder
// there's more to life than a big ass welder


My hobby-putting the hyphen in the wrong place in the event of sentences like that.
 
2013-08-27 10:45:25 PM

fusillade762: "There was a series of explosions last night like something out of a 'Frankenstein' movie,"

Michael Bay did a version of Frankenstein?


Between that and "I got a two year old so I ran outside" there's a whole lotta stupid in that article.
 
2013-08-27 10:46:39 PM
Police said Grasman has a long criminal history involving theft, drugs and alcohol, Xirinachs reported.

Just another wonderful government worker.
 
2013-08-27 10:50:19 PM
I'm shocked, shocked that a bucket truck got stolen!
 
2013-08-27 10:50:46 PM

fusillade762: "There was a series of explosions last night like something out of a 'Frankenstein' movie,"

Michael Bay did a version of Frankenstein?


I hope you didn't just start something.
 
2013-08-27 11:01:09 PM
TomD9938:

Also, you'd think an inside job could have been pulled off in a little more of a low key manner than this dude managed, FFS.

Its LIPA. you cant expect them to do anything correctly, including stealing.
 
2013-08-27 11:02:44 PM
From  http://www.ny1.com/content/news/transit/187802/police--mta-worker-kno c ked-out-power-to-thousands-with-stolen-truck

The MTA says its investigation is ongoing and disciplinary action will be taken once it's complete.

Is there anything a Government employee can do that results in punishment beyond a paid suspension.  A civilian would be facing some serious jail time for this.

Let me guess -- qualified immunity means he isn't even liable for damages for the cars he destroyed?
 
2013-08-27 11:08:12 PM

Ishidan: TomD9938: LemSkroob: I'm sure his union rep will be glad to stand next to him and force the company to let him keep his job.

Those 23 years seniority should weigh heavily in his favor.

Also, you'd think an inside job could have been pulled off in a little more of a low key manner than this dude managed, FFS.

/ and all for a big ass welder
// there's more to life than a big ass welder

My hobby-putting the hyphen in the wrong place in the event of sentences like that.


It's good to have hobbies.
 
2013-08-27 11:15:04 PM
Terr-rist!
 
2013-08-27 11:21:58 PM
Grasman, a "light maintainer" at the facility and a 23-year employee of the agency, [...]

Police said Grasman has a long criminal history involving theft, drugs and alcohol, Xirinachs reported.


Mm hmm.
 
2013-08-27 11:33:19 PM

fnordfocus: From  http://www.ny1.com/content/news/transit/187802/police--mta-worker-kno c ked-out-power-to-thousands-with-stolen-truck

The MTA says its investigation is ongoing and disciplinary action will be taken once it's complete.

Is there anything a Government employee can do that results in punishment beyond a paid suspension.  A civilian would be facing some serious jail time for this.

Let me guess -- qualified immunity means he isn't even liable for damages for the cars he destroyed?


It say's he's facing criminal charges as well.  The MTA has to go through the proper steps so that he can't take them to court over firing him, it's the price you pay for the job security unions provide - everyone is entitled to due process, yes it makes it silly when someone does something this ridiculous, but it protects honest working folks who have a supervisor that doesn't like them or make an honest mistake so that they don't lose their careers over it.

There seems to be plenty of evidence, the MTA will fire him, he'll either face trial and likely be found guilty or take a plea deal that will most likely involve jail time and restitution considering his record.

The system works, you just have to allow time for everyone to go through the process.
 
2013-08-27 11:51:28 PM
Wow, what a crazy happening
Would love hear his whole story of what was going on in his mind
 
2013-08-27 11:54:47 PM

TuteTibiImperes: There seems to be plenty of evidence, the MTA will fire him, he'll either face trial and likely be found guilty or take a plea deal that will most likely involve jail time and restitution considering his record.

The system works, you just have to allow time for everyone to go through the process.


Very unlikely.  In the real world, we need to allow time for the public to forget and Grasman to get his job back, or an equivalent job with a neighboring agency.

The Garrity decision effectively protects public employees from criminal prosecution if they're subject to administrative discipline for the same offense.
 
2013-08-27 11:58:58 PM
He's probably going to take a Long Guy up his Island.

/get ass f*cked
//got nothing
 
2013-08-28 12:06:52 AM

fnordfocus: TuteTibiImperes: There seems to be plenty of evidence, the MTA will fire him, he'll either face trial and likely be found guilty or take a plea deal that will most likely involve jail time and restitution considering his record.

The system works, you just have to allow time for everyone to go through the process.

Very unlikely.  In the real world, we need to allow time for the public to forget and Grasman to get his job back, or an equivalent job with a neighboring agency.

The Garrity decision effectively protects public employees from criminal prosecution if they're subject to administrative discipline for the same offense.


Garrity just means that a company can't take disciplinary action against you for failing to answer questions that would incriminate you.  It basically extends the 5th to include the right to remain silent in interviews regarding administrative sanctions.  It doesn't mean that the police can't also interview you, or that you're free from criminal prosecution.  It also doesn't mean that when the evidence shows that you did something that you can't still be disciplined both professionally and criminally.
 
2013-08-28 12:25:44 AM
Jimmy Larson wanted for questioning.
 
