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(Miami Herald)   The Raiders enter "Year 2 of rebuilding" according to a sportswriter who hasn't watched many Raiders games over the last 10 years   (miamiherald.com) divider line 59
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2013-08-27 05:46:23 PM  
We really mean it this year!

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-08-27 06:13:16 PM  
Rebuilding decades take time, man.
 
2013-08-27 06:35:37 PM  
They had to start from scratch after Al died. The team wasn't built around long term planning prior to that
 
2013-08-27 06:37:45 PM  
This year is back to the halcyon 'Black Out' era... where watching a game required being blackout drunk by halftime.

/Luckily in WI this is easily doable on $20.
 
2013-08-27 06:44:14 PM  
So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars
 
2013-08-27 06:47:30 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars


The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.
 
2013-08-27 06:51:50 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: HaywoodJablonski: So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars

The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.


Very true.
 
2013-08-27 06:53:13 PM  
Why did I take McFadden for my flex spot? Why?
 
2013-08-27 06:56:09 PM  
I'd like to start taking part in these discussions, but....the truth is in the pudding (that's going to make up our OL)

/truly hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-08-27 06:56:12 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.


they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.
 
2013-08-27 06:57:53 PM  
ManLaw permits the use of the term "rebuilding year" to refer to your team's losing season, regardless of whether or not any rebuilding actually took place.
 
2013-08-27 06:58:11 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars


Jags won't be as bad as normal this year.
 
2013-08-27 07:01:21 PM  

Lost Thought 00: HaywoodJablonski: So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars

Jags won't be as bad as normal this year.


Did they replace Gabbert? Did MJD get younger?
 
2013-08-27 07:03:44 PM  
As much as I like to bag on the Raiduhs, I don't any more.

Now that Zombie Al is gone, and they have Reggie McKenzie at the helm, I say give them a couple more seasons to get out from under the front office farkery that they had from the days of Tom Cable spiking Al's pudding cups and getting Darius Hewoody Bay in the first round.

Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.
 
2013-08-27 07:04:15 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Lost Thought 00: HaywoodJablonski: So my loser pool should consist of nothing but Raiders, Bills and the occasional Jaguars

Jags won't be as bad as normal this year.

Did they replace Gabbert? Did MJD get younger?


They did buy themselves a little defense.
 
2013-08-27 07:07:45 PM  
Raiders 2: The Gangster Boogaloo
 
2013-08-27 07:08:28 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.

they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.


I wouldn't be too quick to assume the Jets will be pushovers.

I expect that the Jets will have a better running game and a good defense this year.
Sanchez has streaks of adequate play between his bone headed mistakes.

If they do have the sort of running game and defense that allows them to limit Sanchez's opportunities for mistakes they could be competitive the way they were a few years ago.
 
2013-08-27 07:11:43 PM  

GoldSpider: ManLaw permits the use of the term "rebuilding year" to refer to your team's losing season, regardless of whether or not any rebuilding actually took place.


We need a formula that somehow combines the ages of core players, available cap going forward and future draft picks traded away/for.

If you are getting younger and freeing up future cap to keep the best of those young players then you get to say you're "rebuilding"
 
2013-08-27 07:11:57 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.

they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.


For the purposes of suicide pools, they will be a pillar for basing decisions on as they go 5-11.
 
2013-08-27 07:16:00 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: If they do have the sort of running game and defense that allows them to limit Sanchez's opportunities for mistakes they could be competitive the way they were a few years ago.


yeah, but his confidence is shot.  any word on his health, by the way?  the silence is deafening.  you'd think if it was nothing, rex and/or the GM would be hsouting it from the rooftops.  or maybe the owner probably put out a Code Red on public statments.

i was thinking, too, with the Bills, Tuel is a righty, as is Manuel.  Do their LT/LG play the swing?  when Leinart is is, his backside is exposd to where you probably want swings on the right.  That's what Arizona did when we had Leinart; we had a swing guard i believe, that jumped when we flipped it to Waner/Leinart.  It isn't a huge adjustment, but it is damn sure one you want to be prepared for.

Spesh sinc ethe kid is so young and, come on now, from battling the dregs of the Pac 10 to your first game vs. Belichick / Brady?  yeesh.
 
2013-08-27 07:16:03 PM  
Oh the raiders, one of two teams in the AFC bills fans feel sorry for.
 
2013-08-27 07:30:59 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: For the purposes of suicide pools, they will be a pillar for basing decisions on as they go 5-11.


I posted i think profootballlocks' ove/runders a few days ago and i forget the jets, but 5 sounds about right.  and i think Peter King said the Jadeveon Clowney sweepstakes is Raiders, Jets, and I think Jags.

but you never know.  half the fun of the game.  teams start 4-0, finish 7-9, teams start 0-3, make the wild card, someone goes worst to first, t he can't miss team misses the playoffs, blah blah blah.
 
2013-08-27 07:32:32 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: For the purposes of suicide pools, they will be a pillar for basing decisions on as they go 5-11.

I posted i think profootballlocks' ove/runders a few days ago and i forget the jets, but 5 sounds about right.  and i think Peter King said the Jadeveon Clowney sweepstakes is Raiders, Jets, and I think Jags.

but you never know.  half the fun of the game.  teams start 4-0, finish 7-9, teams start 0-3, make the wild card, someone goes worst to first, t he can't miss team misses the playoffs, blah blah blah.


I took them for the under at 6 wins.  I don't care that it was a -105; that had cashing opportunity written all over it.
 
2013-08-27 07:33:19 PM  
Al Davis sucks donkey dicks.

/so do Indians

whoops! too late. DEAD!
 
2013-08-27 07:36:23 PM  

rickythepenguin: CodeMonkey4Life: If they do have the sort of running game and defense that allows them to limit Sanchez's opportunities for mistakes they could be competitive the way they were a few years ago.

yeah, but his confidence is shot.  any word on his health, by the way?  the silence is deafening.  you'd think if it was nothing, rex and/or the GM would be hsouting it from the rooftops.  or maybe the owner probably put out a Code Red on public statments.

i was thinking, too, with the Bills, Tuel is a righty, as is Manuel.  Do their LT/LG play the swing?  when Leinart is is, his backside is exposd to where you probably want swings on the right.  That's what Arizona did when we had Leinart; we had a swing guard i believe, that jumped when we flipped it to Waner/Leinart.  It isn't a huge adjustment, but it is damn sure one you want to be prepared for.

Spesh sinc ethe kid is so young and, come on now, from battling the dregs of the Pac 10 to your first game vs. Belichick / Brady?  yeesh.


I've been assuming Sanchez would be fine soon since he was well enough to test his arm on the sideline after the hit but that assumption could easily be wrong.

The confidence thing is a good point though, even if "ground and pound" makes its oft promised return he still might be throwing games away from pressing or second guessing.
 I've been assuming he would be at least somewhat better than he was as a rookie but that is a scenario where maybe he isn't.
 
2013-08-27 07:38:54 PM  
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2013-08-27 07:40:51 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: I took them for the under at 6 wins. I don't care that it was a -105; that had cashing opportunity written all over it.


i'm getting old so i alredy forget, but if i'm not mistaken, as of about a week ago, meaning when rosters still had 75 or whatever, the Ravens were i think 8.5 dogs @ Donks.  i haven't bet in probably 4-5 years, but.....8.5.  8.5, huh?  it isn't like the Ravens lost a ton, either.  Lewis was really showing his age down the stretch, still a very effective player, but i don't think him, Reed, and Boldin really hurt the ravens thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat much.  and in week 1?  this should be if anything, to generate more action, something like 4, 4.5.

8.5 seems like just eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy money.
 
2013-08-27 07:44:40 PM  

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Aww cute, the stump jumping yokel Chiefs fans knows how to post a picture.  When was the last time you guys won a playoff game?

/Here's a hint, it was still Clinton's first term
//That assumes Chiefs fans can count to two I guess...
 
2013-08-27 07:44:56 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: I've been assuming Sanchez would be fine soon since he was well enough to test his arm on the sideline after the hit but that assumption could easily be wrong.


i have no idea, so far i've watche dthe sum total of maybe one series of football and that was Arizona/Botls.  I have no idea how bad the hit was on Sanchez but i've been inundated with all the, "what the Eff was rex thinking?" chatter on STR.

dunno.  i just think, as i siad, if he was 100% ready to go, the organization would be saying so if for no other reason, to win the PR battle. "no harm, no foul".  the lack of any nes makes me think, you know, he's got a 4 week injury.

really interested to see how the the Bills kid does.  i wonder if we get that game.  ehhh.
 
2013-08-27 07:46:39 PM  

rickythepenguin: CodeMonkey4Life: I've been assuming Sanchez would be fine soon since he was well enough to test his arm on the sideline after the hit but that assumption could easily be wrong.

i have no idea, so far i've watche dthe sum total of maybe one series of football and that was Arizona/Botls.  I have no idea how bad the hit was on Sanchez but i've been inundated with all the, "what the Eff was rex thinking?" chatter on STR.

dunno.  i just think, as i siad, if he was 100% ready to go, the organization would be saying so if for no other reason, to win the PR battle. "no harm, no foul".  the lack of any nes makes me think, you know, he's got a 4 week injury.

really interested to see how the the Bills kid does.  i wonder if we get that game.  ehhh.