2013-08-28 12:25:47 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Garrity just means that a company can't take disciplinary action against you for failing to answer questions that would incriminate you.  It basically extends the 5th to include the right to remain silent in interviews regarding administrative sanctions.  It doesn't mean that the police can't also interview you, or that you're free from criminal prosecution.  It also doesn't mean that when the evidence shows that you did something that you can't still be disciplined both professionally and criminally.


By the way, Garrity only applies to public employees not corporate employees.

In this case here's how it plays out:

Grasman gets called into an administrative interview.  A MTA rep asks if he stole the truck.  Grasman refuses to answer.  They threaten to fire him, so he admits guilt.  Grasman now has immunity for any evidence related to the theft, so there's nothing left for a criminal prosecution.

What am I missing?
 
2013-08-28 12:45:05 AM

fnordfocus: TuteTibiImperes: Garrity just means that a company can't take disciplinary action against you for failing to answer questions that would incriminate you.  It basically extends the 5th to include the right to remain silent in interviews regarding administrative sanctions.  It doesn't mean that the police can't also interview you, or that you're free from criminal prosecution.  It also doesn't mean that when the evidence shows that you did something that you can't still be disciplined both professionally and criminally.

By the way, Garrity only applies to public employees not corporate employees.

In this case here's how it plays out:

Grasman gets called into an administrative interview.  A MTA rep asks if he stole the truck.  Grasman refuses to answer.  They threaten to fire him, so he admits guilt.  Grasman now has immunity for any evidence related to the theft, so there's nothing left for a criminal prosecution.

What am I missing?


It applies to employment related concerns, not criminal prosecution.  An employer cannot grand immunity from criminal prosecution.  Any evidence of criminal conduct is still valid regardless of Garrity.  The only thing Garrity might invalidate is a confession, and only then if there is a valid reason for constitutional immunity, and immunity is offered and the administrative interview takes place before any criminal interrogation.

Garrity isn't a 'get out of jail free' card, it just means that a (government) employer can't force you to answer questions that would lead to criminal charges.  The police are under no such restrictions in their own interviews/interrogations, and it doesn't effect evidence gathering, witness statements, etc, at all.
 
2013-08-28 01:17:07 AM
No, 6,000 people lose power because they refuse to pay the one-time cost of putting their electric cables underground, where storms and winds and IDIOTS IN BUCKET TRUCKS are much less likely to damage them.
 
2013-08-28 03:32:56 AM

rubi_con_man: No, 6,000 people lose power because they refuse to pay the one-time cost of putting their electric cables underground, where storms and winds and IDIOTS IN BUCKET TRUCKS are much less likely to damage them.


There's a reason for that.

www.washingtonpost.com

Why most cities don't bury power lines

Yes, it's probably short-sighted, but then again most humans are.
 
2013-08-28 03:40:09 AM

rubi_con_man: No, 6,000 people lose power because they refuse to pay the one-time cost of putting their electric cables underground, where storms and winds and IDIOTS IN BUCKET TRUCKS are much less likely to damage them.


Then it would be an idiot with a Ditch-Witch.

The key word here is "idiot." Not the technology used to damage the power lines.
 
2013-08-28 05:05:25 AM
Didn't the cleveland show do an episode about this?
 
2013-08-28 05:33:35 AM
Stay classy, Elmont.
 
2013-08-28 06:50:26 AM

fusillade762: rubi_con_man: No, 6,000 people lose power because they refuse to pay the one-time cost of putting their electric cables underground, where storms and winds and IDIOTS IN BUCKET TRUCKS are much less likely to damage them.

There's a reason for that.

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Why most cities don't bury power lines

Yes, it's probably short-sighted, but then again most humans are.


I see all of the new developments around here have underground stuff, but yeah the older stuff is staying above ground and isn't going anywhere.

Wasn't part of the whole rebuild the power grid that Republicans were so much against?
 
2013-08-28 08:36:03 AM

Ishidan: My hobby-putting the hyphen in the wrong place in the event of sentences like that.


My hobbie is reading  webcomics of romance, sarcasm, math, and language.
But to each his own.

:P
 
2013-08-28 10:00:24 AM
I wonder how the truck managed to not tip over whilst moving with the boom extended?

I saw a tree bucket truck on it's side once due to the operator going up in the bucket without setting the outriggers first.
 
2013-08-28 12:15:29 PM

TreeHugger: Meh.  Let them use candles and cook on a fire in the backyard.  It'll be easy and even fun.  We don't really need electric power to survive; people may feel like this is a disaster but it's really not.


I know an 87 year old woman who doesn't have power because of this idiot.  It's rather dangerous to start a fire or candles around her oxygen tank.  And, btw, it's been rather hot in the area lately.  If this woman dies of heat because of this idiot, can he be cited for murder?
 
2013-08-28 12:41:40 PM

TreeHugger: Meh.  Let them use candles and cook on a fire in the backyard.  It'll be easy and even fun.  We don't really need electric power to survive; people may feel like this is a disaster but it's really not.


electricity = water pressure

/derp
 
2013-08-28 02:27:58 PM

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Thanks for posting BukkitWalrus so that I didn't have to.
 
2013-08-28 08:17:14 PM
If only there was a way to transmit power without wires.

intellihub.com
 
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