Olbermann pointed out last night it's beyond stupid the same media crying for Sanchez to be benched and Geno Smith to be put in the game is now suddenly saying Rex should be fired because Sanchez a qb no one likes, got freaking hurt.
 
2013-08-27 07:49:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: I took them for the under at 6 wins. I don't care that it was a -105; that had cashing opportunity written all over it.

i'm getting old so i alredy forget, but if i'm not mistaken, as of about a week ago, meaning when rosters still had 75 or whatever, the Ravens were i think 8.5 dogs @ Donks.  i haven't bet in probably 4-5 years, but.....8.5.  8.5, huh?  it isn't like the Ravens lost a ton, either.  Lewis was really showing his age down the stretch, still a very effective player, but i don't think him, Reed, and Boldin really hurt the ravens thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat much.  and in week 1?  this should be if anything, to generate more action, something like 4, 4.5.

8.5 seems like just eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy money.


I'm looking at a site right now that claims 9.5 http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl-weekly-odds

It is hard to imagine a defending Superbowl champ opening as 9.5 dogs, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before
 
2013-08-27 07:50:19 PM  

rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.

they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.


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2013-08-27 07:57:30 PM  

SenorBenedict: Olbermann pointed out last night it's beyond stupid the same media crying for Sanchez to be benched and Geno Smith to be put in the game is now suddenly saying Rex should be fired because Sanchez a qb no one likes, got freaking hurt.


Jay Mohr's theory on his show yesterday, was that Geno sucking so badly forced Rex' hand.  Mohr says he believes that Rex was secretly hoping Sanchez would throw a pick so that he could hide behind that:  "sanchez threw a pick against the the 2s, i have no option at this point, Geno, for all his faults, is the guy, I can't trust Sanchez anymore, sorry."  instead, Sanchez getting creamed makes Rex look stupid.  dunno.


CodeMonkey4Life: It is hard to imagine a defending Superbowl champ opening as 9.5 dogs, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before


yeah, it's pretty remarkable.  8.5?  Wow.  i could see if the Donks were, you know, 6-0 and the Ravens were 2-5 or something, but, a week 1 matchup when nobody knows anything?  and then, 8.5?  I agree the Donks should be favorites and not small favorites, but.....eight point five is just......man.  that is forever points inthis league.  and not even about the super bowl, to be frank.  playoff team vs playoff team, and one gets 8.5?

if the Donks pull it off, i'd be shocked.

the lines fascinate me.
 
2013-08-27 08:00:23 PM  
This is McFadden's year. Draft him early, and grab him before I do.
 
2013-08-27 08:08:24 PM  
8.5? 9.5?

With all the issues the Donks have on D right now, plus Wacco losing Boldin?

I wish I had some piss-away money right now, I'd just dive on those money lines.
 
2013-08-27 08:11:10 PM  
Even with the years of sucking.. the Raiders still have a winning record of .500 and better with 23 out of 32 teams and still has been in the playoffs every decade its been in existence and still has 7 years left in this one to get back!

The uniforms are amazing and timeless and the fans loyal.  I wear my Raider shirts around and people stop me to talk about the Raiders.

Love them or hate them..  its the Raiders!
 
2013-08-27 08:31:03 PM  
xaks: Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.

You left out at least three clichés: a young, cocky quarterback that has yet to win over the veteran linemen blocking for him, a plucky coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, and the oft injured, grizzled linebacker playing for his final shot at glory.

I don't know if the Raiders have any of those things, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd included them with every other cliché you crammed in there, and I say that with respect.
 
2013-08-27 08:32:02 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.

they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.

I wouldn't be too quick to assume the Jets will be pushovers.

I expect that the Jets will have a better running game and a good defense this year.
Sanchez has streaks of adequate play between his bone headed mistakes.

If they do have the sort of running game and defense that allows them to limit Sanchez's opportunities for mistakes they could be competitive the way they were a few years ago.


You two guys oughta be motivational speakers
 
2013-08-27 08:36:03 PM  

Trey Le Parc: xaks: Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.

You left out at least three clichés: a young, cocky quarterback that has yet to win over the veteran linemen blocking for him, a plucky coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, and the oft injured, grizzled linebacker playing for his final shot at glory.

I don't know if the Raiders have any of those things, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd included them with every other cliché you crammed in there, and I say that with respect.


Well, Matt Damon....Flynn, hasn't won much being A-Rod's understudy, and has a chip on his shoulder after being shown up in Seattle last year...although, you can't plan for what Russ Wilson did.

Not sure if their new coach qualifies for plucky though.

In all honesty though, I said what I said from respect of Reggie alone. The man was a sponge during his time in Green Bay, and learned from some of the best in Harlan and Wolf. Even Thompson is pretty damn even, even if I want to cockpunch him with frequency.

That's a hell of a pedigree.
 
2013-08-27 08:38:02 PM  

xaks: As much as I like to bag on the Raiduhs, I don't any more.

Now that Zombie Al is gone, and they have Reggie McKenzie at the helm, I say give them a couple more seasons to get out from under the front office farkery that they had from the days of Tom Cable spiking Al's pudding cups and getting Darius Hewoody Bay in the first round.

Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.


Pretty much this.

This is McFadden's year. Draft him early, and grab him before I do.

Good luck with that.  I'm sure he'll be great... for about 5 or 6 games till he hurts his toe or something.
 
2013-08-27 08:44:50 PM  

basemetal: We really mean it this year!

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan


THIS.

I dig Pryor though, hope he gets the nod for starter over Flynn.
 
2013-08-27 08:45:38 PM  

xaks: Trey Le Parc: xaks: Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.

You left out at least three clichés: a young, cocky quarterback that has yet to win over the veteran linemen blocking for him, a plucky coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, and the oft injured, grizzled linebacker playing for his final shot at glory.

I don't know if the Raiders have any of those things, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd included them with every other cliché you crammed in there, and I say that with respect.

Well, Matt Damon....Flynn, hasn't won much being A-Rod's understudy, and has a chip on his shoulder after being shown up in Seattle last year...although, you can't plan for what Russ Wilson did.

Not sure if their new coach qualifies for plucky though.

In all honesty though, I said what I said from respect of Reggie alone. The man was a sponge during his time in Green Bay, and learned from some of the best in Harlan and Wolf. Even Thompson is pretty damn even, even if I want to cockpunch him with frequency.

That's a hell of a pedigree.


Damn, you're good.  You know your Raiders, that's for sure.  Well, here's to a good year for the entire AFC West...the last few years watching the Chargers has been downright painful.
 
2013-08-27 08:47:20 PM  

Loneman1: basemetal: We really mean it this year!

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan

THIS.

I dig Pryor though, hope he gets the nod for starter over Flynn.


I almost wish the same, but I do want to see Flynn get an honest chance at the thing. I liked how he kept an even keel in GB, so if he shiats the bed, so be it....but give him the chance to start and get better.

(That said, though, I really like that Pryor kid's play)
 
2013-08-27 08:48:26 PM  

Trey Le Parc: xaks: Trey Le Parc: xaks: Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.

You left out at least three clichés: a young, cocky quarterback that has yet to win over the veteran linemen blocking for him, a plucky coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, and the oft injured, grizzled linebacker playing for his final shot at glory.

I don't know if the Raiders have any of those things, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd included them with every other cliché you crammed in there, and I say that with respect.

Well, Matt Damon....Flynn, hasn't won much being A-Rod's understudy, and has a chip on his shoulder after being shown up in Seattle last year...although, you can't plan for what Russ Wilson did.

Not sure if their new coach qualifies for plucky though.

In all honesty though, I said what I said from respect of Reggie alone. The man was a sponge during his time in Green Bay, and learned from some of the best in Harlan and Wolf. Even Thompson is pretty damn even, even if I want to cockpunch him with frequency.

That's a hell of a pedigree.

Damn, you're good.  You know your Raiders, that's for sure.  Well, here's to a good year for the entire AFC West...the last few years watching the Chargers has been downright painful.


I thank you for the compliment. I follow FOOTBALL, not just one or even a couple teams :)
 
2013-08-27 08:57:33 PM  
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//never forget
 
2013-08-27 09:07:36 PM  

natural316: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: The Jets also deserve to be in heavy rotation for that list.

they're easy meat now, but they were in the AFC Champ just what, 2010, 2011?  settle down.  we're not talking Brownsian, Bengalesque, Billsian levels of futility.  and if you want to go historical, they have a Lombardi, when there's probably 12-15 teams that have never hoisted hte Lombardi.

I wouldn't be too quick to assume the Jets will be pushovers.

I expect that the Jets will have a better running game and a good defense this year.
Sanchez has streaks of adequate play between his bone headed mistakes.

If they do have the sort of running game and defense that allows them to limit Sanchez's opportunities for mistakes they could be competitive the way they were a few years ago.

You two guys oughta be motivational speakers


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2013-08-27 09:09:31 PM  

xaks: Trey Le Parc: xaks: Trey Le Parc: xaks: Two more 'out from under contract hell' years with decent drafts and you'll find yourselves with a team stocked with young talent and an eye for building from within rather swinging for the fence in free agency on overpriced one-hit-wonders and overpriced underperforming vets.

You left out at least three clichés: a young, cocky quarterback that has yet to win over the veteran linemen blocking for him, a plucky coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, and the oft injured, grizzled linebacker playing for his final shot at glory.

I don't know if the Raiders have any of those things, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd included them with every other cliché you crammed in there, and I say that with respect.

Well, Matt Damon....Flynn, hasn't won much being A-Rod's understudy, and has a chip on his shoulder after being shown up in Seattle last year...although, you can't plan for what Russ Wilson did.

Not sure if their new coach qualifies for plucky though.

In all honesty though, I said what I said from respect of Reggie alone. The man was a sponge during his time in Green Bay, and learned from some of the best in Harlan and Wolf. Even Thompson is pretty damn even, even if I want to cockpunch him with frequency.

That's a hell of a pedigree.

Damn, you're good.  You know your Raiders, that's for sure.  Well, here's to a good year for the entire AFC West...the last few years watching the Chargers has been downright painful.

I thank you for the compliment. I follow FOOTBALL, not just one or even a couple teams :)


I follow teams in places I've lived: Chiefs, Broncos, Bears, Cowboys and Chargers.  I used to follow it more closely, but I still enjoy it when I can.  SD will probably suck less this season than the last two, which isn't saying much.  Still, at least Norv is gone.  Not a bad guy, just a terrible head coach.
 
2013-08-27 09:12:50 PM  

CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: I took them for the under at 6 wins. I don't care that it was a -105; that had cashing opportunity written all over it.

i'm getting old so i alredy forget, but if i'm not mistaken, as of about a week ago, meaning when rosters still had 75 or whatever, the Ravens were i think 8.5 dogs @ Donks.  i haven't bet in probably 4-5 years, but.....8.5.  8.5, huh?  it isn't like the Ravens lost a ton, either.  Lewis was really showing his age down the stretch, still a very effective player, but i don't think him, Reed, and Boldin really hurt the ravens thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat much.  and in week 1?  this should be if anything, to generate more action, something like 4, 4.5.

8.5 seems like just eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy money.

I'm looking at a site right now that claims 9.5 http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl-weekly-odds

It is hard to imagine a defending Superbowl champ opening as 9.5 dogs, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before




While it is high, I'm not sure it's unrealistic. Flacco has approximately two places to throw it, and one is his running back. Losing Pitta and Boldin hurt quite a bit. I'm also not sure where the Oline and secondary stand at this point. It will be a wild game, of that I am sure. I just hope Jacoby burns someone again for a TD, as a nice reminder.
 
2013-08-27 10:57:26 PM  

INeedAName: CodeMonkey4Life: rickythepenguin: Ken VeryBigLiar: I took them for the under at 6 wins. I don't care that it was a -105; that had cashing opportunity written all over it.

i'm getting old so i alredy forget, but if i'm not mistaken, as of about a week ago, meaning when rosters still had 75 or whatever, the Ravens were i think 8.5 dogs @ Donks.  i haven't bet in probably 4-5 years, but.....8.5.  8.5, huh?  it isn't like the Ravens lost a ton, either.  Lewis was really showing his age down the stretch, still a very effective player, but i don't think him, Reed, and Boldin really hurt the ravens thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat much.  and in week 1?  this should be if anything, to generate more action, something like 4, 4.5.

8.5 seems like just eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy money.

I'm looking at a site right now that claims 9.5 http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl-weekly-odds

It is hard to imagine a defending Superbowl champ opening as 9.5 dogs, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before

While it is high, I'm not sure it's unrealistic. Flacco has approximately two places to throw it, and one is his running back. Losing Pitta and Boldin hurt quite a bit. I'm also not sure where the Oline and secondary stand at this point. It will be a wild game, of that I am sure. I just hope Jacoby burns someone again for a TD, as a nice reminder.


I was thinking the same thing, If you add up what the Brocos gained and what the Ravens lost, I am not sure that I would take the points.
 
2013-08-27 11:09:59 PM  
Rebuilding?  They have a 7 - 1 record and look really good for the Grey Cup this year.

Oh, you mean Raiders. Nevermind.  GO BIG GREEN!

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